Big East Outlook

[Jersey77]

Should be 2 excellent games.

6:30 PM #11 UConn vs #6 Marquette FOX Sports 1
9:00 PM #24 Creighton vs #15 Xavier FOX Sports 1

[Jersey77]

[NYGFan_Section208]

Watch out for Cools and the Gang!

[ramster]

Watch out for Cools and the Gang!

Georgetown and St Johns will reload very quickly. Cooley and Pitino will get quality freshmen, transfers and grad transfers in year 1.

[ace]

I can’t wait to see what Cooley does or doesn’t do with current PC players. Take some with him and that hate fire is fueled even more.

[Rhody15]

I can’t wait to see what Cooley does or doesn’t do with current PC players. Take some with him and that hate fire is fueled even more.

Will be interesting if Hopkins/Carter want to transfer, especially to GT, and get a waiver to play immediately.

[Jdrums#3]

Ooph! That would be some epic melt down city stuff right there for PC fans if they transferred to GT. Where’s the popcorn and my lawn chair? That would be a heck of a show.

[JimSidd]

I can’t wait to see what Cooley does or doesn’t do with current PC players. Take some with him and that hate fire is fueled even more.

Will be interesting if Hopkins/Carter want to transfer, especially to GT, and get a waiver to play immediately.

I’ve been thinking the same thing regarding those two, but some reporter (maybe Rothstein) posted guidelines the NCAA recently sent to all schools regarding players that have already transferred and one item under a denial of waiver was a change in the head coach. If what I read is true, it seems like they’re trying to tighten up the waver process.

[Jdrums#3]

I just put on my conspiratorial hat…

Dan Gavitt must have pushed through at this time to save PC from losing players like Hopkins.

I would think it would make more sense to do this before the end of regular season and before the rush of players start entering the portal so players can make more informed decisions.

[ramster]

Rick Pitino wasting no time

https://nypost.com/2023/03/22/rick-piti ... ns-roster/

[Jdrums#3]

I just put on my conspiratorial hat…

Dan Gavitt must have pushed through at this time to save PC from losing players like Hopkins.

I would think it would make more sense to do this before the end of regular season and before the rush of players start entering the portal so players can make more informed decisions.

ETA: My bias got the best of me. Yikes. Don’t listen to this old guy spouting off conspiracies in the corner. Jersey set me straight: the update to the waivers was done by the NCAA this past January.

Thanks, Jersey. Carry on.

[Jersey77]

I just put on my conspiratorial hat…

Dan Gavitt must have pushed through at this time to save PC from losing players like Hopkins.

I would think it would make more sense to do this before the end of regular season and before the rush of players start entering the portal so players can make more informed decisions.

ETA: My bias got the best of me. Yikes. Don’t listen to this old guy spouting off conspiracies in the corner. Jersey set me straight: the update to the waivers was done by the NCAA this past January.

Thanks, Jersey. Carry on.

No problem JD, anytime I can help.

Two games on tap tonight involving the BE.

9:00 PM #15 Princeton vs #6 Creighton TBS
9:45 PM #3 Xavier vs #2 Texas CBS

[reef]

Pulling for Princeton, I love 15 seeds

[ramster]

Pulling for Princeton, I love 15 seeds

I dislike Big East Teams
Go Princeton and Longhorns

[Jersey77]

"Weekend Brunch: Why the top of the Big East will be defined by the 2023 NBA Draft Deadline"
https://collegehoopstoday.com/index.php ... -deadline/

[Jersey77]

The BE will be a wild west shootout for 23-24 and once again be one of the top conferences.
UConn, Creighton, Xavier, Marquette, and Villanova will all lead the way.
PC along with a new St. John's roster won't be far behind.
Matta also rebuilt the Butler roster, so the jury is out on them.
Georgetown should improve under Cooley.
SH and Depaul will pull up the rear.

[Jersey77]

Rothstein with 3 BE teams in the top 10.
UConn, Creighton, and Marquette are all loaded and capable of winning it all.
Beside them, both Xavier and Villanova are not far behind.
Also, look out for St. Johns with Pitino and a new roster.

[Jersey77]

Seton Hall Pirates
2023-2024 Overall Rank: #66
Conference Rank: #8 Big East

Key Returning Players:
Al-Amir Dawes, Senior, Guard, 12.6 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 1.7 apg
Kadary Richmond, Senior, Guard, 10.1 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 4.1 apg
Dre Davis, Senior, Guard, 9.6 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 0.7 apg
Jaquan Sanders, Sophomore, Guard, 2.3 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.4 apg

Key New Players:
Dylan Addae-Wusu, Senior, Guard, Transfer from St. John’s
Jaden Bediako, Senior, Center, Transfer from Santa Clara
Isaiah Coleman, Freshman, Guard
JaQuan Harris, Sophomore, Guard
Elijah Hutchins-Everett, Junior, Center, Transfer from Austin Peay
Sadraque NgaNga, Sophomore, Forward, Transfer from Boise State
David Tubek, Freshman, Forward

Projected Postseason Tournament: NIT
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/22051

UConn, Marquette, Creighton, Villanova, St. John's. Xavier, and PC are all loaded and can go to the Dance.

It will take time before Cooley can turn things around and contend in the BE.

[steviep123]

Not sure where else to put this, but I was hanging out with friends over the weekend and someone was saying how great and fun the Big East used to be with UConn, Villanova, Georgetown and St. John's. I started laughing - he questioned why. I said, "You do realize the teams you mentioned are all still currently in the Big East, right?"

[Jersey77]

Xavier basketball gets devastating injury update on key player
Story by Ryan Bologna •
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk ... r-AA1gugd3

With top player Freemantle (15 pts/8 rebs) probably out for the season along with another key returning player (F) Jerome Hunter out indefinitely with a heart issue that puts Xavier in a very thin situation up front.

I originally thought they would finish 6th BE just ahead of PC but now probably move the Friars up in front of them.

[Jersey77]

Big East basketball 2023-24 preseason tiers: Marquette, Creighton, UConn, Villanova load up with eye on title
The Big East is flat-out loaded with storylines galore and national championships contenders.
ISAAC TROTTER
Sep 19th, 8:36 AM
https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrhdbV ... yr2gHVNE4-

[NYGFan_Section208]

GO RED STORM!

[ramster]

GO RED STORM!

NYG,
Pitino kept 1 guy from last year's team - Joel Soriano

Rothstein has St Johns #23 Preseason

How long will it take Red Storm to complete Jellin? And how long to develop chemistry?

23. St. John's
Projected Starting 5:
G Daniss Jenkins
G Jordan Dingle
G RJ Luis
F Chris Ledlum
C Joel Soriano
Projected Bench: Simeon Wilcher, Drissa Traore, Cruz Davis, Sean Conway, Brady Dunlap, Naheim Alleyne, Zuby Ejiofor, Glenn Taylor Jr.
Key Newcomers: Daniss Jenkins (Iona), Cruz Davis (Iona), Sean Conway (VMI), RJ Luis (UMass), Glenn Taylor Jr. (Oregon State), Naheim Alleyne (UConn), Brady Dunlap, Jordan Dingle (Penn), Zuby Ejiofor (Kansas), Simeon Wilcher, Chris Ledlum (Harvard)

[NYGFan_Section208]

GO RED STORM!

NYG,
Pitino kept 1 guy from last year's team - Joel Soriano

Rothstein has St Johns #23 Preseason

How long will it take Red Storm to complete Jellin? And how long to develop chemistry?

23. St. John's
Projected Starting 5:
G Daniss Jenkins
G Jordan Dingle
G RJ Luis
F Chris Ledlum
C Joel Soriano
Projected Bench: Simeon Wilcher, Drissa Traore, Cruz Davis, Sean Conway, Brady Dunlap, Naheim Alleyne, Zuby Ejiofor, Glenn Taylor Jr.
Key Newcomers: Daniss Jenkins (Iona), Cruz Davis (Iona), Sean Conway (VMI), RJ Luis (UMass), Glenn Taylor Jr. (Oregon State), Naheim Alleyne (UConn), Brady Dunlap, Jordan Dingle (Penn), Zuby Ejiofor (Kansas), Simeon Wilcher, Chris Ledlum (Harvard)

Keeping at least that one guy is key...you know...for "consistency" and familiarity

[Jersey77]

GO RED STORM!

NYG,
Pitino kept 1 guy from last year's team - Joel Soriano

Rothstein has St Johns #23 Preseason

How long will it take Red Storm to complete Jellin? And how long to develop chemistry?

23. St. John's
Projected Starting 5:
G Daniss Jenkins
G Jordan Dingle
G RJ Luis
F Chris Ledlum
C Joel Soriano
Projected Bench: Simeon Wilcher, Drissa Traore, Cruz Davis, Sean Conway, Brady Dunlap, Naheim Alleyne, Zuby Ejiofor, Glenn Taylor Jr.
Key Newcomers: Daniss Jenkins (Iona), Cruz Davis (Iona), Sean Conway (VMI), RJ Luis (UMass), Glenn Taylor Jr. (Oregon State), Naheim Alleyne (UConn), Brady Dunlap, Jordan Dingle (Penn), Zuby Ejiofor (Kansas), Simeon Wilcher, Chris Ledlum (Harvard)

Keeping at least that one guy is key...you know...for "consistency" and familiarity

Yeah, when you have one of greatest coaches of all time currently at (BE) St. John's get some of the best transfers from the portal plus 5* freshman Simeon Wilcher, I guess talent trumps a lot of things.

Even at that many predict them to finish 5th behind, UConn, Creighton, Marquette, and Villanova.
Although still, no one doubts what Pitino is capable of doing.

[NYGFan_Section208]

NYG,
Pitino kept 1 guy from last year's team - Joel Soriano

Rothstein has St Johns #23 Preseason

How long will it take Red Storm to complete Jellin? And how long to develop chemistry?

23. St. John's
Projected Starting 5:
G Daniss Jenkins
G Jordan Dingle
G RJ Luis
F Chris Ledlum
C Joel Soriano
Projected Bench: Simeon Wilcher, Drissa Traore, Cruz Davis, Sean Conway, Brady Dunlap, Naheim Alleyne, Zuby Ejiofor, Glenn Taylor Jr.
Key Newcomers: Daniss Jenkins (Iona), Cruz Davis (Iona), Sean Conway (VMI), RJ Luis (UMass), Glenn Taylor Jr. (Oregon State), Naheim Alleyne (UConn), Brady Dunlap, Jordan Dingle (Penn), Zuby Ejiofor (Kansas), Simeon Wilcher, Chris Ledlum (Harvard)

Keeping at least that one guy is key...you know...for "consistency" and familiarity

Yeah, when you have on of greatest coaches of all time currently at (BE) St. John's get some of the best transfers from the portal plus 5* freshman Simeon Wilcher, I guess talent trumps a lot of things.

Even at that many predict them to finish 5th behind, UConn, Creighton, Marquette, and Villanova.
Although still, no one doubts what Pitino is capable of doing.

I'm just saying...keeping that one guy will help the Jel Factor.

[Jersey77]

Keeping at least that one guy is key...you know...for "consistency" and familiarity

Yeah, when you have one of greatest coaches of all time currently at (BE) St. John's get some of the best transfers from the portal plus 5* freshman Simeon Wilcher, I guess talent trumps a lot of things.

Even at that many predict them to finish 5th behind, UConn, Creighton, Marquette, and Villanova.
Although still, no one doubts what Pitino is capable of doing.

I'm just saying...keeping that one guy will help the Jel Factor.

Yep, one huge piece to keep (15 pts/12 rebs)

[NYGFan_Section208]

Yeah, when you have one of greatest coaches of all time currently at (BE) St. John's get some of the best transfers from the portal plus 5* freshman Simeon Wilcher, I guess talent trumps a lot of things.

Even at that many predict them to finish 5th behind, UConn, Creighton, Marquette, and Villanova.
Although still, no one doubts what Pitino is capable of doing.

I'm just saying...keeping that one guy will help the Jel Factor.

Yep, one huge piece to keep (15 pts/12 rebs)

Not sure he'll be a huge piece...mostly thinking about the continuity and jelling. I mean. if they had zero returning players....like, what a mess that would be....but now, they at least have a guy that's 'been there'...so they can all jel with him?

[ramster]

I'm just saying...keeping that one guy will help the Jel Factor.

Yep, one huge piece to keep (15 pts/12 rebs)

Not sure he'll be a huge piece...mostly thinking about the continuity and jelling. I mean. if they had zero returning players....like, what a mess that would be....but now, they at least have a guy that's 'been there'...so they can all jel with him?

St John's #37 In College Madness Preseason Poll, #7 Big East

Soriano the only returnee. Pitino has a large group to fight for the starting positions and playing time plus the Jel factor

[ramster]

I'm just saying...keeping that one guy will help the Jel Factor.

Yep, one huge piece to keep (15 pts/12 rebs)

Not sure he'll be a huge piece...mostly thinking about the continuity and jelling. I mean. if they had zero returning players....like, what a mess that would be....but now, they at least have a guy that's 'been there'...so they can all jel with him?

Or does he jel with them? Or some combo?

[NYGFan_Section208]

Yep, one huge piece to keep (15 pts/12 rebs)

Not sure he'll be a huge piece...mostly thinking about the continuity and jelling. I mean. if they had zero returning players....like, what a mess that would be....but now, they at least have a guy that's 'been there'...so they can all jel with him?

Or does he jel with them? Or some combo?

Ahh.... there's a twist....I have no idea...

[ramster]

Georgetown beat Wake Forest by 4 points Saturday in a secret scrimmage in DC
Jayden Epps was recruited by Cooley at PC but chose Illinois then transferred to Georgetown. Epps had 46 points vs Wake Forest!!

Epps shot:
15/24 FG
6/11 3FG
4 assists

[Jersey77]

Tyler Kolek picked Pre-Season BE POY.
Stephen Castle (UConn) picked BE FOY

[Rhody15]

Can’t see Xavier finishing ahead of PC as predicted. X already with two key season ending injuries.

[Jersey77]

Can’t see Xavier finishing ahead of PC as predicted. X already with two key season ending injuries.

I absolutely agree, at this point I might also put SH ahead of Xavier.

[reef]

Why didn’t Klingon play in the secret scrimmage?

[adam914]

Hurley must love being picked 3rd!!

[Rhody15]

Why didn’t Klingon play in the secret scrimmage?

Do you mean Clingan? (It’s spelled right there)

He’s injured.

[Jersey77]

Why didn’t Klingon play in the secret scrimmage?

Do you mean Clingan? (It’s spelled right there)

He’s injured.

He has a foot strain, expected to be back for the start of the season.

[NYGFan_Section208]

Why didn’t Klingon play in the secret scrimmage?

Do you mean Clingan? (It’s spelled right there)

He’s injured.

Klingon is way more fun....let's just always go with that.

[SGreenwell]

Oops, maybe don't pencil in St. John's for a tourney bid just yet. (But also, they were down 2 starters.)

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... exhibition

[SmartyBarrett]

[Jersey77]

Some good BE vs B10 games tonight.

Wisc. at PC 6:00 FS1
Marquette at Ill. 8:00 FS1
Iowa at Creighton 10:00 FS1

[Jersey77]

Some good BE vs B10 games tonight.

Wisc. at PC 6:00 FS1
Marquette at Ill. 8:00 FS1
Iowa at Creighton 10:00 FS1

The BE had a good night, winning all 3 of those games.

[DuneClub]

Of those three, Marquette had the good game with a road win. I didn't see it but Kolek had them in the lead pretty much from start to finish. I don't know how good UI is this season but they are usually very talented. They had a recent transfer problem.

[reef]

Marquette is ranked 4th wow !

[ramster]

Dismal day as the NBE went 1-5 on Friday and also 1-5 against the spread

Not a good for the NBE NET

Only Villanova won against the spread being favored by 6.5 and winning by 17 over David Cox. Maryland only scored 40 points. Richmond's Tyler Burton led Villanova