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Posted: **Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:21 pm**

This one is going to need a write up.

Tammi's team visits Maine in Orono Tuesday. Maine's first three non conference opponents were all mutual ones that Rhody will also see this season. Results:

11/6 Quinnipiac in Hamden, CT, ..... L 57-70
11/9 LaSalle in Philadelphia, PA, ..... W 58-48
11/12 Massachusetts in Orono, ME, ..... W 69-48

Maine is showing a progression from game to game. This past game vs UMass, their starting five made up the bulk of their scoring:

#3 Anne Simon G, 34 mins, 11-19 FG, 4-6 3P, 1-1 FT, 9 Reb, 5 Ast, 2 TO, 2 STL, ............... 27 pts
#12 Sarah Talon G, 23 mins, 5-9 FG, 0-2 3P, 0-0 FT, 2 Reb, 2 Ast, 1 TO, 1 STL, ................. 10 pts
#13 Caroline Bornemann G/F, 31 mins, 4-7 FG, 2-4 3P, 0-0 FT, 6 Reb, 3 Ast, 1 TO, 1 STL,..... 10 pts
#1 Olivia Rockwood G, 25 mins, 25 mins, 3-8 FG, 2-5 3P, 0-0 FT, 1 Reb, 1 Ast, 0 TO, 2 STL,... 8 pts
#33 Adrianna Smith F, 31 mins, 31 mins, 3-9 FG, 4-6 3P, 1-1 FT, 11 Reb, 5 Ast, 4 TO, 0 STL,... 7 pts

A rather small lineup, heights ranging from listed 5'7" Rockwood to 6'0" Smith.

Interestingly, all 5 players that make of the bulk of their scoring and minutes are all huddled to the right of their team photo:

They only attempted 4 FTs the entire game, so UMass was not heavily penalized on the road.

First test for Rhody.

Posted: **Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:29 pm**

Needless to say. URI is going to want to continue to exert their will over their opponent, using their advantages in height, size, speed, numbers. Two amazingly talented frontcourt players. A slew of good guards, tenacious defense, two 3 pt specialists in Phillips and DeChent. Not to mention improved shooting all around.

And of course, limit Maine's #3 Simon as much as possible, who is something of a phenom for them.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:46 am**

Massey Ratings gives the #80 Rams an 81% chance of beating #145 Maine, with a predicted final of 65-55

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:49 am**

jcru wrote: ↑6 months ago Needless to say. URI is going to want to continue to exert their will over their opponent, using their advantages in height, size, speed, numbers. Two amazingly talented frontcourt players. A slew of good guards, tenacious defense, two 3 pt specialists in Phillips and DeChent. Not to mention improved shooting all around.

And of course, limit Maine's #3 Simon as much as possible, who is something of a phenom for them.

Anne Simon missed last year's game with us, but in two other games against us has averaged 17 points and 5 rebounds.

We lead the all-time series now 14-13 after winning the last two games against them

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:53 pm**

Looks like St Louis showed up instead and punked them.

Oh well, there's always the autobid.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:57 pm**

Ouch
Not a good evening for Rhody WBB to say the least.
Losing by double-digits to Maine and only scoring 48 points.
We shot a terrible 28.6% FG, 1-22 3PT, only had 8 assists, and with our size advantage got outrebounded.
Didn't look like we showed up for our 1st road game, can't afford this type of loss if we want an NCAAT bid.

Posted: **Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:06 pm**

Maine continues to improve and is well coached by Amy Vachon. Also the Pit is one of the tougher places to play. I actually was not surprised with the outcome.

Posted: **Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:11 am**

Maine is legit and I give them credit, they’ve dismantled 3 A10 teams in a row so their performance not an accident. Ours I don’t know we were not there mentally.

First two games too easy for them maybe. Seemed to play scared and confused from opening tip. Again I’ll tip hat to the opponent for part of that. This team seems to get flying from their offense not their defense. Maybe tightened up when shots weren’t falling. Defensively all of our guards, without exception, were losing their player completely on cuts. Not a step behind but not knowing where they even went. Weird.

But all fixable stuff. If you’re going to have a bad one better to get it out of the way early. They’re a very good team I’m not worried.

Posted: **Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:24 pm**

Team hasn't shot well from 3 to start the year. If only we had a great shooter last year that we didn't give enough minutes to and she transferred.......

Posted: **Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:06 pm**

Georgejenkins wrote: ↑6 months ago Team hasn't shot well from 3 to start the year. If only we had a great shooter last year that we didn't give enough minutes to and she transferred.......

If you're referring to Dolly Cairns, she's currently shooting 27 percent from 3 for Florida Gulf Coast. Maybe she'll bounce back, but its not like she's lighting the world on fire there.

Posted: **Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:34 pm**

Holy shit I guess I'm glad I haven't re-upped ESPN+ yet. I'm shocked we lost and even more shocked we only scored 48 points. Tammi must be pissssssed.

Posted: **Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:38 pm**

Woooahh how did I miss this debacle last night? Yikes

Posted: **Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:25 am**

Yeah, so, forget what you heard about how URI was going to skate through the A-10 Conference. It's going to be a dog fight amongst the top 4 teams or so, just like last year. Only difference being, UMass won't be one of those teams this time around.

Granted, Maine is a good team with starters that are seniors and post grads, who probably feel like this is "their time", "their year". But the truth is, URI played tentatively and flat out scared, like they often do against a team like St. Louis that has an alpha like Martinez hounding them. For Maine, that was Simon.

They had DeBroise as full time, starting PG. I'm not sure that was the greatest idea. At least twice she lost the ball for traveling at key moments, it was obvious, and she was acting like she couldn't understand why she got called. When Magassa isn't doing well, her body language tells the story. She shrugs her shoulders after each bad play and stares at the ground. Phillips couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with her outside shot. That has happened before in big games that we lost. DeChent made one three point attempt and took too long to stroke it, and got her shot swatted out of the sky the instant it left her hand.

So, it was a good test. They just didn't pass the test. But they had to play a good team sometime, and this was the first of many. and they seemed out of sorts and intimidated. So, a lot of material for Tammi to work on.

Princeton has an alpha in that center, #00.
St Louis has an alpha in Martinez who can run hot and cold but always seams to have her best games vs us.
I don't know what St Joe's squad looks like this year, but last year they had an alpha on their team

They have to learn to play the same gameplan, no matter who it is they are playing, and they aren't there yet.

Posted: **Fri Nov 17, 2023 8:20 am**

Georgejenkins wrote: ↑6 months ago Team hasn't shot well from 3 to start the year. If only we had a great shooter last year that we didn't give enough minutes to and she transferred.......

Dolly Cairns was 36% and Emmi Rinat was 34% with SP's last year. Dolly transferred to Florida Gulf State picked preseason to win the Atlantic Sun while Emmi transferred to Toledo picked preseason to win the MAC. Dolly and Emmi could both experience NCAA Tournament.

Hattix-Covington and Lassiter were both 34% 3P shooters last season who were Grad players.

URI as a team shot 3P's at 34.6% while holding opponents to 26.3%

Thru 3 games URI is shooting 3P's at only 10-60 for 16.7%

Team seemed lost and not confident at all shooting from distance vs Maine

Posted: **Fri Nov 17, 2023 8:41 am**

jcru wrote: ↑6 months ago Yeah, so, forget what you heard about how URI was going to skate through the A-10 Conference. It's going to be a dog fight amongst the top 4 teams or so, just like last year. Only difference being, UMass won't be one of those teams this time around.

Granted, Maine is a good team with starters that are seniors and post grads, who probably feel like this is "their time", "their year". But the truth is, URI played tentatively and flat out scared, like they often do against a team like St. Louis that has an alpha like Martinez hounding them. For Maine, that was Simon.

They had DeBroise as full time, starting PG. I'm not sure that was the greatest idea. At least twice she lost the ball for traveling at key moments, it was obvious, and she was acting like she couldn't understand why she got called. When Magassa isn't doing well, her body language tells the story. She shrugs her shoulders after each bad play and stares at the ground. Phillips couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with her outside shot. That has happened before in big games that we lost. DeChent made one three point attempt and took too long to stroke it, and got her shot swatted out of the sky the instant it left her hand.

So, it was a good test. They just didn't pass the test. But they had to play a good team sometime, and this was the first of many. and they seemed out of sorts and intimidated. So, a lot of material for Tammi to work on.

Princeton has an alpha in that center, #00.
St Louis has an alpha in Martinez who can run hot and cold but always seams to have her best games vs us.
I don't know what St Joe's squad looks like this year, but last year they had an alpha on their team

They have to learn to play the same gameplan, no matter who it is they are playing, and they aren't there yet.

St. Joe's is a team we should be very concerned about.
They were picked 2nd in the A10 and are currently 3-0.
They also had 3 pre-season all conference selections:
(F) Brugler- Averaging 13 pts.
(F) Ziegler - Averaging 15 pts/ 12 rebs.
(G) Smith- Averaging 13 pts/ 6 rebs
(G) Welch - Davidson grad transfer averaging 15 pts/ 6 rebs.

As a team they are also shooting 40.5% 3PT.

Posted: **Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:06 pm**

SGreenwell wrote: ↑6 months ago
Georgejenkins wrote: ↑6 months ago Team hasn't shot well from 3 to start the year. If only we had a great shooter last year that we didn't give enough minutes to and she transferred.......
If you're referring to Dolly Cairns, she's currently shooting 27 percent from 3 for Florida Gulf Coast. Maybe she'll bounce back, but its not like she's lighting the world on fire there.

True, but our supposed best shooter is 4-24 for 17%. She needs to bounce back even more than Dolly.

Posted: **Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:20 am**

SGreenwell wrote: ↑6 months ago
Georgejenkins wrote: ↑6 months ago Team hasn't shot well from 3 to start the year. If only we had a great shooter last year that we didn't give enough minutes to and she transferred.......
If you're referring to Dolly Cairns, she's currently shooting 27 percent from 3 for Florida Gulf Coast. Maybe she'll bounce back, but its not like she's lighting the world on fire there.

Playing damn well, check the box scores. Even if she isn’t shooting lights out, rhody needs someone to space the floor. Phillips is the only player that can space the floor well.

Posted: **Tue Nov 21, 2023 10:00 am**

Georgejenkins wrote: ↑6 months ago
SGreenwell wrote: ↑6 months ago
Georgejenkins wrote: ↑6 months ago Team hasn't shot well from 3 to start the year. If only we had a great shooter last year that we didn't give enough minutes to and she transferred.......
If you're referring to Dolly Cairns, she's currently shooting 27 percent from 3 for Florida Gulf Coast. Maybe she'll bounce back, but its not like she's lighting the world on fire there.
Playing damn well, check the box scores. Even if she isn’t shooting lights out, rhody needs someone to space the floor. Phillips is the only player that can space the floor well.

She's shooting worse since you posted five days ago, down to 26 percent. Her per-40 stats show improved assists, worse turnovers. I suspect that by the end of the year, her shooting stats and percentages will be fine, but that's because she'll be playing against Atlantic Sun teams.

Posted: **Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:53 pm**

SGreenwell wrote: ↑6 months ago
Georgejenkins wrote: ↑6 months ago
SGreenwell wrote: ↑6 months ago

If you're referring to Dolly Cairns, she's currently shooting 27 percent from 3 for Florida Gulf Coast. Maybe she'll bounce back, but its not like she's lighting the world on fire there.
Playing damn well, check the box scores. Even if she isn’t shooting lights out, rhody needs someone to space the floor. Phillips is the only player that can space the floor well.
She's shooting worse since you posted five days ago, down to 26 percent. Her per-40 stats show improved assists, worse turnovers. I suspect that by the end of the year, her shooting stats and percentages will be fine, but that's because she'll be playing against Atlantic Sun teams.

GeorgeJenkins is right in that 2 of URI's better 3P Shooters transferred.
Last season:
Philips 77-189=40.7% Returned to URI
Cairns 41-114=36% Transferred to Florida Gulf Coast
Rinat 31-91=34.1% Tranferred to Toledo
Hattix-Covington 36-107=33.6% Graduated
Lassiter 36-107 = 33.6% Graduated
Debroise 14-48 = 29.2%

This season to date:
DeChent 3-7 42.9% Freshman has played only 19 minutes total
Vital 1-3 = 33% Freshman PG has played 54 minutes
Phillips 10-39 = 25.6% SG
Toure 2-9 = 22.2% F
Debroise 1-10 = 10% PG
Hyman 1-15 = 6.7% Grad G transfer from Syracuse
Davis 0-8 = 0% Grad PG transfer from Manhattan

Losing Cairns and Rinat took away veteran, proven 3P shooters and scorers. Cairns had 19 points last game in a win hosting P5 Kentucky. She can score and is a great FT Shooter. Tammi went with a couple of Grad Transfers (as she does every year) with Davis and Hyman but they are a combined 1-23 on 3P's. That is a problem when 2 of your 3 starting guards are 1-23. The 3rd guard has dropped from 40.7% last year to 25.6% this year to date.

This puts additional pressure on Sophie Phillips as defenses can and will even more put a good defensive player in Phillips and possibly double team her at times giving Davis and Hyman the 3P opportunity.

Promising Freshman Eva DeChent may get more playing time if 3P shooting from everyone not named Sophie Phillips fails to improve.
Freshman Katie Leddon could also be a 3P option if the need arises.

Teams will collapse the defense and give the open 3P and keep the ball away from Toure, Magassa and Dutat. Most A10 WBB HC's are very smart and experienced. Tammi knows this of course. She will find a way.

Good opportunity to play Youngstown State and Portland in Las Vegas and work out problems. Hopefully the outside shooting will improve prior to A10 play.

Posted: **Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:45 pm**

SGreenwell wrote: ↑6 months ago
Georgejenkins wrote: ↑6 months ago
SGreenwell wrote: ↑6 months ago

If you're referring to Dolly Cairns, she's currently shooting 27 percent from 3 for Florida Gulf Coast. Maybe she'll bounce back, but its not like she's lighting the world on fire there.
Playing damn well, check the box scores. Even if she isn’t shooting lights out, rhody needs someone to space the floor. Phillips is the only player that can space the floor well.
She's shooting worse since you posted five days ago, down to 26 percent. Her per-40 stats show improved assists, worse turnovers. I suspect that by the end of the year, her shooting stats and percentages will be fine, but that's because she'll be playing against Atlantic Sun teams.

10-19 last 2 games vs 2 rankes teams….

Posted: **Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:23 pm**

Was 10 for 19 last 2 games and also made the all tournament team in one of the most competitive Thanksgiving tournaments in the country with 3 rank teams. (But couldn’t get off the bench against St.Louis in Atlantic 10 tournament last year when game was on the line)

Posted: **Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:24 am**

Gulf Coast Showcase All-Tournament Team:
Ayoka Lee (Kansas State)
Serena Sundell (Kansas State)
Molly Davis (Iowa)
Dolly Cairns (FGCU)
MVP: Caitlin Clark

Posted: **Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:04 am**

FGSU upset #18 Ranked North Carolina to take 3rd place in the Florida Gulf Coast Showcase
Dolly led FGSU to the upset win

Posted: **Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:05 am**

guys, you want to go down that rabbit hole, fine.

But you can't hint or make a suggestion of something, and then not close the deal.

If everything is great on paper. Player is great, wasn't having some sort of slump which lead to lower amt of playing time, and there is no other explanation for the player leaving, ie. NIL money, in an era of NIL money being a reason for players leaving...

...then you are hinting at something more personal, between player and coach, some sort of irreconcilable differences.

So, is that what you are suggesting here? Because if not, just hand wringing about a good player leaving for what is a slightly better tier team is a bit annoying. Pick a lane...

Meanwhile, no matter what the case was here last season, this team is moving forward. 5 and 2. The one set back at Maine, which looks less and less harmful as Maine looks like they could be a tourney team this year. A great showing against a powerful NC State team, that is not only going to the tournament, but just clobbered #3 Colorado and is undefeated, and URI not only lead for three quarters against them on the road, but lost by the least amt of points in any game they played, including UConn.

If URI had beaten Maine, they would be nationally ranked right now. And not just top-25, but possibly top-20. I have no doubt if they keep up their schedule as they have been, they will get recognized at some point.

And everyone here wished Dolly the absolute best when she left. There was not one slight against her in this comments section. So, the hand wringing would seen a bit... awkward at this point. Unless you want to stop beating around the bush and make some sort of substantial statement? Let's hear it.

Posted: **Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:32 am**

Seriously. "Trousers_2" joined 8 months ago, and every single one of 10 posts is about Dolly Cairns...

search.php?author_id=2896&sr=posts

It sounds like you have something you really want to get off your chest here. So my suggestion would be, say it. Get it over with, just blurt it out. Let's hear it. Once and for all.

You don't like Tammi. You don't like Sophie. Dolly was treated unfairly. There was some sort of skulk and dagger involved in the process. Let's hear what it is, whatever it is, before this season goes any further.

Posted: **Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:45 am**

Correct every post is about Dolly you right don’t think she was treated fairly . Watch every game last year and thought her and Sophie should have been on the court at same time at certain points. ( stretch the defense)As far as Tammi goes think she’s a great person, turned the program around but made wrong decisions when it came to Dolly. ( Your best foul shooter has to be in any close game with ball in her hands ) example: Freshman year atl 10 tournament went to foul line down 2 hit both foul shot put into overtime. What people didn’t no about Dolly she’s a winner and not afraid to have the ball in her hands in the big moment. Coach her in little league when she was 10 and she was the same way then. A winner

Posted: **Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:17 am**

So, there is no story then. You are just upset because she is no longer on the team and you think she was treated unfairly when she was on the team.

You know, Dolly, I didn't know her obviously like you did, I don't know her at all except what I observed as a fan, is a great player. But I do not think she was more important to this team than, say, Toure and Magassa, and you don't see them complaining about their playing time, and they get yanked and sat down all the time.

That's the game these days. Dolly went to a program where she can be a rock star, instead of a glue player here. More power to her. She had to leave little Rhode Island to do that, and went to the place where Rhode Islanders go to vacation and retire. It's not like she went to some no man's land in West Bum- f--k, America. She's going to be alright.

I don't see a story here then. And you're entitled to your opinion, of course.

Posted: **Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:50 am**

That right just opinion. Everybody has one sometimes good, sometimes not . Wish nothing but the best for the rhody program.

Posted: **Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:06 pm**

"Coach her in little league when she was 10 and she was the same way then. A winner"

You're a proud parent. Good for you. I liked Dolly too, but I think Tammi might know a tiny bit more about basketball than a little league coach.

Posted: **Wed Nov 29, 2023 4:00 pm**

Maybe , Maybe not.

Posted: **Wed Nov 29, 2023 4:03 pm**

That’s a joke

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