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RhodyKyle wrote: 1 year ago
SmartyBarrett wrote: 1 year ago
I know the rule is that a school has 48 hours to get the kid in the portal after being notified by the kid of their wish to transfer. Is the 11th the deadline to actually get into the portal or the deadline to notify the school of the intent to transfer?
I believe it's the deadline to actually get into the portal.
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SmartyBarrett wrote: 1 year ago
RhodyKyle wrote: 1 year ago
SmartyBarrett wrote: 1 year ago
I know the rule is that a school has 48 hours to get the kid in the portal after being notified by the kid of their wish to transfer. Is the 11th the deadline to actually get into the portal or the deadline to notify the school of the intent to transfer?
I believe it's the deadline to actually get into the portal.
The deadline to submit paperwork for immediate eligibility without needing a waiver is Thursday. The paperwork needs to be submitted by then but they may not be officially entered into the portal until the following week. Obviously you can still enter after that but you need a waiver
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Rhody walk on hitting the portal

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Ramfan22 wrote: 1 year ago Rhody walk on hitting the portal

This is who Fanta was talking about, I think.

In all seriousness, all the best to Parnell. Hope he lands a scholly somewhere.
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The walk ons entering the portal and making formal announcements is peak 2023. Some self awareness guys.
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Who will be the first Ramette to enter the portal?
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Rhody the Ram has entered the portal.
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Say it ain’t so!

Frickin’ portal !
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Lov 22 has entered the portal!
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bigappleram wrote: 1 year ago The walk ons entering the portal and making formal announcements is peak 2023. Some self awareness guys.
I normally agree with you BAR and I agree with your general point. But I am not sure this has anything to do with Parnell. My understanding of the portal process is you submit your name and when you do that it is a public database that many people if not all have access to. I think they can do this and ask that other coaches do not contact them unless contacted by the player (not sure it stops their name from being publicized in the portal, not sure about that) but that is usually only done if someone knows where they are transferring to. I think is the formal way now to announce that you are transferring and there is no other way of doing it. The difference is now there is a formal database that someone can look at that has every transfer listed. I think Parnell is just letting coaches including D2 coaches as well that he is looking for a new school. If I am incorrect and he actually made a formal announcement, I stand corrected.
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Ramfan22 wrote: 1 year ago
SmartyBarrett wrote: 1 year ago
RhodyKyle wrote: 1 year ago

I know the rule is that a school has 48 hours to get the kid in the portal after being notified by the kid of their wish to transfer. Is the 11th the deadline to actually get into the portal or the deadline to notify the school of the intent to transfer?
I believe it's the deadline to actually get into the portal.
The deadline to submit paperwork for immediate eligibility without needing a waiver is Thursday. The paperwork needs to be submitted by then but they may not be officially entered into the portal until the following week. Obviously you can still enter after that but you need a waiver
Thank you, Smarty and Ramfan!
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4Diffs wrote: 1 year ago
bigappleram wrote: 1 year ago The walk ons entering the portal and making formal announcements is peak 2023. Some self awareness guys.
I normally agree with you BAR and I agree with your general point. But I am not sure this has anything to do with Parnell. My understanding of the portal process is you submit your name and when you do that it is a public database that many people if not all have access to. I think they can do this and ask that other coaches do not contact them unless contacted by the player (not sure it stops their name from being publicized in the portal, not sure about that) but that is usually only done if someone knows where they are transferring to. I think is the formal way now to announce that you are transferring and there is no other way of doing it. The difference is now there is a formal database that someone can look at that has every transfer listed. I think Parnell is just letting coaches including D2 coaches as well that he is looking for a new school. If I am incorrect and he actually made a formal announcement, I stand corrected.
You're right Diffs, and while Parnell didn't do it I have seen some more robust announcements that are cringe worthy.
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Parnell has a highlight video. No, I'm not kidding.

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Billyboy78 wrote: 1 year ago Parnell has a highlight video. No, I'm not kidding.

Love the on court instruction by the staff , very engaged
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reef wrote: 1 year ago
Billyboy78 wrote: 1 year ago Parnell has a highlight video. No, I'm not kidding.

Love the on court instruction by the staff , very engaged



Nice stroke from 3 but….how’s the level of competition?

Ooops! Never mind. :lol:
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Hey, more power to him. He's probably thinking, if Bassy can get Albany, I could at least get a Div 2 scholaship.
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79RhodyFan wrote: 1 year ago Lov 22 has entered the portal!
Anyone checked in with EZ Buckets? Does he need to be re-recruited? Yorke?
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Always Wright’s teammate on the All Name Team.
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SmartyBarrett wrote: 1 year ago

Always Wright’s teammate on the All Name Team.
Sorry, I already have that moniker and I'm not going anywhere.
ETA: How can a guy have the name "Supreme Cook", average 13 ppg, and be a nohehoh?
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He would be another solid 1-year loaner.
He was a previous 4* top 100 recruit.
Only played 13 games (started 9) freshman year at SLU (2018-2019) averaged 9 pts.

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Jersey77 wrote: 1 year ago He would be another solid 1-year loaner.
He was a previous 4* top 100 recruit.
Only played 13 games (started 9) freshman year at SLU (2018-2019) averaged 9 pts.

Oh man I thought I recognized that name.

Kid has to be almost 30 years old!
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I can't believe he still has eligibility left.
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SmartyBarrett wrote: 1 year ago I can't believe he still has eligibility left.
Yeah second thought, I would probably pass on him.
I think he has a long history of discipline problems.

Has already been to 4 schools including Juco and only played in 35 Div.1 games.
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Jersey77 wrote: 1 year ago He would be another solid 1-year loaner.
He was a previous 4* top 100 recruit.
Only played 13 games (started 9) freshman year at SLU (2018-2019) averaged 9 pts.

Yeah no way Jersey. He’s had a litany of issues.
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bigappleram wrote: 1 year ago
Yeah no way Jersey. He’s had a litany of issues.
I agree, too bad waste of talent.

I think out of HS he was ranked #75 and Kansas was involved.
Decided to stay home at SLU, which didn't work out well.
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Hmm that career arc sounds familiar (minus the issues)
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Huge addition for Slick Rick

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Jersey77 wrote: 1 year ago Huge addition for Slick Rick

His dad played for UMASS. Dana Dingle.
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St. Johns is gonna be good. Soon.
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Agreed, Bred.

And I will add for two reasons (primary reasons amongst other reasons), imho: more NIL $’s to spend; relevancy.

There are other reasons, of course, like playing time, resources, etc.

These things give programs like SJU the ability to get good quicker, I think. But, we will get better - like we always have - it will take longer and be done differently, however, by adapting and overcoming.
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You missed the actual reason tho, Pitino.
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Not really. I just didn’t mention him directly because I don’t consider him primary. But he is important - as any other coach with his natty’s, track-record of success and experience would be. Other coaches with his stature - which I believe SJU could attract - would do what he is doing, IMO.

I don’t have an issue with your suggestion. I just don’t give him personally the same weight.
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Jdrums#3 wrote: 1 year ago Not really. I just didn’t mention him directly because I don’t consider him primary. But he is important - as any other coach with his natty’s, track-record of success and experience would be. Other coaches with his stature - which I believe SJU could attract - would do what he is doing, IMO.

I don’t have an issue with your suggestion. I just don’t give him personally the same weight.
I mean, he’s the primary, secondary, and every reason St John’s will be very good, very soon.

Have you seen them the last decade?

Below average to average every season.
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Pitino is EVERY reason....EVERY!!
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Like it or lump it he’d have done the exact same thing here.

Indisputable.
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NIL is the ultimate boogeyman. SJU's resources besides renting out MSG are considered amongst the worst in the BE.
Did he reinvigorate Repole and the SJU boosters, yes of course. Easier to fundraise for NIL, sure.
But the reason they will turn around and be good next year is only bc of Pitino. Those other things are table stakes.
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Rhody15 wrote: 1 year ago
Jdrums#3 wrote: 1 year ago Not really. I just didn’t mention him directly because I don’t consider him primary. But he is important - as any other coach with his natty’s, track-record of success and experience would be. Other coaches with his stature - which I believe SJU could attract - would do what he is doing, IMO.

I don’t have an issue with your suggestion. I just don’t give him personally the same weight.
I mean, he’s the primary, secondary, and every reason St John’s will be very good, very soon.

Have you seen them the last decade?

Below average to average every season.
Yes I have seen the last decade,15. I haven’t just crawled out from under a rock. I had a life and awareness before joining KB last year.

Put Jay Wright there or another natty level coach and it would be the same.

I don’t consider him the primary reason. Just my opinion. Plus they haven’t played a game yet so we are putting the cart before the horse, anyway.

ETA: The Rick sure gets people posting around here.
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Jdrums#3 wrote: 1 year ago
Rhody15 wrote: 1 year ago
Jdrums#3 wrote: 1 year ago Not really. I just didn’t mention him directly because I don’t consider him primary. But he is important - as any other coach with his natty’s, track-record of success and experience would be. Other coaches with his stature - which I believe SJU could attract - would do what he is doing, IMO.

I don’t have an issue with your suggestion. I just don’t give him personally the same weight.
I mean, he’s the primary, secondary, and every reason St John’s will be very good, very soon.

Have you seen them the last decade?

Below average to average every season.
Yes I have seen the last decade,15. I haven’t just crawled out from under a rock. I had a life and awareness before joining KB last year.

Put Jay Wright there or another natty level coach and it would be the same.

I don’t consider him the primary reason. Just my opinion. Plus they haven’t played a game yet so we are putting the cart before the horse, anyway.

ETA: The Rick sure gets people posting around here.
Then can you explain the primary reasons you think St John’s will be very good soon?

And yea man, if you put Jay Wright or another national champion coach there, that coach would be the primary reason SJU would be real good, real fast.
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15, I really don’t need to explain anything to you. Just go read my original post to see my primary reasons. My two primary reasons are there for you to read to your hearts content.

He’s (Pitino) an excellent coach in a very good situation: A P6 program that is hungry to win again and will do whatever it takes and give him whatever he wants. He’s an important piece but not unique.

He isn’t stupid. That’s why he took the job - because he knows they are hungry and will do his bidding - whatever that entails above board or below it. Perfect spot for a grifter.
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Jdrums#3 wrote: 1 year ago 15, I really don’t need to explain anything to you. Just go read my original post to see my primary reasons.

He’s (Pitino) an excellent coach in a very good situation: A P6 program that is hungry to win again and will do whatever it takes and give him whatever he wants. He’s an important piece but not unique.

He isn’t stupid. That’s why he took the job - because he knows they are hungry and will do his bidding.
…alright man, no need to get salty. You don’t “need” to explain anything, we were just having a conversation and I asked a question.

You said NIL is a primary reason, but without Pitino, the increased NIL doesn’t come.

Without Pitino, the added resources, national exposure/relevancy, better recruits, don’t come.

It all comes back to Pitino being the primary and sole reason St John’s will become good.
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I am not being salty. I simply directed you to to my initial post where I listed two primary reasons: NIL $’s and relevancy.

I did not say which was more important. Neither did I define relevancy. The Rick helps make them relevant.

I don’t get the love - for lack of a better word - for Pitino on this board.

Also, how do you know that without Pitino the NIL doesn’t come? Isn’t it just as likely the big boosters had had enough and out of desperation were going to give any other coach with a winning track record the ability to buy a winning team.
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Jdrums#3 wrote: 1 year ago I am not being salty. I simply directed you to to my initial post where I listed two primary reasons: NIL $’s and relevancy.

I did not say which was more important. Neither did I define relevancy. The Rick helps make them relevant.

I don’t get the love - for lack of a better word - for Pitino on this board.

Also, how do you know that without Pitino the NIL doesn’t come? Isn’t it just as likely the big boosters had had enough and out of desperation were going to give any other coach with a winning track record the ability to buy a winning team.
Love him or hate him, Pitino is one of the greatest basketball coaches of all time. It’s just a fact. Don’t know why people downplay that.


In your scenario, if another coach with a Pitino like track record came aboard, then more NIL would follow. More resources, relevancy, etc would follow. Then, that coach would be the primary reason ST John’s would get good.

College programs’ success hinges mostly on the head coach. It’s been that way for a while and I don’t see that changing.
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First, I never said he wasn’t a great coach. I don’t know why posters feel the need to defend him when someone doesn’t kiss his ring.

Second, imo I am not so sure college program success hinges on the coach as much as it once did as you state above. I think it may be evolving away from that and hinge on boosters prepared to buy talent to get to Final Four’s, get to the final two, win Natty.

They (wealthy determined and desperate boosters) will be able to buy a new winning team every year unless regulated somehow.
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Wow....that there is any debate at all about why the Johnnies are going to be good (it's 100% The Rick) is hilarious. I couldn't read all the posts because I couldn't believe there had to be more than one. You do not have to be a rocket surgeon to figure this out....
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NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 year ago Wow....that there is any debate at all about why the Johnnies are going to be good (it's 100% The Rick) is hilarious. I couldn't read all the posts because I couldn't believe there had to be more than one. You do not have to be a rocket surgeon to figure this out....
Thank you.

It couldn’t be more obvious. 10000% because of Pitino and only Pitino.

Twilight Zone vibes thinking it’s anything else.
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NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 year ago Wow....that there is any debate at all about why the Johnnies are going to be good (it's 100% The Rick) is hilarious. I couldn't read all the posts because I couldn't believe there had to be more than one. You do not have to be a rocket surgeon to figure this out....

we were so right about slick Rick !

What a GREAT COACH
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Ramfan22 wrote: 1 year ago
Wow played in 2016 and possibly in 2024 !!
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reef wrote: 1 year ago
Ramfan22 wrote: 1 year ago
Wow played in 2016 and possibly in 2024 !!
Will be his 8th year in school, 4 at Harvard and 3 at Ohio State. Will be 26 when the season starts.
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Billyboy78 wrote: 1 year ago
reef wrote: 1 year ago
Ramfan22 wrote: 1 year ago
Wow played in 2016 and possibly in 2024 !!
Will be his 8th year in school, 4 at Harvard and 3 at Ohio State. Will be 26 when the season starts.
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