2022 Coaching Carousel
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:41 pm
Chris Mack out at Louisville
Good luck with that, you have their #'s.
I know the neighborhood they offered Hurley to stay, not the other promises.
Nah bro. 2.2 mil by 2021, significant increase in coaches pool, chartered flights to all away games, and breaking ground on new practice facility.
If we want the splash hire that’s what it costs.bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago I think it’s a bit cray to think we will offer our next coach what we offered Dan off the heels of back to back conference championships and NCAA wins. I don’t see that happening.
I want the coach who will get us back to the tournament and top of the conference. That isn’t necessarily the splashiest. Ed Cooley wasn’t a splashy hire at the time and that’s turned out pretty well. I can’t imagine a scenario where we throw 2.5-3mm at a new hire.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years agoIf we want the splash hire that’s what it costs.bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago I think it’s a bit cray to think we will offer our next coach what we offered Dan off the heels of back to back conference championships and NCAA wins. I don’t see that happening.
Yeah makes a lot of sense , Sean Miller played @ PittJersey77 wrote: ↑2 years ago If Capel is gone from Pitt, watch for one of the Miller bros. to maybe end up there.
They are from the area and would probably love the opportunity to resurrect that program.
As I mentioned before, Turg might go back to the Midwest especially if Kansas State opens up, dismissing Weber.
If Cox is let go, URI doesn't need a "splash" hire. They need a great hire. Don't win the press conference. Win games.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years agoIf we want the splash hire that’s what it costs.bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago I think it’s a bit cray to think we will offer our next coach what we offered Dan off the heels of back to back conference championships and NCAA wins. I don’t see that happening.
You are 100% right.PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑2 years agoIf Cox is let go, URI doesn't need a "splash" hire. They need a great hire. Don't win the press conference. Win games.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years agoIf we want the splash hire that’s what it costs.bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago I think it’s a bit cray to think we will offer our next coach what we offered Dan off the heels of back to back conference championships and NCAA wins. I don’t see that happening.
Or maybe he wants that challenge? They'll never play each other, that much I know. But I'm sure he wants to be closer to his family. He coached here already. And he's not exactly following in Dan's footsteps, he's following Dave Cox's.
Damn Bar have some faith....bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago I think it’s a bit cray to think we will offer our next coach what we offered Dan off the heels of back to back conference championships and NCAA wins. I don’t see that happening.
Lol Stevey. I’m an optimist but as I always say it’s not easy being a fan of an A10 program. Just trying to deal in reality with what I think is and isn’t feasible.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑2 years agoDamn Bar have some faith....bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago I think it’s a bit cray to think we will offer our next coach what we offered Dan off the heels of back to back conference championships and NCAA wins. I don’t see that happening.
Really, 3 Sweet 16's at Indiana and a final 4 when Marquette was at our conference level (C-USA).
I know this is all speculation and very premature at this time.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years agoOr maybe he wants that challenge? They'll never play each other, that much I know. But I'm sure he wants to be closer to his family. He coached here already. And he's not exactly following in Dan's footsteps, he's following Dave Cox's.
I mean yea, this is definitely a pipe dream and I put it in the below 5% likelihood of happening. But it's more fun to talk about than finding a new way to explain how our head coach now sucks.
Yeah I'll be taking no hard passes on big name coaches with winning track records.Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years agoReally, 3 Sweet 16's at Indiana and a final 4 when Marquette was at our conference level (C-USA).
I agree maybe not a good fit here, but I wouldn't give him a hard pass.
I think Bobby would have zero interest in coaching at 1) the school that his brother left and 2) the school that fired or dealt with the resignation of his brother's lead assistant. Why would he want all that baggage? I think there are schools similar to URI - Richmond, for example - that are also going to have openings soon, that don't come with all that baggage.Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years agoI know this is all speculation and very premature at this time.Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years agoOr maybe he wants that challenge? They'll never play each other, that much I know. But I'm sure he wants to be closer to his family. He coached here already. And he's not exactly following in Dan's footsteps, he's following Dave Cox's.
I mean yea, this is definitely a pipe dream and I put it in the below 5% likelihood of happening. But it's more fun to talk about than finding a new way to explain how our head coach now sucks.
But should there be an opening here, I actually believe Bobby Hurley wouldn't be a bad fit.
His brother is less than an hour, he is relatively close to home.
He has coached here and liked the area.
He also has the recruiting connections in the Northeast.
Archie would still be high on my list, but I doubt he would end up here.
To me the goal should be getting a young, up-and-coming guy with head coaching experience. Not an older coach who will cost more and whose best years may very well be behind him.Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years agoReally, 3 Sweet 16's at Indiana and a final 4 when Marquette was at our conference level (C-USA).
I agree maybe not a good fit here, but I wouldn't give him a hard pass.
I wouldn't dismiss Crean, not exactly over-the-hill, in his mid-fifties, younger than when Kraft came here.SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑2 years agoTo me the goal should be getting a young, up-and-coming guy with head coaching experience. Not an older coach who will cost more and whose best years may very well be behind him.
If you think there is a faction here that would want Pitino can you imagine what’s going on behind the scenes at Louisville right now.rambone 78 wrote: ↑2 years ago I would have no problem with another Jack Kraft type. Finish his career here.
But who out there would fit that bill?
And no...Pitino without the baggage would, but not happening.
Tom Crean...ummm, no. Not highly thought of, not liked in the college coaching circles. He's been described as a phony, somebody he thinks his own you know what doesn't stink. Needs to check his ego.Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years agoReally, 3 Sweet 16's at Indiana and a final 4 when Marquette was at our conference level (C-USA).
I agree maybe not a good fit here, but I wouldn't give him a hard pass.
Don't disagree with a lot of that, wasn't a fan, that's why I didn't think a good fit.PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑2 years agoTom Crean...ummm, no. Not highly thought of, not liked in the college coaching circles. He's been described as a phony, somebody he thinks his own you know what doesn't stink. Needs to check his ego.
I agree with everything you're saying, and you are probably right on track of what Thorr will do.PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑2 years ago Again, if Cox is let go then don't think "splash" hire. Think great hire. Somebody who has a legitimate track record of coaching, instructing, leading, winning...
You think Steve Pikiell was a "splash" hire at Rutgers?? Micah Shrewsberry at Penn State? Steve Forbes at ETSU and Wake Forest? Not a splash hire.
URI would have to do some major research, talk to a lot of people in the coaching profession (and perhaps connected to it via the media) to find a good fit. It's not as easy as "hey, go get Archie Miller...or Chris Mack (who now has baggage by the way)"...or whoever the flavor of the day is to be the coach.
I'm kind of with you in that I want someone with head coaching experience, although I'm not particular about whether it's a power conference to A10, "reestablish career" guy, or, a lower conference to A10, "coach on the rise" type. Even with the transfer rules in place allowing for more immediate reloads, with the regression Leggett has had this year, we don't have one player on the roster right now that you can point to and say, "Hey, let's build around him." It's still easier to recruit that kind of player as an incoming freshman than to get them on the transfer market, which I think an established HC can do moreso than a well-respected assistant coach. (I also think a good portion of this year's roster, regardless of whether Cox is here or someone else is here, will still be on the 2022-23 roster, and I'm kind of interested to see if a coaching change would result in different performance.)section(105) wrote: ↑2 years ago ……..my focus is not as much on names kicked around, but more on what I don’t want……..no more the hot assistant route, need an individual with prior D1 successful coaching track record couple of stops along the way, fine…….progressive record in program building……..no more OJT…….I am sure folks are gonna show recent names that have moved up………our program is not exactly stable right now, so strong leader/teacher is needed……..paying for that?…….way above my paid grade……..all teams needing a coach looking similar?……..sure, there is a fit for us out there…….no?
I was in high school when he was hired, so I might be overlooking the context. But I think you're right in portraying that as a "safe" hire, veering too much into a conservative one. Like, Baron finished his Bonaventure tenure with a .502 winning percentage, which seems like the perfect number in hindsight. I think the only way to replicate that would be to like, hire Chris Mooney if he got fired.rambone 78 wrote: ↑2 years ago Let's not hire the "safe hire"...we all know how that turned out......well those of us old enough to remember hiring Baron.....
……..I think the coach I am envisioning would look at the big man assets we have, look at the film and quickly determine the path forward to not to put up with the shit we have seen……..how many coaching vacancies are there going to be at our level with two poorly trained with huge potential big men?……..of course the wild card is their agent/mother……..if they go, fine……..SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years agoI'm kind of with you in that I want someone with head coaching experience, although I'm not particular about whether it's a power conference to A10, "reestablish career" guy, or, a lower conference to A10, "coach on the rise" type. Even with the transfer rules in place allowing for more immediate reloads, with the regression Leggett has had this year, we don't have one player on the roster right now that you can point to and say, "Hey, let's build around him." It's still easier to recruit that kind of player as an incoming freshman than to get them on the transfer market, which I think an established HC can do moreso than a well-respected assistant coach. (I also think a good portion of this year's roster, regardless of whether Cox is here or someone else is here, will still be on the 2022-23 roster, and I'm kind of interested to see if a coaching change would result in different performance.)section(105) wrote: ↑2 years ago ……..my focus is not as much on names kicked around, but more on what I don’t want……..no more the hot assistant route, need an individual with prior D1 successful coaching track record couple of stops along the way, fine…….progressive record in program building……..no more OJT…….I am sure folks are gonna show recent names that have moved up………our program is not exactly stable right now, so strong leader/teacher is needed……..paying for that?…….way above my paid grade……..all teams needing a coach looking similar?……..sure, there is a fit for us out there…….no?
Again though, as frustrating as our big men have been, they're the *best* part of this team. I complain about Walker only getting 20 minutes in the last game as much as anyone, but the bigger need is to bring in or coach up more guard and wing talent. If they're interviewing for a new coach, the thing he should identify as our biggest weakness is the backcourt, not the frontcourt.section(105) wrote: ↑2 years ago……..I think the coach I am envisioning would look at the big man assets we have, look at the film and quickly determine the path forward to not to put up with the shit we have seen……..how many coaching vacancies are there going to be at our level with two poorly trained with huge potential big men?……..of course the wild card is their agent/mother……..if they go, fine……..SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years agoI'm kind of with you in that I want someone with head coaching experience, although I'm not particular about whether it's a power conference to A10, "reestablish career" guy, or, a lower conference to A10, "coach on the rise" type. Even with the transfer rules in place allowing for more immediate reloads, with the regression Leggett has had this year, we don't have one player on the roster right now that you can point to and say, "Hey, let's build around him." It's still easier to recruit that kind of player as an incoming freshman than to get them on the transfer market, which I think an established HC can do moreso than a well-respected assistant coach. (I also think a good portion of this year's roster, regardless of whether Cox is here or someone else is here, will still be on the 2022-23 roster, and I'm kind of interested to see if a coaching change would result in different performance.)section(105) wrote: ↑2 years ago ……..my focus is not as much on names kicked around, but more on what I don’t want……..no more the hot assistant route, need an individual with prior D1 successful coaching track record couple of stops along the way, fine…….progressive record in program building……..no more OJT…….I am sure folks are gonna show recent names that have moved up………our program is not exactly stable right now, so strong leader/teacher is needed……..paying for that?…….way above my paid grade……..all teams needing a coach looking similar?……..sure, there is a fit for us out there…….no?
He was one of the four finalists when we hired Cox, so I'm sure he would be looked at
Safe hire. Wouldn't hate it, but it wouldn't immediately get me running to celebrate either.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑2 years agoHe was one of the four finalists when we hired Cox, so I'm sure he would be looked at
It’s a pass for me tell me we can do much better !!Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years agoSafe hire. Wouldn't hate it, but it wouldn't immediately get me running to celebrate either.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑2 years agoHe was one of the four finalists when we hired Cox, so I'm sure he would be looked at