Ring of Honor
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 12:00 pm
Davidson has the same contingency and they wouldn't retire Steph's number for the longest time. They did end up retiring it but only after he completed his degree (I believe).Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 year ago I see that one of the requirements is that you have to be a graduate of URI. The greatest URI player of all time, Sly Williams, is not eligible because he had the unfortunate situation of being a first round draft pick of the NY Knicks after his junior season. C'mon, there has to be an exception in his case.
Let’s say he did graduate.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 year ago I see that one of the requirements is that you have to be a graduate of URI. The greatest URI player of all time, Sly Williams, is not eligible because he had the unfortunate situation of being a first round draft pick of the NY Knicks after his junior season. C'mon, there has to be an exception in his case.
Sly Williams shouldn't be eligible due to his time in prison:Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 year ago I see that one of the requirements is that you have to be a graduate of URI. The greatest URI player of all time, Sly Williams, is not eligible because he had the unfortunate situation of being a first round draft pick of the NY Knicks after his junior season. C'mon, there has to be an exception in his case.
Unlike many of you on this forum, I was fortunate to have seen Sly play all his games in Keaney. He arrived a mature basketball player able to dominate games when he was needed. His professional career and life have not gone as they may have. Others surely know more than I, but I think he became a victim of his poor childhood. I found this story. It may be worth a read. What I can say, is I believe Sly was the best player that I have ever seen play for URI.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 year agoSly Williams shouldn't be eligible due to his time in prison:Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 year ago I see that one of the requirements is that you have to be a graduate of URI. The greatest URI player of all time, Sly Williams, is not eligible because he had the unfortunate situation of being a first round draft pick of the NY Knicks after his junior season. C'mon, there has to be an exception in his case.
"In August 2002 he pleaded guilty to kidnapping charges after allegedly holding a woman captive for about 24 hours and threatening her with a knife in September 2001, and raping a second woman in January 2002. The cases were consolidated and Williams was charged with first-degree rape, sodomy and first-degree kidnapping. He was sentenced to up to five years in prison."
Sorry, that isn't someone who deserves to be honored by the University
I have no issue with this requirementBillyboy78 wrote: ↑1 year ago I see that one of the requirements is that you have to be a graduate of URI. The greatest URI player of all time, Sly Williams, is not eligible because he had the unfortunate situation of being a first round draft pick of the NY Knicks after his junior season. C'mon, there has to be an exception in his case.
Yeah, Jiggy is my all time favorite Ram. Unfortunately he passed a few years ago.Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑1 year ago The ‘78 team was a great team and played a big role in cementing me in as a Rhody fan. I will always be grateful to the players (and the coaching staff) from the ‘78 team for that and for the great Rhody basketball memories. And, Jiggy and Sly are some of the best Rhody players I have been fortunate to see play.
Very happy to see the players and teams from ‘88 and ‘98 being honored. Great to see the university moving forward on this. Great job by the administration. I hope they find a way to honor the ‘78 team even if some of the players do not meet the individual criteria.
That was sad news. Too young.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 year agoYeah, Jiggy is my all time favorite Ram. Unfortunately he passed a few years ago.Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑1 year ago The ‘78 team was a great team and played a big role in cementing me in as a Rhody fan. I will always be grateful to the players (and the coaching staff) from the ‘78 team for that and for the great Rhody basketball memories. And, Jiggy and Sly are some of the best Rhody players I have been fortunate to see play.
Very happy to see the players and teams from ‘88 and ‘98 being honored. Great to see the university moving forward on this. Great job by the administration. I hope they find a way to honor the ‘78 team even if some of the players do not meet the individual criteria.
Couldn’t agree more , I think it’s great they are starting with this well done URI
Can't they schedule it at a time where all 6 can make it? It's kind of stupid to honor someone if they're not there.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 year ago Tom Garrick has games with Vanderbilt's women's team 2/16 at Alabama and 2/19 against Kentucky, so he should be able to make at least the game if not both the dinner and game
Tyson unfortunately has games at Princeton Friday and at Penn Saturday that weekend, so he'd probably be questionable to attend at best. Hopefully the video they're producing for him will be played sometime during the night when Brown comes to town next month and he's given his ring then if he can't attend the February event
ARD has a game that Saturday at Alabama, so you'd have to think he's questionable at best to attend as well
One of the criteria is you had to have graduated from URI, so the only coach that would really fit the bill as someone who graduated from here and made a tournament as head coach would be Ernie Calverley, correct?
It's a tough situation. You want to do it as part of a game to maximize attendance for the ceremonies, but as long as these guys are coaching there are going to be scheduling conflicts. In theory you can do some kind of in season tournament to try and have all of the coaches around, but good luck convincing Georgia to play at URI even with ARD on staff and for him to be recognized as part of these ceremonies.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 year agoCan't they schedule it at a time where all 6 can make it? It's kind of stupid to honor someone if they're not there.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 year ago Tom Garrick has games with Vanderbilt's women's team 2/16 at Alabama and 2/19 against Kentucky, so he should be able to make at least the game if not both the dinner and game
Tyson unfortunately has games at Princeton Friday and at Penn Saturday that weekend, so he'd probably be questionable to attend at best. Hopefully the video they're producing for him will be played sometime during the night when Brown comes to town next month and he's given his ring then if he can't attend the February event
ARD has a game that Saturday at Alabama, so you'd have to think he's questionable at best to attend as well
Obviously lol. Freudian slip.ramster wrote: ↑1 year ago
You meant Silk, not Sly.
Best team of the 3 was Jack Kraft’s 1978 team.
To have 3 from 1988, 3 from 1998 and zero from 1978 is not equal.
Cutino transferred in. Sly played 3 years then went to the NBA. Sly came from a tough environment. He went to the NBA to help support his family. Best player ever at URI. He loves the University of Rhode Island.
To have zero representation from the 1978 team is sad.
Sly was sentenced to five years in prison for kidnapping. That's disqualifying, to say nothing of you need to have graduated and you need to be a member of the URI Hall of Fame. He didn't graduate, so he's not a member of the Hall of Fameramster wrote: ↑1 year ago
You meant Silk, not Sly.
Best team of the 3 was Jack Kraft’s 1978 team.
To have 3 from 1988, 3 from 1998 and zero from 1978 is not equal.
Cutino transferred in. Sly played 3 years then went to the NBA. Sly came from a tough environment. He went to the NBA to help support his family. Best player ever at URI. He loves the University of Rhode Island.
To have zero representation from the 1978 team is sad.
I agree with you about the off the court stuff disqualifying him. But the reason he didn't graduate was because he WAS the greatest player here ever. If he wasn't good enough to be an All-American and a first round draft pick, he would have graduated. So, he is actually ineligible (if you don't take into consideration the off the court stuff) from both the HOF and the ROH for being too good.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 year agoSly was sentenced to five years in prison for kidnapping. That's disqualifying, to say nothing of you need to have graduated and you need to be a member of the URI Hall of Fame. He didn't graduate, so he's not a member of the Hall of Fameramster wrote: ↑1 year ago
You meant Silk, not Sly.
Best team of the 3 was Jack Kraft’s 1978 team.
To have 3 from 1988, 3 from 1998 and zero from 1978 is not equal.
Cutino transferred in. Sly played 3 years then went to the NBA. Sly came from a tough environment. He went to the NBA to help support his family. Best player ever at URI. He loves the University of Rhode Island.
To have zero representation from the 1978 team is sad.
There was nothing stopping him from graduating in the 40 plus years since he left school other than himselfBillyboy78 wrote: ↑1 year agoI agree with you about the off the court stuff disqualifying him. But the reason he didn't graduate was because he WAS the greatest player here ever. If he wasn't good enough to be an All-American and a first round draft pick, he would have graduated. So, he is actually ineligible (if you don't take into consideration the off the court stuff) from both the HOF and the ROH for being too good.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 year agoSly was sentenced to five years in prison for kidnapping. That's disqualifying, to say nothing of you need to have graduated and you need to be a member of the URI Hall of Fame. He didn't graduate, so he's not a member of the Hall of Fameramster wrote: ↑1 year ago
You meant Silk, not Sly.
Best team of the 3 was Jack Kraft’s 1978 team.
To have 3 from 1988, 3 from 1998 and zero from 1978 is not equal.
Cutino transferred in. Sly played 3 years then went to the NBA. Sly came from a tough environment. He went to the NBA to help support his family. Best player ever at URI. He loves the University of Rhode Island.
To have zero representation from the 1978 team is sad.
So why should you have to graduate? Because a rule says so?RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 year agoThere was nothing stopping him from graduating in the 40 plus years since he left school other than himselfBillyboy78 wrote: ↑1 year agoI agree with you about the off the court stuff disqualifying him. But the reason he didn't graduate was because he WAS the greatest player here ever. If he wasn't good enough to be an All-American and a first round draft pick, he would have graduated. So, he is actually ineligible (if you don't take into consideration the off the court stuff) from both the HOF and the ROH for being too good.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 year ago
Sly was sentenced to five years in prison for kidnapping. That's disqualifying, to say nothing of you need to have graduated and you need to be a member of the URI Hall of Fame. He didn't graduate, so he's not a member of the Hall of Fame
Yes, in this case the rule says you have to have graduated and be a member of the URI Hall of Fame. Take that out. His character is disqualifying.ramster wrote: ↑1 year agoSo why should you have to graduate? Because a rule says so?RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 year agoThere was nothing stopping him from graduating in the 40 plus years since he left school other than himselfBillyboy78 wrote: ↑1 year ago
I agree with you about the off the court stuff disqualifying him. But the reason he didn't graduate was because he WAS the greatest player here ever. If he wasn't good enough to be an All-American and a first round draft pick, he would have graduated. So, he is actually ineligible (if you don't take into consideration the off the court stuff) from both the HOF and the ROH for being too good.
Yes, definitely one of my favorite players also.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 year ago Like I said before, I don't think that Jiggy graduated either. Not 100% sure about that. The poster here named rammgr would know. He was the team manager for those great 70s teams and good friends with Jiggy. It's a shame he's not in the HOF. Definitely in the top 10 - 15 of Rhody players that I've seen.
So take out the word honor.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 year agoYes, in this case the rule says you have to have graduated and be a member of the URI Hall of Fame. Take that out. His character is disqualifying.ramster wrote: ↑1 year agoSo why should you have to graduate? Because a rule says so?RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 year ago
There was nothing stopping him from graduating in the 40 plus years since he left school other than himself
Sorry, I get that you either grew up watching him or you were a student watching him play so you have an attachment I can't possibly have because he was done at URI before I was born. I can also appreciate that on his URI playing merits alone he belongs in the Ring of Honor. But that last word is important. Honor. This isn't just putting up a banner listing the top 5 scorers of all time in program history or top 10 field goal percentage in program history, this is bestowing an honor on someone for their whole body of work. For as good a player as Sly Williams might have been, he doesn't qualify for this honor
Absolutely. Stanley Wright.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 year ago At least bring in Stanley Wright to represent the '78 team. Not only was he a great player but one of the best representatives for the basketball program the school has ever had.
Looking forward to Pappy being named.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 year ago Looking ahead at the next guys that will probably be added to the Ring of Honor:
Chet Jaworski was a 1939 Consensus All-American as the nation's leading scorer, with the Helms Foundation naming him College Player of the Year.
Stan Stutz was a 1940 Helms All American, 1941 and 1942 Consensus Second Team All American, and led the nation in scoring in each of those three consecutive seasons. He played three seasons in the precursor of the NBA, and refereed for nine seasons in the NBA in more than 1000 games.
Bill Rutledge was Madison Square Garden Second Team All American in 1941 and 1942. In 41 we were co-Yankee Conference champions with UConn and in 1942 we were outright Yankee Conference champions.
Horace "Pappy" Owens was a 1983 AP Honorable Mention All American and first team All-Atlantic 10 player. The 1980-81 team he was on were co-regular season champions of the Eastern Athletic Association with Duquesne and were the number one seed in the conference tournament.
Jaworski, Stutz, Rutledge, and Owens are the four people that have received some type of All American status that would be eligible and I would make them next year's class to be added to the Ring of Honor.
Sly Williams doesn't qualify because they didn't graduate and aren't a member of the Hall of Fame. Also not eligible because they aren't in the URI Hall of Fame is Jimmy Baron. In 2009 they were Second Team Academic All American and Senior All-American, was 2006 A10 All-Freshman, 2009 All A10 First Team, with a significant international career. Still has the career program records for most 3 pointers made and free throw percentage
Bring his brother Jimmy with him, also an all-time great and a young member of that team.ramster wrote: ↑1 year agoAbsolutely. Stanley Wright.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 year ago At least bring in Stanley Wright to represent the '78 team. Not only was he a great player but one of the best representatives for the basketball program the school has ever had.
How you can have no representation from that team is bad.
And why should the Head Coach have to have been a URI Grad? Makes no sense.
Great, be a fan of that classless program. Tire Iron Barnes shouldn't be a member of any Hall of Fame and shouldn't be honored. I do appreciate PC helping make my point at leastramster wrote: ↑1 year ago Providence College Hall of Fame
Jimmy Walker - greatest player I have ever seen play in the State of Rhode Island. Not 100% sure he graduated
Marvin Barnes - hit his teammate 6’11” Larry Ketvertis with a tire iron. Don’t believe he graduated.
http://friarbasketball.com/providence-c ... hall-fame/
You give little consideration for where and how these kids grew up.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 year agoGreat, be a fan of that classless program. Tire Iron Barnes shouldn't be a member of any Hall of Fame and shouldn't be honored. I do appreciate PC helping make my point at leastramster wrote: ↑1 year ago Providence College Hall of Fame
Jimmy Walker - greatest player I have ever seen play in the State of Rhode Island. Not 100% sure he graduated
Marvin Barnes - hit his teammate 6’11” Larry Ketvertis with a tire iron. Don’t believe he graduated.
http://friarbasketball.com/providence-c ... hall-fame/
I think the more HOF worthy move was Marvin doing cocaine on the bench at the Garden.ramster wrote: ↑1 year ago Providence College Hall of Fame
Jimmy Walker - greatest player I have ever seen play in the State of Rhode Island. Not 100% sure he graduated
Marvin Barnes - hit his teammate 6’11” Larry Ketvertis with a tire iron. Don’t believe he graduated.
http://friarbasketball.com/providence-c ... hall-fame/
SLY. SPENT. TIME. IN. PRISON. FOR. KIDNAPPING.ramster wrote: ↑1 year agoYou give little consideration for where and how these kids grew up.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 year agoGreat, be a fan of that classless program. Tire Iron Barnes shouldn't be a member of any Hall of Fame and shouldn't be honored. I do appreciate PC helping make my point at leastramster wrote: ↑1 year ago Providence College Hall of Fame
Jimmy Walker - greatest player I have ever seen play in the State of Rhode Island. Not 100% sure he graduated
Marvin Barnes - hit his teammate 6’11” Larry Ketvertis with a tire iron. Don’t believe he graduated.
http://friarbasketball.com/providence-c ... hall-fame/
Jimmy Baron grew up in East Greenwich
Marvin went to Central High School
Sly went to Lee High School
Sly needed the money to support his mother and sisters/brothers. He went to the NBA skipping his Senior Year at URI.
Don’t blame him at all.
So he didn’t come back and get his degree. Most don’t.
Funny how we all want players like Sly and Lamar to come to URI but then if they don’t get the degree it’s “see ya”
Please don't ever compare Sly and Lamar again. That's disgusting.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 year agoSLY. SPENT. TIME. IN. PRISON. FOR. KIDNAPPING.ramster wrote: ↑1 year agoYou give little consideration for where and how these kids grew up.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 year ago
Great, be a fan of that classless program. Tire Iron Barnes shouldn't be a member of any Hall of Fame and shouldn't be honored. I do appreciate PC helping make my point at least
Jimmy Baron grew up in East Greenwich
Marvin went to Central High School
Sly went to Lee High School
Sly needed the money to support his mother and sisters/brothers. He went to the NBA skipping his Senior Year at URI.
Don’t blame him at all.
So he didn’t come back and get his degree. Most don’t.
Funny how we all want players like Sly and Lamar to come to URI but then if they don’t get the degree it’s “see ya”
Good lord, I don't care how tough your background is, when you're on a college campus it's ridiculously easy to not hit someone with a tire iron. It's ridiculously easy to not kidnap someone. The vast majority of people, from all conditions and walks of life literally do it everyday. It's so fucking easy that you actually have to go out of your way to suck so much that you do one of those things. Like, even average bad people don't do those things.. Please grow up, neither person should be honored by their respective universities