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ramster wrote: ↑6 months ago URI goes for win number 7 Saturday at Towson

URI has finished 7-4 the past 2 years so this would represent a consistent 3 years with 7-4 records

Prior to this the last time URI won 7 or more games was in 2001 going 8-3

Since 1986 (38 years) we have had a .500 or winning record only 8 times with 4 of those winning records being the last 4 years:
1991 (6-5)
1995 (7-4)
2001 (8-3)
2018 (6-5)

2020 (2-1)
2021 (7-4)
2022 (7-4)
2023 (???)



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ramster wrote: ↑6 months ago #47 Jarrett Martin is listed as the starter at Safety against Towson!!

Last Saturday Martin tied with Safety Brent Jackson with 10 tackles (4 solo, 6 assisted), 1 tackle for loss and .5 sacks.

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑6 months ago

ramster wrote: ↑6 months ago #47 Jarrett Martin is listed as the starter at Safety against Towson!!

Last Saturday Martin tied with Safety Brent Jackson with 10 tackles (4 solo, 6 assisted), 1 tackle for loss and .5 sacks.

Emmanuel Gomes was listed as the starter all season including going into North Carolina A&T, but it doesn't look like he played at all Saturday. Same situation took place against New Hampshire the week before

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑6 months ago

ramster wrote: ↑6 months ago URI goes for win number 7 Saturday at Towson

URI has finished 7-4 the past 2 years so this would represent a consistent 3 years with 7-4 records

Prior to this the last time URI won 7 or more games was in 2001 going 8-3

Since 1986 (38 years) we have had a .500 or winning record only 8 times with 4 of those winning records being the last 4 years:
1991 (6-5)
1995 (7-4)
2001 (8-3)
2018 (6-5)

2020 (2-1)
2021 (7-4)
2022 (7-4)
2023 (???)



IMG_0830.jpeg

It's really quite the conundrum. Obviously Fleming has had more success than any coach we've had in the last 40 years and in theory with a massively renovated stadium on the horizon he, and the program, could be poised for another bump. 4 winning seasons in a row, 5 out of 6 is almost unprecedented here. URI football really shouldn't be in the business of showing a coach like that the door.

On the other hand, some posters here have talked about moving on, who knows who else feels that way. It does seem that Fleming has hit a ceiling which happens to be just shy of a playoff level team. He's also 64 now and you have to wonder A. how much he has left/how much longer he wants to do this and B. if he's capable of taking another step leading this program into a massively renovated stadium.

Complicating factors are no one outside of the program seems to know what his contract situation is and in theory now that the program isn't in the toilet and another investment is right on the horizon we should be a more attractive destination for future candidates. Also we are losing a ton of players, especially on offense. No matter who is in charge a massive rebuild is here and it's probably going to be 2025 at the earliest we can even think about getting back to even the level we're at now no matter who the head coach is.

Personally I land on keeping Fleming. Flaws and all, it's hard to ignore the 4 winning seasons in a row, 5 out of the last 6 when it comes to this program. The tougher question for me is what happens if he looks for another school or another school comes looking?

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑6 months ago

ramster wrote: ↑6 months ago URI goes for win number 7 Saturday at Towson

URI has finished 7-4 the past 2 years so this would represent a consistent 3 years with 7-4 records

Prior to this the last time URI won 7 or more games was in 2001 going 8-3

Since 1986 (38 years) we have had a .500 or winning record only 8 times with 4 of those winning records being the last 4 years:
1991 (6-5)
1995 (7-4)
2001 (8-3)
2018 (6-5)

2020 (2-1)
2021 (7-4)
2022 (7-4)
2023 (???)



IMG_0830.jpeg

It's really quite the conundrum. Obviously Fleming has had more success than any coach we've had in the last 40 years and in theory with a massively renovated stadium on the horizon he, and the program, could be poised for another bump. 4 winning seasons in a row, 5 out of 6 is almost unprecedented here. URI football really shouldn't be in the business of showing a coach like that the door.

On the other hand, some posters here have talked about moving on, who knows who else feels that way. It does seem that Fleming has hit a ceiling which happens to be just shy of a playoff level team. He's also 64 now and you have to wonder A. how much he has left/how much longer he wants to do this and B. if he's capable of taking another step leading this program into a massively renovated stadium.

Complicating factors are no one outside of the program seems to know what his contract situation is and in theory now that the program isn't in the toilet and another investment is right on the horizon we should be a more attractive destination for future candidates. Also we are losing a ton of players, especially on offense. No matter who is in charge a massive rebuild is here and it's probably going to be 2025 at the earliest we can even think about getting back to even the level we're at now no matter who the head coach is.

Personally I land on keeping Fleming. Flaws and all, it's hard to ignore the 4 winning seasons in a row, 5 out of the last 6 when it comes to this program. The tougher question for me is what happens if he looks for another school or another school comes looking?

jcru wrote: ↑6 months ago I agree.

You can't fire Fleming, he's pretty much unfireable at this point. His performance mirrors the performance of his QB: which is to say, very good, just not good enough to clear that last hurdle.

He runs a clean program, he is constantly improving the quality of recruits, everything trends upwards. I really hope they bring their best game today and beat Towson and make it three straight 7 win seasons. With each such season, the University, State, boosters, and community make a greater commitment to the program.

I know it is frustrating, but he's going to do it sooner rather than later. He is well liked by his peers in the CAA, what's not to like, really? He's the consummate gentleman who believes in fair play, he's a straight shooter, he won't run up the score and demoralize his opponent when he has them down on the canvas. If this were Pro Wrestling, he'd be a "baby face" as opposed to a "heel".

And most importantly, we have seen the alternative. And it can be very ugly. Fleming is not ugly. He's the definition of slow and steady wins the race. He's going to have this team in striking distance, perpetually, going forward, and at some point he is going to have the right mix of players to take it from there. And that's when it is really going to be fun.

FmrRamFB1 wrote: ↑6 months ago

jcru wrote: ↑6 months ago I agree.

You can't fire Fleming, he's pretty much unfireable at this point. His performance mirrors the performance of his QB: which is to say, very good, just not good enough to clear that last hurdle.

He runs a clean program, he is constantly improving the quality of recruits, everything trends upwards. I really hope they bring their best game today and beat Towson and make it three straight 7 win seasons. With each such season, the University, State, boosters, and community make a greater commitment to the program.

I know it is frustrating, but he's going to do it sooner rather than later. He is well liked by his peers in the CAA, what's not to like, really? He's the consummate gentleman who believes in fair play, he's a straight shooter, he won't run up the score and demoralize his opponent when he has them down on the canvas. If this were Pro Wrestling, he'd be a "baby face" as opposed to a "heel".

And most importantly, we have seen the alternative. And it can be very ugly. Fleming is not ugly. He's the definition of slow and steady wins the race. He's going to have this team in striking distance, perpetually, going forward, and at some point he is going to have the right mix of players to take it from there. And that's when it is really going to be fun.

I agree with many of your points, but the default can’t be the right mix of players. We have good enough players to compete for a playoff birth now. Not utilizing McKenzie’s talents until the end of the season was a bad coaching decision. None of the playoff contending teams have better players than us.

brady1 wrote: ↑6 months ago

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑6 months ago

ramster wrote: ↑6 months ago URI goes for win number 7 Saturday at Towson

URI has finished 7-4 the past 2 years so this would represent a consistent 3 years with 7-4 records

Prior to this the last time URI won 7 or more games was in 2001 going 8-3

Since 1986 (38 years) we have had a .500 or winning record only 8 times with 4 of those winning records being the last 4 years:
1991 (6-5)
1995 (7-4)
2001 (8-3)
2018 (6-5)

2020 (2-1)
2021 (7-4)
2022 (7-4)
2023 (???)



IMG_0830.jpeg

It's really quite the conundrum. Obviously Fleming has had more success than any coach we've had in the last 40 years and in theory with a massively renovated stadium on the horizon he, and the program, could be poised for another bump. 4 winning seasons in a row, 5 out of 6 is almost unprecedented here. URI football really shouldn't be in the business of showing a coach like that the door.

On the other hand, some posters here have talked about moving on, who knows who else feels that way. It does seem that Fleming has hit a ceiling which happens to be just shy of a playoff level team. He's also 64 now and you have to wonder A. how much he has left/how much longer he wants to do this and B. if he's capable of taking another step leading this program into a massively renovated stadium.

Complicating factors are no one outside of the program seems to know what his contract situation is and in theory now that the program isn't in the toilet and another investment is right on the horizon we should be a more attractive destination for future candidates. Also we are losing a ton of players, especially on offense. No matter who is in charge a massive rebuild is here and it's probably going to be 2025 at the earliest we can even think about getting back to even the level we're at now no matter who the head coach is.

Personally I land on keeping Fleming. Flaws and all, it's hard to ignore the 4 winning seasons in a row, 5 out of the last 6 when it comes to this program. The tougher question for me is what happens if he looks for another school or another school comes looking?

Very good take on things. I agree. His recruiting lately has been exceptional. Hopefully we can reload keep a winning record or better. I’d love to find a D1 stud quarterback in the off season. Always a possibility.

GO RHODY!

RIrugger01 wrote: ↑6 months ago I hear Jimbo Fisher isn’t doing anything these days. Probably wouldn’t even need to pay him lol

FmrRamFB1 wrote: ↑6 months ago

RIrugger01 wrote: ↑6 months ago I hear Jimbo Fisher isn’t doing anything these days. Probably wouldn’t even need to pay him lol

He wastes talent worse than Fleming.

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑6 months ago Absolutely brutal end. We get it down to the Towson 30 with five seconds left and no timeouts, clock stopped for the first down. Instead of clocking it where we'd have 2 or 3 seconds left and all the time needed to setup for the game winning field goal we tried to rush the field goal unit on the field and didn't get another snap

McRam wrote: ↑6 months ago

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑6 months ago Absolutely brutal end. We get it down to the Towson 30 with five seconds left and no timeouts, clock stopped for the first down. Instead of clocking it where we'd have 2 or 3 seconds left and all the time needed to setup for the game winning field goal we tried to rush the field goal unit on the field and didn't get another snap

I didn’t see the game, but did we really not spike the ball and had time to do it?

McRam wrote: ↑6 months ago

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑6 months ago Absolutely brutal end. We get it down to the Towson 30 with five seconds left and no timeouts, clock stopped for the first down. Instead of clocking it where we'd have 2 or 3 seconds left and all the time needed to setup for the game winning field goal we tried to rush the field goal unit on the field and didn't get another snap

I didn’t see the game, but did we really not spike the ball and had time to do it?

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑6 months ago

McRam wrote: ↑6 months ago

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑6 months ago Absolutely brutal end. We get it down to the Towson 30 with five seconds left and no timeouts, clock stopped for the first down. Instead of clocking it where we'd have 2 or 3 seconds left and all the time needed to setup for the game winning field goal we tried to rush the field goal unit on the field and didn't get another snap

I didn’t see the game, but did we really not spike the ball and had time to do it?

Can confirm. We screwed the pooch

FmrRamFB1 wrote: ↑6 months ago

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑6 months ago

McRam wrote: ↑6 months ago

I didn’t see the game, but did we really not spike the ball and had time to do it?

Can confirm. We screwed the pooch

Again we screwed the pooch.

Enough with being satisfied with winning seasons. Albany was 3-8 last year, and this year, they’re conference champs. We can’t figure out how to win 1 extra game. We start every game, not with a talent disadvantage, but a coaching one. Yesterday was just another example of shitty coaching.

Bos8 wrote: ↑6 months ago

FmrRamFB1 wrote: ↑6 months ago

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑6 months ago

Can confirm. We screwed the pooch

Again we screwed the pooch.

Enough with being satisfied with winning seasons. Albany was 3-8 last year, and this year, they’re conference champs. We can’t figure out how to win 1 extra game. We start every game, not with a talent disadvantage, but a coaching one. Yesterday was just another example of shitty coaching.

I'm confused about how I should feel about the program... On one hand, I have a person telling me I shouldn't feel satisfied with winning seasons. Yeah, we are 22-14 over the past four years. I mean yeah, before the current coach, we only had two winning seasons in 30 years, but I shouldn't just be satisfied with multiple winning seasons, right?

On the other hand, I see daily posts of these awesome 1AA stadiums, while we play in a glorified high school stadium. Are the posters saying we would be able to hire a Danny Hurley type to lead us to the promise land, ignoring history and our 5,000 person stadium to bring us a national title?

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑5 months ago $1 million video board with replays

jcru wrote: ↑5 months ago absolutely, as facilities have improved, recruiting has improved.

I don't like how the university media page hides or glosses over the ending of this game. For instance, yesterday at my brother's house on Thanksgiving, he was like, what happened at the end of that game? "Penalty for: too many men on the field?"

And I told him. They had a chance to win the game with a FG, and the kicking team rushed onto the field while the offense was trying to spike the ball to stop the clock for them, on the 30 yard line with 5 seconds left, and time expired.

He had no idea, and that's the point. It's embarrassing, and it should be embarrassing, someone should be held accountable, even if it's just to point out that someone allowed that to happen. But they don't strive for honesty, hence no one is accountable, therego, it could happen again, because "no big deal".

Is that a fireable offense? No. But it speaks of a lack of control of the team, the team's overall game IQ, and team discipline. No team at this level should lose a game in THAT way. If the kicker shanks the FG, that's one thing. A clean and decisive ending. Win or lose based on a 40 foot FG. But to not even be given the chance under those circumstances? Face palm (which is exactly what my brother did when I told him).