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2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:46 pm
by ATPTourFan
We have moved on to 2023 but the Carousel never stops turning!
Jersey77 wrote:Chris Beard is most likely gone, along with his HC career at least for the near future or until this blows over.
Maybe Texas wishes Shaka was still there.
Jeff Borzello of ESPN wrote about this development:
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... hris-beard

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:57 pm
by Jersey77
Texas has very deep pockets, there will be no shortage of qualified candidates.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:00 pm
by reef
He was fired with cause so Texas doesn’t have to pay him correct ??

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:04 pm
by Jdrums#3
Who’s on their radar?

No duckin’ Texas?????

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:03 pm
by RhodyKyle
reef wrote: 1 year ago He was fired with cause so Texas doesn’t have to pay him correct ??
Depends on how "cause" is defined in his contract. The significant other recanting and declining to press charges muddies the waters a bit now.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:39 pm
by adam914
Here's to hoping this is not a carousel we need to ride again any time soon!

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:56 pm
by NYGFan_Section208
reef wrote: 1 year ago He was fired with cause so Texas doesn’t have to pay him correct ??
I'm thinking pockets are so big at Texas....does it really matter?
For most, paying a bunch of extra millions of $$ might give one cause to pause. I just don't believe it's a factor at Texas.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:41 pm
by reef
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 year ago
reef wrote: 1 year ago He was fired with cause so Texas doesn’t have to pay him correct ??
I'm thinking pockets are so big at Texas....does it really matter?
For most, paying a bunch of extra millions of $$ might give one cause to pause. I just don't believe it's a factor at Texas.
They do have deep deep pockets will be interesting to see who gets that job next season

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:52 pm
by Cameron_Dollar
reef wrote: 1 year ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 year ago
reef wrote: 1 year ago He was fired with cause so Texas doesn’t have to pay him correct ??
I'm thinking pockets are so big at Texas....does it really matter?
For most, paying a bunch of extra millions of $$ might give one cause to pause. I just don't believe it's a factor at Texas.
They do have deep deep pockets will be interesting to see who gets that job next season
Richard Pitino? He's been successful at New Mexico.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:50 am
by Rhode_Island_Red
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 year ago
reef wrote: 1 year ago He was fired with cause so Texas doesn’t have to pay him correct ??
I'm thinking pockets are so big at Texas....does it really matter?
For most, paying a bunch of extra millions of $$ might give one cause to pause. I just don't believe it's a factor at Texas.
They could probably hire anyone they want with just the loose change from the football couch.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:26 am
by RhodyKyle
Cameron_Dollar wrote: 1 year ago
reef wrote: 1 year ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: 1 year ago

I'm thinking pockets are so big at Texas....does it really matter?
For most, paying a bunch of extra millions of $$ might give one cause to pause. I just don't believe it's a factor at Texas.
They do have deep deep pockets will be interesting to see who gets that job next season
Richard Pitino? He's been successful at New Mexico.
Or throw a brinks truck at Kelvin Sampson?

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:25 am
by ramster

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:57 pm
by Jdrums#3
None of the names seem like home runs, imho. Maybe the coaching cupboard is sparse this year or it’s just too early?

No #whoduckin’ Ed?

Big Ed for the big state of Texas. Sounds like a natural to me.

I say send Grasso down there - just for the shits and giggles value. I’d enjoy it. Great TV. :lol:

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:28 pm
by Blue Man
Jdrums#3 wrote: 1 year ago None of the names seem like home runs, imho. Maybe the coaching cupboard is sparse this year or it’s just too early?

No #whoduckin’ Ed?

Big Ed for the big state of Texas. Sounds like a natural to me.

I say send Grasso down there - just for the shits and giggles value. I’d enjoy it. :lol:
I can’t imagine there will be any “Ed Cooley to anywhere” rumors at this point.

He’s making easily in the top 5% of coaches, at home, has a lifetime contract, will probably have a statue, a national COY, and has no problem recruiting NBA caliber talent for tourney runs.

Last year was expected imo, he had a team of 23 year olds. This year might be a better coaching job, potentially his best.

He could be a name some schools would want to poach, but PC won’t let him go anywhere and I’m sure at this point he doesn’t want to.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:42 pm
by Jdrums#3
Damn, BM. How’s anyone supposed to stir the rumor mill with these well reasoned posts populating KB.

Gosh darn it! Where’s the Vault when you need him ?! Still have another 24 plus hours to kill until the next Rhody game and I got nothin’!

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:34 pm
by reef
RhodyKyle wrote: 1 year ago
Cameron_Dollar wrote: 1 year ago
reef wrote: 1 year ago

They do have deep deep pockets will be interesting to see who gets that job next season
Richard Pitino? He's been successful at New Mexico.
Or throw a brinks truck at Kelvin Sampson?
I like that call

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:31 am
by Rhodymob05

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:25 am
by Rhody15
Rhodymob05 wrote: 1 year ago Slick Rick and Cooley mentioned.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... town-fixed
I know he doesn’t work for them anymore, but Jeff Goodman has been pushing Cooley to Georgetown for a couple years now. Says it’s a Top 10 job in America.

Just can’t see that making sense for Cooley at all.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:30 am
by UCH21377
Cooley would be crazy to move anywhere. Georgetown a top ten job? Maybe 30 years ago.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:34 am
by rjv
Cooley is not going anywhere... He has the keys to the State and all the unknown perks at PC make him a CFL!

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:34 am
by ramster
Rhodymob05 wrote: 1 year ago Slick Rick and Cooley mentioned.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... town-fixed

Could the answer be Rick Pitino? He likely has one more big job in him before retiring, and he's proven at Iona that he's still arguably the best basketball coach of his generation. A call to Providence's Ed Cooley is also worth a shot. He's done an incredible job with the Friars and -- perhaps more importantly for the sake of this discussion -- developed a relationship with the late Big John over the course of his career. --Jeff Borzello

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:09 pm
by Jersey77
ramster wrote: 1 year ago
Rhodymob05 wrote: 1 year ago Slick Rick and Cooley mentioned.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... town-fixed

Could the answer be Rick Pitino? He likely has one more big job in him before retiring, and he's proven at Iona that he's still arguably the best basketball coach of his generation. A call to Providence's Ed Cooley is also worth a shot. He's done an incredible job with the Friars and -- perhaps more importantly for the sake of this discussion -- developed a relationship with the late Big John over the course of his career. --Jeff Borzello
I think Borzello is losing his mind if he thinks Cooley would have any interest in ever leaving PC for Georgetown, if Ewing is let go.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:26 pm
by reef
I will be highly surprised if Cools or Slick Rick is the next Gtown coach

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:37 pm
by SGreenwell
I agree that Cooley to Georgetown doesn't really make any sense. That seems like a lateral move, or worse - Way higher expectations, but not necessarily any better resources to accomplish them. As long as PC keeps bumping his salary up, I don't see why he moves unless it's for a true "blue blood" kind of job. (Not that they're coming open any time soon, but, Kentucky, UNC, Duke, that kind of job.) Texas pays that way, but I think that's kind of like the Indiana job, where you're under pressure from day one to win and win big.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:35 am
by Rhody72
reef wrote: 1 year ago He was fired with cause so Texas doesn’t have to pay him correct ??
Money to buy out their current basketball coach or pay the buyout for their future coach is not an issue for a top FBS university. It is not even a consideration.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:17 pm
by Rhody15
SGreenwell wrote: 1 year ago I agree that Cooley to Georgetown doesn't really make any sense. That seems like a lateral move, or worse - Way higher expectations, but not necessarily any better resources to accomplish them. As long as PC keeps bumping his salary up, I don't see why he moves unless it's for a true "blue blood" kind of job. (Not that they're coming open any time soon, but, Kentucky, UNC, Duke, that kind of job.) Texas pays that way, but I think that's kind of like the Indiana job, where you're under pressure from day one to win and win big.

Texas basketball and Indiana basketball aren’t really close regarding expectations.

Indiana is a basketball school, always has been always will be. Instant pressure with that job.

Texas obviously will always be a football school. Not nearly as much pressure to win in basketball.

Shaka lasted 6 years with no tournament wins.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:32 pm
by jcru
I can't see Cooley leaving for D.C. or really anywhere outside of the RI/Mass/Conn tristate area. And since there are not many programs better than where he is currently at in this region, they are plenty safe.

I met his mom a few months back at my workplace. Not long before I saw Don Kaull. His entire life is here, he's not about to pick up and leave and go to some other corner of the country at this stage of his life unless he were to be forced out against his will. He might use these opportunities to advance his salary, however.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:55 pm
by SmartyBarrett
UCH21377 wrote: 1 year ago Cooley would be crazy to move anywhere. Georgetown a top ten job? Maybe 30 years ago.
Georgetown is an absolute tire fire right now. Why would Ed (or anyone, really) want to blow up what they have to go and try and fix that mess?

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:08 pm
by Cameron_Dollar
UCH21377 wrote: 1 year ago Cooley would be crazy to move anywhere. Georgetown a top ten job? Maybe 30 years ago.
PC has surpassed Georgetown and a number of other schools that were considered better jobs. The facilies are on the top of non football school lists. They are truly amazing. They have 4 or five local alumni doing a great job with the NIL and it pains me to say the former Dunk and now AMP offers a tremenous home court advantge(25-1) over last 26 games. And he has a veteran staff that is extremly loyal to him. And above all, has complete support from the entire administration. I don't think he's going anywhere unless Joe Mazzula flames out; And I certainly don't want or see that happening anytime soon.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:44 pm
by Rhodymob05
I would say Georgetown has the history, plus a larger home venue, fan base, they play in the Country's capital, and have a higher ceiling for success. It would take a pretty penny to get Cooley to DC though.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:52 pm
by Jersey77
Rhodymob05 wrote: 1 year ago I would say Georgetown has the history, plus a larger home venue, fan base, they play in the Country's capital, and have a higher ceiling for success. It would take a pretty penny to get Cooley to DC though.
Not happening.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:02 pm
by Blue Man
Are people actually considering that Ed Cooley - who effectively has a lifetime contract at PC, has produced a consistent winner, in a top basketball conference, is probably top 15 in current salary, and oh yeah...is literally coaching in his home town - would go anywhere?

He was literally the national COY last year. His stock at that point is the highest it's ever been or potentially could be. He's literally the reigning best coach in basketball. He took PC the furthest they've been in 2+ decades. He was also losing almost his whole team. If he was going to leave - it would've been then.

Instead, he renegotiated a presumed lifetime contract extension, recruited hard, and now has another NCAA team.

Ed Cooley is a brand at this point. He's synonymous with PC.

This is like starting Bob Huggins to ________ rumors. It's not happening.

Cameron_Dollar nailed it. Like it or not PC has become a top 5 non-P5 job. To be honest - it's easily a top 40 job by itself, if not top 25 - just based on facilities/conference alone. For Ed? I don't even know if it's a job he could rank...it's literally his home town team. Their facilities are above the middle of the P5. They have boosters who will spend. I hate the AMP as an arena for most of their seating if you're not in the 100's on the court - but they fill it up and it gets loud. Why would he take on a rebuild? Why would he leave home? This is easily a top 3 or top 5 job for him - without any pressure to prove anything. The longer he stays the bigger his statue and the more streets they name after him in Providence.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:18 pm
by Jersey77

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:27 pm
by bigappleram
Rhodymob05 wrote: 1 year ago I would say Georgetown has the history, plus a larger home venue, fan base, they play in the Country's capital, and have a higher ceiling for success. It would take a pretty penny to get Cooley to DC though.
The only thing Georgetown has is Big John and the historic place it has had with black coaches. That is the only thing it has that PC doesn’t. And I don’t think the black coach legacy thing is enough to lure Cooley.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:29 pm
by ramster
Jersey77 wrote: 1 year ago
It is quite the job to be open during the season. Texas was ranked 6th last week, 10th this week.

Pretty unusual to have a Top 10 AP Ranked Team Job open up at midseason. The norm is the HC Job is open because the team is performing poorly - not in this case.

And then Kentucky opens up mid-season and then the dominoes continue to fall.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 12:56 am
by reef
ramster wrote: 1 year ago
Jersey77 wrote: 1 year ago
It is quite the job to be open during the season. Texas was ranked 6th last week, 10th this week.

Pretty unusual to have a Top 10 AP Ranked Team Job open up at midseason. The norm is the HC Job is open because the team is performing poorly - not in this case.

And then Kentucky opens up mid-season and then the dominoes continue to fall.
Wow actually makes sense , Cal been @ Kentucky for quite awhile I can see him being interested

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:19 am
by SGreenwell
FWIW, SI.com is now run by a trashy hedge fund company, so it's only slightly more trustworthy than those random "news sites" that churn out AI-generated articles. The linked article is SI repurposing some tweets from a 247 sports reporter, and boils down to "well someone from Texas contacted someone who knows Calipari," which, well, sure. I don't think it signifies any major smoke or momentum for this actually happening.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:42 am
by ramster
SGreenwell wrote: 1 year ago FWIW, SI.com is now run by a trashy hedge fund company, so it's only slightly more trustworthy than those random "news sites" that churn out AI-generated articles. The linked article is SI repurposing some tweets from a 247 sports reporter, and boils down to "well someone from Texas contacted someone who knows Calipari," which, well, sure. I don't think it signifies any major smoke or momentum for this actually happening.
BlackRock the biggest owner

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/08/11/bla ... rands.html

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 1:32 pm
by SGreenwell
ramster wrote: 1 year ago
SGreenwell wrote: 1 year ago FWIW, SI.com is now run by a trashy hedge fund company, so it's only slightly more trustworthy than those random "news sites" that churn out AI-generated articles. The linked article is SI repurposing some tweets from a 247 sports reporter, and boils down to "well someone from Texas contacted someone who knows Calipari," which, well, sure. I don't think it signifies any major smoke or momentum for this actually happening.
BlackRock the biggest owner

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/08/11/bla ... rands.html
They then licensed it to some company called Maven that does the day-to-day operation. You can read a delightful piece on their wonderfulness here, like employing Ron Borges as well as a 17-year-old they didn't properly vet.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 1:36 pm
by ATPTourFan
Wow what a story about Maven. Thanks for sharing, Steve.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:35 pm
by reef
ramster wrote: 1 year ago
Jersey77 wrote: 1 year ago
It is quite the job to be open during the season. Texas was ranked 6th last week, 10th this week.

Pretty unusual to have a Top 10 AP Ranked Team Job open up at midseason. The norm is the HC Job is open because the team is performing poorly - not in this case.

And then Kentucky opens up mid-season and then the dominoes continue to fall.
Kentucky lost as a 20 point favorite , maybe it is Cal last year @ Kentucky ??

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:45 pm
by Jersey77
"It's gotten so bad at Kentucky, even Wildcats fans are urging John Calipari to leave"
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... TD6-fSsEhB

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:54 pm
by reef
Jersey77 wrote: 1 year ago "It's gotten so bad at Kentucky, even Wildcats fans are urging John Calipari to leave"
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... TD6-fSsEhB
Wow 77 last nights lost was certainly shocking

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:49 pm
by Jdrums#3
I think UK fans are finally tired of him, his Shtick and he’s become too comfortable there, imho.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:43 pm
by reef
Jdrums#3 wrote: 1 year ago I think UK fans are finally tired of him, his Shtick and he’s become too comfortable there, imho.
Yup 14 years is a long time definitely can see Cal making a move

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:38 pm
by ramster
Jdrums#3 wrote: 1 year ago I think UK fans are finally tired of him, his Shtick and he’s become too comfortable there, imho.
Kornheiser asked Wilbon if he thought it was Calipari’s last year at Kentucky.
“I think it could, but more important than seeing it as his last year, I just privately — or not privately because I’m saying it — I hope it’s his last year,” Wilbon said. “John Calipari, with the transfer portal being what it is, and how it reshapes college sports particularly in college football and basketball — in other sports but particularly those — John Calipari, as great a coach as he is, as great a recruiter, attractor of talent, John Calipari is like a pop-up store.
“He could go any damn place in America, and he’s a northeastern guy largely, he could go anywhere and set up shop and in one season be in the tournament and be a threat to win the tournament.”



https://www.yahoo.com/news/michael-wilb ... 48182.html

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:45 pm
by Jdrums#3
I wonder who Georgetown will look at if they and Ewing decide to part ways?

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 6:53 am
by section(105)
Jdrums#3 wrote: 1 year ago I wonder who Georgetown will look at if they and Ewing decide to part ways?
I think there best move would be to look totally outside of and not connected to their past glory. Time for an outsider.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:55 am
by Blue Man
section(105) wrote: 1 year ago
Jdrums#3 wrote: 1 year ago I wonder who Georgetown will look at if they and Ewing decide to part ways?
I think there best move would be to look totally outside of and not connected to their past glory. Time for an outsider.
They're totally hiring Iverson :lol: :lol: :lol:

At least the pressers would be electric.

Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:00 am
by rambone 78
I can see Calipari leaving for Texas. It's gotten stale in Kentucky, and although he makes big money there, money is certainly no issue with Texas, they could make a massive offer for sure.