Congratulations Jeff! I can think of no other player that deserves this as much as you do. Keep working hard and representing URI
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:27 pm
by Rhody15
Hopefully he survives the cuts and makes the full time NBA roster.
My guess is it'll be a 2 way deal or full G League.
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:52 pm
by Taylor Swift
I really love when everything in life comes full circle. I had an Orlando Magic Starter Jacket in 5th grade. Wish I still had that badboy.
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:08 am
by RhodyKyle
I hope Jeff gets to log NBA minutes at PG this season and then Cox watches those minutes before sitting in the corner wearing his dunce cap thinking about how he pulled Jeff off the point for 2 seasons.
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:46 pm
by Rhody72
RhodyKyle wrote: ↑2 years ago
I hope Jeff gets to log NBA minutes at PG this season and then Cox watches those minutes before sitting in the corner wearing his dunce cap thinking about how he pulled Jeff off the point for 2 seasons.
This is crazy talk. Should Jim Harrick wear a dunce cap for taking Cat off the point in favor of Tyson Wheeler? I have been of Jeff Dowtin fan since before he stepped on the court for URI and never waivered. Stop putting down our coach because he didn't want a ~5'10" off-guard.
RhodyKyle wrote: ↑2 years ago
I hope Jeff gets to log NBA minutes at PG this season and then Cox watches those minutes before sitting in the corner wearing his dunce cap thinking about how he pulled Jeff off the point for 2 seasons.
This is crazy talk. Should Jim Harrick wear a dunce cap for taking Cat off the point in favor of Tyson Wheeler? I have been of Jeff Dowtin fan since before he stepped on the court for URI and never waivered. Stop putting down our coach because he didn't want a ~5'10" off-guard.
Was Cat a PG in high school? Draft Express says he was a SG at Cardinal Dougherty High.
Edit: As for 5'10" off guards, Celtics sure did well with Eddie House as a SG. Eddie is like 5'6" with platform shoes on.
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:14 pm
by rhodylaw
RhodyKyle wrote: ↑2 years ago
I hope Jeff gets to log NBA minutes at PG this season and then Cox watches those minutes before sitting in the corner wearing his dunce cap thinking about how he pulled Jeff off the point for 2 seasons.
Just don’t get this take at all - he developed a 3 star, not even top 150 player into a borderline NBA player. He would not be there if he was the pass-first PG he was his first two years. His offensive game improved dramatically in his last two years playing off the ball.
RhodyKyle wrote: ↑2 years ago
I hope Jeff gets to log NBA minutes at PG this season and then Cox watches those minutes before sitting in the corner wearing his dunce cap thinking about how he pulled Jeff off the point for 2 seasons.
Just don’t get this take at all - he developed a 3 star, not even top 150 player into a borderline NBA player. He would not be there if he was the pass-first PG he was his first two years. His offensive game improved dramatically in his last two years playing off the ball.
I don't think his off the ball skills are why Orlando signed him.
His eFG% his so, Jr, and sr years:
49.1, 53.2, 48.2
Not showing steady growth
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:26 am
by Rhody72
RhodyKyle wrote: ↑2 years ago
Was Cat a PG in high school? Draft Express says he was a SG at Cardinal Dougherty High.
Edit: As for 5'10" off guards, Celtics sure did well with Eddie House as a SG. Eddie is like 5'6" with platform shoes on.
Cat may have been a forward in Junior High School but he was a PG at URI under Al Skinner after prepping after HS. Cat had a very good NBA career while Tyson had a cup=of=coffee in the NBA. What Cat played in HS is irrelevant.
My point was that Cox can hardly be called a dunce, as you said, for moving Jeff to SG with Fatts needing to start.
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:27 am
by Rhody72
RhodyKyle wrote: ↑2 years ago
Was Cat a PG in high school? Draft Express says he was a SG at Cardinal Dougherty High.
Edit: As for 5'10" off guards, Celtics sure did well with Eddie House as a SG. Eddie is like 5'6" with platform shoes on.
Cat may have been a forward in Junior High School but he was a PG at URI under Al Skinner after prepping after HS. Cat had a very good NBA career while Tyson had a cup=of=coffee in the NBA. What Cat played in HS is irrelevant.
My point was that Cox can hardly be called a dunce, as you said, for moving Jeff to SG with Fatts needing to start.
RhodyKyle wrote: ↑2 years ago
Was Cat a PG in high school? Draft Express says he was a SG at Cardinal Dougherty High.
Edit: As for 5'10" off guards, Celtics sure did well with Eddie House as a SG. Eddie is like 5'6" with platform shoes on.
Cat may have been a forward in Junior High School but he was a PG at URI under Al Skinner after prepping after HS. Cat had a very good NBA career while Tyson had a cup=of=coffee in the NBA. What Cat played in HS is irrelevant.
My point was that Cox can hardly be called a dunce, as you said, for moving Jeff to SG with Fatts needing to start.
The real question is would the team have been better with Jeff at PG full time. IMO yes they would have; and Cox made a mistake with how he handled that situation. It's ancient history anyway. Let's see how we do this year.
RhodyKyle wrote: ↑2 years ago
Was Cat a PG in high school? Draft Express says he was a SG at Cardinal Dougherty High.
Edit: As for 5'10" off guards, Celtics sure did well with Eddie House as a SG. Eddie is like 5'6" with platform shoes on.
Cat may have been a forward in Junior High School but he was a PG at URI under Al Skinner after prepping after HS. Cat had a very good NBA career while Tyson had a cup=of=coffee in the NBA. What Cat played in HS is irrelevant.
My point was that Cox can hardly be called a dunce, as you said, for moving Jeff to SG with Fatts needing to start.
What are you even talking about 72. Tyson Wheeler was the PG for Rhody from the day he stepped on campus. Cat was an athletic 2G. All Harrick did was have more offense run through Cat and gave him the confidence to be more assertive. He was never a PG at Rhody or in high school. Stop the nonsense.
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 12:58 pm
by Jersey77
Enough already with the Dowtin/Fatts PG debate.
None on this board attended all the practices with these 2 players nor understood the dynamics of the situation.
First of all Fatts was recruited to Rhody strictly as a PG, period. Do you really feel he would of been an effective SG at 5'10" shooting at maybe 35%FG and 28% 3pt, would he of even stayed in that role? Most of you would of criticized Cox for running him off.
After all he did average 4.5 assists his last 2 years, not completely horrible.
I also very much doubt the end results for us would of been much different if things were reversed, maybe worse.
Besides, most believe Maryland will be starting him at the PG position on a top 25 team.
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 1:30 pm
by steveystuds06
Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years ago
Enough already with the Dowtin/Fatts PG debate.
None on this board attended all the practices with these 2 players nor understood the dynamics of the situation.
First of all Fatts was recruited to Rhody strictly as a PG, period. Do you really feel he would of been an effective SG at 5'10" shooting at maybe 35%FG and 28% 3pt, would he of even stayed in that role? Most of you would of criticized Cox for running him off.
After all he did average 4.5 assists his last 2 years, not completely horrible.
I also very much doubt the end results for us would of been much different if things were reversed, maybe worse.
Besides, most believe Maryland will be starting him at the PG position on a top 25 team.
Let’s say Maryland had Jeff. He ends up being one of the most efficient point guards in the country and is a huge part of two of the most successful seasons in their program's history. Do you honestly think they would take Jeff off the role he’s been so successful in and give the ball to a streaky guard like Fatts Russell? Absolutely not. I’m all for defending Cox and giving him a chance this season but playing Jeff at the 2 was a huge mistake.
Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years ago
Enough already with the Dowtin/Fatts PG debate.
None on this board attended all the practices with these 2 players nor understood the dynamics of the situation.
First of all Fatts was recruited to Rhody strictly as a PG, period. Do you really feel he would of been an effective SG at 5'10" shooting at maybe 35%FG and 28% 3pt, would he of even stayed in that role? Most of you would of criticized Cox for running him off.
After all he did average 4.5 assists his last 2 years, not completely horrible.
I also very much doubt the end results for us would of been much different if things were reversed, maybe worse.
Besides, most believe Maryland will be starting him at the PG position on a top 25 team.
Let’s say Maryland had Jeff. He ends up being one of the most efficient point guards in the country and is a huge part of two of the most successful seasons in their program's history. Do you honestly think they would take Jeff off the role he’s been so successful in and give the ball to a streaky guard like Fatts Russell? Absolutely not. I’m all for defending Cox and giving him a chance this season but playing Jeff at the 2 was a huge mistake.
Stevey I disagree.
First of all what would you of done with Fatts, bench him? Would he of stayed?
I love Jeff but saying he was one of the best PG's in the country is a huge reach.
Second Jeff was effective because he had stars and shooters around him: EC, Jared, Stan, plus Kuran and Hassan his first year.
Nobody knows what Maryland or even DH would of done, so we can't speculate.
There were also times that both shared the duties of handling the ball.
There are things I did question, but this wasn't one of them.
Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years ago
Enough already with the Dowtin/Fatts PG debate.
None on this board attended all the practices with these 2 players nor understood the dynamics of the situation.
First of all Fatts was recruited to Rhody strictly as a PG, period. Do you really feel he would of been an effective SG at 5'10" shooting at maybe 35%FG and 28% 3pt, would he of even stayed in that role? Most of you would of criticized Cox for running him off.
After all he did average 4.5 assists his last 2 years, not completely horrible.
I also very much doubt the end results for us would of been much different if things were reversed, maybe worse.
Besides, most believe Maryland will be starting him at the PG position on a top 25 team.
Let’s say Maryland had Jeff. He ends up being one of the most efficient point guards in the country and is a huge part of two of the most successful seasons in their program's history. Do you honestly think they would take Jeff off the role he’s been so successful in and give the ball to a streaky guard like Fatts Russell? Absolutely not. I’m all for defending Cox and giving him a chance this season but playing Jeff at the 2 was a huge mistake.
Stevey I disagree.
First of all what would you of done with Fatts, bench him? Would he of stayed?
I love Jeff but saying he was one of the best PG's in the country is a huge reach.
Second Jeff was effective because he had stars and shooters around him: EC, Jared, Stan.
Nobody knows what Maryland or even DH would of done, so we can't speculate.
There were also times that both shared the duties of handling the ball.
There are things I did question, but this wasn't one of them.
I said Jeff was one of the most efficient point guards in the country. Plenty of point guards play with talented players and aren't top 3 in the country at assist to turnover ratio as a sophomore.
I'll have to go back and find some of my posts, but I've often gone into great detail on what I would have done with Fatts at the 2. Long story short, I thought Fatts was a better scorer than Jeff. I personally think you want your shooting guard to be the scoring guard and your point guard to run the offense. I felt Fatts shot the ball better, catching the ball with his feet planted than off the dribble. I also thought he could excel as a player that is constantly moving without the ball. It's hard to stick with a player as quick as Fatts. Designed plays with Fatts catching the ball from cutting or off a pick where you get a slower defender on him would have been scary with his ability to slash, finish, draw fouls, and pass it off.
I still would want the ball in Fatts hands a lot, but when you have a point guard like Jeff, he knows when it's time to run the offense and slow things down when Fatts is playing out of control. That's the difference between a good point guard and those rare special point guards like Jeff. Far too many times, Fatts forced it while Jeff stood there. Jeff never looked like the same player once Cox made that wrong decision. Luckily summer league teams saw what type of player Jeff is, and he now has a shot at playing in the NBA or having a great career overseas as a point guard.
Fatts would be the starting point guard on most teams. However, he shouldn't be with a team that has Jeff Dowtin.
Let’s say Maryland had Jeff. He ends up being one of the most efficient point guards in the country and is a huge part of two of the most successful seasons in their program's history. Do you honestly think they would take Jeff off the role he’s been so successful in and give the ball to a streaky guard like Fatts Russell? Absolutely not. I’m all for defending Cox and giving him a chance this season but playing Jeff at the 2 was a huge mistake.
Stevey I disagree.
First of all what would you of done with Fatts, bench him? Would he of stayed?
I love Jeff but saying he was one of the best PG's in the country is a huge reach.
Second Jeff was effective because he had stars and shooters around him: EC, Jared, Stan.
Nobody knows what Maryland or even DH would of done, so we can't speculate.
There were also times that both shared the duties of handling the ball.
There are things I did question, but this wasn't one of them.
I said Jeff was one of the most efficient point guards in the country. Plenty of point guards play with talented players and aren't top 3 in the country at assist to turnover ratio as a sophomore.
I'll have to go back and find some of my posts, but I've often gone into great detail on what I would have done with Fatts at the 2. Long story short, I thought Fatts was a better scorer than Jeff. I personally think you want your shooting guard to be the scoring guard and your point guard to run the offense. I felt Fatts shot the ball better, catching the ball with his feet planted than off the dribble. I also thought he could excel as a player that is constantly moving without the ball. It's hard to stick with a player as quick as Fatts. Designed plays with Fatts catching the ball from cutting or off a pick where you get a slower defender on him would have been scary with his ability to slash, finish, draw fouls, and pass it off.
I still would want the ball in Fatts hands a lot, but when you have a point guard like Jeff, he knows when it's time to run the offense and slow things down when Fatts is playing out of control. That's the difference between a good point guard and those rare special point guards like Jeff. Far too many times, Fatts forced it while Jeff stood there. Jeff never looked like the same player once Cox made that wrong decision. Luckily summer league teams saw what type of player Jeff is, and he now has a shot at playing in the NBA or having a great career overseas as a point guard.
Fatts would be the starting point guard on most teams. However, he shouldn't be with a team that has Jeff Dowtin.
I guess we agree to disagree.
I do think Jeff is more suited as a PG rather than SG, especially at the next level.
But the problem is how do you use Fatts? I feel he would of been lost if taken off the ball.
It would of been a problem for him at SG/CG and a mismatch on both ends of the floor.
He was far from a consistent shooter and was best when beating his defender with the ball and trying to create.
Our biggest problem was we didn't have any reliable shooters, we missed too many open looks.
Fatts didn't have the options that Jeff previously did, as a matter of fact many times Jeff was his most reliable option.
I have to go along with Cox on making the decision he did, because he spent every day on the practice court with them.
I understand his dilemma and how he handled it does make sense to me.
There must of been something DH liked or a reason why he recruited Fatts extremely hard at the PG position.
Stevey I disagree.
First of all what would you of done with Fatts, bench him? Would he of stayed?
I love Jeff but saying he was one of the best PG's in the country is a huge reach.
Second Jeff was effective because he had stars and shooters around him: EC, Jared, Stan.
Nobody knows what Maryland or even DH would of done, so we can't speculate.
There were also times that both shared the duties of handling the ball.
There are things I did question, but this wasn't one of them.
I said Jeff was one of the most efficient point guards in the country. Plenty of point guards play with talented players and aren't top 3 in the country at assist to turnover ratio as a sophomore.
I'll have to go back and find some of my posts, but I've often gone into great detail on what I would have done with Fatts at the 2. Long story short, I thought Fatts was a better scorer than Jeff. I personally think you want your shooting guard to be the scoring guard and your point guard to run the offense. I felt Fatts shot the ball better, catching the ball with his feet planted than off the dribble. I also thought he could excel as a player that is constantly moving without the ball. It's hard to stick with a player as quick as Fatts. Designed plays with Fatts catching the ball from cutting or off a pick where you get a slower defender on him would have been scary with his ability to slash, finish, draw fouls, and pass it off.
I still would want the ball in Fatts hands a lot, but when you have a point guard like Jeff, he knows when it's time to run the offense and slow things down when Fatts is playing out of control. That's the difference between a good point guard and those rare special point guards like Jeff. Far too many times, Fatts forced it while Jeff stood there. Jeff never looked like the same player once Cox made that wrong decision. Luckily summer league teams saw what type of player Jeff is, and he now has a shot at playing in the NBA or having a great career overseas as a point guard.
Fatts would be the starting point guard on most teams. However, he shouldn't be with a team that has Jeff Dowtin.
I guess we agree to disagree.
I do think Jeff is more suited as a PG rather than SG, especially at the next level.
But the problem is how do you use Fatts? I feel he would of been lost if taken off the ball.
It would of been a problem for him at SG/CG and a mismatch on both ends of the floor.
He was far from a consistent shooter and was best when beating his defender with the ball and trying to create.
Our biggest problem was we didn't have any reliable shooters, we missed too many open looks.
Fatts didn't have the options that Jeff previously did, as a matter of fact many times Jeff was his most reliable option.
I have to go along with Cox on making the decision he did, because he spent every day on the practice court with them.
There must of been something DH liked or a reason why he recruited Fatts extremely hard at the PG position.
More suited? LOL. Jeff is a PG. Now in the NBA. Fatts is playing at Maryland. Nuff said.
I said Jeff was one of the most efficient point guards in the country. Plenty of point guards play with talented players and aren't top 3 in the country at assist to turnover ratio as a sophomore.
I'll have to go back and find some of my posts, but I've often gone into great detail on what I would have done with Fatts at the 2. Long story short, I thought Fatts was a better scorer than Jeff. I personally think you want your shooting guard to be the scoring guard and your point guard to run the offense. I felt Fatts shot the ball better, catching the ball with his feet planted than off the dribble. I also thought he could excel as a player that is constantly moving without the ball. It's hard to stick with a player as quick as Fatts. Designed plays with Fatts catching the ball from cutting or off a pick where you get a slower defender on him would have been scary with his ability to slash, finish, draw fouls, and pass it off.
I still would want the ball in Fatts hands a lot, but when you have a point guard like Jeff, he knows when it's time to run the offense and slow things down when Fatts is playing out of control. That's the difference between a good point guard and those rare special point guards like Jeff. Far too many times, Fatts forced it while Jeff stood there. Jeff never looked like the same player once Cox made that wrong decision. Luckily summer league teams saw what type of player Jeff is, and he now has a shot at playing in the NBA or having a great career overseas as a point guard.
Fatts would be the starting point guard on most teams. However, he shouldn't be with a team that has Jeff Dowtin.
I guess we agree to disagree.
I do think Jeff is more suited as a PG rather than SG, especially at the next level.
But the problem is how do you use Fatts? I feel he would of been lost if taken off the ball.
It would of been a problem for him at SG/CG and a mismatch on both ends of the floor.
He was far from a consistent shooter and was best when beating his defender with the ball and trying to create.
Our biggest problem was we didn't have any reliable shooters, we missed too many open looks.
Fatts didn't have the options that Jeff previously did, as a matter of fact many times Jeff was his most reliable option.
I have to go along with Cox on making the decision he did, because he spent every day on the practice court with them.
There must of been something DH liked or a reason why he recruited Fatts extremely hard at the PG position.
More suited? LOL. Jeff is a PG. Now in the NBA. Fatts is playing at Maryland. Nuff said.
Really, so what.
No one is debating Jeff's ability at the point.
I guess we agree to disagree.
I do think Jeff is more suited as a PG rather than SG, especially at the next level.
But the problem is how do you use Fatts? I feel he would of been lost if taken off the ball.
It would of been a problem for him at SG/CG and a mismatch on both ends of the floor.
He was far from a consistent shooter and was best when beating his defender with the ball and trying to create.
Our biggest problem was we didn't have any reliable shooters, we missed too many open looks.
Fatts didn't have the options that Jeff previously did, as a matter of fact many times Jeff was his most reliable option.
I have to go along with Cox on making the decision he did, because he spent every day on the practice court with them.
There must of been something DH liked or a reason why he recruited Fatts extremely hard at the PG position.
More suited? LOL. Jeff is a PG. Now in the NBA. Fatts is playing at Maryland. Nuff said.
Really, so what.
No one is debating Jeff's ability at the point.
So let's bring it to your position you agree with Cox taking Dowtin off PG. Let's keep it there. You are in such a minority. Not many agree with you. In fact, I bet Jeff doesn't agree either.
More suited? LOL. Jeff is a PG. Now in the NBA. Fatts is playing at Maryland. Nuff said.
Really, so what.
No one is debating Jeff's ability at the point.
So let's bring it to your position you agree with Cox taking Dowtin off PG. Let's keep it there. You are in such a minority. Not many agree with you. In fact, I bet Jeff doesn't agree either.
I understand the decision Cox made and trust his judgement on this.
He spent everyday in the gym with them and like I said he had a better understanding of the dynamics of this situation than we did.
I also think Jeff was more capable of playing the CG/SG than Fatts and both at times would share the ball.
Really, so what.
No one is debating Jeff's ability at the point.
So let's bring it to your position you agree with Cox taking Dowtin off PG. Let's keep it there. You are in such a minority. Not many agree with you. In fact, I bet Jeff doesn't agree either.
I understand the decision Cox made and trust his judgement on this.
He spent everyday in the gym with them and like I said he had a better understanding of the dynamics of this situation than we did.
I also think Jeff was more capable of playing the CG/SG than Fatts and both at times would share the ball.
It failed miserably. Worst decision ever. But Hey, let's see what this year brings.
So let's bring it to your position you agree with Cox taking Dowtin off PG. Let's keep it there. You are in such a minority. Not many agree with you. In fact, I bet Jeff doesn't agree either.
I understand the decision Cox made and trust his judgement on this.
He spent everyday in the gym with them and like I said he had a better understanding of the dynamics of this situation than we did.
I also think Jeff was more capable of playing the CG/SG than Fatts and both at times would share the ball.
It failed miserably. Worst decision ever. But Hey, let's see what this year brings.
"
Worst decision ever, really don't be so dramatic.
Failed miserably, I doubt it affected our season results, we had other glaring issues.
There are many Div.1 teams (including P6) that would of loved having Fatts as their PG.
Both Dowtin and Fatts graduated and received their degrees here, give Cox some credit.
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:56 pm
by theblueram
Nah. He hasn't done a damn thing as Head Coach.
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:08 pm
by theblueram
You know the other thing that irritates me other than your incessant love of Cox? It's would've or would have. Would of is just bugging me.
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:40 pm
by Jersey77
theblueram wrote: ↑2 years ago
You know the other thing that irritates me other than your incessant love of Cox? It's would've or would have. Would of is just bugging me.
First of all, I never claimed to love Cox.
I said in many posts I reserve judgement at this time, I am critical of certain things and I keep a very open mind.
I just feel he hasn't been given a fair chance yet to prove himself as a head coach.
You know what irritates me about you is how you hijack every thread about your dislike for Cox as HC, WE GET IT ALREADY.
RhodyKyle wrote: ↑2 years ago
Was Cat a PG in high school? Draft Express says he was a SG at Cardinal Dougherty High.
Edit: As for 5'10" off guards, Celtics sure did well with Eddie House as a SG. Eddie is like 5'6" with platform shoes on.
Cat may have been a forward in Junior High School but he was a PG at URI under Al Skinner after prepping after HS. Cat had a very good NBA career while Tyson had a cup=of=coffee in the NBA. What Cat played in HS is irrelevant.
My point was that Cox can hardly be called a dunce, as you said, for moving Jeff to SG with Fatts needing to start.
You are right, There are many other good reasons!!!!
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:22 am
by McRam
There are five players on the court at a time; I don't think anyone would argue that Fatts and JD would be on the court together most of the game.
I really see no relevancy in calling one the PG and the other the SG. Effective coaches utilize their talents as effectively as possible. Of course, some times Fatts could be the PG and on other plays JD would be the so called PG. There is nothing in the rules that says the coach has to designate a 1 or a 2.
Having two PG on the floor at the same time, is usually a blessing, not a curse.
The bottom line is that Cox never found the best way to use them together- In the same sense, I am concerned that the Mitchell twins will not be as effective as they should be--- under the current regime.
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:23 am
by McRam
There are five players on the court at a time; I don't think anyone would argue that Fatts and JD would be on the court together most of the game.
I really see no relevancy in calling one the PG and the other the SG. Effective coaches utilize their talents as effectively as possible. Of course, some times Fatts could be the PG and on other plays JD would be the so called PG. There is nothing in the rules that says the coach has to designate a 1 or a 2.
Having two PG on the floor at the same time, is usually a blessing, not a curse.
The bottom line is that Cox never found the best way to use them together- In the same sense, I am concerned that the Mitchell twins will not be as effective as they should be--- under the current regime.
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:32 pm
by steveystuds06
McRam wrote: ↑2 years ago
There are five players on the court at a time; I don't think anyone would argue that Fatts and JD would be on the court together most of the game.
I really see no relevancy in calling one the PG and the other the SG. Effective coaches utilize their talents as effectively as possible. Of course, some times Fatts could be the PG and on other plays JD would be the so called PG. There is nothing in the rules that says the coach has to designate a 1 or a 2.
Having two PG on the floor at the same time, is usually a blessing, not a curse.
The bottom line is that Cox never found the best way to use them together- In the same sense, I am concerned that the Mitchell twins will not be as effective as they should be--- under the current regime.
I will agree with that if you have two guards like a Shep and EA. They will both handle the PG duties because neither are pure point guards...With Jeff and Fatts, I disagree. When you have a point guard that's the smartest player on the floor and runs the team better than anyone, you want him as your starting 1. The ball was in Fatts hands WAY too much under Cox. Hurley quickly realized that when we need someone to make the right play give the ball to Jeff. Cox decided to give the ball to Fatts. I think you are all forgetting how great Jeff was as the floor general and coach for our team.
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:19 pm
by SandorClegane
It’s over. Stop arguing about it. This page was supposed to give props to Jeff. Stop polluting it.
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:49 pm
by steveystuds06
I love that we barely have any discussions on here, but people tell us to stop...I'm not arguing with anyone and I will continue to speak with any fan that wants to have a friendly discussion about this program. Thats' what this place is for.. I've been following and supporting Jeff for years and will continue to.
theblueram wrote: ↑2 years ago
You know the other thing that irritates me other than your incessant love of Cox? It's would've or would have. Would of is just bugging me.
First of all, I never claimed to love Cox.
I said in many posts I reserve judgement at this time, I am critical of certain things and I keep a very open mind.
I just feel he hasn't been given a fair chance yet to prove himself as a head coach.
You know what irritates me about you is how you hijack every thread about your dislike for Cox as HC, WE GET IT ALREADY.
Fair enough about would've, my bad.
One, I don't dislike Cox. Thought he was a great hire. But he has fallen well short. I really don't think I hijack threads. Just saying my piece on a fan board. Sometimes I like to yell and scream. Thus, a fan board.
McRam wrote: ↑2 years ago
There are five players on the court at a time; I don't think anyone would argue that Fatts and JD would be on the court together most of the game.
I really see no relevancy in calling one the PG and the other the SG. Effective coaches utilize their talents as effectively as possible. Of course, some times Fatts could be the PG and on other plays JD would be the so called PG. There is nothing in the rules that says the coach has to designate a 1 or a 2.
Having two PG on the floor at the same time, is usually a blessing, not a curse.
The bottom line is that Cox never found the best way to use them together- In the same sense, I am concerned that the Mitchell twins will not be as effective as they should be--- under the current regime.
I will agree with that if you have two guards like a Shep and EA. They will both handle the PG duties because neither are pure point guards...With Jeff and Fatts, I disagree. When you have a point guard that's the smartest player on the floor and runs the team better than anyone, you want him as your starting 1. The ball was in Fatts hands WAY too much under Cox. Hurley quickly realized that when we need someone to make the right play give the ball to Jeff. Cox decided to give the ball to Fatts. I think you are all forgetting how great Jeff was as the floor general and coach for our team.
I agree with everything you say. Coaching at this level really matters !
theblueram wrote: ↑2 years ago
You know the other thing that irritates me other than your incessant love of Cox? It's would've or would have. Would of is just bugging me.
First of all, I never claimed to love Cox.
I said in many posts I reserve judgement at this time, I am critical of certain things and I keep a very open mind.
I just feel he hasn't been given a fair chance yet to prove himself as a head coach.
You know what irritates me about you is how you hijack every thread about your dislike for Cox as HC, WE GET IT ALREADY.
Fair enough about would've, my bad.
One, I don't dislike Cox. Thought he was a great hire. But he has fallen well short. I really don't think I hijack threads. Just saying my piece on a fan board. Sometimes I like to yell and scream. Thus, a fan board.
You didn’t do anything… We need more people like you and Jersey who are open to having a debate
theblueram wrote: ↑2 years ago
You know the other thing that irritates me other than your incessant love of Cox? It's would've or would have. Would of is just bugging me.
First of all, I never claimed to love Cox.
I said in many posts I reserve judgement at this time, I am critical of certain things and I keep a very open mind.
I just feel he hasn't been given a fair chance yet to prove himself as a head coach.
You know what irritates me about you is how you hijack every thread about your dislike for Cox as HC, WE GET IT ALREADY.
Fair enough about would've, my bad.
One, I don't dislike Cox. Thought he was a great hire. But he has fallen well short. I really don't think I hijack threads. Just saying my piece on a fan board. Sometimes I like to yell and scream. Thus, a fan board.
I just got back from the the Giant's game in the Meadowlands, so I guess I am use to disappointments.
I get it with you venting, like Blue Man who is an emotional roller coaster following our Rams.
Maybe as I got older, I developed more patience as a fan.
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:39 pm
by PeteRI
I'll be rooting for Double Uno in the NBA!
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:16 pm
by Rhody Blue
Jeff just stuck a fall away jumper for the win against the Celtics !!!
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:21 pm
by steveystuds06
DOWTIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:36 pm
by Rhodymob05
Keep this man in Orlando
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:05 am
by reef
Way to go Jefe he definitely gonna make it or get a 2 way contract at worst !!
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:29 am
by URI_IEP
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:39 am
by Rhode_Island_Red
How many times did we see him make that move?????
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:09 am
by Jersey77
He had his best game of the exhibition against the Celtics, playing 15 minutes, 10 pts (5-10)/ 2 rebs./ 2 assists.
"He signed an Exhibit 10 contract with the Magic and will likely re-join Lakeland in the coming days but will do so with plenty of fans inside and outside of the organization after Wednesday night."
Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years ago
He had his best game of the exhibition against the Celtics, playing 15 minutes, 10 pts (5-10)/ 2 rebs./ 2 assists.
"He signed an Exhibit 10 contract with the Magic and will likely re-join Lakeland in the coming days but will do so with plenty of fans inside and outside of the organization after Wednesday night."
Jersey77 wrote: ↑2 years ago
He had his best game of the exhibition against the Celtics, playing 15 minutes, 10 pts (5-10)/ 2 rebs./ 2 assists.
"He signed an Exhibit 10 contract with the Magic and will likely re-join Lakeland in the coming days but will do so with plenty of fans inside and outside of the organization after Wednesday night."
And in typical Dowtin fashion great leadership with Zero Turnovers while playing PG
Yes, Jeff is a very special young man and talent both on and off the court. I will always root for him.
He also has a wonderful and supportive family behind him.
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:11 am
by ATPTourFan
Completely agree. He was my favorite player those last years following Hass' graduation.
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:42 am
by steveystuds06
Re: Jeff Dowtin NBA Player
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:20 pm
by Blue Man
Imagine having that guy on your team and saying - nah, let the 28% shooter have the ball and take the shot.