2022 Coaching Carousel

[Ramfan22]

Must of been the extreme Hair Gel usage

[Rhode_Island_Red]

The timing of Kellogg's firing was probably tied to LIU's fiscal calendar. The fiscal year ends on June 30th for many schools. Kellogg was hired five years ago back in 2017. My guess is that his contract likely ended tomorrow. Goodman speculated at his hiring that his contract was expected to be for five years. If that was the case, he probably knew something was up having not been renewed. LIU has already announced that ex-Knick Rod Strickland will replace him. Would seem this was not some snap decision.

It's kind of bizarre timing - It doesn't seem like they saved any money, so why not just fire him in March or April? Have to think they'll have a couple transfers because of this, although, maybe not. Rod Strickland is a "name" at least. (Also, kind of surprising he's now a coach, given his reputation as a professional, ha.)

IIRC, it was the great Peter Vecsey who named him Rod Strichnine.

[ramster]

Some October Coaching Carousel news from 247Friars board
Bob Walsh leaving Fryuzzz to take lead Assistant job at Iona. Maybe setting up to take Pitino’s place one day?

[Rhody74]

Some October Coaching Carousel news from 247Friars board
Bob Walsh leaving Fryuzzz to take lead Assistant job at Iona. Maybe setting up to take Pitino’s place one day?

Interesting timing. Good basketball mind.

[LIRAM]

Wishing Coach Walsh all the best. Maine is a tough place to win but his four year experiment as a division one coach was horrific. 24-100 never gets you another look. Some of you guys used to throw his name around here.....
Iona has been a good job for quite some time. When Rick leaves they will make a quality hire. I'm sure you were joking when suggesting they might hire Coach Walsh. He is a good basketball guy who is from upstate NY. Was a grad assistant at Iona and went to Hamilton. More like him just going home.

[Jersey77]

Wishing Coach Walsh all the best. Maine is a tough place to win but his four year experiment as a division one coach was horrific. 24-100 never gets you another look. Some of you guys used to throw his name around here.....
Iona has been a good job for quite some time. When Rick leaves they will make a quality hire. I'm sure you were joking when suggesting they might hire Coach Walsh. He is a good basketball guy who is from upstate NY. Was a grad assistant at Iona and went to Hamilton. More like him just going home.

Also probably a bump from being Assoc Dir. of Player, Development, Scouting, Reruiting.
Spot probably vacated by Tom Abatemarco who is turning 73 and had something like 20 different stops, including working under Jimmy V at NC State.

[reef]

Wishing Coach Walsh all the best. Maine is a tough place to win but his four year experiment as a division one coach was horrific. 24-100 never gets you another look. Some of you guys used to throw his name around here.....
Iona has been a good job for quite some time. When Rick leaves they will make a quality hire. I'm sure you were joking when suggesting they might hire Coach Walsh. He is a good basketball guy who is from upstate NY. Was a grad assistant at Iona and went to Hamilton. More like him just going home.

Also probably a bump from being Assoc Dir. of Player, Development, Scouting, Reruiting.
Spot probably vacated by Tom Abatemarco who is turning 73 and had something like 20 different stops, including working under Jimmy V at NC State.

Great knowledge 77 he was on the bench for the 83 title team

[ace]

Yeah, he was probably too over-qualified for his role with PC, but a volunteer job? I guess he sees the benefit of getting in with Pitino and Iona now with the role likely being open for good next season.

[PCFriars]

This is a sneaky big loss and the timing is surprising. Lots of respect for coach Walsh. He wasn’t getting paid at PC either from what I understand.

[Rhody15]

Jeez, didn't think that Maine buyout was that big where he could just volunteer for two+ years.

[ramster]

Cooley making $4+ million a year and Walsh gets zero?

[Jersey77]

Cooley making $4+ million a year and Walsh gets zero?

Maybe he felt the privilege of working with Cooley was worth it.

[SmartyBarrett]

Yeah, he was probably too over-qualified for his role with PC, but a volunteer job? I guess he sees the benefit of getting in with Pitino and Iona now with the role likely being open for good next season.

That's definitely the face I'd make if I wasn't getting paid.

[ramster]

Cooley making $4+ million a year and Walsh gets zero?

Maybe he felt the privilege of working with Cooley was worth it.

How can you pay the guy nothing, zero, zilch?
He’s listed right on the Roster for last year
Cooley makes $4+ million a YEAR!

PC has 10,000+ season ticket holders
They play in the Big East with a huge media package

Is it even legal to not pay the guy at all? No medical benefits? No nothin? Never heard of the before except at PC and now Iona. How cheap can a school get. Let the money go to NIL I guess.

What cheap SOB’s

I need Rhode Island Red to weigh in on this one.

[section(105)]

I think for one more chance to get on the carousel wheel for the bigger jobs, lifer coaches sometimes make crazy career decisions to stay in the game, tough for these guys to give it up

[Jersey77]

Cooley making $4+ million a year and Walsh gets zero?

Maybe he felt the privilege of working with Cooley was worth it.

How can you pay the guy nothing, zero, zilch?
He’s listed right on the Roster for last year
Cooley makes $4+ million a YEAR!

PC has 10,000+ season ticket holders
They play in the Big East with a huge media package

Is it even legal to not pay the guy at all? No medical benefits? No nothin? Never heard of the before except at PC and now Iona. How cheap can a school get. Let the money go to NIL I guess.

What cheap SOB’s

I need Rhode Island Red to weigh in on this one.

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Ramster, I thought that would rile you up.

Aside from PCFriar's post on what he may have heard, do we actually know for sure Walsh was not getting compensated?

The position at Iona is probably a very temporary "volunteer' job until Abatemarco's permanent departure will be made official.

[reef]

That’s very odd if Walsh didn’t have some kind of salary , he’s 50 years old usually the unpaid staffers are the guys right out of college??

[ramster]

From article by Kevin Farrahar, Oct 2,

Once again, things have come full circle for Walsh, who got his Masters degree and his start in coaching at Iona. The Gaels are a MAAC power and finished 25-8 overall and 17-3 in conference games last season. They will contend for an NCAA Tournament berth this season.

Smart move by Iona

[ramster]

From Iona message board….



Adam Nelson
@HD_DirtKing
Quick update here….
Former Iona assistant Tom Abatemarco had to move to the West Coast to help care for a sick family member. He is 100% not retiring, and will definitely be looking to get back into coaching next season.

[Jersey77]

From Iona message board….



Adam Nelson
@HD_DirtKing
Quick update here….
Former Iona assistant Tom Abatemarco had to move to the West Coast to help care for a sick family member. He is 100% not retiring, and will definitely be looking to get back into coaching next season.

He just turned 73 and had around 20 coaching stops already.
You would think it's about time to give it up.
Maybe he stays out there and lands a HS position or some small school.

[ramster]

From Iona message board….



Adam Nelson
@HD_DirtKing
Quick update here….
Former Iona assistant Tom Abatemarco had to move to the West Coast to help care for a sick family member. He is 100% not retiring, and will definitely be looking to get back into coaching next season.

He just turned 73 and had around 20 coaching stops already.
You would think it's about time to give it up.
Maybe he stays out there and lands a HS position or some small school.

At 73?
Have you checked the ages of McConnell, Pelosi, Dr Fauci, Biden, Trump, Portman, Feinstein, Grassley? And these people travel a lot throughout the year.
Basketball HC’s can have their Assistants do the recruiting travel, recruit on zoom, season runs November to March. Keeps them active and young. 73 is not old for many people especially those who keep themselves in good shape as most basketball coaches do.

[Jersey77]

From Iona message board….



Adam Nelson
@HD_DirtKing
Quick update here….
Former Iona assistant Tom Abatemarco had to move to the West Coast to help care for a sick family member. He is 100% not retiring, and will definitely be looking to get back into coaching next season.

He just turned 73 and had around 20 coaching stops already.
You would think it's about time to give it up.
Maybe he stays out there and lands a HS position or some small school.

At 73?
Have you checked the ages of McConnell, Pelosi, Dr Fauci, Biden, Trump, Portman, Feinstein, Grassley? And these people travel a lot throughout the year.
Basketball HC’s can have their Assistants do the recruiting travel, recruit on zoom, season runs November to March. Keeps them active and young. 73 is not old for many people especially those who keep themselves in good shape as most basketball coaches do.

Not exactly that old, because I will be there in the not too-distant future.
But at his position, an assistant in the coaching profession, that is pushing it.
Especially as much as he moved around.

Don't really know his personal situation but I guess to each his own.

[Rhody15]

Cooley making $4+ million a year and Walsh gets zero?

Maybe he felt the privilege of working with Cooley was worth it.

How can you pay the guy nothing, zero, zilch?
He’s listed right on the Roster for last year
Cooley makes $4+ million a YEAR!

PC has 10,000+ season ticket holders
They play in the Big East with a huge media package

Is it even legal to not pay the guy at all? No medical benefits? No nothin? Never heard of the before except at PC and now Iona. How cheap can a school get. Let the money go to NIL I guess.

What cheap SOB’s

I need Rhode Island Red to weigh in on this one.

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Alabama football is known for giving fired big time coaches like Steve Sarkisian, Lane Kiffin, Mike Locksley, Butch Jones, and Jim McElwain a 30K or less salary as like an assistant football analyst or something along those lines. Surely they have more money to give those guys a legitimate salary.

I'm expecting you to get very riled up now about Alabama being cheap and not paying those coaches more money.

I hope you're trolling with your post, because I doubt many people here care even 1% about how much you seem to care about PC not paying Walsh.

[ramster]

Maybe he felt the privilege of working with Cooley was worth it.

How can you pay the guy nothing, zero, zilch?
He’s listed right on the Roster for last year
Cooley makes $4+ million a YEAR!

PC has 10,000+ season ticket holders
They play in the Big East with a huge media package

Is it even legal to not pay the guy at all? No medical benefits? No nothin? Never heard of the before except at PC and now Iona. How cheap can a school get. Let the money go to NIL I guess.

What cheap SOB’s

I need Rhode Island Red to weigh in on this one.

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Alabama football is known for giving fired big time coaches like Steve Sarkisian, Lane Kiffin, Mike Locksley, Butch Jones, and Jim McElwain a 30K or less salary as like an assistant football analyst or something along those lines. Surely they have more money to give those guys a legitimate salary.

I'm expecting you to get very riled up now about Alabama being cheap and not paying those coaches more money.

I hope you're trolling with your post, because I doubt many people here care even 1% about how much you seem to care about PC not paying Walsh.

Maybe Cooley slips him a few bucks under the table.

[RhodyKyle]

Maybe he felt the privilege of working with Cooley was worth it.

How can you pay the guy nothing, zero, zilch?
He’s listed right on the Roster for last year
Cooley makes $4+ million a YEAR!

PC has 10,000+ season ticket holders
They play in the Big East with a huge media package

Is it even legal to not pay the guy at all? No medical benefits? No nothin? Never heard of the before except at PC and now Iona. How cheap can a school get. Let the money go to NIL I guess.

What cheap SOB’s

I need Rhode Island Red to weigh in on this one.

54E4EEFD-7C37-4DBB-B7B1-071BCFDCAA64.jpeg

Alabama football is known for giving fired big time coaches like Steve Sarkisian, Lane Kiffin, Mike Locksley, Butch Jones, and Jim McElwain a 30K or less salary as like an assistant football analyst or something along those lines. Surely they have more money to give those guys a legitimate salary.

I'm expecting you to get very riled up now about Alabama being cheap and not paying those coaches more money.

I hope you're trolling with your post, because I doubt many people here care even 1% about how much you seem to care about PC not paying Walsh.

Wait until he learns about unpaid internships and people volunteering at other nonprofit organizations. Those cheapskates skirting labor laws! (Obviously being sarcastic at the end there)

[ramster]

How can you pay the guy nothing, zero, zilch?
He’s listed right on the Roster for last year
Cooley makes $4+ million a YEAR!

PC has 10,000+ season ticket holders
They play in the Big East with a huge media package

Is it even legal to not pay the guy at all? No medical benefits? No nothin? Never heard of the before except at PC and now Iona. How cheap can a school get. Let the money go to NIL I guess.

What cheap SOB’s

I need Rhode Island Red to weigh in on this one.

54E4EEFD-7C37-4DBB-B7B1-071BCFDCAA64.jpeg

Alabama football is known for giving fired big time coaches like Steve Sarkisian, Lane Kiffin, Mike Locksley, Butch Jones, and Jim McElwain a 30K or less salary as like an assistant football analyst or something along those lines. Surely they have more money to give those guys a legitimate salary.

I'm expecting you to get very riled up now about Alabama being cheap and not paying those coaches more money.

I hope you're trolling with your post, because I doubt many people here care even 1% about how much you seem to care about PC not paying Walsh.

Wait until he learns about unpaid internships and people volunteering at other nonprofit organizations. Those cheapskates skirting labor laws! (Obviously being sarcastic at the end there)

Unpaid internships and volunteering?
What does that have to do with a Basketball program paying their HC $4 million plus, have 10,000 season ticket holders, get huge money from BE TV contract?
But if Walsh wants to work for free more power to him. Guess he sees it as an investment in his future.
Here we are complaining about not paying Assistant Coaches enough at URI. Maybe Cooley has it right.

[Bos8]

Maybe he felt the privilege of working with Cooley was worth it.

How can you pay the guy nothing, zero, zilch?
He’s listed right on the Roster for last year
Cooley makes $4+ million a YEAR!

PC has 10,000+ season ticket holders
They play in the Big East with a huge media package

Is it even legal to not pay the guy at all? No medical benefits? No nothin? Never heard of the before except at PC and now Iona. How cheap can a school get. Let the money go to NIL I guess.

What cheap SOB’s

I need Rhode Island Red to weigh in on this one.

54E4EEFD-7C37-4DBB-B7B1-071BCFDCAA64.jpeg

Alabama football is known for giving fired big time coaches like Steve Sarkisian, Lane Kiffin, Mike Locksley, Butch Jones, and Jim McElwain a 30K or less salary as like an assistant football analyst or something along those lines. Surely they have more money to give those guys a legitimate salary.

I'm expecting you to get very riled up now about Alabama being cheap and not paying those coaches more money.

I hope you're trolling with your post, because I doubt many people here care even 1% about how much you seem to care about PC not paying Walsh.

One thing I've learned is to not "pocket check" another individual. You have no idea their financial situation. Maybe money isn't a concern? Wealth in the family, wife could have a high paying job in the area which limits his opportunities. Maybe he has a side business or another position at the University that pays him. Who knows? Not my concern. What he is making is between him, his family and the school. There is a cost/reward to this. Maybe he makes more at another school, but the opportunity isn't the same to learn from an established experienced coach with outstanding connections.

[Jersey77]

[steviep123]

[Rhody74]

Odd timing.

[SmartyBarrett]

[Ramfan22]

Sounds like Steve Masiello demanded a large contract extension and Manhattan didn’t want to commit.

[theblueram]

He was a lame duck coach this year anyway. The school should have fired him in the spring and hired a new coach.

[reef]

Masiello played and coached under Pitino he’s been @ Manhattan for a long time

[Jersey77]

It would appear that this entire situation with Masiello was handled extremely poorly.
The student athletes are the ones that suffer.

The administration should have made a decision right after last season to either give him some type of extension or let him go.
Never a good thing to go into the season as a lame duck coach.
Now they let him go less than 2 weeks prior to the start of 22-23.

It's sad that this was expected to be their break-out year (picked 2nd by the coaches) after 7 straight non-winng seasons following 2 straight NCAAT bids.
Also having the best player in the MAAC who now just entered the portal.

[Rhody72]

...
The administration should have made a decision right after last season to either give him some type of extension or let him go.
Never a good thing to go into the season as a lame duck coach.
...

Eerily similar to my take on Thorr's handling of Cox.

[Rhody74]

...
The administration should have made a decision right after last season to either give him some type of extension or let him go.
Never a good thing to go into the season as a lame duck coach.
...

Eerily similar to my take on Thorr's handling of Cox.

Not even close.

[section(105)]

Maybe Manhattan should give Gordie Chiesa a call, after all, coaches coach……

[Blue Man]

...
The administration should have made a decision right after last season to either give him some type of extension or let him go.
Never a good thing to go into the season as a lame duck coach.
...

Eerily similar to my take on Thorr's handling of Cox.

*opens window

*climbs up on table

*picks up megaphone

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[Jersey77]

...
The administration should have made a decision right after last season to either give him some type of extension or let him go.
Never a good thing to go into the season as a lame duck coach.
...

Eerily similar to my take on Thorr's handling of Cox.

Not even close.

Actually Thorr handled Cox's situation perfectly.
He was fired March 11, almost 8 months prior to the start of 22-23, and hired Archie on March 17.

[RhodyKyle]

Eerily similar to my take on Thorr's handling of Cox.

Not even close.

Actually Thorr handled Cox's situation perfectly.
He was fired March 11, almost 8 months prior to the start of 22-23, and hired Archie on March 17.

Plus Cox wasn't going into a final year of his contract. He received 2 year's pay as a buyout, if I recall correctly.

[Blue Man]

Not even close.

Actually Thorr handled Cox's situation perfectly.
He was fired March 11, almost 8 months prior to the start of 22-23, and hired Archie on March 17.

Plus Cox wasn't going into a final year of his contract. He received 2 year's pay as a buyout, if I recall correctly.

No use making rational points to someone who wears a hockey helmet to bed and a mask alone in their car.

[Rhode_Island_Red]

Cooley making $4+ million a year and Walsh gets zero?

Maybe he felt the privilege of working with Cooley was worth it.

How can you pay the guy nothing, zero, zilch?
He’s listed right on the Roster for last year
Cooley makes $4+ million a YEAR!

PC has 10,000+ season ticket holders
They play in the Big East with a huge media package

Is it even legal to not pay the guy at all? No medical benefits? No nothin? Never heard of the before except at PC and now Iona. How cheap can a school get. Let the money go to NIL I guess.

What cheap SOB’s

I need Rhode Island Red to weigh in on this one.

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Nuf ced. Typical mental hospital.

[RhodyKyle]

Actually Thorr handled Cox's situation perfectly.
He was fired March 11, almost 8 months prior to the start of 22-23, and hired Archie on March 17.

Plus Cox wasn't going into a final year of his contract. He received 2 year's pay as a buyout, if I recall correctly.

No use making rational points to someone who wears a hockey helmet to bed and a mask alone in their car.

They likely don't wear a mask alone in the car. How else would they lick the windows?

[Jersey77]

Not good for #7 Texas or Beard.

[Rhody72]

According to Austin Police:

On December 12, 2022, at approximately 12:15 a.m., the Austin Police
Department (APD) received a 9-1-1 call for a disturbance in the 1900
block of Vista Lane. The caller reported the disturbance was no longer
ongoing and one of the individuals had left the house. APD officers
esponded and located a woman who stated she had been assaulted and
strangled by Christopher Michael Beard.
===
Chris Beard's bond hearing.

Conditions: must stay 200 yards away from victim. Can communicate via text,
phone but in a non-threatening way. Must stay 200 yards away from house.
===
BREAKING: Prominent Austin attorney Perry Minton, representing Beard says:
"Coach Beard is 100 percent innocent of these charges. He should have
never been arrested. The complainant wants him released immediately and
all charges dismissed. It is truly inconceivable."
===
The University of Texas has suspended basketball coach Chris Beard "until
futher notice" after he was arrested and charged with assault on a family
or household member at 4:18 a.m. Monday. Beard, 49, faces a third-degree
felony charge of assault against a family member by impeding breath or
circulation.

[Jersey77]

He is the 2nd coach I am aware of that had been arrested in the past 2 weeks for domestic assault.
The other was Micky Joseph who was the interim head coach at Nebraska football this past season.

Must be that time of year.

[STC]

[Jersey77]

Chris Beard is most likely gone, along with his HC career at least for the near future or until this blows over.
Maybe Texas wishes Shaka was still there.

[Jdrums#3]

Good foresight, Jersey. Texas fires Beard.

I wonder which coaches will be on their radar?