'19 G Charles Pride (Bryant ---> Bonnies)

[Rhody74]

He would thrive with the Bonnie’s.

[Rhody15]

I believe he was down to St Bonnie’s and Bryant as his final two coming out of hs.

Would make sense if he goes there seeing how it’s close to home.

[adam914]

If he ends up going A10 and we didn't close the deal that would be a little disappointing.

[jcru]

That would be a huge disappointment

[jcru]

I believe he was down to St Bonnie’s and Bryant as his final two coming out of hs.

Would make sense if he goes there seeing how it’s close to home.

Yeah but the only thing is, he was under recruited coming out of high school. He didn’t “narrow it down” to those two schools

[reef]

Ugh definitely don’t want him in Olean

[Jersey77]

Ugh definitely don’t want him in Olean

If he doesn't come here, I wouldn't mind him going to the Bonnies.
I always want the A10 to get as many good players as possible and be competitive.
If not, then shouldn't complain about being a 1-bid league.

[Rhody15]

Ugh definitely don’t want him in Olean

You really do want zero good players in the A10 huh?

You want a multi bud league, but literally want every other team to suck.

Making no sense.

[DevRam]

[Ramfan22]

St. Bonaventure or Minnesota

[Dino611]

St. Bonaventure or Minnesota

Hearing it’s Minnesota

[Rhodymob05]

St. Bonaventure or Minnesota

Hearing it’s Minnesota

Big 10 but meh.

[CamsRams]

Bonnies

[Rhodymob05]

Wonderful

[Ramfan22]

Rhode Island wasn’t in the mix

[Jersey77]

Bonnies

Yep.
The last couple of days the A10 has picked up several quality players.

[steviep123]

Would have been a good get but also not super disappointed because he’s a one year guy.

[McRam]

Rhode Island wasn’t in the mix

Why do u say that?

[Jersey77]

Would have been a good get but also not super disappointed because he’s a one year guy.

I would have taken him in a second regardless of how many years.
Times are different now, need to look at success short term, taking 1-season at a time.
He is a player that can maybe move the needle, and a good season can set the tone for getting better players down the road.

[McRam]

Would have been a good get but also not super disappointed because he’s a one year guy.

Didn’t have any one year recruits last year, how did that work out?

[McRam]

Would have been a good get but also not super disappointed because he’s a one year guy.

I would have taken him in a second regardless of how many years.
Times are different now, need to look at success short term, taking 1-season at a time.
He is a player that can maybe move the needle, and a good season can set the tone for getting better players down the road.

Jersey, your comment is ABSOLUTELY 100% correct!!

[bigappleram]

If you aren’t concerned you aren’t paying attention.
Talent wins games. We are not moving up in the pecking order without it. And right now multiple teams have added more talent than we have and were already starting from a better base.

[RIFan]

Take the best players available no matter how many years and only plan on having them one year. Such a sad reality.

We used to have to worry about our coach being poached after a nice run by the team, but now we need to be worried about how we can even do that as players most likely will leave after having a good individual season.

[Billyboy78]

I guess even his girlfriend couldn't convince him to consider us.

[RamStock]

I’m not surprised he didn’t come here at all. I said I doubted we were in on him or going to get him, but definitely surprised by the Bonnie’s. He would have been a great get for us. Who knows what is going to happen, but the ceiling looks to be middle of the pack in the A-10 in a weak league if some of these guys produce. Last 2 pickups will make or break us

[bigappleram]

And it wasn’t bc of NIL. Nor was the Top 150 recruit who chose Umass. Nor Buchanan choosing GW. And Schmidt retained Farrell a very highly regarded FR. Caputo retained Edwards. Can we stop blaming all these other factors when peer programs are landing talented transfers and also retaining players.

Punch above our weight puhleeeeez.

[Rhody15]

Would have been a good get but also not super disappointed because he’s a one year guy.

Absolutely ridiculous take.

Kid would’ve been the best player on the team, leading to more wins, more respectability, which hopefully then leads to better recruits.

But yea, let’s get a stiff with multiple years left in order to win 11 games this season.

[Rhody15]

And it wasn’t bc of NIL. Nor was the Top 150 recruit who chose Umass. Nor Buchanan choosing GW. And Schmidt retained Farrell a very highly regarded FR. Caputo retained Edwards. Can we stop blaming all these other factors when peer programs are landing talented transfers and also retaining players.

Punch above our weight puhleeeeez.

I mean Luis had a two year 100K deal at UMass, and that only came out after he transferred.

You can’t say this kid for UMass isn’t going because of NIL.

[bigappleram]

And it wasn’t bc of NIL. Nor was the Top 150 recruit who chose Umass. Nor Buchanan choosing GW. And Schmidt retained Farrell a very highly regarded FR. Caputo retained Edwards. Can we stop blaming all these other factors when peer programs are landing talented transfers and also retaining players.

Punch above our weight puhleeeeez.

I mean Luis had a two year 100K deal at UMass, and that only came out after he transferred.

Curry didn’t pick Umass bc they threw gobs of cash at him.
He had multiple P5 offers.
No one is landing kids in A10 bc they have enormous NiL advantage over us. And certainly not Umass. That was the obvious point Hall Monitor.

You can’t say this kid for UMass isn’t going because of NIL.

[steveystuds06]

I expected more from this staff during this cycle. We got some good players. No one special. To lose out on Pride to another A10 school? That’s a massive letdown. Same with Buru to freaking Oakland.

Hopefully some of our new players breakout. I’m willing to wait and see what this team looks like but if we suck again I’m going to have a lot of doubts.

[steviep123]

Would have been a good get but also not super disappointed because he’s a one year guy.

Absolutely ridiculous take.

Kid would’ve been the best player on the team, leading to more wins, more respectability, which hopefully then leads to better recruits.

But yea, let’s get a stiff with multiple years left in order to win 11 games this season.

No. Not ridiculous. I want a guy of pride’s caliber or better with multiple years remaining and keep him.

[Jersey77]

Would have been a good get but also not super disappointed because he’s a one year guy.

Absolutely ridiculous take.

Kid would’ve been the best player on the team, leading to more wins, more respectability, which hopefully then leads to better recruits.

But yea, let’s get a stiff with multiple years left in order to win 11 games this season.

No. Not ridiculous. I want a guy of pride’s caliber or better with multiple years remaining and keep him.

Yeah, good luck with that, pass the Limoncello.

[rambone 78]

I agree that we need a couple of home runs with our last 2 openings.

If not, I'm not overly optimistic about next season.

And if we have another poor season, the staff honeymoon is over.

[Jersey77]

I agree that we need a couple of home runs with our last 2 openings.

If not, I'm not overly optimistic about next season.

And if we have another poor season, the staff honeymoon is over.

Yes we do, if not I don't think our current rotation gets us out of the bottom tier.

[jcru]

There are some here who think filling the 12th scholarship means being the 12th person on the team depth wise. Completely disregarding the fact that some of the best players in the portal, like Pride, specifically held out for a long time to make a decision.

Let’s hope those people are dead wrong because if the very next recruit is a “stealth” recruit that no one else was looking at, it does not bode well for the upcoming season, no matter who comes along to put a happy spin on it.

We might have started off in decent shape with brown, house and Montgomery. But since then, several A-10 teams have come along and taken better advantage of the portal than we have. This is just one example. SLU, VCU, GM and even GWU and UMass and St Bonny here have been getting very solid players using the portal in the interim. All of this talk of “it’s ok, because the A-10 is getting weaker” took a decisive turn over the last few weeks while we used two scholarships on combo guard point guards because we couldn’t decide between the two, so we went with both.

Maybe that will prove to be a master stroke, anything is possible, but in the meantime we lost Buru and weren’t even in the picture for Pride, we lost Enoch to Dayton, we lost Buchanan to GM and every time it happens it’s the sour grapes show of how they were marginal or whatever excuse is used to downplay their significance.

[ramster]

I agree that we need a couple of home runs with our last 2 openings.

If not, I'm not overly optimistic about next season.

And if we have another poor season, the staff honeymoon is over.

FIFY

[rhodyblue12]

I agree with jcru above.

I keep wondering what Blue Man is thinking about all this.
He either knows something we don't and is keeping quiet, or he is burning all his "I believe in Archie" shirts.

Hoping for the former. I'm still on board with this staff. Let's see what the next two draft picks bring us.

[Rhody15]

I agree with jcru above.

I keep wondering what Blue Man is thinking about all this.
He either knows something we don't and is keeping quiet, or he is burning all his "I believe in Archie" shirts.

Hoping for the former. I'm still on board with this staff. Let's see what the next two draft picks bring us.

He’s said multiple times he checks out in the off-season.

[RIFan]

I hate the stealth recruiting as it tells me they are not confident in their ability to close against real competition.

[Dino611]

Damn I think this is the first time I’ve seen Trilly Donavan be wrong with a pick

[steveystuds06]

I agree with jcru above.

I keep wondering what Blue Man is thinking about all this.
He either knows something we don't and is keeping quiet, or he is burning all his "I believe in Archie" shirts.

Hoping for the former. I'm still on board with this staff. Let's see what the next two draft picks bring us.

I'm not gonna speak for him, but we talk regularly, and he 100% still believes in Archie. I don't think he's keeping quiet about anything, though. As of right now, I don't think we are in the mix for any home run type gets. But we shall see.

[jcru]

I disagree that NIL had nothing to do with this. We had sources on this site who said URI wasn’t going to “use resources” ie spend money to get Pride in here. That either means nothing, or some sort of standard NIL package and whether or not URI even felt he was worth any package at all would only be known by people very close to the program but it wasn’t even ball park what it would take.

As soon as Minnesota entered the picture, you can completely throw out that argument that NIL wasn’t part of this decision because they are a P5 football school and they have the resource to give every single recruit a handsome package.

So how did he wind up at St Bonaventure you might ask?

Well MN is very much like a P5 URI right now. Bottom of their conference and desperately trying to climb out of the basement. So, if you listen to their fans, there is a common thread there, that as soon as Pride took his official visit and didn’t sign before leaving, they were dreading it. That’s how it is with us right now too. It does not bode well.

So, hypothetically speaking, say MN offers each recruit a standard NIL package of $50k. When Pride left and went to Olean, NY, he would have told them, this is my best offer, are you able to match it?

Somehow, St Bonny, who only needs about 3-4 choice key players to shore up their lineup and not an entire roster of players, went to their boosters and came up with the money.

If I am wrong feel free to say so, but how else do you explain that? St Bonny, like many of our other conference breathren, see the value of being the absolute best they can be every single year, wins and losses wise, they aren’t on a four year plan to be competitive.

With Pride and two other players at his level, at least we deprived them of one in Brown, but they then went ahead and poached a similar player from somewhere else in the conference, can be a top-5 team this year. That’s what they would have sold Pride on.

Even with Pride, MN was still going to be in the basement this year.

[bigappleram]

So you think Bonnies overpaid to get Pride? They are one of the lowest resourced programs in the league. I am guessing most if not all of the programs (including ours) offered Pride a standard NIL package and he decided to go home for his last year of school, play for a great coach and compete at the top of the A10 for a bid.

[PeterRamTime]

I agree with jcru above.

I keep wondering what Blue Man is thinking about all this.
He either knows something we don't and is keeping quiet, or he is burning all his "I believe in Archie" shirts.

Hoping for the former. I'm still on board with this staff. Let's see what the next two draft picks bring us.

I'm not gonna speak for him, but we talk regularly, and he 100% still believes in Archie. I don't think he's keeping quiet about anything, though. As of right now, I don't think we are in the mix for any home run type gets. But we shall see.

We just didn't pick up any homerun guys. It's disappointing, but we have certainly hauled in a far more promising group compared to last year. More experience and more talent across the board. While expecting the players we bring back to get better.

[Iggy1979]

Ask yourself: how did a player with those numbers end up at St Bon?

[bigappleram]

It is close to home Iggy. And they have a great coach. And with him, on paper at least, they have a roster that could compete near top of the league for a bid. I’m sure he got some cash but doubt it’s anything we couldn’t have come up with given their resources and booster base. But who knows.

[reef]

I’m still taking a long term approach by year 3 expect to be a top 4 conference team

[Jdrums#3]

Not surprised. I was not expecting him to sign here. I am mildly disappointed because would have liked to have added his scoring punch.

[rambone 78]

If we are to be top 4 by year 3, then Archie has to nail the November recruiting period for the 2024-5 season.

Because it doesn't look like we will be there next season, at least right now.

[RhowdyRam02]

Would have been a good get but also not super disappointed because he’s a one year guy.

Absolutely ridiculous take.

Kid would’ve been the best player on the team, leading to more wins, more respectability, which hopefully then leads to better recruits.

But yea, let’s get a stiff with multiple years left in order to win 11 games this season.

You have no idea Vault how Pride will do outside of Grasso's "system". He was a chuck and duck player that played no defense at Bryant, let's see how he does when he has to play real basketball