Re: Assistants under Coach Miller 2022-23
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:44 pm
I feel like recruiting for one school, then leaving and taking the recruits should be illegal. They signed with the school, not the assistant coach.
Don't look at it like the recruit was 'taken'...the dude would just be exercising his rights to portal...early.Rhodymob05 wrote: ↑1 month ago I feel like recruiting for one school, then leaving and taking the recruits should be illegal. They signed with the school, not the assistant coach.
If the assistant is that important, the HC is not good enough.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 month agoDon't look at it like the recruit was 'taken'...the dude would just be exercising his rights to portal...early.Rhodymob05 wrote: ↑1 month ago I feel like recruiting for one school, then leaving and taking the recruits should be illegal. They signed with the school, not the assistant coach.
Kenny is known to be one of the top recruiters and top assistants in the country. He'll do much better at a school who has the money to get highly rated players.
From the results on the court in two seasons, it doesn't appear that he attracted a lot of talent to Kingston.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 month agoKenny is known to be one of the top recruiters and top assistants in the country. He'll do much better at a school who has the money to get highly rated players.
Who were Kenny Johnson’s Top 3 Recruits here?RF1 wrote: ↑1 month agoFrom the results on the court in two seasons, it doesn't appear that he attracted a lot of talent to Kingston.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 month agoKenny is known to be one of the top recruiters and top assistants in the country. He'll do much better at a school who has the money to get highly rated players.
The first one has yet to suit up for Rhody and may never do so if the rumors are true. The second one did not really contribute much in his short time here and was dismissed for being disruptive. Has since seen little playing time at Coastal Carolina. Both may have talent that never manifested itself in Kingston.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 month ago Ben Hammond and Brayon Freeman have a good chance of occupying two of those spots in some order
And who might #3 be? This is now KJ’s 3rd season of recruiting.RF1 wrote: ↑1 month agoThe first one has yet to suit up for Rhody and may never do so if the rumors are true. The second one did not really contribute much in his short time here and was dismissed for being disruptive. Has since seen little playing time at Coastal Carolina. Both may have talent that never manifested itself in Kingston.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 month ago Ben Hammond and Brayon Freeman have a good chance of occupying two of those spots in some order
So curious about the details because I find it odd he is landing with Gtown and Cooley is tight with Archie.
Look at the bright side. We are presently at the point where we cannot possibly get much worse with the loss of any player or coach.
Why do you find it odd?Rhody Sody wrote: ↑1 month agoSo curious about the details because I find it odd he is landing with Gtown and Cooley is tight with Archie.
Look, I assume this is going to happen at this point, but if I remember right Casual Hoya had Dan Hurley leaving URI to coach Georgetown...
It may prolong the process of getting better but the team and its performance is not likely to get any worse than what we have seen these last two seasons.section(105) wrote: ↑1 month agoReally? Things can always get worse. Example, if KJs recruits leave us.
It totally makes sense for KJ and I agree that Cooley could care less. I’m just wondering about Archie’s position and if he just wanted a change.Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 month agoWhy do you find it odd?Rhody Sody wrote: ↑1 month agoSo curious about the details because I find it odd he is landing with Gtown and Cooley is tight with Archie.
He’s got tremendous connections in the DMV which is precisely where Georgetown is located.
Higher salary, better conference, more NIL available as well.
Cooley left his hometown school for a conference team.
You really think he gives a shit about stealing one of Archie’s assistants?
Archie absolutely needs to work fast for a solid replacement.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 month ago By the way, I don't want to hear any excuses for Archie... This is his team. This is his staff. He recruited a terrible team back-to-back years. He's now about to lose the one player that looked like a potential game-changer. He's going to lose the one assistant who can bring in decent talent... We should all give him a chance to build a strong roster this year, but if he doesn't, I'd rather have Cox with a lower salary and put all the $ Archie is making into our NIL. We hired Archie to take this program to new heights. Is it easy? Nope. But other teams are doing well. Other teams that are neck and neck with us have had MUCH better seasons.
Archie has been a disaster so far. We are at rock bottom, everyone. ..
Yippie
People are going to call me naive for this take, and they're probably right, but I would blame him. 16 months ago he got show caused and was unemployable in college basketball. Archie, Thorr, and the University stood by him when they had every right, and reason frankly, to fire him. Fast forward to now and he's bolting for more money?rambone 78 wrote: ↑1 month ago Who can blame KJ for leaving this clusterfuck?
Gtown will be better fast.
Will we?
Yeah right.
I agree BAR, and certainly no guarantees Hammond ends up at Georgetown, probably not.bigappleram wrote: ↑1 month ago I don't think Hammond to Georgetown is a reality. Georgetown has their eyes set on higher caliber PGs. He may decide to de-commit but I would be shocked if it's to go to Georgetown. So I hold out hope KJ is telling him A10 is the right level for him and to stay put. Also even if Ben initially committed due to KJ if Archie didn't build his own relationship with him at this point that's a massive fail. When EC committed his initial connection was via Preston but almost from Day 1 he talked about his connection to Dan.
Loyalty in sports isn’t a thing anymore. College, pros, players, coaches.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 month agoPeople are going to call me naive for this take, and they're probably right, but I would blame him. 16 months ago he got show caused and was unemployable in college basketball. Archie, Thorr, and the University stood by him when they had every right, and reason frankly, to fire him. Fast forward to now and he's bolting for more money?rambone 78 wrote: ↑1 month ago Who can blame KJ for leaving this clusterfuck?
Gtown will be better fast.
Will we?
Yeah right.
How about showing a little bit of loyalty to the people that kept you employed in your six figure a year job when they had every right to fire you instead of bolting as soon as possible for the next job that will pay you higher six figures? Is the difference really life changing? I'm guessing it's not.
I have to hear rant after rant about players having no loyalty and how it's ruining the game. Where do you think they learned jumping to the next highest bidder from? Why show a shred of loyalty when your coach won't hesitate to leave you for extra money? The coaches have taught the players to worry about yourself first, last, and everywhere in between. You can't be mad when the players show they were paying attention to their coaches.
I'm far more offended by coaches hopping than players
If you're saying Loyola isn't a thing in sports anymore, its like another poster here hijacked your account. (jk, I know you just typoed "loyalty.")Rhody15 wrote: ↑1 month agoLoyola in sports isn’t a thing anymore. College, pros, players, coaches.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 month agoPeople are going to call me naive for this take, and they're probably right, but I would blame him. 16 months ago he got show caused and was unemployable in college basketball. Archie, Thorr, and the University stood by him when they had every right, and reason frankly, to fire him. Fast forward to now and he's bolting for more money?rambone 78 wrote: ↑1 month ago Who can blame KJ for leaving this clusterfuck?
Gtown will be better fast.
Will we?
Yeah right.
How about showing a little bit of loyalty to the people that kept you employed in your six figure a year job when they had every right to fire you instead of bolting as soon as possible for the next job that will pay you higher six figures? Is the difference really life changing? I'm guessing it's not.
I have to hear rant after rant about players having no loyalty and how it's ruining the game. Where do you think they learned jumping to the next highest bidder from? Why show a shred of loyalty when your coach won't hesitate to leave you for extra money? The coaches have taught the players to worry about yourself first, last, and everywhere in between. You can't be mad when the players show they were paying attention to their coaches.
I'm far more offended by coaches hopping than players
Obviously you're right. But all the hand wringing and bitching, and complaining when players are doing it when coaches are the biggest offenders drives me up a wallRhody15 wrote: ↑1 month agoLoyalty in sports isn’t a thing anymore. College, pros, players, coaches.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 month agoPeople are going to call me naive for this take, and they're probably right, but I would blame him. 16 months ago he got show caused and was unemployable in college basketball. Archie, Thorr, and the University stood by him when they had every right, and reason frankly, to fire him. Fast forward to now and he's bolting for more money?rambone 78 wrote: ↑1 month ago Who can blame KJ for leaving this clusterfuck?
Gtown will be better fast.
Will we?
Yeah right.
How about showing a little bit of loyalty to the people that kept you employed in your six figure a year job when they had every right to fire you instead of bolting as soon as possible for the next job that will pay you higher six figures? Is the difference really life changing? I'm guessing it's not.
I have to hear rant after rant about players having no loyalty and how it's ruining the game. Where do you think they learned jumping to the next highest bidder from? Why show a shred of loyalty when your coach won't hesitate to leave you for extra money? The coaches have taught the players to worry about yourself first, last, and everywhere in between. You can't be mad when the players show they were paying attention to their coaches.
I'm far more offended by coaches hopping than players
If he decommits I could see George Mason as a top suitorbigappleram wrote: ↑1 month ago I don't think Hammond to Georgetown is a reality. Georgetown has their eyes set on higher caliber PGs. He may decide to de-commit but I would be shocked if it's to go to Georgetown. So I hold out hope KJ is telling him A10 is the right level for him and to stay put. Also even if Ben initially committed due to KJ if Archie didn't build his own relationship with him at this point that's a massive fail. When EC committed his initial connection was via Preston but almost from Day 1 he talked about his connection to Dan.
In my best Col. Walter Kurtz (Marlon Brando) voice from Apocalypse Now:steveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 month ago Why would we be connected to all these small point guards if Hammond was staying? Hammond isn't coming. The earlier we accept that, the better. i'm numb at this point.
Agreed. Plus the fact that 99% of them would probably do the same thing if in the same position. Just a lot of virtue signaling going on around the whole topic.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 month agoObviously you're right. But all the hand wringing and bitching, and complaining when players are doing it when coaches are the biggest offenders drives me up a wallRhody15 wrote: ↑1 month agoLoyalty in sports isn’t a thing anymore. College, pros, players, coaches.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 month ago
People are going to call me naive for this take, and they're probably right, but I would blame him. 16 months ago he got show caused and was unemployable in college basketball. Archie, Thorr, and the University stood by him when they had every right, and reason frankly, to fire him. Fast forward to now and he's bolting for more money?
How about showing a little bit of loyalty to the people that kept you employed in your six figure a year job when they had every right to fire you instead of bolting as soon as possible for the next job that will pay you higher six figures? Is the difference really life changing? I'm guessing it's not.
I have to hear rant after rant about players having no loyalty and how it's ruining the game. Where do you think they learned jumping to the next highest bidder from? Why show a shred of loyalty when your coach won't hesitate to leave you for extra money? The coaches have taught the players to worry about yourself first, last, and everywhere in between. You can't be mad when the players show they were paying attention to their coaches.
I'm far more offended by coaches hopping than players
Yes. Lamar Butler.Joe95 wrote: ↑1 month agoIf he decommits I could see George Mason as a top suitorbigappleram wrote: ↑1 month ago I don't think Hammond to Georgetown is a reality. Georgetown has their eyes set on higher caliber PGs. He may decide to de-commit but I would be shocked if it's to go to Georgetown. So I hold out hope KJ is telling him A10 is the right level for him and to stay put. Also even if Ben initially committed due to KJ if Archie didn't build his own relationship with him at this point that's a massive fail. When EC committed his initial connection was via Preston but almost from Day 1 he talked about his connection to Dan.