Re: 2/3 | Duquesne | 12:30PM (USA)
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:07 pm
watching rhody teams have figured how to get open 3's versus our d
the name now is RHO-E ISLAN- --- NO D
the name now is RHO-E ISLAN- --- NO D
Once again, that’s not why I brought up his salary. I don’t give a shit what % of his pay comes from state funds.RAMFAN wrote: ↑3 months agothank you! it's this channel 12 bullshit narrative which hurts URI getting funding.Rhode_Island_Red wrote: ↑3 months agoPuh-leeeze. Only about 7% of his pay comes from state funds. Janitors collect more state dollars.rhodyram22 wrote: ↑3 months ago
Considering his salary, he hasn't been good enough in his 2nd year. The excuses need to end.
This is just not truePeterRamTime wrote: ↑3 months ago The program is exactly where it was with Cox one and a half years into Arch. Apathy with zero momentum for the future.
You’re right.rhodysurf wrote: ↑3 months agoThis is just not truePeterRamTime wrote: ↑3 months ago The program is exactly where it was with Cox one and a half years into Arch. Apathy with zero momentum for the future.
I don't think Foumena is ever the first option, he's just always open because the defense sags on him. Hes supposed to hand it off to a guard coming off a screen, or look to the low post. He just made the wrong decision.rhodyrudder wrote: ↑3 months agoWith 8 seconds to go, no lessrhodyram22 wrote: ↑3 months ago that was the play Archie drew up during the timeout? A fucking Foumena airball 3?
I think it is probably wishful thinking at this point that this team will change much and play better D. 2/3 of the season is now in the books and it is pretty clear that this team is not capable of any semblance of good defense. This deficiency will keep it from beating many more teams. Anyone expecting more than a few wins (2-4 including the tournament) from here on out for these guys will most likely be very disappointed.PeterRamTime wrote: ↑3 months ago It just looks like we dont have the quickness on the perimeter to execute this defense. Maybe they can be better, but I think every single team we have played has quicker guards than we do. Can't keep anyone in front of us and can't recover fast enough to defend the three.
Either Archie continues to run it and people run up the score on us or we need to switch it up. It may be this group can't play any defense though. Idk.
The program is exactly where it was with Cox one and a half years into Arch. Apathy with zero momentum for the future.
Kid has to have more shot attempts than passes this year.Rhodymob05 wrote: ↑3 months agoI don't think Foumena is ever the first option, he's just always open because the defense sags on him. Hes supposed to hand it off to a guard coming off a screen, or look to the low post. He just made the wrong decision.rhodyrudder wrote: ↑3 months agoWith 8 seconds to go, no lessrhodyram22 wrote: ↑3 months ago that was the play Archie drew up during the timeout? A fucking Foumena airball 3?
Rhody15 wrote: ↑3 months agoYou’re right.rhodysurf wrote: ↑3 months agoThis is just not truePeterRamTime wrote: ↑3 months ago The program is exactly where it was with Cox one and a half years into Arch. Apathy with zero momentum for the future.
Cox had us 23-8 and on the bubble during the covid season.
Had 3 future NBA players on a team at one point.
We’re worse than that.
I said to my wife as we were leaving, we won't see a crowd like this again this year.
05, this thought crossed my mind as well.Rhodymob05 wrote: ↑3 months agoI don't think Foumena is ever the first option, he's just always open because the defense sags on him. Hes supposed to hand it off to a guard coming off a screen, or look to the low post. He just made the wrong decision.rhodyrudder wrote: ↑3 months agoWith 8 seconds to go, no lessrhodyram22 wrote: ↑3 months ago that was the play Archie drew up during the timeout? A fucking Foumena airball 3?
I'd like to suggest you check out last year's d by binge-watching all those games in a single weekend to compare to this year.Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑3 months agoTP, I think we certainly are better offensively than last year. However, I don’t see it on D. That is my Birds Eye view.TruePoint wrote: ↑3 months agoPeterRamTime wrote: ↑3 months ago Hey guys! Just wait out the year!
Don't overreact or anything! Don't even hint that the sky is falling!
I mean….this product stinks to watch. There’s no denying that, or sugarcoating it. Still, we are clearly better than last year in just about every conceivable way. Any hope we had of arriving ahead of schedule I think can be forgotten at this point, but I don’t think we are behind schedule either. For as long as we continue to move in the right direction, however modestly, I don’t think we can say the sky is falling. Next year will be an important year - we cannot backslide from here, we have to get better and at some point hope something clicks and we make a leap.
But, I haven’t done a deep dive in our D analytics last year versus this year nor have I studied tape on both.
I think there is sufficient length and athleticism currently to be better than they are. I think the problem on D is between the ears for this team.
That raises a pretty good question. Let's say all the guys come back and have "another year of experience"steveystuds06 wrote: ↑3 months agoHonestly, I think teams weren't aware of David Green. They watched a lot of game tapes of us without him. Once teams started to double him and focus on him more, we went back to looking like a poorly coached bottom-tier A10 team. Green is still very good, but teams know how to defend us now. We also shot out our minds all game against Umass. Guys were hitting 3s with Umass right in their faces. That's never going to last. And this idea that we can make a massive jump next year. How? Are we going to land a couple of All A10 level players? Because if you bring back most of this roster, we will improve but we will still be increidbly far away from an NCAA bid and likely not that close to an NIT bid.
Let's see if we can make a push and come back. Getting it back to 10 was step one but we will need to defend if we have any chance. Let's pull another Yale and pull it out.
FIFY
I'm not comparing their year two's lolrhodysurf wrote: ↑3 months agoThis is just not truePeterRamTime wrote: ↑3 months ago The program is exactly where it was with Cox one and a half years into Arch. Apathy with zero momentum for the future.
Thats not what I meant. We are exactly where we were when Cox was fired. That's what I meant. Zero momentum and total apathy.Rhody15 wrote: ↑3 months agoYou’re right.rhodysurf wrote: ↑3 months agoThis is just not truePeterRamTime wrote: ↑3 months ago The program is exactly where it was with Cox one and a half years into Arch. Apathy with zero momentum for the future.
Cox had us 23-8 and on the bubble during the covid season.
Had 3 future NBA players on a team at one point.
We’re worse than that.
Rory's pic was up there on the big screen advertising an upcoming game at one point...maybe he didn't get back in time from the photoshoot?Billyboy78 wrote: ↑3 months agoHe was in uniform but was standing at half court with Bilau while the team warmed up. So, he's dealing with something. And Rory wasn't even there. Where is he?
Eh we’re ahead of that, but not by much.PeterRamTime wrote: ↑3 months agoI'm not comparing their year two's lolrhodysurf wrote: ↑3 months agoThis is just not truePeterRamTime wrote: ↑3 months ago The program is exactly where it was with Cox one and a half years into Arch. Apathy with zero momentum for the future.
I'm saying we are exactly where we were in cox's last season.
I think Luis is banged up. He looks much slower out there ever since that knee and ankle injury. A fast defensive guard like Hammond will be a breath of fresh air next season, although he'll have issues with the stronger guards.RI_Bred wrote: ↑3 months agoI said to my wife as we were leaving, we won't see a crowd like this again this year.
The players coming out for shoot around before the second half - their body language was just awful. I really am starting to not like Kortwright at the point. Sluggish and apathetic. I know we don't have much of a choice right now. Maybe it's just me but the lack of desire out there is palpable in real time. Coaches trying to coach the players up during timeouts or on the bench and it just looks like the players could not care less.
Also thought Miller again did not coach well - the plays coming out of timeouts were questionable at best. I can't imagine he has lost his ability to call plays and coach, but maybe he can't get the emotional buy-in from these guys. Kind of at a loss for words.
It's easy to shoot 3s when nobody is guarding you. A 35% shooter probably shoots at least 50% when he gets wide open looks. We're making offenses look a lot better than they are.DeanDome88 wrote: ↑3 months ago Duquesne was physical and shot very well from 3. I doubt they shoot that well in their dreams. Officials with a few head scratching calls. Ryan Center got LOUD there for a moment in the second half and Dubront called time out and stopped the mini rally. I do not think Always would have helped in this physical game. A few signs of life from Zek. Foumena getting burnt for those lob dunks because he lacks a feel for playing defense so often confused as to what he should be doing on that end. I do not know why the coaching staff can't coach these guys up he was in the program all last year. but still looks like a true freshman.
When it comes to our investment in our program, it's better. We also have a few key freshmen that we can hopefully build around. But the product on the floor I completely agree. We look like a poorly coached team, or if you want to blame it on the players, we recruited a bad team. However you want to spin it, it still falls on Archie. I'm not giving up on him. I still believe he can turn things around, but the bad losses keep happening, and I'm seeing programs all around the country and in our conferece dealt a similar hand as Archie that look much better than we do.PeterRamTime wrote: ↑3 months agoThats not what I meant. We are exactly where we were when Cox was fired. That's what I meant. Zero momentum and total apathy.
We were also 21-9 that year.
Yea, the on court product is basically the same but the overall program and infrastructure is light years better.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑3 months agoWhen it comes to our investment in our program, it's better. We also have a few key freshmen that we can hopefully build around. But the product on the floor I completely agree. We look like a poorly coached team, or if you want to blame it on the players, we recruited a bad team. However you want to spin it, it still falls on Archie. I'm not giving up on him. I still believe he can turn things around, but the bad losses keep happening, and I'm seeing programs all around the country and in our conferece dealt a similar hand as Archie that look much better than we do.PeterRamTime wrote: ↑3 months agoThats not what I meant. We are exactly where we were when Cox was fired. That's what I meant. Zero momentum and total apathy.
We were also 21-9 that year.
lol.Rhody15 wrote: ↑3 months agoYou’re right.rhodysurf wrote: ↑3 months agoThis is just not truePeterRamTime wrote: ↑3 months ago The program is exactly where it was with Cox one and a half years into Arch. Apathy with zero momentum for the future.
Cox had us 23-8 and on the bubble during the covid season.
Had 3 future NBA players on a team at one point.
We’re worse than that.
Samesteveystuds06 wrote: ↑3 months agoWhen it comes to our investment in our program, it's better. We also have a few key freshmen that we can hopefully build around. But the product on the floor I completely agree. We look like a poorly coached team, or if you want to blame it on the players, we recruited a bad team. However you want to spin it, it still falls on Archie. I'm not giving up on him. I still believe he can turn things around, but the bad losses keep happening, and I'm seeing programs all around the country and in our conferece dealt a similar hand as Archie that look much better than we do.PeterRamTime wrote: ↑3 months agoThats not what I meant. We are exactly where we were when Cox was fired. That's what I meant. Zero momentum and total apathy.
We were also 21-9 that year.
His eyes light up like a kid on Christmas morning when he sees he has space out on the 3 point line, like the end of the first half that was definitely not the play call and pulled a Fatts and did what he wanted toJdrums#3 wrote: ↑3 months ago05, this thought crossed my mind as well.Rhodymob05 wrote: ↑3 months agoI don't think Foumena is ever the first option, he's just always open because the defense sags on him. Hes supposed to hand it off to a guard coming off a screen, or look to the low post. He just made the wrong decision.
Been saying this since game 1. Made my first trip to the Ryan Center this year and the environment was great, the team not so much. College basketball is a guard oriented game and we do not have any true point guards on our roster, just a bunch of combo guards who cant run an offense and get constantly get burned on defense all the time. We have some weapons on offense but nothing that can overcome how poor the defense is. I can only imagine how much better this team would be with a Jeff Dowtin type player running the offense, it would make a HUGE difference. This team is in desperate need of some quick and speedy guards who can run an offense and force turnovers on defense, we have nothing close to that on this roster.PeterRamTime wrote: ↑3 months ago It just looks like we dont have the quickness on the perimeter to execute this defense. Maybe they can be better, but I think every single team we have played has quicker guards than we do. Can't keep anyone in front of us and can't recover fast enough to defend the three.
Either Archie continues to run it and people run up the score on us or we need to switch it up. It may be this group can't play any defense though. Idk.
The program is exactly where it was with Cox one and a half years into Arch. Apathy with zero momentum for the future.
Honest to God when I watch our guys play defense sagging down for no reason and then running too late at a player shooting an open jump shot. It finally hit me today RHODY is trying to play defense like NBA players. Unfortunately like NBA players play defense at the NBA All Star Game.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑3 months agoIt's easy to shoot 3s when nobody is guarding you. A 35% shooter probably shoots at least 50% when he gets wide open looks. We're making offenses look a lot better than they are.DeanDome88 wrote: ↑3 months ago Duquesne was physical and shot very well from 3. I doubt they shoot that well in their dreams. Officials with a few head scratching calls. Ryan Center got LOUD there for a moment in the second half and Dubront called time out and stopped the mini rally. I do not think Always would have helped in this physical game. A few signs of life from Zek. Foumena getting burnt for those lob dunks because he lacks a feel for playing defense so often confused as to what he should be doing on that end. I do not know why the coaching staff can't coach these guys up he was in the program all last year. but still looks like a true freshman.
I've never seen a team sag off other teams' best shooters like we do. It's incredible. It's stuff they teach you in middle school. I get that Grant is a tough guard, but overplay him and make him drive. Do a box and one. Double him..Do something different! I'd rather him score in a midrange or layup than draining 3 after 3 after 3..brady1 wrote: ↑3 months agoHonest to God when I watch our guys play defense sagging down for no reason and then running too late at a player shooting an open jump shot. It finally hit me today RHODY is trying to play defense like NBA players. Unfortunately like NBA players play defense at the NBA All Star Game.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑3 months agoIt's easy to shoot 3s when nobody is guarding you. A 35% shooter probably shoots at least 50% when he gets wide open looks. We're making offenses look a lot better than they are.DeanDome88 wrote: ↑3 months ago Duquesne was physical and shot very well from 3. I doubt they shoot that well in their dreams. Officials with a few head scratching calls. Ryan Center got LOUD there for a moment in the second half and Dubront called time out and stopped the mini rally. I do not think Always would have helped in this physical game. A few signs of life from Zek. Foumena getting burnt for those lob dunks because he lacks a feel for playing defense so often confused as to what he should be doing on that end. I do not know why the coaching staff can't coach these guys up he was in the program all last year. but still looks like a true freshman.
GO RHODY!
It's almost like one coach inherited a program in perfect shape to make it back to the tournament but nuked it and one inherited a nuked program and is trying to rebuild from the ashesRhody15 wrote: ↑3 months agoYou’re right.rhodysurf wrote: ↑3 months agoThis is just not truePeterRamTime wrote: ↑3 months ago The program is exactly where it was with Cox one and a half years into Arch. Apathy with zero momentum for the future.
Cox had us 23-8 and on the bubble during the covid season.
Had 3 future NBA players on a team at one point.
We’re worse than that.
They're not 'helping in the post.' It kinda looks like that, but they're actually doin' the packy, where you only guard the yellow swath. So, if a guy is out there from just below the foul line extended and out, beyond the arc, you don't guard him, you retreat to the yellow. It's what you do.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑3 months ago Yeah, their 2 guards are by far their 2 leading scorers, averaging 17 and 15 or something like that. None of their bigs average double figures. Why are our guards dropping off and helping in the post? I'll take my chances with their bigs scoring one on one rather than their guards taking wide open threes.
Most talk about potential transfers after this season has been focused around guys leaving because they don't currently have a role and might not be talented enough to be an A10 player. I actually think it will mostly be guys that have had a role this year out of necessity but haven't had the necessary buy in.RI_Bred wrote: ↑3 months agoI said to my wife as we were leaving, we won't see a crowd like this again this year.
The players coming out for shoot around before the second half - their body language was just awful. I really am starting to not like Kortwright at the point. Sluggish and apathetic. I know we don't have much of a choice right now. Maybe it's just me but the lack of desire out there is palpable in real time. Coaches trying to coach the players up during timeouts or on the bench and it just looks like the players could not care less.
Also thought Miller again did not coach well - the plays coming out of timeouts were questionable at best. I can't imagine he has lost his ability to call plays and coach, but maybe he can't get the emotional buy-in from these guys. Kind of at a loss for words.
Yeah, that's still not true. That team had legitimate talent, more than this year's team, but couldn't play at all together. I'm not sure how many guys on pure talent alone would make Cox' last team. 4 or 5?PeterRamTime wrote: ↑3 months agoI'm not comparing their year two's lolrhodysurf wrote: ↑3 months agoThis is just not truePeterRamTime wrote: ↑3 months ago The program is exactly where it was with Cox one and a half years into Arch. Apathy with zero momentum for the future.
I'm saying we are exactly where we were in cox's last season.
I mostly agree, but disagree on the talent front. There was better talent on Cox' last two teams but he had no idea how to harness and utilize itRhody15 wrote: ↑3 months agoEh we’re ahead of that, but not by much.PeterRamTime wrote: ↑3 months agoI'm not comparing their year two's lol
I'm saying we are exactly where we were in cox's last season.
We now a practice facility, more individual talent, a better coaching staff, more state funding and a president who is committed to athletics.
A 14 win season. Wohoo. I’m guessing our OOC schedule was loaded. Oh yeah, we’re counting JWU as one of those wins.Blue Man wrote: ↑3 months agolol.
You’re too into your opposition character again.
David Cox inherited a championship program with 3 all-conference players and a wealth of NCAA and conference championship experience.
Please don’t compare the two. It’s laughable.
The comparison is Dan Hurley in his rebuild.
We’re right on pace for a 14 win season in year 2.
While the defense is a glaring issue, the biggest problem is the long spurts of non-existent offense. We can’t play in a half court, we need to be running. We don’t have a true PG.
Ben Hammond is that guy.
Like Hurley, we’d be getting our PG in year 3.
We’re a young team. Zero seniors. No one who knows how to win. Could catch fire in Brooklyn. Could disappoint.
It’s a rebuild. Act accordingly. Most importantly don’t blame the guy doing the rebuilding for the sins of the guy who crashed the program into the ground.