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Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years ago

sbrand wrote: ↑2 years ago My comparison could definitely be an overreach but let’s not include all-time greats in that list that were not heavily recruited. I just spent a half a day researching him and watching video that surprised me as to how great of a recruit we are getting. And he played against some of the best but Rhody fans know better than anyone how ratings at the end of the day really can mean very little until they perform at the next level. One thing is for sure, this kid has all the tools to become someone really special that can potentially take over a game.

Only time will tell.

Scott, I agree and nothing wrong with your enthusiasm about him.
Aside from some of the few blue-chip recruits it is always a gamble to see how these kids pan out.

I also have watched video on him and am also very familiar with SH growing up near their campus.

I was ecstatic with the Archie hire and almost as much with bringing in Duane Woodward.

Like I said Weston is capable of being special here (along with some of the other recruits) and am really looking forward to your interview with his HS coach.

STC wrote: ↑2 years ago I think it's important to consider who is doing the evaluating and development when trying to project these Top 100 recruits. Take Hurley for example, of the 4 Top 100 recruits he brought into URI, all had success - EC, Terrell, Kuran, Stan. Now, look at the 4 Top 100 recruits Cox brought in during his tenure - Harris, Mitchell Twins, Carey, all four failed to live up to expectations, especially Harris who flopped in a major way. I trust the talent evaluation Archie has done with Weston and Archie has shown the ability to develop kids at Dayton so my expectations are high for Weston. I think he will be a day 1 starter and a cornerstone for the rebuild.

As far as I can tell, Archie never brought in a Top 100 recruit during his time at Dayton, the highest rated being Dyshawn Pierre. Pierre was a four year starter for Archie and solid contributor from the start.

I'm hopeful Archie has found a four year starter in the mold of Dyshawn Pierre or Jared Terrell. Time will tell.

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 years ago If he had the potential to be the 2nd best player to ever play at URI, he'd be the star at Seton Hall (or better) for the next few years.

steveystuds06 wrote: ↑2 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 years ago If he had the potential to be the 2nd best player to ever play at URI, he'd be the star at Seton Hall (or better) for the next few years.

Plenty of people at Seton Hall thought he could be their star. He was their highest-ranked recruit in over 5 years. Then, he got hurt, and he moved on. But, that doesn't mean he loses all his potential. I'm not saying he will be our 2nd best player ever. But, honestly, players like Sly, Odom, Tyson, and Mobley are all exceptional in their own ways. I don't even bother with ranking them. They are all in that hall of fame tier that's very hard to reach.

Didn't we bring on Archie Miller to bring us to the next level? Didn't we bring on a coach like Archie so he could identify talented players that he can develop so they lead us to a bid and a run in the NCAA tournament like he did at Dayton? Didn't we decide that being mediocre isn't enough, and we will build a top staff, practice facility, and have charter flights? If you think Archie MIller isn't capable of landing a couple of recruits that could be all-time greats, I don't know what to tell you. I think he will, and I genuinely believe Weston is the first player with the upside to getting there. Or he could be a significant letdown like Jermaine Harris.... We don't know.

Remember what Archie said to Thorr when he called him? "I just want you to know that I'm getting more excited. I'm not coming there to be the top 3 in the A10. I'm coming there to win the damn thing and beat every other good program as well" That sounds like someone that believes he can land players that can make an impact like some of our former legends.

Here are some quotes from Seton Hall fans after Weston left.

"Disappointed we'll never get to see what Westin can do"

"Weston feels like a real loss although we haven't seen him on the court."

"It is what it is, but losing our best recruit since Whitehead can't be sugarcoated and dismissed."

"For all we know, Sha wanted to keep Weston. When he said initially he was staying, 100% of the board was happy about that. That doesn't mean he can't be replaced. But he was our highest-rated recruit in a while. I was looking forward to seeing him play."

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Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 years ago

steveystuds06 wrote: ↑2 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 years ago If he had the potential to be the 2nd best player to ever play at URI, he'd be the star at Seton Hall (or better) for the next few years.

Plenty of people at Seton Hall thought he could be their star. He was their highest-ranked recruit in over 5 years. Then, he got hurt, and he moved on. But, that doesn't mean he loses all his potential. I'm not saying he will be our 2nd best player ever. But, honestly, players like Sly, Odom, Tyson, and Mobley are all exceptional in their own ways. I don't even bother with ranking them. They are all in that hall of fame tier that's very hard to reach.

Didn't we bring on Archie Miller to bring us to the next level? Didn't we bring on a coach like Archie so he could identify talented players that he can develop so they lead us to a bid and a run in the NCAA tournament like he did at Dayton? Didn't we decide that being mediocre isn't enough, and we will build a top staff, practice facility, and have charter flights? If you think Archie MIller isn't capable of landing a couple of recruits that could be all-time greats, I don't know what to tell you. I think he will, and I genuinely believe Weston is the first player with the upside to getting there. Or he could be a significant letdown like Jermaine Harris.... We don't know.

Remember what Archie said to Thorr when he called him? "I want you to know that I'm getting more excited. I'm not coming there to be in the top 3 in the A10. I'm coming there to win the damn thing and beat every other good program as well" That sounds like someone that believes he can land players that can make an impact like some of our former legends.

Here are some quotes from Seton Hall fans after Weston left.

"Disappointed we'll never get to see what Westin can do"

"Weston feels like a real loss although we haven't seen him on the court."

"It is what it is, but losing our best recruit since Whitehead can't be sugarcoated and dismissed."

"For all we know, Sha wanted to keep Weston. When he said initially he was staying, 100% of the board was happy about that. That doesn't mean he can't be replaced. But he was our highest-rated recruit in a while. I was looking forward to seeing him play."

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I'm not saying he won't be a great player. Obviously I hope that he is. I think it's unfair to set expectations so high for the kid and say he's potentially the best player here in 45 years. I hope plays 4 years, breaks Silk's scoring record and leads us into deep runs in the NCAA tourney.

JimSidd wrote: ↑2 years ago I now take a wait and see approach on all prep recruits and transfers since the Jermaine Harris experience.

steveystuds06 wrote: ↑2 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 years ago

steveystuds06 wrote: ↑2 years ago

Plenty of people at Seton Hall thought he could be their star. He was their highest-ranked recruit in over 5 years. Then, he got hurt, and he moved on. But, that doesn't mean he loses all his potential. I'm not saying he will be our 2nd best player ever. But, honestly, players like Sly, Odom, Tyson, and Mobley are all exceptional in their own ways. I don't even bother with ranking them. They are all in that hall of fame tier that's very hard to reach.

Didn't we bring on Archie Miller to bring us to the next level? Didn't we bring on a coach like Archie so he could identify talented players that he can develop so they lead us to a bid and a run in the NCAA tournament like he did at Dayton? Didn't we decide that being mediocre isn't enough, and we will build a top staff, practice facility, and have charter flights? If you think Archie MIller isn't capable of landing a couple of recruits that could be all-time greats, I don't know what to tell you. I think he will, and I genuinely believe Weston is the first player with the upside to getting there. Or he could be a significant letdown like Jermaine Harris.... We don't know.

Remember what Archie said to Thorr when he called him? "I want you to know that I'm getting more excited. I'm not coming there to be in the top 3 in the A10. I'm coming there to win the damn thing and beat every other good program as well" That sounds like someone that believes he can land players that can make an impact like some of our former legends.

Here are some quotes from Seton Hall fans after Weston left.

"Disappointed we'll never get to see what Westin can do"

"Weston feels like a real loss although we haven't seen him on the court."

"It is what it is, but losing our best recruit since Whitehead can't be sugarcoated and dismissed."

"For all we know, Sha wanted to keep Weston. When he said initially he was staying, 100% of the board was happy about that. That doesn't mean he can't be replaced. But he was our highest-rated recruit in a while. I was looking forward to seeing him play."

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I'm not saying he won't be a great player. Obviously I hope that he is. I think it's unfair to set expectations so high for the kid and say he's potentially the best player here in 45 years. I hope plays 4 years, breaks Silk's scoring record and leads us into deep runs in the NCAA tourney.

I agree… That’s way too high of expectations for any player that hasn’t played a second. My point is that I think Archie will land some players that will lead us to some of the biggest wins in the history of our program, and those players will become legends like Sly, Tyson, Kenny Green, Hass, etc..

RamStock wrote: ↑2 years ago

steveystuds06 wrote: ↑2 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 years ago

I'm not saying he won't be a great player. Obviously I hope that he is. I think it's unfair to set expectations so high for the kid and say he's potentially the best player here in 45 years. I hope plays 4 years, breaks Silk's scoring record and leads us into deep runs in the NCAA tourney.

I agree… That’s way too high of expectations for any player that hasn’t played a second. My point is that I think Archie will land some players that will lead us to some of the biggest wins in the history of our program, and those players will become legends like Sly, Tyson, Kenny Green, Hass, etc..

I think you are jumping way ahead of everything. For people to think these players that Archie brought in will lead them to the tourney next year or might be the some of the greatest in history is crazy. Most people on the board are excited for the future and it has a much better feel than it did with Cox, but I am expecting a lot of ups and downs next year with both players will little experience and returning players that were far from great players. Weston and Freeman are great gets to build the program around for the rebuild, but let the guys get on the court before any comparisons. I thought Jermaine Harris was going to be one of the best big men to ever play at URI. That didn't work out.

RamStock wrote: ↑2 years ago

steveystuds06 wrote: ↑2 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑2 years ago

I'm not saying he won't be a great player. Obviously I hope that he is. I think it's unfair to set expectations so high for the kid and say he's potentially the best player here in 45 years. I hope plays 4 years, breaks Silk's scoring record and leads us into deep runs in the NCAA tourney.

I agree… That’s way too high of expectations for any player that hasn’t played a second. My point is that I think Archie will land some players that will lead us to some of the biggest wins in the history of our program, and those players will become legends like Sly, Tyson, Kenny Green, Hass, etc..

I think you are jumping way ahead of everything. For people to think these players that Archie brought in will lead them to the tourney next year or might be the some of the greatest in history is crazy.

bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago Underestimating continuity, chemistry.

Overestimating players hardly anyone has ever seen play a minute of D1 basketball (besides Bray).

I couldn’t be more excited about the Archie era but he’s not Houdini. It’s the Jimmys and the Joes not the Xs and the Os. We need more Jimmy and Joes before we are sniffing even the upper 1/3rd of the league.

rhodylaw wrote: ↑2 years ago

bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago Underestimating continuity, chemistry.

Overestimating players hardly anyone has ever seen play a minute of D1 basketball (besides Bray).

I couldn’t be more excited about the Archie era but he’s not Houdini. It’s the Jimmys and the Joes not the Xs and the Os. We need more Jimmy and Joes before we are sniffing even the upper 1/3rd of the league.

Continuity does not exist in college basketball anymore. Chemistry is important, but it is based on bringing in players who fit a system. We are going to be good.

Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 years ago

rhodylaw wrote: ↑2 years ago

bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago Underestimating continuity, chemistry.

Overestimating players hardly anyone has ever seen play a minute of D1 basketball (besides Bray).

I couldn’t be more excited about the Archie era but he’s not Houdini. It’s the Jimmys and the Joes not the Xs and the Os. We need more Jimmy and Joes before we are sniffing even the upper 1/3rd of the league.

Continuity does not exist in college basketball anymore. Chemistry is important, but it is based on bringing in players who fit a system. We are going to be good.

Uh, “bringing in players who fit a system” is literally the definition of chemistry.

Players + system = chemistry.

Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 years ago

rhodylaw wrote: ↑2 years ago

bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago Underestimating continuity, chemistry.

Overestimating players hardly anyone has ever seen play a minute of D1 basketball (besides Bray).

I couldn’t be more excited about the Archie era but he’s not Houdini. It’s the Jimmys and the Joes not the Xs and the Os. We need more Jimmy and Joes before we are sniffing even the upper 1/3rd of the league.

Continuity does not exist in college basketball anymore. Chemistry is important, but it is based on bringing in players who fit a system. We are going to be good.

Uh, “bringing in players who fit a system” is literally the definition of chemistry.

Players + system = chemistry.

rhodylaw wrote: ↑2 years ago

bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago Underestimating continuity, chemistry.

Overestimating players hardly anyone has ever seen play a minute of D1 basketball (besides Bray).

I couldn’t be more excited about the Archie era but he’s not Houdini. It’s the Jimmys and the Joes not the Xs and the Os. We need more Jimmy and Joes before we are sniffing even the upper 1/3rd of the league.

Continuity does not exist in college basketball anymore. Chemistry is important, but it is based on bringing in players who fit a system. We are going to be good.

bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago

rhodylaw wrote: ↑2 years ago

bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago Underestimating continuity, chemistry.

Overestimating players hardly anyone has ever seen play a minute of D1 basketball (besides Bray).

I couldn’t be more excited about the Archie era but he’s not Houdini. It’s the Jimmys and the Joes not the Xs and the Os. We need more Jimmy and Joes before we are sniffing even the upper 1/3rd of the league.

Continuity does not exist in college basketball anymore. Chemistry is important, but it is based on bringing in players who fit a system. We are going to be good.

Name a mid major school loaded with transfers and returning very little production that went to tourney last year? You may see that with the P5s that can pick and choose transfers and assemble a team like free agency but that isn’t and likely won’t be the case with mid majors. Experience and continuity will still matter at our level. Pretty sure Archie knows that and is why he said he doesn’t want to use the portal to build a championship roster.

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑2 years ago This environment is completely different from even last year. In this case, I'd suggest that the past is not an indicator of how it's going to work now.

I'm guessing that, probably this year, you will see a "mid major school loaded with transfers and returning very little production that goes to the tourney."

rhodylaw wrote: ↑2 years ago Pessimists rule the day I guess - I think we retained a solid group of guys from last year who can contribute right away and 1 in Jalen who I think will be a game changing type player when used properly. Martin and Ish are both very solid A10 players. Building around those three guys next year will look a lot better then last year, especially when they are used properly.

This is not a team loaded with transfers. To me we have added 1 transfer in Brayon and a JC recruit (Westin is really more akin to a red shirt freshmen recruit in my mind). We also have a very strong recruiting class of true freshmen - and another RS freshmen in Samb. We will be good very soon. Westin will be a big part of that. I expect a top half A10 finish, with the chance to move up higher based on a softer schedule.

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑2 years ago This environment is completely different from even last year. In this case, I'd suggest that the past is not an indicator of how it's going to work now.

I'm guessing that, probably this year, you will see a "mid major school loaded with transfers and returning very little production that goes to the tourney."

bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑2 years ago This environment is completely different from even last year. In this case, I'd suggest that the past is not an indicator of how it's going to work now.

I'm guessing that, probably this year, you will see a "mid major school loaded with transfers and returning very little production that goes to the tourney."

I’ll take that bet. Can we say returning less than 20% of their production from last year and starting at least 3 transfers?

sevegny7 wrote: ↑1 year ago

ElmCityRhody wrote: ↑1 year ago all these fools picking us10th
Please
Fools
and don’t get me started on people on this board forfeiting this season

Insulting

reef wrote: ↑1 year ago

sevegny7 wrote: ↑1 year ago

That’s a really good sign , he may be a huge weapon for us

LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑2 months ago This one is disappointing. I thought he was a spark plug off the bench and a hustling defender.

RF1 wrote: ↑3 weeks ago This does not look like a move for more NIL money.

Tenn St, of the Ohio Valley Conference, was 18-15 last season with a NET rank of #282. They averaged 1,521 in their 9,100 seat Gentry Complex. The program has only been to two D1 NCAA Tournaments - 1993 and 1994, as it had been D2 up until the 1978-79 season.

RF1 wrote: ↑3 weeks ago This does not look like a move for more NIL money.

Tenn St, of the Ohio Valley Conference, was 18-15 last season with a NET rank of #282. They averaged 1,521 in their 9,100 seat Gentry Complex. The program has only been to two D1 NCAA Tournaments - 1993 and 1994, as it had been D2 up until the 1978-79 season.

RF1 wrote: ↑3 weeks ago This does not look like a move for more NIL money.

Tenn St, of the Ohio Valley Conference, was 18-15 last season with a NET rank of #282. They averaged 1,521 in their 9,100 seat Gentry Complex. The program has only been to two D1 NCAA Tournaments - 1993 and 1994, as it had been D2 up until the 1978-79 season.

Rhody15 wrote: ↑3 weeks ago

RF1 wrote: ↑3 weeks ago This does not look like a move for more NIL money.

Tenn St, of the Ohio Valley Conference, was 18-15 last season with a NET rank of #282. They averaged 1,521 in their 9,100 seat Gentry Complex. The program has only been to two D1 NCAA Tournaments - 1993 and 1994, as it had been D2 up until the 1978-79 season.

I'm always a bit surprised when I see this random mid/low majors with arenas much better than ours.