Mitchell Twins

[ATPTourFan]

Hassan is a mature, dedicated, successful professional. The twins are none of those things.

[RI_Bred]

Hmm...the front court folks think the back court is the problem and the back court folks think the problem is the front court. Nice. I wonder if any of those think the coach is a factor...

If only there was some sort of team management/leadership position that was put in place to manage and mitigate these types of discrepancies...it's almost like there should be someone steering the ship and setting the tone...developing a style. But what do I know?

[ATPTourFan]

[NYGFan_Section208]

Hu-zzah.

[Jersey77]

Hu-zzah.

Just a guess here, no information.

Maybe Cox chose to start Martin and Walker because they are both academically seniors and this is the last home game of the season, so have them introduced into the starting line-up.

If not this maybe issues carrying over from the last game.

[NYGFan_Section208]

Hu-zzah.

Just a guess here, no information.

Maybe Cox chose to start Martin and Walker because they are both academically seniors and this is the last home game of the season, so have them introduced into the starting line-up.

If not this maybe issues carrying over from the last game.

Not sure there's any indication it's the latter, but who knows?

[CamsRams]

Anybody there notice the Mitchell’s staring down Cox after a they made a basket? I couldn’t tell for sure but boy it seemed like it.

[reef]

Hu-zzah.

Just a guess here, no information.

Maybe Cox chose to start Martin and Walker because they are both academically seniors and this is the last home game of the season, so have them introduced into the starting line-up.

If not this maybe issues carrying over from the last game.

I think they said on the broadcast it was for matchups but who knows the real reason

[Blue Man]

Anybody there notice the Mitchell’s staring down Cox after a they made a basket? I couldn’t tell for sure but boy it seemed like it.

I am looking forward to when they are no longer wearing our colors.

[ATPTourFan]

Only powerhouse programs Nichols State and Sam Houston State shoot free throws worse than we do. Thanks for not caring enough to practice them, twins!

[Rhody15]

Anybody there notice the Mitchell’s staring down Cox after a they made a basket? I couldn’t tell for sure but boy it seemed like it.

I absolutely noticed that as well.

[RI_Bred]

Only powerhouse programs Nichols State and Sam Houston State shoot free throws worse than we do. Thanks for not caring enough to practice them, twins!

One of the most embarrassing stats ever for this program. How can you let this happen? It's really cost us this year.

[Rhody15]

Only powerhouse programs Nichols State and Sam Houston State shoot free throws worse than we do. Thanks for not caring enough to practice them, twins!

It's even more surprising we're this bad when we have two GREAT free throw shooters in El Ahmin and Sheppard.

El Ahmin - 91%
Sheppard - 83%

[Rhodymob05]

Still think we NEED these guys. That skill and size is very difficult to come by. Again, they just need leadership.

[steveystuds06]

Still think we NEED these guys. That skill and size is very difficult to come by. Again, they just need leadership.

We don’t need anyone on this team. We need a coach. If they stay it’ll help, but we need a coach to rebuild this program. We need a coach that will bring in his type of players like Dan did. This team has precisely zero stars on it, and we can find most of this production with transfers.

[section(105)]

……we have beat this around quite……..if a new coach sees two 6’9” guys in the A-19 that can be salvaged, fine………if not, as in they don’t fit their incoming system……the bye bye…….

[ElmCityRhody]

i think with the right leadership and coaching they can be an asset

leadership 101: you chuck up a 3 or force a jumper, you sit on the bench

[ramster]

Only powerhouse programs Nichols State and Sam Houston State shoot free throws worse than we do. Thanks for not caring enough to practice them, twins!

It's even more surprising we're this bad when we have two GREAT free throw shooters in El Ahmin and Sheppard.

El Ahmin - 91%
Sheppard - 83%

Problem with El-Amin is he is out best FT shooter but he is only 12-13 in 16 games for 92% in A10 Games. He doesn't drive much, he stays on the perimeter and does not draw fouls. Great percentage but not on many attempts.

Walker is a disappointing 3-13 for 23% in A10 games. Good news is he has few attempts just like El-Amin., He tends to take fall away and hook shots inside and does not draw much contact,

Walker is even worse than Thomas who is 4-12 for 33% in A10 games

Carey was good at 17-22 for 77% but then he caught the shooting bug and only 1-7 FT the last two games, 0-3 last night and now only 62% in A10 games.

More shooting woes on 3FG'S Malik Martin is 2-18 for 11% in A10 games. Leggett is only 8-38 for 21%. Makhi shoots 3's better than both of them with 3-11 27%. Jermaine Harris type numbers.

Makhel is 44% on 75 attempts and Makhi is 46% on 56 attempts. They lead the team in FT Attempts but that's bad news if you shoot a poor percent. Sheppard only has 33 attempts.

[ramster]

Only powerhouse programs Nichols State and Sam Houston State shoot free throws worse than we do. Thanks for not caring enough to practice them, twins!

FT's In 16 A10 Games:

Walker 23%
Thomas 33%
Makhel 44%
Makhi 46%
Carey 62%
Martin 64%

Only El-Amin, Sheppard and Leggett are 70% and up

Makhel and Makhi get the most attempts on the team which hurts the overall team percentage

[RI_Bred]

Only powerhouse programs Nichols State and Sam Houston State shoot free throws worse than we do. Thanks for not caring enough to practice them, twins!

FT's In 16 A10 Games:

Walker 23%
Thomas 33%
Makhel 44%
Makhi 46%
Carey 62%
Martin 64%

Only El-Amin, Sheppard and Leggett are 70% and up

Makhel and Makhi get the most attempts on the team which hurts the overall team percentage

Wow. That really hits you.

[RhowdyRam02]

Only powerhouse programs Nichols State and Sam Houston State shoot free throws worse than we do. Thanks for not caring enough to practice them, twins!

It's even more surprising we're this bad when we have two GREAT free throw shooters in El Ahmin and Sheppard.

El Ahmin - 91%
Sheppard - 83%

Problem with El-Amin is he is out best FT shooter but he is only 12-13 in 16 games for 92% in A10 Games. He doesn't drive much, he stays on the perimeter and does not draw fouls. Great percentage but not on many attempts.

Walker is a disappointing 3-13 for 23% in A10 games. Good news is he has few attempts just like El-Amin., He tends to take fall away and hook shots inside and does not draw much contact,

Walker is even worse than Thomas who is 4-12 for 33% in A10 games

Carey was good at 17-22 for 77% but then he caught the shooting bug and only 1-7 FT the last two games, 0-3 last night and now only 62% in A10 games.

More shooting woes on 3FG'S Malik Martin is 2-18 for 11% in A10 games. Leggett is only 8-38 for 21%. Makhi shoots 3's better than both of them with 3-11 27%. Jermaine Harris type numbers.

Makhel is 44% on 75 attempts and Makhi is 46% on 56 attempts. They lead the team in FT Attempts but that's bad news if you shoot a poor percent. Sheppard only has 33 attempts.

Is there a reason you were only looking at A10 stats for free throw percentage? Seems level of competition is irrelevant for that stat, so not sure why you'd purposely use a smaller sample size

[ramster]

It's even more surprising we're this bad when we have two GREAT free throw shooters in El Ahmin and Sheppard.

El Ahmin - 91%
Sheppard - 83%

Problem with El-Amin is he is out best FT shooter but he is only 12-13 in 16 games for 92% in A10 Games. He doesn't drive much, he stays on the perimeter and does not draw fouls. Great percentage but not on many attempts.

Walker is a disappointing 3-13 for 23% in A10 games. Good news is he has few attempts just like El-Amin., He tends to take fall away and hook shots inside and does not draw much contact,

Walker is even worse than Thomas who is 4-12 for 33% in A10 games

Carey was good at 17-22 for 77% but then he caught the shooting bug and only 1-7 FT the last two games, 0-3 last night and now only 62% in A10 games.

More shooting woes on 3FG'S Malik Martin is 2-18 for 11% in A10 games. Leggett is only 8-38 for 21%. Makhi shoots 3's better than both of them with 3-11 27%. Jermaine Harris type numbers.

Makhel is 44% on 75 attempts and Makhi is 46% on 56 attempts. They lead the team in FT Attempts but that's bad news if you shoot a poor percent. Sheppard only has 33 attempts.

Is there a reason you were only looking at A10 stats for free throw percentage? Seems level of competition is irrelevant for that stat, so not sure why you'd purposely use a smaller sample size

Because the A10 is all that really counts when your only chance is an At Large bid.
Lus it's the most recent and the most relevant going into the A10 Tournament.

[PeterRamTime]

Only powerhouse programs Nichols State and Sam Houston State shoot free throws worse than we do. Thanks for not caring enough to practice them, twins!

FT's In 16 A10 Games:

Walker 23%
Thomas 33%
Makhel 44%
Makhi 46%
Carey 62%
Martin 64%

Only El-Amin, Sheppard and Leggett are 70% and up

Makhel and Makhi get the most attempts on the team which hurts the overall team percentage

Oh dear lord...

[RhowdyRam02]

Problem with El-Amin is he is out best FT shooter but he is only 12-13 in 16 games for 92% in A10 Games. He doesn't drive much, he stays on the perimeter and does not draw fouls. Great percentage but not on many attempts.

Walker is a disappointing 3-13 for 23% in A10 games. Good news is he has few attempts just like El-Amin., He tends to take fall away and hook shots inside and does not draw much contact,

Walker is even worse than Thomas who is 4-12 for 33% in A10 games

Carey was good at 17-22 for 77% but then he caught the shooting bug and only 1-7 FT the last two games, 0-3 last night and now only 62% in A10 games.

More shooting woes on 3FG'S Malik Martin is 2-18 for 11% in A10 games. Leggett is only 8-38 for 21%. Makhi shoots 3's better than both of them with 3-11 27%. Jermaine Harris type numbers.

Makhel is 44% on 75 attempts and Makhi is 46% on 56 attempts. They lead the team in FT Attempts but that's bad news if you shoot a poor percent. Sheppard only has 33 attempts.

Is there a reason you were only looking at A10 stats for free throw percentage? Seems level of competition is irrelevant for that stat, so not sure why you'd purposely use a smaller sample size

Because the A10 is all that really counts when your only chance is an At Large bid.
Lus it's the most recent and the most relevant going into the A10 Tournament.

None of that is how statistics actually work in real life though

[ramster]

Is there a reason you were only looking at A10 stats for free throw percentage? Seems level of competition is irrelevant for that stat, so not sure why you'd purposely use a smaller sample size

Because the A10 is all that really counts when your only chance is an At Large bid.
Lus it's the most recent and the most relevant going into the A10 Tournament.

None of that is how statistics actually work in real life though

A10, URI Statistics both break stats down by total season and by A10 only.
Post Season All Conference is based only on A10 Statistics.

URI last in A10 - All Games = 349-556 = 62.8%. If count OOC Only then 174-245=71%

URI last in A10 - A10 Games Only - in fact significantly worse for last 16 games A10 games. 175-311 = 56.3%



So we dropped as a team from 71% in 12 OOC Games to only 56.3% in 16 A10 Games.

[RF1]

Interesting to note that the fortunes of David Cox immediately went downhill after the Mitchells came to Kingston.

[ramster]

Interesting to note that the fortunes of David Cox immediately went downhill after the Mitchells came to Kingston.

They went downhill to start with when he moved Jeff Dowtin off the PG position.

Martin and Toppin departed. Had to hit the transfer portal.

Would Martin and Toppin have departed if Dowtin had stayed in the PG Leadership position and the team had greater success? Maybe the Mitchell's would not have been here.

[Billyboy78]

Mama Mitchell has been eerily quiet on twitter.

[Blue Man]

Interesting to note that the fortunes of David Cox immediately went downhill after the Mitchells came to Kingston.

They went downhill to start with when he moved Jeff Dowtin off the PG position.

Martin and Toppin departed. Had to hit the transfer portal.

Would Martin and Toppin have departed if Dowtin had stayed in the PG Leadership position and the team had greater success? Maybe the Mitchell's would not have been here.

Yup. Canary in the coal mine. Moving Jeff was the worst.

Everyone loves Cox - and who doesn't he's a great guy. But loving the guy and to love playing for the guy are two different things.

[Rhody72]

It is interesting that we were better last year with just Makhel and Makhi was suppose to be the better player.

[reef]

Wow 348 of 350 in FT % pathetic!!!

[PeterRamTime]

Interesting to note that the fortunes of David Cox immediately went downhill after the Mitchells came to Kingston.

They went downhill to start with when he moved Jeff Dowtin off the PG position.

Martin and Toppin departed. Had to hit the transfer portal.

Would Martin and Toppin have departed if Dowtin had stayed in the PG Leadership position and the team had greater success? Maybe the Mitchell's would not have been here.

Or if there was no Covid, Fatts doesn't hit a cold streak and we win that game at Davidson and we 100% go dancing.

[rambone 78]

348 out of 350...and I would guess our team FT % is the worst in the country by far, the 2nd half of the season.

Weren't we about 70% around mid season?

That is beyond pathetic.

[eli#10]

When was the last time both of them had a good game together

[reef]

They were both ok @ Bonaventure and we still got slaughtered as thd guards struggled

[Iggy1979]

It's a guards game. Twin towers doesn't work. Not realizing that will cost Cox his job.

[ramster]

Going with 3 more or less 6' guards doesn't help. In today's game guards need to rebound and play physical too. Thatch for St Louis with a. game high 13 rebounds Thursday night. Tyrese Martin had 14 rebounds in a game this week. Toppin can rebound. Terrell and Mathews could rebound and they did. We have 3 smallish guards. No big physical guard. Leggett does his best to fill the roll but he is not 6'5" or 6'6"

On one of Cox' recent calls he said Malik Martin is 6' 2.5". He said he like to think of himself as 6'6". Martin hustles and played tough but he is not the height of Martin or Toppin who we lost.

As for Mitchell's last good game:

St Bonaventure:
Makhi: 30 min. 7-12 FG, 14 points, 9 rebounds, 3 blocks, 2 steal, 1 assist, 1 turnover
Makhel: 32 min, 5-8 FG, 3-6 FT, 13 points, 7 rebounds, 2 blocks, 2 assists, 2 turnovers

27 of 55 points were from these 2 guys. Combined 12-20 FG. They had Only 3 of the teams 16 turnovers. Carey with 4, El-Amin and Leggett with 3 each

But while Makhi and Makhel had 16 of the teams 28 rebounds they had zero offensive rebounds. They like to block shots and they excel at blocking shots but this also pulls them out of offensive rebounding position at times. If these guys boxed out effectively and consistently their rebound totals could be very impressive, and their offensive rebounding would go up. They have raw potential and talent - opportunity to coach them up is significant.

[rhodylaw]

Wow 348 of 350 in FT % pathetic!!!

It’s honestly tough to imagine that there are 2 worse teams out there….it is beyond pathetic. How many front ends of a 1-1 have we missed, such incredible momentum killers to not hit FTs.

[rambone 78]

For the last month I think the team FT % is under 50%.

That is truly mind boggling.

[Blue Man]

For the last month I think the team FT % is under 50%.

That is truly mind boggling.

Not really. When you think of a culture that lets the players do whatever they want instead of being in the gym shooting free throws it actually makes sense.

[ATPTourFan]

Where is the military family discipline Cox tells us about?

[ramster]

For the last month I think the team FT % is under 50%.

That is truly mind boggling.

Not really. When you think of a culture that lets the players do whatever they want instead of being in the gym shooting free throws it actually makes sense.

You would have to say the writing was on the wall when Fatts took the shot in year 1 when he wasn’t supposed to - and we won. Great for that game.

But the amazing thing was that Cox told that story. That his player did not follow instructions from the time out. That should have been between Cox and the team. Strange. That was the signal right there of the “discipline” to come.

[SGreenwell]

For the last month I think the team FT % is under 50%.

That is truly mind boggling.

Eh, it's kind of a weird statistical quirk that's reflective of the roster, but that ultimately falls back on Cox too. The twins are the only ones who actually get to the line and draw fouls. Combined, they shot about 12 FT per 40 minutes. Leggett, Carey and Malik Martin are in the 4.0 to 4.7 range, Sheppard is at 3.3, and Walker, El-Amin and Thomas are 2.2 and below. For comparison's sake, Fatts was at 8.3 per 40 minutes last year. (Whether you enjoy his game or not, that's another indicator that we replaced his production last year with essentially nothing.)

[Blue Man]

For the last month I think the team FT % is under 50%.

That is truly mind boggling.

Not really. When you think of a culture that lets the players do whatever they want instead of being in the gym shooting free throws it actually makes sense.

You would have to say the writing was on the wall when Fatts took the shot in year 1 when he wasn’t supposed to - and we won. Great for that game.

But the amazing thing was that Cox told that story. That his player did not follow instructions from the time out. That should have been between Cox and the team. Strange. That was the signal right there of the “discipline” to come.

Yeah for someone so well spoken and knowledgeable - some of his biggest gaffe's have come at the podium.

No one's perfect, but a lot of coaching/leadership is keeping the mess in the kitchen, so to speak.

He shouldn't have come out laughing about Fatts waving him off and calling his own play. Shouldn't be talking about not being prepared for something - which is a disturbing common theme. Whether it be gameplans, players who weren't playing, etc.

He just wasn't ready for everything that comes with being a head coach, and it sucks that we had to go through this with him.

[Rhode_Island_Red]

For the last month I think the team FT % is under 50%.

That is truly mind boggling.

Not really. When you think of a culture that lets the players do whatever they want instead of being in the gym shooting free throws it actually makes sense.

Do we actually know this for a fact? Has anyone actually been to a practice and seen this?

[rambone 78]

Lack of discipline during games usually means a lack of discipline in practice.

FT's require a certain level of concentration.

Jimmy Baron practiced FT's until his hands bled.

Needless to say, I doubt the twins do the same.

[reef]

348 of 350 in FT shooting is basically a fire able offense another to add to the list

[Rhody72]

Eh, it's kind of a weird statistical quirk that's reflective of the roster, but that ultimately falls back on Cox too. The twins are the only ones who actually get to the line and draw fouls. Combined, they shot about 12 FT per 40 minutes. Leggett, Carey and Malik Martin are in the 4.0 to 4.7 range, Sheppard is at 3.3, and Walker, El-Amin and Thomas are 2.2 and below. For comparison's sake, Fatts was at 8.3 per 40 minutes last year. (Whether you enjoy his game or not, that's another indicator that we replaced his production last year with essentially nothing.)

I think your stats are correct but analysis is wrong. When you are winning late, you put the ball into the hands of your best foul shooters who get fouled. When you are losing opponents don't help you out by fouling your best foul shooters and URI is pounding the ball inside to the twins and Walker who are not great foul shooters.

[ace]

I’ve been baffled by a lot of things I’ve seen from Rhody this season, but pulling both Makhi and Makhel from the starting line-up for the last two games is definitely up there. My confusion isn’t about their play- they’ve been anywhere from great to questionable this season. I know coaches are often cagey about the decisions they make, but I honestly do not get it. He said he liked the energy the Martin/Walker combo brought? What? Was there supposed to be a message being sent to… someone? That he can be flexible or demanding or punitive or something? With the track record, I know the answer might not be anything more than desperation, but I want to know.

[ATPTourFan]

How about that outlet pass with 30 seconds left following the Joe's turnover? TV crew was shocked.