Re: Assistants under Coach Miller 2022-23
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:02 am
Can we hire immediately? You'd figure Archie has been on the phones for a few weeks now.
But that will never ever happen. You can't plan beyond 1 yr I don't think. And in that case, Lawrence has to be the playRamStock wrote: ↑1 month agoHammond in a second. He would have been the future if they could have kept him somehow for 4 yearsNYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 month agoYou were going to have Hammond or Lawrence, not both. For one year...who do you take?Not Mike Powell wrote: ↑1 month ago
Idk, I think a decommit from a 4 star freshman would say otherwise.
??? See HammondKevanBoyles wrote: ↑1 month ago Archie being the lead recruiter during this time is not a bad thing.
Guessing that KJ resigned when accepting Georgetown job. Therefore, no pay for KJ.steviep123 wrote: ↑1 month ago Here's the question - are we still paying KJ if his contract ends in June? Does GT reimburse? Is there any sort of breach of contract rules that is simply part of the business of going to another job? I'm not saying we should sue or anything, just whenever all these assistants leave for other positions, that are all on year to year contracts what happens when an assistant leaves before the contract is up? We shouldn't be paying an assistant for working for another school.
Really? Because of a kid who never enrolled, took a class, put on uniform, etc. at URI? Get over it.steviep123 wrote: ↑1 month ago If Hammond goes to Georgetown with KJ I might even root for Providence over Georgetown the next few seasons.
He just signed a new deal at $450k/yrRhody15 wrote: ↑1 month agoWhy would Preston leave a final four team and take a pay cut for a below average A10 team, regardless if he played here or not?Seawrightspostgame wrote: ↑1 month ago Preston Murphy - go get a guy that has brought talent here before. He looked pretty active on a final four team's bench.
I doubt Archie feels anything but happy for KJ given that he gave him a job when he was handicapped by the ncaa and now he's ok. Kind of took care of the guy.
He needs to take care of the team now.
I think it's BS if another team takes our asst and one of his recruits with him. No I will not get over it.PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑1 month agoReally? Because of a kid who never enrolled, took a class, put on uniform, etc. at URI? Get over it.steviep123 wrote: ↑1 month ago If Hammond goes to Georgetown with KJ I might even root for Providence over Georgetown the next few seasons.
I would say that is quite literally the #1 reason why assistant coaches get hired. Many assistant coach job interviews probably start with the question "What kids could you/are you going to bring in".steviep123 wrote: ↑1 month agoI think it's BS if another team takes our asst and one of his recruits with him. No I will not get over it.PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑1 month agoReally? Because of a kid who never enrolled, took a class, put on uniform, etc. at URI? Get over it.steviep123 wrote: ↑1 month ago If Hammond goes to Georgetown with KJ I might even root for Providence over Georgetown the next few seasons.
Don't recall what Aaman did. I felt the same about Martin that I do about Hammond. Martin is worse because he left after the only successful season Cox had here.Bos8 wrote: ↑1 month agoDid Mike Aaman decommit to follow Hurley? If that was the case, were people complaining?steviep123 wrote: ↑1 month agoI think it's BS if another team takes our asst and one of his recruits with him. No I will not get over it.PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑1 month ago
Really? Because of a kid who never enrolled, took a class, put on uniform, etc. at URI? Get over it.
And didn't Tyrese Martin follow him?
It's still BS.Bos8 wrote: ↑1 month agoI would say that is quite literally the #1 reason why assistant coaches get hired. Many assistant coach job interviews probably start with the question "What kids could you/are you going to bring in".steviep123 wrote: ↑1 month agoI think it's BS if another team takes our asst and one of his recruits with him. No I will not get over it.PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑1 month ago
Really? Because of a kid who never enrolled, took a class, put on uniform, etc. at URI? Get over it.
I highly doubt Hammond is going with him.steviep123 wrote: ↑1 month agoI think it's BS if another team takes our asst and one of his recruits with him. No I will not get over it.PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑1 month agoReally? Because of a kid who never enrolled, took a class, put on uniform, etc. at URI? Get over it.steviep123 wrote: ↑1 month ago If Hammond goes to Georgetown with KJ I might even root for Providence over Georgetown the next few seasons.
Yeah I noticed that he followed a few Mason people late in the season.bigappleram wrote: ↑1 month agoI highly doubt Hammond is going with him.steviep123 wrote: ↑1 month agoI think it's BS if another team takes our asst and one of his recruits with him. No I will not get over it.PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑1 month ago
Really? Because of a kid who never enrolled, took a class, put on uniform, etc. at URI? Get over it.
Mack was who Gtown was after; I still think there is a good shot Hammond ends up at Mason.
I'm going to be PISSED if he ends up at George Mason! It would be one thing if his profile blew up and he went to a higher level school. If he broke his commitment to go to a school in the same conference as us, that hasn't been to the tournament as a member of the A10, to play in front of less fans than we get at the Ryan Center than I'll have no respect for him and he's going to get the Zdeno Chara in Montreal treatment from me every time he steps in the Ryan CenterPeterRamTime wrote: ↑1 month agoYeah I noticed that he followed a few Mason people late in the season.bigappleram wrote: ↑1 month agoI highly doubt Hammond is going with him.steviep123 wrote: ↑1 month ago
I think it's BS if another team takes our asst and one of his recruits with him. No I will not get over it.
Mack was who Gtown was after; I still think there is a good shot Hammond ends up at Mason.
For me portal wizard is someone that digs and digs into players in the portal, their stats, profiles, game tapes, local former team print media coverages, etc. yes, to find the diamonds in rough coupled with team defensive and offensive needs.Bos8 wrote: ↑1 month ago What is a portal wizard?
I remember talking to a D2 assistant coach back 15 years ago. Jeff Goodman use to release the transfer list and the coach would call every low-mid major school on there to find out why the kid was leaving and to see if they had interest in dropping down and playing right away.
Those days are long gone. No way one assistant coach (or even an entire staff!) could sift through enough synergy cut ups to find a diamond in the rough.
In the past, we have had assistant coaches quietly "working " for us for a couple months while being paid by their previous school. Compensation from the former school was better than what they were getting here. I assume this happens regularly.steviep123 wrote: ↑1 month ago Here's the question - are we still paying KJ if his contract ends in June? Does GT reimburse? Is there any sort of breach of contract rules that is simply part of the business of going to another job? I'm not saying we should sue or anything, just whenever all these assistants leave for other positions, that are all on year to year contracts what happens when an assistant leaves before the contract is up? We shouldn't be paying an assistant for working for another school.
The contract is terminated when he leaves.. Depending on the wording, the school he is going to might have to buy out his remaining contract.. but usually, it doesn't come to that. Regardless, as soon as he leaves we do not pay anything else to him.steviep123 wrote: ↑1 month ago Here's the question - are we still paying KJ if his contract ends in June? Does GT reimburse? Is there any sort of breach of contract rules that is simply part of the business of going to another job? I'm not saying we should sue or anything, just whenever all these assistants leave for other positions, that are all on year to year contracts what happens when an assistant leaves before the contract is up? We shouldn't be paying an assistant for working for another school.
If so....how do you think he'll be received at the Ry?bigappleram wrote: ↑1 month agoI highly doubt Hammond is going with him.steviep123 wrote: ↑1 month agoI think it's BS if another team takes our asst and one of his recruits with him. No I will not get over it.PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑1 month ago
Really? Because of a kid who never enrolled, took a class, put on uniform, etc. at URI? Get over it.
Mack was who Gtown was after; I still think there is a good shot Hammond ends up at Mason.
The diehards will boo and the casuals won't know Ben Hammond from Gregory Hammond.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 month agoIf so....how do you think he'll be received at the Ry?bigappleram wrote: ↑1 month agoI highly doubt Hammond is going with him.steviep123 wrote: ↑1 month ago
I think it's BS if another team takes our asst and one of his recruits with him. No I will not get over it.
Mack was who Gtown was after; I still think there is a good shot Hammond ends up at Mason.
Or Jeffrey Hammond. (Have to be a Jethro Tull fan to know who he is.)STC wrote: ↑1 month agoThe diehards will boo and the casuals won't know Ben Hammond from Gregory Hammond.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 month agoIf so....how do you think he'll be received at the Ry?bigappleram wrote: ↑1 month ago
I highly doubt Hammond is going with him.
Mack was who Gtown was after; I still think there is a good shot Hammond ends up at Mason.
For one year? Lawrence, without question. Lawrence is a better player right now. You want Hammond because he could have developed into an all-conference guard. He wasn't going to be that next year. I actually think Lawrence could be an all-conference player this year if he makes a jump. Lawrence had some big games against legit competition. He should thrive in the A10. We need it.RamStock wrote: ↑1 month agoHammond in a second. He would have been the future if they could have kept him somehow for 4 yearsNYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 month agoYou were going to have Hammond or Lawrence, not both. For one year...who do you take?Not Mike Powell wrote: ↑1 month ago
Idk, I think a decommit from a 4 star freshman would say otherwise.
He looks like the most athletic guard we have had in a while.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 month agoFor one year? Lawrence, without question. Lawrence is a better player right now. You want Hammond because he could have developed into an all-conference guard. He wasn't going to be that next year. I actually think Lawrence could be an all-conference player this year if he makes a jump. Lawrence had some big games against legit competition. He should thrive in the A10. We need it.RamStock wrote: ↑1 month agoHammond in a second. He would have been the future if they could have kept him somehow for 4 yearsNYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 month ago
You were going to have Hammond or Lawrence, not both. For one year...who do you take?
ha! not just Jeffrey Hammond, Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond And, yes, I would rather see him play here than Ben, or Lawrence probablyBillyboy78 wrote: ↑1 month agoOr Jeffrey Hammond. (Have to be a Jethro Tull fan to know who he is.)
Correct. His real name is Jeffrey Hammond. His stage name was Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond. Never quite understood that.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 month agoha! not just Jeffrey Hammond, Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond And, yes, I would rather see him play here than Ben, or Lawrence probablyBillyboy78 wrote: ↑1 month agoOr Jeffrey Hammond. (Have to be a Jethro Tull fan to know who he is.)
Very correct. I’ve come around to your line of thinking NYG; give me the experience because it will get us back to relevance quicker. I can’t afford to keep waiting for the youngin’s to develop.NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 month ago BB78, I only knew him by his stage name (
JD, you were not, I don't believe, going to get "experience playing in relevant games for a power conference team that was relevant last season and for a good coach" level play from Hammond in 24-25, you just weren't...and you can't have both. Take heart, this seems better.
I don't get the reference to Jeffrey Hammond. I'm thick as a brick.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 month agoOr Jeffrey Hammond. (Have to be a Jethro Tull fan to know who he is.)
Keep in mind he averaged 6 Ppg off the bench. Everyone thought Weston would be a star because he came from Seton Hall. He did very little. I think Lawrence is going to be a good player, but is not a star and surrounded by a below average guard group we aren’t winning whether Lawrence is here or Hammond. There still isn’t a good point guard or three point shooter on this team. Why couldn’t they have Lawrence with Hammond? Too much to ask for Archie to ever take a step forward?steveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 month agoFor one year? Lawrence, without question. Lawrence is a better player right now. You want Hammond because he could have developed into an all-conference guard. He wasn't going to be that next year. I actually think Lawrence could be an all-conference player this year if he makes a jump. Lawrence had some big games against legit competition. He should thrive in the A10. We need it.RamStock wrote: ↑1 month agoHammond in a second. He would have been the future if they could have kept him somehow for 4 yearsNYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑1 month ago
You were going to have Hammond or Lawrence, not both. For one year...who do you take?
As a sophomore in The Big Ten, on an NCAA tournament 8 seed, Lawrence started 23 out of 34 games, played 24 minutes a game, averaged 7 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists and shot 36% from 3.RamStock wrote: ↑1 month agoKeep in mind he averaged 6 Ppg off the bench. Everyone thought Weston would be a star because he came from Seton Hall. He did very little. I think Lawrence is going to be a good player, but is not a star and surrounded by a below average guard group we aren’t winning whether Lawrence is here or Hammond. There still isn’t a good point guard or three point shooter on this team. Why couldn’t they have Lawrence with Hammond? Too much to ask for Archie to ever take a step forward?steveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 month agoFor one year? Lawrence, without question. Lawrence is a better player right now. You want Hammond because he could have developed into an all-conference guard. He wasn't going to be that next year. I actually think Lawrence could be an all-conference player this year if he makes a jump. Lawrence had some big games against legit competition. He should thrive in the A10. We need it.
If you are calling Green and Cam(who had limited shots) big time three point shooters then you can keep believing that this wasn’t a last place team last year. Weston had injuries and had not played barely at all. He back and look at the hype he had when he came to URI. What is the issue if we have these many snipers? Why are we always at the bottom? Let’s keep in mind Lawrence averaged under 7 points a game. He sounds like a good team player, but by no means a difference maker that puts his team on his back. I keep hearing how all these guys like House and Luis are so good and yet we stunk. If everyone is so good we must be one player away from the A-10 titleRhody15 wrote: ↑1 month agoAs a sophomore in The Big Ten, on an NCAA tournament 8 seed, Lawrence started 23 out of 34 games, played 24 minutes a game, averaged 7 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists and shot 36% from 3.RamStock wrote: ↑1 month agoKeep in mind he averaged 6 Ppg off the bench. Everyone thought Weston would be a star because he came from Seton Hall. He did very little. I think Lawrence is going to be a good player, but is not a star and surrounded by a below average guard group we aren’t winning whether Lawrence is here or Hammond. There still isn’t a good point guard or three point shooter on this team. Why couldn’t they have Lawrence with Hammond? Too much to ask for Archie to ever take a step forward?steveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 month ago
For one year? Lawrence, without question. Lawrence is a better player right now. You want Hammond because he could have developed into an all-conference guard. He wasn't going to be that next year. I actually think Lawrence could be an all-conference player this year if he makes a jump. Lawrence had some big games against legit competition. He should thrive in the A10. We need it.
Brandon Weston didn’t even finish his first game at Seton Hall as a freshman as he hurt his ankle and knee.
In no world can you compare the two players.
Also, David Green shot 43% and Cam Estevez shot 42% from 3.
Those are well above average %s.
Your whole post is completely wrong.
Name me one game where Brandon Weston made an impact at Seton Hall.RamStock wrote: ↑1 month agoKeep in mind he averaged 6 Ppg off the bench. Everyone thought Weston would be a star because he came from Seton Hall. He did very little. I think Lawrence is going to be a good player, but is not a star and surrounded by a below average guard group we aren’t winning whether Lawrence is here or Hammond. There still isn’t a good point guard or three point shooter on this team. Why couldn’t they have Lawrence with Hammond? Too much to ask for Archie to ever take a step forward?steveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 month agoFor one year? Lawrence, without question. Lawrence is a better player right now. You want Hammond because he could have developed into an all-conference guard. He wasn't going to be that next year. I actually think Lawrence could be an all-conference player this year if he makes a jump. Lawrence had some big games against legit competition. He should thrive in the A10. We need it.
Agreed, there’s a difference between averaging 7 PPG and playing 20+ minutes a game on a power 5, and redshirting or playing under 5 minutes a game. Both of those guys medically redshirted at a power 5 and didn’t play more than 1 game combined I believe.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 month agoName me one game where Brandon Weston made an impact at Seton Hall.RamStock wrote: ↑1 month agoKeep in mind he averaged 6 Ppg off the bench. Everyone thought Weston would be a star because he came from Seton Hall. He did very little. I think Lawrence is going to be a good player, but is not a star and surrounded by a below average guard group we aren’t winning whether Lawrence is here or Hammond. There still isn’t a good point guard or three point shooter on this team. Why couldn’t they have Lawrence with Hammond? Too much to ask for Archie to ever take a step forward?steveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 month ago
For one year? Lawrence, without question. Lawrence is a better player right now. You want Hammond because he could have developed into an all-conference guard. He wasn't going to be that next year. I actually think Lawrence could be an all-conference player this year if he makes a jump. Lawrence had some big games against legit competition. He should thrive in the A10. We need it.
Name me one game where Tchikou made an impact at Alabama.
We hyped them up based on their high school rankings, but they didn't prove themselves at the high-major level. Lawrence, on the other hand, has. He averaged 7 points not 6, but he also averaged 8.2 points per game and shot 48% from 3 in his final 15 games as a sophomore in the Big Ten. If you doubt that he'll make a significant leap in the A10, I'm not sure what else to say. I think you're wrong.
Let me give you some examples of players who made a decent impact at their high-major schools before making a huge impact in the A10:
Matt Cross averaged 5.8 points his sophomore year at Louisville but was one of the best players in the A10 this year.
Stan Robinson averaged 3.0 points at Indiana his sophomore year.
Kuran Iverson averaged 4.6 points at Memphis in his sophomore year.
Foster Loyer averaged 4.6 points as a junior at Michigan State.
I didn’t say that Lawrence wouldn’t be good. I’m nominating him to all conference because he averaged 7 Ppg at Nebraska. He seems like a good piece. If he is as good as some say he is gone anyway after this year so they best make the tourney. Doesn’t it also make no sense how people say year 3/4 will be Archie’s year? How can we say that when there is full turnover every year and they are all on 1 contracts and free agents. I like Lawrence, but we did not gain by losing Hammond. I like Lawrence better than any of the guards we have on this team for sure.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 month agoName me one game where Brandon Weston made an impact at Seton Hall.RamStock wrote: ↑1 month agoKeep in mind he averaged 6 Ppg off the bench. Everyone thought Weston would be a star because he came from Seton Hall. He did very little. I think Lawrence is going to be a good player, but is not a star and surrounded by a below average guard group we aren’t winning whether Lawrence is here or Hammond. There still isn’t a good point guard or three point shooter on this team. Why couldn’t they have Lawrence with Hammond? Too much to ask for Archie to ever take a step forward?steveystuds06 wrote: ↑1 month ago
For one year? Lawrence, without question. Lawrence is a better player right now. You want Hammond because he could have developed into an all-conference guard. He wasn't going to be that next year. I actually think Lawrence could be an all-conference player this year if he makes a jump. Lawrence had some big games against legit competition. He should thrive in the A10. We need it.
Name me one game where Tchikou made an impact at Alabama.
We hyped them up based on their high school rankings, but they didn't prove themselves at the high-major level. Lawrence, on the other hand, has. He averaged 7 points not 6, but he also averaged 8.2 points per game and shot 48% from 3 in his final 15 games as a sophomore in the Big Ten. If you doubt that he'll make a significant leap in the A10, I'm not sure what else to say. I think you're wrong.
Let me give you some examples of players who made a decent impact at their high-major schools before making a huge impact in the A10:
Matt Cross averaged 5.8 points his sophomore year at Louisville but was one of the best players in the A10 this year.
Stan Robinson averaged 3.0 points at Indiana his sophomore year.
Kuran Iverson averaged 4.6 points at Memphis in his sophomore year.
Foster Loyer averaged 4.6 points as a junior at Michigan State.
Ben Hammond
Wait, what? David Green is a good 3-point shooter, as is Cam.RamStock wrote: ↑1 month agoIf you are calling Green and Cam(who had limited shots) big time three point shooters then you can keep believing that this wasn’t a last place team last year. Weston had injuries and had not played barely at all. He back and look at the hype he had when he came to URI. What is the issue if we have these many snipers? Why are we always at the bottom? Let’s keep in mind Lawrence averaged under 7 points a game. He sounds like a good team player, but by no means a difference maker that puts his team on his back. I keep hearing these guys like House and Luis are so good and yet we stunk. If everyone is so good we must be one player away from the A-10 titleRhody15 wrote: ↑1 month agoAs a sophomore in The Big Ten, on an NCAA tournament 8 seed, Lawrence started 23 out of 34 games, played 24 minutes a game, averaged 7 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists and shot 36% from 3.RamStock wrote: ↑1 month ago
Keep in mind he averaged 6 Ppg off the bench. Everyone thought Weston would be a star because he came from Seton Hall. He did very little. I think Lawrence is going to be a good player, but is not a star and surrounded by a below average guard group we aren’t winning whether Lawrence is here or Hammond. There still isn’t a good point guard or three point shooter on this team. Why couldn’t they have Lawrence with Hammond? Too much to ask for Archie to ever take a step forward?
Brandon Weston didn’t even finish his first game at Seton Hall as a freshman as he hurt his ankle and knee.
In no world can you compare the two players.
Also, David Green shot 43% and Cam Estevez shot 42% from 3.
Those are well above average %s.
Your whole post is completely wrong.