NIT Game Talk 2023

[ramster]

Morehead State upsets 1-seed Clemson 68-64. Clemson was favored at home by 15.5
Brad Brownell was not happy about being left out of the NCAA Tournament


Florida upset at home by UCF

[RF1]

A lot of the perceived higher profile name schools have lost in the NIT thus far.

Clemson (Morehead State)
Villanova (Liberty)
Rutgers (Hofstra)
Santa Clara (Sam Houston)
New Mexico (Utah Valley)
Washington State (Eastern Wash)
Florida (UCF)

[NYGFan_Section208]

A lot of the perceived higher profile name schools have lost in the NIT thus far.

Clemson (Morehead State)
Villanova (Liberty)
Rutgers (Hofstra)
Santa Clara (Sam Houston)
New Mexico (Utah Valley)
Washington State (Eastern Wash)
Florida (UCF)

Ish to Hofstra?

For teams that expected NCAAT... probably hard to get up for this...

[SGreenwell]

Yeah, the first and second round of the NIT is mostly for routing out the "we don't really want to be here" teams.

[ramster]

Tuesday March 28 Semi-Finals in Las Vegas

• North Texas (29-7) (-1.5) vs Wisconsin (20-14) 7pm ESPN

• Utah Valley (28-8) vs UAB (28-9) (-2) 9:30pm ESPN2

NET
38-North Texas
57-Alabama Birmingham
74-Utah Valley
80-Wisconsin

North Texas and Alabama Birmingham are both headed to the AAC as is Florida Atlantic

[reef]

Has the NIT ever gotten 3 of the final 4 non P6 schools ??

[ramster]

Has the NIT ever gotten 3 of the final 4 non P6 schools ??

And the 1 P5 school has the worst NET of the 4 Semi-Finalists

[reef]

Good catch Ramster # 80 Wiscy

[Rhodymob05]

Wow, Nova, Rutgers, SH done.

[RF1]

Wow, Nova, Rutgers, SH done.

They all went down to defeat in their first games. Rutgers lost at home to Hofstra. Villanova got beat at Liberty and Seton Hall at Colorado.

[reef]

Hope Wiscy loses for an all non P6 nit final 4

[ramster]

Tuesday March 28 Semi-Finals in Las Vegas

• North Texas (29-7) (-1.5) vs Wisconsin (20-14) 7pm ESPN

• Utah Valley (28-8) vs UAB (28-9) (-2) 9:30pm ESPN2

NET
38-North Texas
57-Alabama Birmingham
74-Utah Valley
80-Wisconsin

North Texas and Alabama Birmingham are both headed to the AAC as is Florida Atlantic

North Texas beats Wisconsin 56-54
The Badgers did not score a single point, not ONE, for the last 9 minutes, 8 seconds of the game.

Next up, Utah Valley takes on UAB for the right to take on UNT Thursday night in Las Vegas.


North Texas has been playing without Ousmane, out for family personal reasons.

[reef]

Tuesday March 28 Semi-Finals in Las Vegas

• North Texas (29-7) (-1.5) vs Wisconsin (20-14) 7pm ESPN

• Utah Valley (28-8) vs UAB (28-9) (-2) 9:30pm ESPN2

NET
38-North Texas
57-Alabama Birmingham
74-Utah Valley
80-Wisconsin

North Texas and Alabama Birmingham are both headed to the AAC as is Florida Atlantic

North Texas beats Wisconsin 56-54
The Badgers did not score a single point, not ONE, for the last 9 minutes, 8 seconds of the game.

Next up, Utah Valley takes on UAB for the right to take on UNT Thursday night in Las Vegas.


North Texas has been playing without Ousmane, out for family personal reasons.
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Wow Ramster 0 points last 908 !!

[ramster]

UAB defeats Utah Valley by 2 points in OT to reach the Chamipnship game Thursday night in Las Vegas vs North Texas.

It will be an All Conference USA (and future All AAC) Final

UAB, North Texas, FAU, Charlotte, Rice and UTSA will all be joining the AAC, all from Conference USA.

The NIT had 13 P6 Teams among the 32 participants.

UAB and North Texas made the NIT Championship and FAU is in the NCAA Final Four. All 3 Going out of Conference USA and into the AAC with a bang.

AAC will increase from 11 to 14 teams with the addition of these 6 Conference USA Teams and the reduction of 3 teams joining Big 12 in Houston, Cincinnati and UCF. Brigham Young will also be joining Big 12 from WCC.

[rambone 78]

Could we see a day when the NCAA tourney is comprised only of P5 schools, and the NIT is for everyone else?

Just like FBS and FCS for football.

Of course I hope not, but you never know. If the P5's break away, it or something like it could happen.

[reef]

Unbelievable Conf USA

Charlotte CBI champs
UAB nit finals
FAU final 4

[ramster]

Unbelievable Conf USA

Charlotte CBI champs
UAB nit finals
FAU final 4

That right Reef,
But you left out North Texas, also from Conf USA

And all 4 of these schools are headed to American Athletic Conference July 1, 2023

Charlotte
North Texas
UAB
FAU

What great timing for the AAC

[reef]

Unbelievable Conf USA

Charlotte CBI champs
UAB nit finals
FAU final 4

That right Reef,
But you left out North Texas, also from Conf USA

And all 4 of these schools are headed to American Athletic Conference July 1, 2023

Charlotte
North Texas
UAB
FAU

What great timing for the AAC

That’s insane Ramster !!

[Jdrums#3]

Could we see a day when the NCAA tourney is comprised only of P5 schools, and the NIT is for everyone else?

Just like FBS and FCS for football.

Of course I hope not, but you never know. If the P5's break away, it or something like it could happen.

Bone, Fwiw, I don’t believe they want an imminent sudden break.

I think, unintentionally or intentionally - depending on my daily level of P5 paranoia or adherence to P5 conspiracies - the P5 are being patient and playing a financial battle of attrition against non-P5 conferences. I don’t think this strategy will get them to 100% domination of the NCAAT because the BE, other select non-P5 conferences and/or select programs within non-P6 conferences that are NCAAT committed and goal oriented, will adapt to slow the P5 progression of NCAAT dominance for awhile.

However, If I am thinking from a P5 point of view and I want to maximize my basketball revenue (because they hunger for more and more money) and dominate the NCAAT/March Madness brand, I am taking this patient, war of attrition approach for now to further separate from or weaken my competition. Then, I would look to overcome my next closest non-P5 enemy (the P6 Big East) by picking off their members by substantially offering them more money and a better basketball opportunity or run the risk of being NCAAT marginalized due to my growing financial dominance as other non-P6 basketball programs surrender due to excessive, continuing financial bb program pressures.

At that point I (the P5) am the only one left standing and have dominion over the NCAAT and thus relegating those I deem unworthy to compete with me to the NIT.

Of course, I could be completely wrong due to over-emphasizing my bias of viewing college basketball in the same military minded way I view other sports, business, diplomacy and economics - as a form of war by other less violent means. As an aside, I think my military mindset bias is probably due to watching the movie Patton, with George C. Scott, too often growing up because I never served in the military (btw, it is still one of my all-time favorite movies).

Or, I could be wrong due to an over active imagination.

Anyway, I appreciate your post as I enjoy these type of speculations. It reminds me of chess but with the P5 vs the non-P5.

Thanks, Bone.

ETA: oooph. I have too much time on my hands or KB is sending me over the edge.

[ramster]

North Texas defeats Alabama Birmingham 68-61 to win the NIT tonight in Las Vegas

[reef]

Ugh I picked UAB !! Good win UNT

[ramster]

Ugh I picked UAB !! Good win UNT

Guards Tyson Brown UNT vs Jelly Walker UAB were fun to watch

[steviep123]

North Texas defeats Alabama Birmingham 68-61 to win the NIT tonight in Las Vegas

"Old man yells at cloud" moment - game didn't start until like 9:45 so I barely made it to halftime. If I'm going to be up that late, it'll be Monday for the Natty.

Here's a fun one - back in 2010, I fell asleep on my couch watching Duke vs. Butler for the 'ship. I dreamt that Butler won on a buzzer beater. Woke up with about a minute left and it nearly freaking happened.

[reef]

Who could forget Gordon Hayward half court heave that drew iron for the win ??