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NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 month ago FAU is still in, even with a loss tonight, right?
Projected to be.
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Someone here told me I was crazy when I said they didn’t deserve the Top 10-15 billing they got early in season. They were media darlings, deservedly so, but it’s very hard for any non power school to repeat the kind of success. Fwiw PCs resume is much better than theirs. Much better.
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rambone 78 wrote: 1 month ago Purdue will not make the FF imo.

My prediction for the natty is either UConn or Houston.

Everybody else is too inconsistent.
Purdue hasn’t won a tourney game since ‘97 in Memphis, have they?

I know they lost in the first round last year.
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Purdue seems to underachieve all the time but Painter has taken them to the sweet 16. 5 times
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bigappleram wrote: 1 month ago Someone here told me I was crazy when I said they didn’t deserve the Top 10-15 billing they got early in season. They were media darlings, deservedly so, but it’s very hard for any non power school to repeat the kind of success. Fwiw PCs resume is much better than theirs. Much better.
Lol part of that has to do with the fact PC played 15 quad 1 games to FAU's 4

FAU's win over AZ is still better than any PC has.

They're 25-7

You were saying they'd be like 40th

They'll dance again and they'll probably make noise again.

FAU is very much in the tournament.

They weren't media darlings at all, almost everyone has been counting on their demise all year as far as I can tell.
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reef wrote: 1 month ago Purdue seems to underachieve all the time but Painter has taken them to the sweet 16. 5 times
Here’s hoping we get a Purdue - St. Peter’s rematch in the Round of 64.
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I don’t think the committee compares power conference teams to non power conference apples to apples. Power conferences will always have more quad 1 wins but have many more opportunities.
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reef wrote: 1 month ago
reef wrote: 1 month ago Friars in or out ?
Latest check on bracketmatrix has PC the first team out of the field , it’s going to be close

Pull for Nc State tonight to win the auto bid

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The Wolfpack is getting it done.
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NC St takes care of UNC

3 bid stealing conferences
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Add the PAC 10 to the list.
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Yup 4 bid stealers ! Love it PC most likely out
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Since it matters so much to you, you don’t need to live vicariously through others. Embrace the role you played in keeping PC out. The fact that you suck so much that it’s a Q4 game for us is not helpful.
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Misery loves company.

There's been plenty of that here at old State U.

Hopkins getting hurt was the difference. It happens.

BtW, UConn will win it again. Everybody else are losing games.
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PCFriars wrote: 1 month ago Since it matters so much to you, you don’t need to live vicariously through others. Embrace the role you played in keeping PC out. The fact that you suck so much that it’s a Q4 game for us is not helpful.
We do embrace it, quite well! And if we’re ever a bubble team while PC is terrible and we then post in the PC Forum venting frustration, please point out how absurd that is!

Just a shame PC might miss out on NCAA’s and say no the NIT, which would mean URI and PC have the same conclusion to the season, we’ll get ‘em next year!
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So happy for Bashir Mason. He won three regular season conference championships at Wagner after staying and taking over for Dan but never made the tournament. This season, he wins the conference tournament at Saint Peter’s, and they’re going dancing.
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5 games today then Selection Sunday tonight

Brown and Temple go for AQ’s today with below .500 records

Duquesne knocked off Dayton in the Quarter-Finals of the A10 then beat St Bonaventure in the Semi-Finals. VCU up next at 1pm today
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PeterRamTime wrote: 1 month ago
bigappleram wrote: 1 month ago Someone here told me I was crazy when I said they didn’t deserve the Top 10-15 billing they got early in season. They were media darlings, deservedly so, but it’s very hard for any non power school to repeat the kind of success. Fwiw PCs resume is much better than theirs. Much better.
Lol part of that has to do with the fact PC played 15 quad 1 games to FAU's 4

FAU's win over AZ is still better than any PC has.

They're 25-7

You were saying they'd be like 40th

They'll dance again and they'll probably make noise again.

FAU is very much in the tournament.

They weren't media darlings at all, almost everyone has been counting on their demise all year as far as I can tell.
Aren’t they basically around 40th and right around the last byes / bubble cut line? They may get in but their resume is spotty with some real bad losses.
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Love stories like this...

Six days after he was dismissed by the team, (Dan) Monson led Long Beach State to the NCAA tournament with a 74-70 win over UC Davis on Saturday in the Big West tournament title game, adding at least a few more days to his tenure.

On Monday, Long Beach State announced it had "mutually" parted ways with Monson after 17 seasons, but the school agreed to allow him to coach the rest of the campaign. After LBSU lost five in a row entering the Big West tournament, there were few reasons to believe the season would last much longer for Monson and his crew.
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rambone 78 wrote: 1 month ago Misery loves company.

There's been plenty of that here at old State U.

Hopkins getting hurt was the difference. It happens.

BtW, UConn will win it again. Everybody else are losing games.
Think misery definitely not the right word . Upset that it probably won't happen yeah but very happy with the direction of the team. Definitely not miserable. I can definitely understand how you guys feel though we were there when keno was here. BTW I think Archie reminds me a lot of Keno .
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Well, I don’t know Archie, didn’t know Keno, and although I am down on Archie, Archie is no Keno.
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I don't get why Oklahoma, Michigan State and especially Colorado are supposedly safe.

It's like they can't make up their mind what they value more. Metrics or quality wins?

Colorado has one win over a clear cut tournament team in Wazoo. Next best win is Oregon a couple times...why are they so clearly ahead of UVA, St John's Seton Hall, A&M, PC etc?
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PeterRamTime wrote: 1 month ago I don't get why Oklahoma, Michigan State and especially Colorado are supposedly safe.

It's like they can't make up their mind what they value more. Metrics or quality wins?

Colorado has one win over a clear cut tournament team in Wazoo. Next best win is Oregon a couple times...why are they so clearly ahead of UVA, St John's Seton Hall, A&M, PC etc?
Colorado NET is 25.
St John’s 32
A&M 45
Oklahoma 46
Virginia 54
PC 57
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rhodyrudder wrote: 1 month ago
rambone 78 wrote: 1 month ago Purdue will not make the FF imo.

My prediction for the natty is either UConn or Houston.

Everybody else is too inconsistent.
Purdue hasn’t won a tourney game since ‘97 in Memphis, have they?

I know they lost in the first round last year.
What?

They have multiple Sweet 16s and an Elite 8 under Painter.

He’s been there since 2005.
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woodennickel1 wrote: 1 month ago
rambone 78 wrote: 1 month ago Misery loves company.

There's been plenty of that here at old State U.

Hopkins getting hurt was the difference. It happens.

BtW, UConn will win it again. Everybody else are losing games.
Think misery definitely not the right word . Upset that it probably won't happen yeah but very happy with the direction of the team. Definitely not miserable. I can definitely understand how you guys feel though we were there when keno was here. BTW I think Archie reminds me a lot of Keno .
I wonder how much the committee will look at the current PC team compared to overall resume.

The team as constructed isn’t even CLOSE to a tourney team.

Under .500 overall. 10-11.

Interested to see how much they weigh total resume to wins by the current team.
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PCFriars wrote: 1 month ago Since it matters so much to you, you don’t need to live vicariously through others. Embrace the role you played in keeping PC out. The fact that you suck so much that it’s a Q4 game for us is not helpful.
Let me be the first to say: BOO EFFING HOO!
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Rhody15 wrote: 1 month ago
woodennickel1 wrote: 1 month ago
rambone 78 wrote: 1 month ago Misery loves company.

There's been plenty of that here at old State U.

Hopkins getting hurt was the difference. It happens.

BtW, UConn will win it again. Everybody else are losing games.
Think misery definitely not the right word . Upset that it probably won't happen yeah but very happy with the direction of the team. Definitely not miserable. I can definitely understand how you guys feel though we were there when keno was here. BTW I think Archie reminds me a lot of Keno .
I wonder how much the committee will look at the current PC team compared to overall resume.

The team as constructed isn’t even CLOSE to a tourney team.

Under .500 overall. 10-11.

Interested to see how much they weigh total resume to wins by the current team.
4 quad 1 wins since Hopkins went down is more then almost all the teams currently on bubble.
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NHRamFan wrote: 1 month ago
PCFriars wrote: 1 month ago Since it matters so much to you, you don’t need to live vicariously through others. Embrace the role you played in keeping PC out. The fact that you suck so much that it’s a Q4 game for us is not helpful.
Let me be the first to say: BOO EFFING HOO!
Lol guess I would be a little salty too with my coach who has been a dumpster fire so far now will be making 2 million with his raise this year.
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Rhodymob05 wrote: 1 month ago
PeterRamTime wrote: 1 month ago I don't get why Oklahoma, Michigan State and especially Colorado are supposedly safe.

It's like they can't make up their mind what they value more. Metrics or quality wins?

Colorado has one win over a clear cut tournament team in Wazoo. Next best win is Oregon a couple times...why are they so clearly ahead of UVA, St John's Seton Hall, A&M, PC etc?
Colorado NET is 25.
St John’s 32
A&M 45
Oklahoma 46
Virginia 54
PC 57
I know their nets are high, but man did Colorado game the system.

I'd put all those teams ahead of them, easily.

How about this one.

Kansas State is 71 in the NET with wins over

Providence, Texas, Kansas, Iowa St, Baylor, BYU, Villanova and South Dakota State

They have one Q3 loss to Miami. Also a loss to OK St...but their resume is better if not the same as almost every single one of these other teams...but the NET says otherwise I guess. They aren't even on anyone's radar with all those good wins.
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woodennickel1 wrote: 1 month ago
Rhody15 wrote: 1 month ago
woodennickel1 wrote: 1 month ago

Think misery definitely not the right word . Upset that it probably won't happen yeah but very happy with the direction of the team. Definitely not miserable. I can definitely understand how you guys feel though we were there when keno was here. BTW I think Archie reminds me a lot of Keno .
I wonder how much the committee will look at the current PC team compared to overall resume.

The team as constructed isn’t even CLOSE to a tourney team.

Under .500 overall. 10-11.

Interested to see how much they weigh total resume to wins by the current team.
4 quad 1 wins since Hopkins went down is more then almost all the teams currently on bubble.

Big East outside of UConn is a fraud league. There are a few other good teams, I will admit PC was at one point in that group, but most of the league is no better than VCU, Duquesne, etc, many are much worse than Mid-level A10 teams. Just stack “quad 1” wins because those not any better teams wind up with better NET rankings. It will be proven again as the BE will get a large number of teams in and most will be bounced early by good teams from “crap” conferences. Outside UConn and Marquette (when Kolek is healthy) no team in the BE is that great.
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woodennickel1 wrote: 1 month ago
Rhody15 wrote: 1 month ago
woodennickel1 wrote: 1 month ago

Think misery definitely not the right word . Upset that it probably won't happen yeah but very happy with the direction of the team. Definitely not miserable. I can definitely understand how you guys feel though we were there when keno was here. BTW I think Archie reminds me a lot of Keno .
I wonder how much the committee will look at the current PC team compared to overall resume.

The team as constructed isn’t even CLOSE to a tourney team.

Under .500 overall. 10-11.

Interested to see how much they weigh total resume to wins by the current team.
4 quad 1 wins since Hopkins went down is more then almost all the teams currently on bubble.
Q1 wins aren’t created equal.

A win @ 16-17 Xavier isn’t going to move the needle.

All things considered, Xavier kinda stinks.
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Some bracketology sources that some may find helpful:


The Bracket Matrix is a summary of NCAA Tournament field selection projections and seeds made by over 100 entities.
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/

Joe Lunardi ESPN Bracketology
https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story ... redictions

Jerry Plam CBS Bracketology
https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... cketology/

NCAA NET Rankings
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketbal ... t-rankings
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Go Duquesne today!
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rhodylaw wrote: 1 month ago
woodennickel1 wrote: 1 month ago
Rhody15 wrote: 1 month ago

I wonder how much the committee will look at the current PC team compared to overall resume.

The team as constructed isn’t even CLOSE to a tourney team.

Under .500 overall. 10-11.

Interested to see how much they weigh total resume to wins by the current team.
4 quad 1 wins since Hopkins went down is more then almost all the teams currently on bubble.

Big East outside of UConn is a fraud league. There are a few other good teams, I will admit PC was at one point in that group, but most of the league is no better than VCU, Duquesne, etc, many are much worse than Mid-level A10 teams. Just stack “quad 1” wins because those not any better teams wind up with better NET rankings. It will be proven again as the BE will get a large number of teams in and most will be bounced early by good teams from “crap” conferences. Outside UConn and Marquette (when Kolek is healthy) no team in the BE is that great.
Key to being a top rated league is when your 8th and 9th place teams go out and beat teams like St Marys and Texas tech in the non conference.
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rhodylaw wrote: 1 month ago
woodennickel1 wrote: 1 month ago
Rhody15 wrote: 1 month ago

I wonder how much the committee will look at the current PC team compared to overall resume.

The team as constructed isn’t even CLOSE to a tourney team.

Under .500 overall. 10-11.

Interested to see how much they weigh total resume to wins by the current team.
4 quad 1 wins since Hopkins went down is more then almost all the teams currently on bubble.

Big East outside of UConn is a fraud league. There are a few other good teams, I will admit PC was at one point in that group, but most of the league is no better than VCU, Duquesne, etc, many are much worse than Mid-level A10 teams. Just stack “quad 1” wins because those not any better teams wind up with better NET rankings. It will be proven again as the BE will get a large number of teams in and most will be bounced early by good teams from “crap” conferences. Outside UConn and Marquette (when Kolek is healthy) no team in the BE is that great.
The majority of the Big East is much better than Duquesne. That’s not a question.
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While PC (NET #57) has some significant wins against Quad 1 teams, this is a bit offset by more than half their total wins (11) coming in quad four games. 1/4 (five) of PC's wins came versus BE cellar dwellers Georgetown (205) and DePaul (#320).
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I’m confused about why PC fans are coming to our message board today. It’s a massive day for their program as they may or may not make the tournament, and you want to come here to talk shit about Archie? Then again, most of their fanbase is like this, so I’m not surprised.
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NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 month ago
BobfromMatunuck wrote: 1 month ago Today I’m watching VCU v st. joes and Duq. v the bonnies. These matchups tell me how getable of a league this is.

Earlier this week at the harbor pub, the tender johnny said to me “Mr. matunuck, mr. matunuck, what do you think the rams should do this year?” and I said to him “reload.”
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steveystuds06 wrote: 1 month ago I’m confused about why PC fans are coming to our message board today. It’s a massive day for their program as they may or may not make the tournament, and you want to come here to talk shit about Archie? Then again, most of their fanbase is like this, so I’m not surprised.
Never understood why a few of these pc guys are on the board consistently over the years. Focus on being bitter at Koolz for running to Gtown. That’s more fun!
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steveystuds06 wrote: 1 month ago I’m confused about why PC fans are coming to our message board today. It’s a massive day for their program as they may or may not make the tournament, and you want to come here to talk shit about Archie? Then again, most of their fanbase is like this, so I’m not surprised.
I would say I’m surprised but I’m not.

They are incredibly insufferable.

Not all of them, but most.
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steveystuds06 wrote: 1 month ago I’m confused about why PC fans are coming to our message board today. It’s a massive day for their program as they may or may not make the tournament, and you want to come here to talk shit about Archie? Then again, most of their fanbase is like this, so I’m not surprised.

Because Providence fans stay being the weirdest (and not in a good way) lil folks on the internet.
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ace wrote: 1 month ago
steveystuds06 wrote: 1 month ago I’m confused about why PC fans are coming to our message board today. It’s a massive day for their program as they may or may not make the tournament, and you want to come here to talk shit about Archie? Then again, most of their fanbase is like this, so I’m not surprised.

Because Providence fans stay being the weirdest (and not in a good way) lil folks on the internet.
plus, their message board...well, you know....
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The amount of whining from English and Nap on Twitter is hilarious.

Be more desperate.

Or better yet, win more games.
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ace wrote: 1 month ago
steveystuds06 wrote: 1 month ago I’m confused about why PC fans are coming to our message board today. It’s a massive day for their program as they may or may not make the tournament, and you want to come here to talk shit about Archie? Then again, most of their fanbase is like this, so I’m not surprised.

Because Providence fans stay being the weirdest (and not in a good way) lil folks on the internet.
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ramster wrote: 1 month ago
ace wrote: 1 month ago
steveystuds06 wrote: 1 month ago I’m confused about why PC fans are coming to our message board today. It’s a massive day for their program as they may or may not make the tournament, and you want to come here to talk shit about Archie? Then again, most of their fanbase is like this, so I’m not surprised.

Because Providence fans stay being the weirdest (and not in a good way) lil folks on the internet.
Lunardi’s Sunday morning latest:

Mountain West - 6 teams
Big East - 3 teams
WCC, AAC, A10 - 2 teams

Say it ain’t so Val Ackerman



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A little surprising, I figured SH and St. Johns would be in.

Boise State (MWC) barely beat VCU by 4 pts when they were without Bam and Bairstow.
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Jersey77 wrote: 1 month ago
ramster wrote: 1 month ago
ace wrote: 1 month ago


Because Providence fans stay being the weirdest (and not in a good way) lil folks on the internet.
Lunardi’s Sunday morning latest:

Mountain West - 6 teams
Big East - 3 teams
WCC, AAC, A10 - 2 teams

Say it ain’t so Val Ackerman



IMG_2729.jpeg
A little surprising, I figured SH and St. Johns would be in.

Boise State (MWC) barely beat VCU by 4 pts when they were without Bam and Bairstow.
They still might be. It’s Lunardi version.

I expect St John’s and Pitino to be in. But it’s fun to see the PC fan interest here today. Fun seeing some Bracketologists with just 3 BE Teams. Georgetown and DePaul weighing down the BE Boat.
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ramster wrote: 1 month ago
Jersey77 wrote: 1 month ago
ramster wrote: 1 month ago

Lunardi’s Sunday morning latest:

Mountain West - 6 teams
Big East - 3 teams
WCC, AAC, A10 - 2 teams

Say it ain’t so Val Ackerman



IMG_2729.jpeg
A little surprising, I figured SH and St. Johns would be in.

Boise State (MWC) barely beat VCU by 4 pts when they were without Bam and Bairstow.
They still might be. It’s Lunardi version.

I expect St John’s and Pitino to be in. But it’s fun to see the PC fan interest here today. Fun seeing some Bracketologists with just 3 BE Teams. Georgetown and DePaul weighing down the BE Boat.
Yea I can’t see St John’s and Seton Hall being left out.
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ramster wrote: 1 month ago
Jersey77 wrote: 1 month ago
ramster wrote: 1 month ago

Lunardi’s Sunday morning latest:

Mountain West - 6 teams
Big East - 3 teams
WCC, AAC, A10 - 2 teams

Say it ain’t so Val Ackerman



IMG_2729.jpeg
A little surprising, I figured SH and St. Johns would be in.

Boise State (MWC) barely beat VCU by 4 pts when they were without Bam and Bairstow.
They still might be. It’s Lunardi version.

I expect St John’s and Pitino to be in. But it’s fun to see the PC fan interest here today. Fun seeing some Bracketologists with just 3 BE Teams. Georgetown and DePaul weighing down the BE Boat.
Yeah I know, just surprised seeing that from Lunardi.
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Re: Games of Interest - 2023-2024 MBB

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Jersey77 wrote: 1 month ago
ramster wrote: 1 month ago
Jersey77 wrote: 1 month ago

A little surprising, I figured SH and St. Johns would be in.

Boise State (MWC) barely beat VCU by 4 pts when they were without Bam and Bairstow.
They still might be. It’s Lunardi version.

I expect St John’s and Pitino to be in. But it’s fun to see the PC fan interest here today. Fun seeing some Bracketologists with just 3 BE Teams. Georgetown and DePaul weighing down the BE Boat.
Yeah I know, just surprised seeing that from Lunardi.

Look at todays BracketMatrix

St John’s is in only 65 of 108
Seton Hall is in only 20 of 108
PC is in only 7 of 108

Odds are none of these 3 teams get in. St John’s is a bit above 50-50 chance

But then there's Dan Gavitt :o :o :o
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