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Posted: **Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:29 am**

Shows career % for the 5 starters

House and Fuchs have over 300 attempts
Kortright over 200
Montgomery has the smallest sample size of attempts

Sorted hi to lo by career %:

House 221-341=64.8%
Montgomery 36-57=63.2%
Fuchs 183-303=60.4%
Kortright 118-201=58.7%
Brown 56-124=45.2%

Plenty of upside potential

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Posted: **Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:33 am**

ramster wrote: ↑6 months agoIMG_0820.png

This is going to be a problem in close games. We're missing free throws with 10, 15, 20 point leads. What happens when we're down two points with a minute left in a game and one of these guys is at the line? And this just isn't a case of small sample sizes. Some of our key guys are barely average at the free throw line while others are just bad.

Posted: **Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:41 am**

This is why I said no way do the practice FT %s transfer over like someone thought.

Every player was over 80%.

Posted: **Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:42 am**

Add in Foumena who is only shooting FT at 33% (5-15) and who is someone who will most properly get a lot of free throw attempts. FTs will be a problem in tight games. Hope they can improve. Maybe 72 can show them the proper FT shooting techniques!

Posted: **Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:57 pm**

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑6 months ago
ramster wrote: ↑6 months agoIMG_0820.png
This is going to be a problem in close games. We're missing free throws with 10, 15, 20 point leads. What happens when we're down two points with a minute left in a game and one of these guys is at the line? And this just isn't a case of small sample sizes. Some of our key guys are barely average at the free throw line while others are just bad.

I'm going to say, when it comes to FTs, those listed in ramster's post make up a small "basket of terribles" when it comes to FTs. Those numbers are all turrble.

Posted: **Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:12 pm**

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑6 months ago
ramster wrote: ↑6 months agoIMG_0820.png
This is going to be a problem in close games. We're missing free throws with 10, 15, 20 point leads. What happens when we're down two points with a minute left in a game and one of these guys is at the line? And this just isn't a case of small sample sizes. Some of our key guys are barely average at the free throw line while others are just bad.

78, I don’t think my nerves are strong enough yet this season to handle blown free throws in close games. I better start mentally preparing!

Posted: **Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:19 pm**

ramster wrote: ↑6 months ago Shows career % for the 5 starters

House and Fuchs have over 300 attempts
Kortright over 200
Montgomery has the smallest sample size of attempts

Sorted hi to lo by career %:

House 221-341=64.8%
Montgomery 36-57=63.2%
Fuchs 183-303=60.4%
Kortright 118-201=58.7%
Brown 56-124=45.2%

Plenty of upside potential

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Wow Jaden and Zek I’m very surprised about , no reason they should be in the 60s we need them in the 70s

Posted: **Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:24 pm**

It obviously isn't great that they're missing so many free throws, but it's a problem you live with if the rest of the offensive is improved, as it is through three games so far. I doubt everyone is going to be shooting 75+ percent, but its an issue you can identify, work on or scheme away from. I think its way tougher to have the issue of last year's squad, which was players incapable of hitting open shots or creating their own shot.

Last year, they averaged 21 FTA a game as the season wore on. This year, they're at 26 FTA per game. This will probably fall as teams get more tape on us, and as the opponents get better. (Last year's team shot a ton of FT through three games too.) But it wouldn't surprise me if its still higher than last year, since players like House, Montgomery and the big men are more threatening on offense than last year's roster, and will draw more fouls.

Posted: **Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:14 pm**

SGreenwell wrote: ↑6 months ago It obviously isn't great that they're missing so many free throws, but it's a problem you live with if the rest of the offensive is improved, as it is through three games so far. I doubt everyone is going to be shooting 75+ percent, but its an issue you can identify, work on or scheme away from. I think its way tougher to have the issue of last year's squad, which was players incapable of hitting open shots or creating their own shot.

Last year, they averaged 21 FTA a game as the season wore on. This year, they're at 26 FTA per game. This will probably fall as teams get more tape on us, and as the opponents get better. (Last year's team shot a ton of FT through three games too.) But it wouldn't surprise me if its still higher than last year, since players like House, Montgomery and the big men are more threatening on offense than last year's roster, and will draw more fouls.

Good deeper dive into the FT’s issue when compared to last season. Hopefully, the improved O and scheming keep us out of critical FT attempts in games more often than not.

Unfortunately, it doesn’t give me the warm and fuzzies yet. That said, I think the two upcoming games will tell us a lot.

Good stuff.

Posted: **Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:08 pm**

The never-ending, infuriating free throws issue. All the hoops these guys have played you'd think they could make 7-10 consistently. As mentioned above, it is DEFINITELY going to matter in closer games...

Posted: **Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:12 pm**

Looking at those career stats, I don't think it will improve. It will be an issue in close games, but at this point it is what it is.

Posted: **Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:18 pm**

It’s odd how this stuff doesn’t translate to games. Pressure just really affects some more than others

When the new practice facility opened there was a picture posted of daily FT attempts by player tracking their makes. The lowest % of 300 attempts was 80%. Most guys were high 80s-low 90s

Posted: **Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:37 pm**

May need to bring in a FT therapist from the Rhody Psych Dept or bring in a hypnotist.

Any hypnotists on the board ?

We need a FT whisperer.

Posted: **Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:06 pm**

Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑6 months ago May need to bring in a FT therapist from the Rhody Psych Dept or bring in a hypnotist.

Any hypnotists on the board ?

We need a FT whisperer.

Frank Santos? Wherefore art thou?

Actually he may have passed, I think his son has taken over. Saw Sr. in Edwards in like Fall 1989, so funny.

Posted: **Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:33 pm**

No reason for Jaden Zek and Luis to be under 75 %

Posted: **Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:03 am**

Shows career % for 3P for the 5 starters

House with over 200 career attempts
Kortright, Montgomery, Fuchs with over 100 attempts
Montgomery the best at 40.7&

Sorted hi to lo by career %:

Montgomery 48-118=40.7%

Kortright 58-187=31.0%

House 83-276=30.1%

Fuchs 34-128=26.2%%

Brown 0-0=0%

Plenty of upside potential. Some perspective Malik Martin Career 118-375 = 31.5%

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Team Performance vs Opponents 3P%:
2023-2024 - 3 games
URI 16-43 = 37.2%
Opponents 28-85 = 32.9%

2022-2023 - Full Season
URI 168-553 = 30.4%
Opponents 28-85 = 32.1%

Posted: **Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:41 am**

RI_Bred wrote: ↑6 months ago
Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑6 months ago May need to bring in a FT therapist from the Rhody Psych Dept or bring in a hypnotist.

Any hypnotists on the board ?

We need a FT whisperer.
Frank Santos? Wherefore art thou?

Actually he may have passed, I think his son has taken over. Saw Sr. in Edwards in like Fall 1989, so funny.

Was he the X-rated hypnotist? If that's the guy, yes, he was hilarious.

Posted: **Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:16 pm**

ramster wrote: ↑6 months ago Shows career % for 3P for the 5 starters

House with over 200 career attempts
Kortright, Montgomery, Fuchs with over 100 attempts
Montgomery the best at 40.7&

Sorted hi to lo by career %:
Montgomery 48-118=40.7%

Kortright 58-187=31.0%

House 83-276=30.1%

Fuchs 34-128=26.2%%

Brown 0-0=0%
Plenty of upside potential. Some perspective Malik Martin Career 118-375 = 31.5%

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Team Performance vs Opponents 3P%:
2023-2024 - 3 games
URI 16-43 = 37.2%
Opponents 28-85 = 32.9%

2022-2023 - Full Season
URI 168-553 = 30.4%
Opponents 28-85 = 32.1%

Let’s get Jaden to @ least 35 % this year

Posted: **Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:33 pm**

Ramster, very interesting, but please review full season opponents numbers.

Posted: **Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:50 pm**

RJRam wrote: ↑6 months ago Ramster, very interesting, but please review full season opponents numbers.

What do you mean? Full season opponent numbers? Like for each team? I already posted the opponents 3P%

Posted: **Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:49 pm**

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑6 months ago
RI_Bred wrote: ↑6 months ago
Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑6 months ago May need to bring in a FT therapist from the Rhody Psych Dept or bring in a hypnotist.

Any hypnotists on the board ?

We need a FT whisperer.
Frank Santos? Wherefore art thou?

Actually he may have passed, I think his son has taken over. Saw Sr. in Edwards in like Fall 1989, so funny.
Was he the X-rated hypnotist? If that's the guy, yes, he was hilarious.

Yes! I think he labeled himself as "R" rated, but it was definitely hilarious!

Posted: **Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:14 am**

Average stats like this tell a story, but only part of story and you have to go well beyond the numbers to get real meaning. For example what is your 3point performance in critical junctures in any game, what is the performance versus good teams as opposed to cupcakes, etc. Does your 3 point shooting have any correlation to your energy level in any given game. If your 3 point touch disappears in a game, doesn't it make sense to stop chucking up three point attempts. The data points of three games is not much, but a deeper analysis beyond just looking at average stats shows the current MBB team is not great no matter their national rating. But if the MBB team is so-so, the women's team is worse as their recent performance in Orono (1 for 22) showed, but in that case it wasn't the bad shooting but the bad attitude and energy level that did the Lady Rams in.

Posted: **Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:17 pm**

Obadiah wrote: ↑6 months ago Average stats like this tell a story, but only part of story and you have to go well beyond the numbers to get real meaning. For example what is your 3point performance in critical junctures in any game, what is the performance versus good teams as opposed to cupcakes, etc. Does your 3 point shooting have any correlation to your energy level in any given game. If your 3 point touch disappears in a game, doesn't it make sense to stop chucking up three point attempts. The data points of three games is not much, but a deeper analysis beyond just looking at average stats shows the current MBB team is not great no matter their national rating. But if the MBB team is so-so, the women's team is worse as their recent performance in Orono (1 for 22) showed, but in that case it wasn't the bad shooting but the bad attitude and energy level that did the Lady Rams in.

Stats are great but still need to put the thinking cap on. Good post, Ob!

Posted: **Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:20 pm**

Archie keeps brining up Ft’s and I trust they are working on it

At some point do we get to the point of no return or can this be corrected ?

Game after game we aren’t getting it done

It hasn’t cost us a game yet but it’s just a matter of time

Posted: **Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:40 pm**

ElmCityRhody wrote: ↑6 months ago Archie keeps brining up Ft’s and I trust they are working on it

At some point do we get to the point of no return or can this be corrected ?

Game after game we aren’t getting it done

It hasn’t cost us a game yet but it’s just a matter of time

If I were a betting person, I'd bet it will be a point of no return rollercoaster ride, which would be better than flatlining at 60%?

Posted: **Mon Nov 27, 2023 8:09 pm**

Per Sports Reference, we're 343rd right now. I'm not sure how many teams they rank, but its near the bottom. There are about 360 D-I hoops programs.

Posted: **Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:11 pm**

SGreenwell wrote: ↑6 months ago Per Sports Reference, we're 343rd right now. I'm not sure how many teams they rank, but its near the bottom. There are about 360 D-I hoops programs.

Yes and that’s a big big problem

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:35 pm**

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Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:38 pm**

ATPTourFan wrote: ↑6 months ago Screen Shot 2023-12-03 at 6.33.56 PM.png

This is just unacceptable. Thanks for posting ATP.

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:25 pm**

ATPTourFan wrote: ↑6 months ago Screen Shot 2023-12-03 at 6.33.56 PM.png

Thanks for posting this, ATP.

Now that we have a practice facility, our foul shooting percentage stinks. Go figure.

Our 3 point percentage has been a bright spot so far this season - though, we don’t fire up a lot of 3’s per game - as has our overall field goal percentage.

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 8:00 pm**

It's possible to be a winning team and a poor FT shooting team at the same time. (Conversely, good FT shooting teams can also stink.) No need to harp on this. Teams just have to be better in other areas of the game to offset.

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 8:08 pm**

PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑6 months ago It's possible to be a winning team and a poor FT shooting team at the same time. (Conversely, good FT shooting teams can also stink.) No need to harp on this. Teams just have to be better in other areas of the game to offset.

Agreed continuous harping on this is not gonna change the %. But this poor % needs serious attention by the coaching staff.

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 8:12 pm**

Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑6 months ago
ATPTourFan wrote: ↑6 months ago Screen Shot 2023-12-03 at 6.33.56 PM.png
Thanks for posting this, ATP.

Now that we have a practice facility, our foul shooting percentage stinks. Go figure.

Our 3 point percentage has been a bright spot so far this season - though, we don’t fire up a lot of 3’s per game - as has our overall field goal percentage.

Wasn't it the consensus before the year started that there was a big improvement on the three, but not the FT...and that hopefully, the FT % would work itself out?

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:30 pm**

ATPTourFan wrote: ↑6 months ago Screen Shot 2023-12-03 at 6.33.56 PM.png

357 of 362 God dammit hit your FTS !

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:49 pm**

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑6 months ago
Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑6 months ago
ATPTourFan wrote: ↑6 months ago Screen Shot 2023-12-03 at 6.33.56 PM.png
Thanks for posting this, ATP.

Now that we have a practice facility, our foul shooting percentage stinks. Go figure.

Our 3 point percentage has been a bright spot so far this season - though, we don’t fire up a lot of 3’s per game - as has our overall field goal percentage.
Wasn't it the consensus before the year started that there was a big improvement on the three, but not the FT...and that hopefully, the FT % would work itself out?

Yeah. The missed FTs are annoying, but as PMMM points out, you can still be a decent offense even if you're missing a bunch. So far this year, KenPom has our adjusted offense as 137th overall, and Sports Reference has our offensive rating at 94th. Last year, we were at 316 and 342. We shot 39 percent from the floor last year, and we're at 48 percent this year. (Some of it is our weak strength of schedule, but most of our players this year vs. last year are better offensively, with pretty much nothing given up on defense in the swap.)

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:49 pm**

ATPTourFan wrote: ↑6 months ago Screen Shot 2023-12-03 at 6.33.56 PM.png

Hey at least we aren't Army!

49.5% christ!

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:50 pm**

SGreenwell wrote: ↑6 months ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑6 months ago
Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑6 months ago

Thanks for posting this, ATP.

Now that we have a practice facility, our foul shooting percentage stinks. Go figure.

Our 3 point percentage has been a bright spot so far this season - though, we don’t fire up a lot of 3’s per game - as has our overall field goal percentage.
Wasn't it the consensus before the year started that there was a big improvement on the three, but not the FT...and that hopefully, the FT % would work itself out?
Yeah. The missed FTs are annoying, but as PMMM points out, you can still be a decent offense even if you're missing a bunch. So far this year, KenPom has our adjusted offense as 137th overall, and Sports Reference has our offensive rating at 94th. Last year, we were at 316 and 342. We shot 39 percent from the floor last year, and we're at 48 percent this year. (Some of it is our weak strength of schedule, but most of our players this year vs. last year are better offensively, with pretty much nothing given up on defense in the swap.)

And we had the best free throw shooting team in about 50 years...

Posted: **Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:59 pm**

Really good viz on how we don’t shoot 3s lol

Posted: **Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:03 pm**

And another, showing that we should really shoot more 3s:

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:10 pm**

reef wrote: ↑6 months ago
ATPTourFan wrote: ↑6 months ago Screen Shot 2023-12-03 at 6.33.56 PM.png
357 of 362 God dammit hit your FTS !

After 10 games there is not a single Ram (with 10 or more attempts) making even 2/3 of them.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:36 pm**

URI's team FT shooting percentage of .5805 is ranked at #349. Only Siena and Army are worse from the line.

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-m ... t/team/150

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:41 pm**

RF1 wrote: ↑5 months ago URI's team FT shooting percentage of .5805 is ranked at #349. Only Siena and Army are worse from the line.

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-m ... t/team/150

And some people here actually thought their FT % in practice would transfer over/be similar.

Every single player was 80% or over in practice.

Not a chance in hell that was going to be the case.

...although I did not think we would be third to last in America.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:49 pm**

Leggett is shoot 90% from FT line

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:29 pm**

RF1 wrote: ↑5 months ago URI's team FT shooting percentage of .5805 is ranked at #349. Only Siena and Army are worse from the line.

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-m ... t/team/150

emBARONsing

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:37 pm**

That is another reason to play Cam. Good free throw shooter.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:53 pm**

RF1 wrote: ↑5 months ago URI's team FT shooting percentage of .5805 is ranked at #349. Only Siena and Army are worse from the line.

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-m ... t/team/150

There are 363 D1 teams why are only 351 listed ??

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:00 pm**

Hire a psychologist like Dan did with Justin Sua. At least some of the failure has to be mental.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:35 pm**

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑5 months ago Hire a psychologist like Dan did with Justin Sua. At least some of the failure has to be mental.

I feel like most of the time it's mental. If you can nail FTs at practice at 70-80%, why not during the games?

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:40 pm**

reef wrote: ↑5 months ago
RF1 wrote: ↑5 months ago URI's team FT shooting percentage of .5805 is ranked at #349. Only Siena and Army are worse from the line.

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-m ... t/team/150
There are 363 D1 teams why are only 351 listed ??

Team rankings.com has us 360 of 362

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:24 pm**

steveystuds06 wrote: ↑5 months ago That is another reason to play Cam. Good free throw shooter.

And another reason to play Wright

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