RUMORS: Shaka Smart to Marquette? (and other Coach moves)

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

And so did I. Stevens isn't going anywhere for a while. Just like Shaka.

Right now, there seems like there are 100 candidates for these better jobs. Most of them have no interest in these jobs. Just the Twitter world we live in.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:And so did I. Stevens isn't going anywhere for a while. Just like Shaka.

Right now, there seems like there are 100 candidates for these better jobs. Most of them have no interest in these jobs. Just the Twitter world we live in.

I don't get why you brought up Brad Stevens at all. What does he have to do with anything? Are we just going to list every person on the planet who isn't interested in the BC job? That might take a while.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

Probably because it would be interesting to see when and if he comes back to college coaching.

I know it's not happening any time soon, and certainly not at BC.

Hey, it's fun to think about, no more no less. I'm not trying to start rumors, that's for those who tweet. And I don't.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Looks like Milwaukee media has finally come to their senses and
are running up the white flag. What a farce!

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldenea ... 25081.html

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldenea ... 25521.html

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 10 years ago

TruePoint wrote:
rambone 78 wrote:And so did I. Stevens isn't going anywhere for a while. Just like Shaka.

Right now, there seems like there are 100 candidates for these better jobs. Most of them have no interest in these jobs. Just the Twitter world we live in.
I don't get why you brought up Brad Stevens at all. What does he have to do with anything? Are we just going to list every person on the planet who isn't interested in the BC job? That might take a while.

Thank you, but I am not interested in the BC job. Call me next year.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

Talk about being duped. It was panic city.

Classic!!!

What really hurts [for them]
is one of their best and most trusted sources, shit all over himself on this one.

Took the bait, hook, line, and sinker.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 10 years ago

the threads on the PC board have gone dark on Smart, after a day of chest thumping

it is sorta great that we are all they have to pick on, poach our coaches, poach our programs, hey why stop there might as well try to poach our players too since even though they arent all "Top 100" recruits they seem to perform better on the court. definitely a threat, but poetic justice all the same. how the mighty have fallen.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

Maybe a BE program will pick up Baron.

He might be available again soon, after Canisius has enough of him.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

Maybe a BE program will pick up Baron.

He might be available again soon, after Canisius has enough of him.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 10 years ago

It's not nearly as exciting as the rumors, but George Mason's AD Tom O'Connor is retiring.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

Masiello leaving Manhattan for USF. Not sure if that's been posted already.

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 10 years ago

I checked the pc board for kicks last night. One of their posters (unfortunately not Crotchbutter) said that he has a "reliable source (sauce)" and he was sure Shaka was going to MU.

Don't worry, 78. No one wants Baron. He's out of sons!

I wonder if Cooley is getting any interest from some of these openings? If we hear anything, let's post early and often. Even if we don't...

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

As BAR noted, the Ultimate Warrior style chest pounding that
was going on the Scout board, yesterday had ended in a whimper.
"Ohhhhh, yeahhhh!!!!!!!!!! Who wants VCU, now that we got Shaka!"
Rooke snidely commenting, saying, he was glad I knew everything from my world headquarters in Cranston.
So, who has the last laugh? Who fell for a sophomoric Twitter prank?
We had people at VCU telling us Smart was there all day, while Rooke is asking me,
"So Rod, what about the 5:00 meeting?" As if it were gospel that he heard from
"campus sources".
WRONG! I hope the dummy at Milwaukee TV gets canned for lousy journalism, too.
Shame on people who should know better running off pell mell, in wild hysteria, over a story with no legs and even less
sources.

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 10 years ago

Rooke should spend his time at pc. If he really wants a scoop, I'm hearing that the school has just completed their "internal investigation" on the Marvin Barnes issue. Results to be released soon.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 10 years ago

A VCU coach is leaving.

It's Mike Rhoades (Smart's top assistant) to Rice.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 10 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:As BAR noted, the Ultimate Warrior style chest pounding that
was going on the Scout board, yesterday had ended in a whimper.
"Ohhhhh, yeahhhh!!!!!!!!!! Who wants VCU, now that we got Shaka!"
Rooke snidely commenting, saying, he was glad I knew everything from my world headquarters in Cranston.
So, who has the last laugh? Who fell for a sophomoric Twitter prank?
We had people at VCU telling us Smart was there all day, while Rooke is asking me,
"So Rod, what about the 5:00 meeting?" As if it were gospel that he heard from
"campus sources".
WRONG! I hope the dummy at Milwaukee TV gets canned for lousy journalism, too.
Shame on people who should know better running off pell mell, in wild hysteria, over a story with no legs and even less
sources.

Isn't Rooke supposed to be a journalist? Doesn't he confirm anything before writing or mouthing off? Seems he ran with erroneous info yesterday. It joins his Danny Hurley to URI is a pipe-dream rantings a few years ago. The more he writes or says, the more evidence he provides that he is a fraud and know nothing blowhard.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 10 years ago

DistrictBaller!!

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

Shaka loves that tie, huh?

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 10 years ago

I can't wait until Rhode Island is good enough to beat VCU.

seanmc94 · Unread post by **seanmc94** » 10 years ago

kinda like the Kris Dunn to URI rumor...

Not once; but twice...

Some posters have "Fonzie-itis" over that one

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 10 years ago

the guy at the FOX channel in milwaukee who erroneously broke a non-story, and the guy at FOX that thought it was a wise investment to pay 4MM a year to televise PC basketball games are likely both on monster.com right now......

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 10 years ago

seanmc94 wrote:kinda like the Kris Dunn to URI rumor...

Not once; but twice...

Some posters have "Fonzie-itis" over that one

you mean the one started by the Projo and substantiated by Kevin Mac? that one?

seanmc94 · Unread post by **seanmc94** » 10 years ago

ramster wrote:
seanmc94 wrote:kinda like the Kris Dunn to URI rumor...

Not once; but twice...

Some posters have "Fonzie-itis" over that one
you mean the one started by the Projo and substantiated by Kevin Mac? that one?

Don't be a jerk; NO ONE but you thought Bron was going to "shock the world" and land Dunn.

NO ONE ever said he was looking to transfer to URI.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 10 years ago

ya know the other difference between the Dunn to URI thread on the URI board and the Shaka to MU thread on the PC board....there isnt 1 Rhody fan trolling that conversation being a d-bag. hmmmm.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

Rumor has it, that Izzo might retire after this season, especially if they go all the way to the title.

Now that would be a big time job opening up!

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 10 years ago

No way that happens. He has way more years left in the tank. These guys can't retire, for the most part, 99% of them it is in their blood to coach as long as possible.

Look at Larry Brown.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 10 years ago

TruePoint wrote:Shaka loves that tie, huh?

the power of paisley

Rhody4012016 · Unread post by **Rhody4012016** » 10 years ago

I also heard Izzo got offered the pistons job.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Yes, they're still at it on the dark side.
Now they're talking themselves into saying there's just
a "delay", which has caused Smart not to go to MU.
These goofs won't let this go until MU announces someone else
as coach, and maybe then the truth will dawn on them.
And they call US stupid?

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 10 years ago

TruePoint wrote:Masiello leaving Manhattan for USF. Not sure if that's been posted already.

Or not.

http://tbo.com/sports/colleges/usf-bull ... -20140326/

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 10 years ago

Wow Ace, that is amazing, especially with all of the connections he has.
Any idea what the red flag was?

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

He tore the manufacturer tag off his mattress in 1984.
He was arrested for jay walking in the Bronx in 1986.
Entered a restaurant with no shirt, no shoes, and got no service,
in 1997.
Did not have written permission from Major League baseball and rebroadcasted a game to his
beer buddies in 2004.
Tried to use Canadian quarters for a carwash in 2009.
FBI now investigating.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

That is unreal. This is something I should know but don't: what is his status at Manhattan now? Can he just go back there like nothing happened? Is Manhattan going to want to know what the snafu was?

Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 10 years ago

Wow, it would have to be something major for the deal to fall through at that stage. I can't imagine Manhatten would want him back, despite his success there.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Shades of George O'Leary, who went from GTech to ND,
and got caught on some resume fibs.
Ruined the career of a good coach, and ND didn't hire anyone
better.
So, did GTech then, and Manhattan, now, miss something or just
ignore it?

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 10 years ago

Ironically enough, O'Leary ended up at USF, didn't he?

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 10 years ago

He apparently did not actually graduate from Kentucky. Sounds like an Eddie Jordan kind of thing, but he was allowed to stay.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 10 years ago

seanmc94 wrote:
ramster wrote:
seanmc94 wrote:kinda like the Kris Dunn to URI rumor...

Not once; but twice...

Some posters have "Fonzie-itis" over that one
you mean the one started by the Projo and substantiated by Kevin Mac? that one?
Don't be a jerk; NO ONE but you thought Bron was going to "shock the world" and land Dunn.

NO ONE ever said he was looking to transfer to URI.

What is wrong with you. Seriously. For the 400th time I said I had a hunch, a hunch, HUNCH, that Dunn might surprise the world and pick URI. He did not. That is far different from saying he was coming to uri. At the same time period I did predict and say that Jordan Hare was coming - I didn't say at the time I had a hunch he was coming I said he was coming. Was my hunch wrong - sure if you want to say a hunch is wrong to begin with.
Take a look at the Rokas thread where I said we were recruiting him before any other source anywhere had it. Who cares really but if you are going to haunt me on a hunch on Dunn then fine be a horses butt.
One other prediction I made and was not a hunch but based on inside info was that keno Davis was gone and the vast majority disagreed with me then a month later he was - that was not a hunch.
I also predicted that Ledo would never play a game with PC - no hunch there either as I knew otherwise.
So wrong on the Dunn hunch - shoot me.
And you ripping one of the best posters in the history of the uri board essam constantly about the Dunn rumor just pisses me off. Go read what the projo said about it too as it was not only discussed here.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 10 years ago

Why did USF have to do a background check on Masiello. Rick Pitino, a pillar of moral character, personally vouched for him.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

Wonder if Manhattan knew that? Does it really matter?

Lying on your resume, though, isn't a good thing.

However, it's not like he had a felony conviction that wasn't disclosed.

bressler3south · Unread post by **bressler3south** » 10 years ago

Rumor has it that seanmc94 is really the DEEP-THROAT OPERATIVE for the gordofox/daveycicilline "PVD/DC/FBI GRAPEVINE"…….
Just a HUNCH.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Mattress tag rippers face Federal charges, if caught!
This is serious stuff.
Actually, Masiello said he graduated from KY, but actually didn't.
Big whoop! Does this make him any less of a basketball coach?
Sure just ruin some guy's career over this. Ridiculous.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 10 years ago

I guess USF has a requirement that their hoop coach has a college degree?

Who knows?

He'll get another job.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 10 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:Mattress tag rippers face Federal charges, if caught!
This is serious stuff.
Actually, Masiello said he graduated from KY, but actually didn't.
Big whoop! Does this make him any less of a basketball coach?
Sure just ruin some guy's career over this. Ridiculous.

Disagree. They work for a college. Coaches should at least have a bachelors degree. It isn't very hard to get a degree these days given all the options.

As for ruining his careeer - it would seem he is most responsible for this as he checked off that he had graduated from Kentucky.

The Jordan hiring at Rutgers this past spring had some similarities. Rutgers assumed that he had graduated from their school. One would have thought they could have easily verified this but they didn't until he had already been hired. The difference in the Jordan case was that he supposedly never indicated that he had graduated from Rutgers. He had previously listed that he attended Rutgers.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 10 years ago

TruePoint wrote:Ironically enough, O'Leary ended up at USF, didn't he?

no, University of Central Florida.

Here is the thread from the USF Message Board:

http://thebullspen.com/index.php/topic/ ... lo/page-30

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Um, Eddie JORDAN is the Rutgers coach and he didn't graduate.
BFD!

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 10 years ago

Unfortunetly for Shaka Smart, he will continue to be subject to coaching rumors every offseason until he ends up at a prime coaching opportunity. He's the #1 coach out there not at his final coaching destination.

I see a lot in Smart what I thought I saw in Brad Stevens. Most assumed he wanted to go for the Duke job one day and wouldn't leave Butler until it happened. These things are unpredictable. So will Smart be the loyal guy like Mark Few, or eventually jump like Stevens?

There is no true loyalty. Every person has a final goal.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 10 years ago

You never know where a coaches "final destination" will be, money, life changes, location. There are many moves that are perplexing, I assume you wouldn't have thought Buzz Williams would leave MU for VTech if I told you that a week ago. Your own coach may not be in his final destination, you can't anticipate what he would do if UCLA came calling b/c that has never happened. Providence is nice, Westwood is a bit nicer. So net net, you never know and all coaches are coveted by something bigger (mid majors to majors, majors to the pros). It is human nature to want to excel at the highest level, which ends up being defined by highest level of compensation and highest level of competition. Loyalty does not exist in the college coaching industry.

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 10 years ago

bigappleram wrote:You never know where a coaches "final destination" will be, money, life changes, location. There are many moves that are perplexing, I assume you wouldn't have thought Buzz Williams would leave MU for VTech if I told you that a week ago. Your own coach may not be in his final destination, you can't anticipate what he would do if UCLA came calling b/c that has never happened. Providence is nice, Westwood is a bit nicer. So net net, you never know and all coaches are coveted by something bigger (mid majors to majors, majors to the pros). It is human nature to want to excel at the highest level, which ends up being defined by highest level of compensation and highest level of competition. Loyalty does not exist in the college coaching industry.

It's coming out that Buzz Williams ran from Marquette because he was a sketchball, not because V-Tech was more desirable. That said you are right, you never know what the final destination will be. That's why it's important for schools to keep their coaches happy and keep their facilities competitive with the best. Why do you think PC is pushing so hard for a state-of-the-art practice facility, make such improvements to Alumni, and are paying Cooley a competitive salary? But even then, if Florida came calling and offered nearly double the money and better facilities, what does that all mean? It's why I laugh at Xavier. They aren't keep Chris Mack from places like Wake Forest paying him $450,000. They aren't keeping him from places like that paying him $1 million. The BCS schools have more money to spend and the football facilities to back it up. If a basketball school wants to be more than a stepping stone, they need to financially support their coach 150%, and even then that might not ever be enough.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 10 years ago

Odd thing is, other than Larry Brown, guys who go from college
to NBA fail.
Even high profile ones like Pitino and Calipari had their nadir in the NBA,
and came back to college ball.
These guru types fail, because they're trying to cajole players in the NBA, who dwarf
what their coaches are making. They tune out the BS. It's a different culture.
It's why Coach K has been smart enough to not make the jump to the NBA, and why
Billy Donovan wisely did the same, after accepting an NBA job.
It's why Izzo to the Pistons makes no sense.