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Billyboy78 wrote: ↑3 months ago BTW, we aren't the only ones who see lack of effort and basically giving up when things aren't going well. The announcers noticed it too. They said when we came out of the locker room after halftime that the players had bad body language, looked dejected, were moving very slowly and had no energy. We're not imagining this.

rhodyrudder wrote: ↑3 months ago

section(105) wrote: ↑3 months ago

steveystuds06 wrote: ↑3 months ago The staff and donors know that teams will pursue our young pieces. A smart AD/coach will prepare for that. If Archie loses them and we have to start from scratch again, that's totally unacceptable. We put in the $$ to prevent that from happening.

Just asking, who is the “we” to out money in? Anyone feel like parking fees?

Can you imagine if they make all the cars pay for parking???
Two scenarios…
1) it drives ALL remaining fans away,,,
2) the SUCK of having to sit in traffic for an hour or more before the game just to get into the parking lot…

Rhodyram wrote: ↑3 months ago

ramster wrote: ↑3 months ago Pack line……

Was on sports center- most national exposure Rhodys had in a while.

RF1 wrote: ↑3 months ago

Rhodyram wrote: ↑3 months ago

ramster wrote: ↑3 months ago Pack line……

Was on sports center- most national exposure Rhodys had in a while.

Might have been the only person from Rhody playing defense.

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑3 months ago BTW, we aren't the only ones who see lack of effort and basically giving up when things aren't going well. The announcers noticed it too. They said when we came out of the locker room after halftime that the players had bad body language, looked dejected, were moving very slowly and had no energy. We're not imagining this.

ramster wrote: ↑3 months ago Pack line……

Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑3 months ago

ramster wrote: ↑3 months ago Pack line……

Archie could have taken a charge on that play. C’mon Arch square up and hold you position next time.

Taylor Swift wrote: ↑3 months ago

damram wrote: ↑3 months ago I guess I can show up 15 minutes early Wednesday night and get a hot dog and see the opening tip.

An $8.99 boiled hot dog?

rhodyrudder wrote: ↑3 months ago

Taylor Swift wrote: ↑3 months ago

damram wrote: ↑3 months ago I guess I can show up 15 minutes early Wednesday night and get a hot dog and see the opening tip.

An $8.99 boiled hot dog?

They’re on sale for $2…

RI_Bred wrote: ↑3 months ago

rhodyrudder wrote: ↑3 months ago

Taylor Swift wrote: ↑3 months ago

An $8.99 boiled hot dog?

They’re on sale for $2…

Beer should be too!

rambone 78 wrote: ↑3 months ago Billyboy, this reflects very poorly on Archie and the staff.

You never saw this with Dan. His players would run through a wall for him.

These players look like they would rather find some place to hide.

It's as bad as I've ever seen it here, and believe me, I've seen some bad shit over the years.

And we complained about Cox. This is worse. Thorr has to be concerned.

It's not like it's a player or two. It's most of them.

Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑3 months ago

ramster wrote: ↑3 months ago Pack line……

Archie could have taken a charge on that play. C’mon Arch square up and hold you position next time.

reef wrote: ↑3 months ago

Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑3 months ago

ramster wrote: ↑3 months ago Pack line……

Archie could have taken a charge on that play. C’mon Arch square up and hold you position next time.

Come on Arch reach @ that basketball and get a strip !

Obadiah wrote: ↑3 months ago I thought David Green would be that guy even though in my heart I don't believe one man can make that much of a difference.

steveystuds06 wrote: ↑3 months ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑3 months ago Billyboy, this reflects very poorly on Archie and the staff.

You never saw this with Dan. His players would run through a wall for him.

These players look like they would rather find some place to hide.

It's as bad as I've ever seen it here, and believe me, I've seen some bad shit over the years.

And we complained about Cox. This is worse. Thorr has to be concerned.

It's not like it's a player or two. It's most of them.

Bone, I understand your concerns, but it seems like you're focusing only on the negatives. We started off impressively with a 3-0 record in the A10. We've already matched last year's win total and are just two wins away from matching our A10 win total from last year. We lost to a desperate Bonnies team that is better than their record suggests, and to a Dayton team that's firing on all cylinders. It's frustrating and totally unacceptable to lose back-to-back games like this, but let's see how we handle the next four games before making statements like 'Archie is worse than Cox.' He's not, and it's not even close. I loved Dan, but we had plenty of games where we performed poorly and were defeated, especially in the early stages. I think some people forget how rough it was at the beginning. We lost a lot.

It's year 2 now. We have some promising young players. Our best freshman recruit on paper, Hammond, is coming in. We've seen glimpses of what makes Archie so effective in a few games this year. His offense is a thing of beauty when our guys are in sync and focused. Some of the plays designed during our winning streak were ones I never saw under Cox and I didn’t see under Dan either. Our defense doesn’t touch Dans but I think Archie’s offense is better personally. And I’m talking about the Hurley we had not the coach he’s become.

I was sick to my stomach watching the last two games. It sucks. But if you told me we were 3-2 after our first 5 games I’d tell you that’s a big improvement…

RIFan wrote: ↑3 months ago People keep pointing out that this is year 2 and we have young promising players, that’s all true, but at this point our roster is year to year. Do these young promising players look like they respect and want to play the way Archie wants them to? If this is how they play for Archie, does he want them here? Do they want to remain here?

If there is no more having to sit out a year for multiple transfers, then we have to assume each year is win now, because most likely the core will not remain intact. So excuse me if I cannot get excited for our future at this time. The crystal ball is broken.

RIFan wrote: ↑3 months ago People keep pointing out that this is year 2 and we have young promising players, that’s all true, but at this point our roster is year to year. Do these young promising players look like they respect and want to play the way Archie wants them to? If this is how they play for Archie, does he want them here? Do they want to remain here?

If there is no more having to sit out a year for multiple transfers, then we have to assume each year is win now, because most likely the core will not remain intact. So excuse me if I cannot get excited for our future at this time. The crystal ball is broken.

Rhodymob05 wrote: ↑3 months ago Not one player on the roster played Dayton last season. That trend needs to end right now.

rambone 78 wrote: ↑3 months ago I didnt say Archie is worse than Cox. He's not.

But the way we've played in stretches so far this season makes it seem like it.

Our bad is really bad. That's hard to take.

How long it takes to become consistently better is the issue.

It still seems like a long way off.

steveystuds06 wrote: ↑3 months ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑3 months ago I didnt say Archie is worse than Cox. He's not.

But the way we've played in stretches so far this season makes it seem like it.

Our bad is really bad. That's hard to take.

How long it takes to become consistently better is the issue.

It still seems like a long way off.

I agree that our bad under Archie has been like Jerry D. It's ugly. However, we looked like a tournament team against Umass. Since we had to deal with Cox, it feels like forever since we've been good but were not even done with Archie's second season. Remember when we used to lose a lot during Hass and EC's freshman season, but there were random moments where things clicked, and you could tell that we had the right coach? We won 5 A10 games that year. We got absolutely embarrassed by SMU and Zona that year, too. But like that season, I have seen some moments of beautiful basketball this year. I repeated myself like 10 times on here, saying that we should not freak out if we lose to Bonnies and Dayton. I know how we lost was very concerning, but if we come back and win on Wed, we can move forward and get back on track.

I expect to lose at George Mason but we need to beat Fordham, Lasalle, and Duquense at home. If we do that we are 6-3 in the A10. That's a great start.

steveystuds06 wrote: ↑3 months ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑3 months ago I didnt say Archie is worse than Cox. He's not.

But the way we've played in stretches so far this season makes it seem like it.

Our bad is really bad. That's hard to take.

How long it takes to become consistently better is the issue.

It still seems like a long way off.

I agree that our bad under Archie has been like Jerry D. It's ugly. However, we looked like a tournament team against Umass. Since we had to deal with Cox, it feels like forever since we've been good but were not even done with Archie's second season. Remember when we used to lose a lot during Hass and EC's freshman season, but there were random moments where things clicked, and you could tell that we had the right coach? We won 5 A10 games that year. We got absolutely embarrassed by SMU and Zona that year, too. But like that season, I have seen some moments of beautiful basketball this year. I repeated myself like 10 times on here, saying that we should not freak out if we lose to Bonnies and Dayton. I know how we lost was very concerning, but if we come back and win on Wed, we can move forward and get back on track.

I expect to lose at George Mason but we need to beat Fordham, Lasalle, and Duquense at home. If we do that we are 6-3 in the A10. That's a great start.

Jersey77 wrote: ↑3 months ago

steveystuds06 wrote: ↑3 months ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑3 months ago I didnt say Archie is worse than Cox. He's not.

But the way we've played in stretches so far this season makes it seem like it.

Our bad is really bad. That's hard to take.

How long it takes to become consistently better is the issue.

It still seems like a long way off.

I agree that our bad under Archie has been like Jerry D. It's ugly. However, we looked like a tournament team against Umass. Since we had to deal with Cox, it feels like forever since we've been good but were not even done with Archie's second season. Remember when we used to lose a lot during Hass and EC's freshman season, but there were random moments where things clicked, and you could tell that we had the right coach? We won 5 A10 games that year. We got absolutely embarrassed by SMU and Zona that year, too. But like that season, I have seen some moments of beautiful basketball this year. I repeated myself like 10 times on here, saying that we should not freak out if we lose to Bonnies and Dayton. I know how we lost was very concerning, but if we come back and win on Wed, we can move forward and get back on track.

I expect to lose at George Mason but we need to beat Fordham, Lasalle, and Duquense at home. If we do that we are 6-3 in the A10. That's a great start.

Going 3-1 is doable in the next 4 games.
And yes, I will take 6-3 for the 1st half of our conference schedule.

steveystuds06 wrote: ↑3 months ago

Jersey77 wrote: ↑3 months ago

steveystuds06 wrote: ↑3 months ago

I agree that our bad under Archie has been like Jerry D. It's ugly. However, we looked like a tournament team against Umass. Since we had to deal with Cox, it feels like forever since we've been good but were not even done with Archie's second season. Remember when we used to lose a lot during Hass and EC's freshman season, but there were random moments where things clicked, and you could tell that we had the right coach? We won 5 A10 games that year. We got absolutely embarrassed by SMU and Zona that year, too. But like that season, I have seen some moments of beautiful basketball this year. I repeated myself like 10 times on here, saying that we should not freak out if we lose to Bonnies and Dayton. I know how we lost was very concerning, but if we come back and win on Wed, we can move forward and get back on track.

I expect to lose at George Mason but we need to beat Fordham, Lasalle, and Duquense at home. If we do that we are 6-3 in the A10. That's a great start.

Going 3-1 is doable in the next 4 games.
And yes, I will take 6-3 for the 1st half of our conference schedule.

I think going 3-1 is critical... If we do that, I think we have a good shot at ending up around 10-8 in the conference, which would be a huge improvement compared to last year and our projected record this year. I think Lasalle will be our only other road win this year, but I hope I'm wrong.

Vs Fordham - W
@ G Mason - L
VS Lasalle - W
VS Duquesne - W
@ GW - L
@ Umass - L
VS Loyola - W
VS Richmond - L
@ Lasalle - W
@ VCU - L
VS St. Louis - W
VS G Mason - W
@ Fordham - L

theblueram wrote: ↑3 months ago

steveystuds06 wrote: ↑3 months ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑3 months ago I didnt say Archie is worse than Cox. He's not.

But the way we've played in stretches so far this season makes it seem like it.

Our bad is really bad. That's hard to take.

How long it takes to become consistently better is the issue.

It still seems like a long way off.

I agree that our bad under Archie has been like Jerry D. It's ugly. However, we looked like a tournament team against Umass. Since we had to deal with Cox, it feels like forever since we've been good but were not even done with Archie's second season. Remember when we used to lose a lot during Hass and EC's freshman season, but there were random moments where things clicked, and you could tell that we had the right coach? We won 5 A10 games that year. We got absolutely embarrassed by SMU and Zona that year, too. But like that season, I have seen some moments of beautiful basketball this year. I repeated myself like 10 times on here, saying that we should not freak out if we lose to Bonnies and Dayton. I know how we lost was very concerning, but if we come back and win on Wed, we can move forward and get back on track.

I expect to lose at George Mason but we need to beat Fordham, Lasalle, and Duquense at home. If we do that we are 6-3 in the A10. That's a great start.

So Stevey, hear me out. If we beat 192 FU, 217 LaSalle and 101 Duquesne along with our 82,86 and 131 wins prior, that's a great start? To what I ask.

theblueram wrote: ↑3 months ago

steveystuds06 wrote: ↑3 months ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑3 months ago I didnt say Archie is worse than Cox. He's not.

But the way we've played in stretches so far this season makes it seem like it.

Our bad is really bad. That's hard to take.

How long it takes to become consistently better is the issue.

It still seems like a long way off.

I agree that our bad under Archie has been like Jerry D. It's ugly. However, we looked like a tournament team against Umass. Since we had to deal with Cox, it feels like forever since we've been good but were not even done with Archie's second season. Remember when we used to lose a lot during Hass and EC's freshman season, but there were random moments where things clicked, and you could tell that we had the right coach? We won 5 A10 games that year. We got absolutely embarrassed by SMU and Zona that year, too. But like that season, I have seen some moments of beautiful basketball this year. I repeated myself like 10 times on here, saying that we should not freak out if we lose to Bonnies and Dayton. I know how we lost was very concerning, but if we come back and win on Wed, we can move forward and get back on track.

I expect to lose at George Mason but we need to beat Fordham, Lasalle, and Duquense at home. If we do that we are 6-3 in the A10. That's a great start.

So Stevey, hear me out. If we beat 192 FU, 217 LaSalle and 101 Duquesne along with our 82,86 and 131 wins prior, that's a great start? To what I ask.

RIFan wrote: ↑3 months ago I would say there is no legitimate reason to believe that not one core player will leave, thus core doesn’t remain in tact. I sadly look at the current situation as the glass is half empty, given the performance 1.5 years in and the new reality’s of the college game. This year has been very uneven but has had some highlights. But this team quits when they get down.

rambone 78 wrote: ↑3 months ago Guys who won't or can't learn Archie's system (i.e. the packline) will be gone next season.
.either on their own accord or shown the door.

I'm going to guess at least 4 will not be here next season.

Players who want to play defense and can make ft's need to apply lol.

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑3 months ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑3 months ago Guys who won't or can't learn Archie's system (i.e. the packline) will be gone next season.
.either on their own accord or shown the door.

I'm going to guess at least 4 will not be here next season.

Players who want to play defense and can make ft's need to apply lol.

This is the system...you "play defense" (run a ball-less 5 man weave) in the highlighted area.
Then one of our guys grabs the ball out of the net and throws it inbounds.

packy.JPG

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑3 months ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑3 months ago Guys who won't or can't learn Archie's system (i.e. the packline) will be gone next season.
.either on their own accord or shown the door.

I'm going to guess at least 4 will not be here next season.

Players who want to play defense and can make ft's need to apply lol.

This is the system...you "play defense" (run a ball-less 5 man weave) in the highlighted area.
Then one of our guys grabs the ball out of the net and throws it inbounds.

packy.JPG

section(105) wrote: ↑3 months ago

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑3 months ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑3 months ago Guys who won't or can't learn Archie's system (i.e. the packline) will be gone next season.
.either on their own accord or shown the door.

I'm going to guess at least 4 will not be here next season.

Players who want to play defense and can make ft's need to apply lol.

This is the system...you "play defense" (run a ball-less 5 man weave) in the highlighted area.
Then one of our guys grabs the ball out of the net and throws it inbounds.

packy.JPG

Good stuff from a guy that doesn’t like defense….

adam914 wrote: ↑3 months ago

RIFan wrote: ↑3 months ago I would say there is no legitimate reason to believe that not one core player will leave, thus core doesn’t remain in tact. I sadly look at the current situation as the glass is half empty, given the performance 1.5 years in and the new reality’s of the college game. This year has been very uneven but has had some highlights. But this team quits when they get down.

Maybe I misunderstood your original post then. By saying the core would not remain intact I thought you meant that most/all of them were likely to leave. If you just mean one core player then yeah that's different and obviously has a higher chance of happening then what I was thinking in terms of most/all. I think you could argue that these days losing one core player is keeping the core intact. The key then becomes who do you replace them with. As we saw after last season, losing players does not mean you automatically get worse.

RamStock wrote: ↑3 months ago

Obadiah wrote: ↑3 months ago I thought David Green would be that guy even though in my heart I don't believe one man can make that much of a difference.

Green actually has been very good and played more minutes than I thought he could handle. He certainly isn’t the problem and has played well for not having played competitive basketball in a long time. He was made to be the savior yet never accomplished anything at smaller schools. He is definitely a foundation piece for next year.

McRam wrote: ↑3 months ago

RamStock wrote: ↑3 months ago

Obadiah wrote: ↑3 months ago I thought David Green would be that guy even though in my heart I don't believe one man can make that much of a difference.

Green actually has been very good and played more minutes than I thought he could handle. He certainly isn’t the problem and has played well for not having played competitive basketball in a long time. He was made to be the savior yet never accomplished anything at smaller schools. He is definitely a foundation piece for next year.

Stock, Not sire I agree. How many shots did he get off against Dayton? Did you see a lot of movement on his part.

rambone 78 wrote: ↑3 months ago Billyboy, this reflects very poorly on Archie and the staff.

You never saw this with Dan. His players would run through a wall for him.

These players look like they would rather find some place to hide.

It's as bad as I've ever seen it here, and believe me, I've seen some bad shit over the years.

And we complained about Cox. This is worse. Thorr has to be concerned.

It's not like it's a player or two. It's most of them.

Blue Man wrote: ↑3 months ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑3 months ago Billyboy, this reflects very poorly on Archie and the staff.

You never saw this with Dan. His players would run through a wall for him.

These players look like they would rather find some place to hide.

It's as bad as I've ever seen it here, and believe me, I've seen some bad shit over the years.

And we complained about Cox. This is worse. Thorr has to be concerned.

It's not like it's a player or two. It's most of them.

We did see this with Dan. In fact I’m almost positive you wrote this same post in February of the first year we went to the tournament with Dan.

These are kids - 18-22 year old kids. They have bad games and are still developing. They literally did this some games this year, and other games snapped out of it and made huge comebacks.

For someone who’s been a fan of this program as long as you have, I’d expect better contextual analysis as someone who’s lived through the Jerry D era.

Nothing this year is worse than David Cox not knowing that the best player on his rival team was going to be out.

Man oh man, you’re acting like we had NCAA expectations this year and not “our second year of a brand new coach after a complete rebuild.”

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑3 months ago That's why the loss of Leggett was huge. Obviously he would have helped on the court. But I believe what hurts most is losing his leadership. He wouldn't play like this and as a leader, I think he would challenge his teammates to do the same.

McRam wrote: ↑3 months ago

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑3 months ago That's why the loss of Leggett was huge. Obviously he would have helped on the court. But I believe what hurts most is losing his leadership. He wouldn't play like this and as a leader, I think he would challenge his teammates to do the same.

Yes and don’t forget Malik Martin.

RamStock wrote: ↑3 months ago

McRam wrote: ↑3 months ago

RamStock wrote: ↑3 months ago

Green actually has been very good and played more minutes than I thought he could handle. He certainly isn’t the problem and has played well for not having played competitive basketball in a long time. He was made to be the savior yet never accomplished anything at smaller schools. He is definitely a foundation piece for next year.

Stock, Not sire I agree. How many shots did he get off against Dayton? Did you see a lot of movement on his part.

I hear what you are saying. I am putting it in a scope of what is a realistic expectation for this kid. He has missed a lot of time in his career and has not accomplished a lot at smaller schools. People on the board have labeled him as the savior and always saying if we had Green or Bilau or whoever were here it would be different. This isn’t the case. Constant excuses. I think Green has played such limited minutes in actual game time that he will continue to improve and he is a one of the guys we want back.