2019 Offseason Discussion

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑5 years ago Patriot League.

Good academics....plus they are in that league for football.

Makes a ton of sense....don't know why they haven't done it yet.

They will NEVER compete for an A10 title with that barn they play in.

If JN does bring in some talent, that talent will bolt before they could do anything.

Can the Fordham Women's Basketball Team that won the A10 Tournament and is playing in the NCAA request to stay in the A10 and the URI Women's Basketball team that is a perennial door mat go to the NEC?

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

Pretty sure that's a no.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 5 years ago

The big question is, will we be considered a NCAAT team next year by the media. Thoughts? Mine are we won't which will lead to a bad beginning NET.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 5 years ago

Those two things are unrelated.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 5 years ago

What’s a beginning NET?

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 5 years ago

ATPTourFan wrote: ↑5 years ago What’s a beginning NET?

Who is number one NET? I mean someone has to be. So if Bryant wins their first game before anyone else in the country, they are NET 1?

section(105) · Unread post by **section(105)** » 5 years ago

theblueram wrote: ↑5 years ago The big question is, will we be considered a NCAAT team next year by the media. Thoughts? Mine are we won't which will lead to a bad beginning NET.

.......for me, no.......not even on the bubble.....

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

I think we will be picked to be 5th or 6th in conference...same as this season...with others expected to be better also there won't be much change.

Meaning not predicted to be an NCAA tourney team either.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 5 years ago

theblueram wrote: ↑5 years ago
ATPTourFan wrote: ↑5 years ago What’s a beginning NET?
Who is number one NET? I mean someone has to be. So if Bryant wins their first game before anyone else in the country, they are NET 1?

Efficiency factors into it, it isn’t just W-L, so technically it isn’t like half the teams would be tied for first and the other half would be tied for last if everyone played their first game on the first night. But the metric isn’t even released until later in the season, I believe, when there is enough “connectivity” for the rating to be worth anything (and even then, it’s value is marginal until much later in the season).

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 5 years ago

TruePoint wrote: ↑5 years ago
theblueram wrote: ↑5 years ago
ATPTourFan wrote: ↑5 years ago What’s a beginning NET?
Who is number one NET? I mean someone has to be. So if Bryant wins their first game before anyone else in the country, they are NET 1?
Efficiency factors into it, it isn’t just W-L, so technically it isn’t like half the teams would be tied for first and the other half would be tied for last if everyone played their first game on the first night. But the metric isn’t even released until later in the season, I believe, when there is enough “connectivity” for the rating to be worth anything (and even then, it’s value is marginal until much later in the season).

Efficiency? Like if Bryant wins their first two game against Grand Canyon and LIU-Brooklyn by 20? They would be good?

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 5 years ago

I mean...no? Like I just said, there isn’t even a NET rating until later, I believe. But for the sake of argument, let’s say the answer to that question is yes. Does that matter? Do you care?

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 5 years ago

I also think that we won’t be in the NCAA conversation in the preseason.

PCFriars · Unread post by **PCFriars** » 5 years ago

ramster wrote: ↑5 years ago
PCFriars wrote: ↑5 years ago
Da_Process_Survivor wrote: ↑5 years ago

To where exactly?

UConn likely blocks an attempt to get in the AAC. Even then it's a minor step up if at all.

The Big East makes complete sense, but lord knows as long as there's a Gavitt somewhere still breathing it'll never happen
I'm not sure what the answer is but my point is more that you shouldn't be content in this conference. I think the A-10 is dying, similar to what happened with Conference USA 10-12 years ago. Your upside is going to be capped because of what you're competing against. I don't mean that as a put down at all, just stating my opinion. I think the administration should be striving for better if they are committed to consistently competing at a high level. Gonzaga is the exception, not the rule.

PCFriars,
You are right that the A10 has declined in Basketball recently. We lost some excellent Coaches over the past few years which is usual for the A10. Turnover of Head Coaches at Dayton, VCU, URI to very good offers in last couple of years. All 3 Schools will undoubtedly recover with Dayton and VCU better than expected this season.
Duquesne hired a solid HC in Keith Dambrot. New Head Coaches at Saint Louis and VCU have their teams in the NCAA this year.
You should be worried about your own Big East Conference as well as worrying about ours. I can't remember a year since it's existence that the Big East only had 1 team in the Top 25 and that is Villanova at only #23
The AAC outperformed the Big East with their 4 Teams average NCAA Seed = 7.5, Big East = 8.0. AAC Average NET was 28.7 much better than Big East Average NET of 46.0 for their 4 NCAA Selections

AAC NCAA Teams and Seeds
3-Seed Houston Ranked #11, NET 4

7-Seed Cincinnati Ranked #22, NET 25

9-Seed UCF, NET 30

11-Seed Temple, NET 56
Seeds Total = 3,7,9,11=30 Average Seed = 7.5
NET Total = 4,25,30,56 = 115 = 28.7 average NET
Memphis has a better NET= 46 was better than Seton Hall and Saint John's and did not get in. But watch out for Penny Hardaway's Memphis Team next season having recruited the top player in the Nation in 7 footer James Wiseman.
Dan Hurley recruited well for next season and should be knocking on the door for an NCAA Bid soon

BE NCAA Teams and Seeds
5-Seed Marquette, NET 28

6-Seed Villanova Ranked #23, NET 26

10-Seed Seton Hall, NET 57

11-Seed Saint Johns, NET 73
Seeds Total = 5,6,10,11=32 Average Seed = 8.0
NET Total = 28,26,57,73 = 184 = 46.0 average NET
Before this season started I mentioned in a thread to watch out for the AAC, they could catch up with the Big East. The closing of the gap has actually happened faster than I thought.

If I were you I'd be more worried about the Big East and when is Val Ackerman ever going to expand to 11 or 12 teams? What is she possibly waiting for? Big mistake in my opinion not to go above 10 teams
Also, Chris Mullins and Patrick Ewing hires still have the jury out. I'd think a conference like the BE could get higher caliber Coaching candidates than those two - but time will tell, I could be wrong

Then if I was the Big East and was watching how the AAC was gaining on me I'd be very concerned about this latest news, no?
Thanks again for worrying about us and coming to our board in person to share your concerns

I'd do the same on the PC Board but then banned me years ago

I am not stupid. I question where the Big East will be long term when the Fox contract is up in 4 more years. I would expect that the Big East and American flip flop 6th and 7th best conference depending on the year.

When the conference elects to go to 11, I think it will be Saint Louis that gets the call (which I am not a huge fan of).

sevegny7 · Unread post by **sevegny7** » 5 years ago

I dont know if Cyril langevine was playing around or not but he went on Instagram live a few weeks ago saying he has big news to tell his fans. And today I saw a instagram post about him in football gear and sorry for the change. Hoping it is a joke but wondering if anyone had any inside info.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 5 years ago

Getting his in before the Monday deluge.

sevegny7 · Unread post by **sevegny7** » 5 years ago

I am hoping that is the case I guess time will tell.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 5 years ago

I'll remove him from the site header today I guess.

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 5 years ago

If you all don’t know by now, Cyril is a joker.

Taylor Swift · Unread post by **Taylor Swift** » 5 years ago

Every IG story I've ever seen of his...he's always kidding around or doing something like brushing his teeth, etc. April Fool's day is Monday after all.

sevegny7 · Unread post by **sevegny7** » 5 years ago

Yeah that's what I figured it was. But I'll admit it he got me. April fools ed me before it's even April lol. I know he is a jokester can remember the time he was a ramette for the womens game.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 5 years ago

Not that he wouldn't make a bad ass tight end..... we need his bad ass on the court.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 5 years ago

We're all a little shy from the events of a certain April Fool's Day 20 years ago...

Rhodymob05 · Unread post by **Rhodymob05** » 5 years ago

Starting lineup/rotation next season?

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 5 years ago

steviep123 wrote: ↑5 years ago We're all a little shy from the events of a certain April Fool's Day 20 years ago...

Agreed.

Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 5 years ago

Rhodymob05 wrote: ↑5 years ago Starting lineup/rotation next season?

It’s hard to say when we’re still recruiting for two open spots. My guess starters don’t change unless Antwan pushes out Harris.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 5 years ago

I’m almost positive that you will see the exact same starting lineup. The question is rotation and minutes distribution.

SandorClegane · Unread post by **SandorClegane** » 5 years ago

Would expect some combination of the below as far as depth chart is concerned. Maybe add a big or a shooter with the final scholarship.

G - Fatts - Sheppard
G - Dowtin - Thompson
F - Martin - Hammond - Long
F - Harris - Tate - Mading
F - Cyril - Walker

Doubt Cox wants to go 12 deep every game but it’s nice to have depth.

Rhodymob05 · Unread post by **Rhodymob05** » 5 years ago

Next seasons practices are going to be like tryouts, everyone’s going to be fighting for that rotation with 12 guys. Should make them more competitive.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

SandorClegane wrote: ↑5 years ago Would expect some combination of the below as far as depth chart is concerned. Maybe add a big or a shooter with the final scholarship.

G - Fatts - Sheppard
G - Dowtin - Thompson
F - Martin - Hammond - Long
F - Harris - Tate - Mading
F - Cyril - Walker

Doubt Cox wants to go 12 deep every game but it’s nice to have depth.

More like

PG & SG - Dowtin, Fatts & Sheppard
SF - Martin, Thompson & Tate
PF - Harris, Walker & Tate
C - Cyril, Walker

That’s a 9 man rotation.
Thompson isn’t playing any G
Some positionless basketball upfront.
It’s easier to estimate minutes per game than slot the positions.

Ramulous · Unread post by **Ramulous** » 5 years ago

I see guards and forwards only

Guards.....Dowtin, Russell, Thompson, Martin, Sheppard and Hammond

Forwards...Langevine, Harris, Tate, Walker, Mading, Long and the 13th player

I think Thompson and Martin can be in either category....maybe also Hammond....

I need to see Mading, Long, and Hammond in game conditions to properly slot them....Mading could be a guard....if he can't rebound and defend the front court

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 5 years ago

SandorClegane wrote: ↑5 years ago Would expect some combination of the below as far as depth chart is concerned. Maybe add a big or a shooter with the final scholarship.

G - Fatts - Sheppard
G - Dowtin - Thompson
F - Martin - Hammond - Long
F - Harris - Tate - Mading
F - Cyril - Walker

Doubt Cox wants to go 12 deep every game but it’s nice to have depth.

12 deep?

Has any coach done that ever? Of course he’s not going to play 12 guys nightly.

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 5 years ago

VCU plays 11 guys. We will look to play 10-11 guys next season. If we want to go on a deep run, we need to be fresh come tourney time.

SandorClegane · Unread post by **SandorClegane** » 5 years ago

Rhody15 wrote: ↑5 years ago
SandorClegane wrote: ↑5 years ago Would expect some combination of the below as far as depth chart is concerned. Maybe add a big or a shooter with the final scholarship.

G - Fatts - Sheppard
G - Dowtin - Thompson
F - Martin - Hammond - Long
F - Harris - Tate - Mading
F - Cyril - Walker

Doubt Cox wants to go 12 deep every game but it’s nice to have depth.

12 deep?

Has any coach done that ever? Of course he’s not going to play 12 guys nightly.

That’s exactly what I was insinuating. You have 12 guys, Cox needs to determine the slots. Notice the word ‘doubt’.

KevanBoyles · Unread post by **KevanBoyles** » 5 years ago

I think Fatts has to learn to be more efficient in drawing fouls when going to the hoop. Too many empty possessions when he drives to the hole. Does anyone know of a metric anywhere that measures his efficiency compared to others? I’d be interested to see how he measures up.

KevanBoyles · Unread post by **KevanBoyles** » 5 years ago

Harper of Auburn, who is 5’11”, really finishes well at the hoop. Regularly beating Kentucky’s rim protectors. I think Fatts is as fast and I hope is is taking notes on this performance.

Rhody4Life · Unread post by **Rhody4Life** » 5 years ago

KevanBoyles wrote: ↑5 years ago Harper of Auburn, who is 5’11”, really finishes well at the hoop. Regularly beating Kentucky’s rim protectors. I think Fatts is as fast and I hope is is taking notes on this performance.

I agree, Harper was quite impressive around the rim. Would be nice to see Fatts turn into something like that.

Other than the obvious shooting reps, Fatts just needs to work on his consistency, poise, mentality and on court demeanor. Which, is not something that can really be practiced. I know there are plenty of doubters and people who will disagree, but I expect a major leap from Fatts next year. Though, I also expect a major leap from Harris and Martin as well. I already like Tyrese's game a lot. Maybe that's just me being a homer and overly optimistic though.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 5 years ago

I’m bullish on Martin as well. Needs to work on his ball handling and being more assertive, but in our league a 6’6” athletic wing who can shoot and drive it is a big time matchup problem. If he can develop his ball handling and can slide between the 2 and 3 he will make us hard to guard.

Rhody4Life · Unread post by **Rhody4Life** » 5 years ago

I completely agree with you BAR. Martin's only real weakness seemed to be his handle, and it wasn't even that bad. Would love to see him be more aggressive next year looking for his shot or the drive. But I think he's going to at least be a very solid player for the next 3 years. His defense alone will keep him on the court more often than not.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

Some thoughts about posts above.

What defines a rotation?
VCU had 7 players who averaged 10 minutes+. Was Omar part of Rhody’s rotation this year (he avg 8 minutes).
The top team with a large rotation was Houston. They had 10 players who averaged 10 minutes+ with 7 players averaging 14 minutes +.
Thompson and Martin will not play SG for more than 10 minutes the entire year.

Mongo · Unread post by **Mongo** » 5 years ago

Next years rotation IMHO:

PG Fatts
PG/SG Dowtin
SG/SF Martin
PF/C (Much Improved uninjuried) Harris
C The Man Child Cyril

Bench:
Sheppard PG/SG
Thompson SG/SF
Tate SF/PF
Walker PF

FR Rotation:
Long, Mading, Hammond TBD on PT I think Long has most short term potential.

Very legit 9 deep, could be more if Fresman surprise and we pick up another legit player. These are good times!!!

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 5 years ago

Good to have some depth

I like a solid 9 man rotation mostly

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 5 years ago

Sounds like TJ might have got bad news about the promotion.....

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 5 years ago

Iggy1979 wrote: ↑5 years ago Sounds like TJ might have got bad news about the promotion.....

Meaning??

Rhodymob05 · Unread post by **Rhodymob05** » 5 years ago

Boy, there's more teasing done here then the Foxy.

URIRecruitingInfo · Unread post by **URIRecruitingInfo** » 5 years ago

DC_Rams wrote: ↑5 years ago
Iggy1979 wrote: ↑5 years ago Sounds like TJ might have got bad news about the promotion.....
Meaning??

TJ, who doesn't tweet very often, tweeted "No need for me!!!" today. TJ is the DBO, there is an open Assistant Coach position, ...

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 5 years ago

If they don’t promote TJ then hopefully they have someone really good lined up. He seemed like a good candidate to me, although between him and Ty not sure you have a super strong second assistant between them. I’d hope he’d consider another year as DBO, although I’m sure he feels he’s ready to be a proper assistant coach.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 5 years ago

Cant help but feel like we would be dumb to lose him right now.

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 5 years ago

Cox needs a younger vet on staff. Not a first time coach. I love TJ, but he needs to cut his teeth at a lower level school first.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

I disagree

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 5 years ago

To each his own. Cox needs more time under his belt. He needs to ensure his own success.