2021 NCAA Tournament
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:59 pm
UConn in as a 7 seed.
If the Bonnies can beat LSU, Michigan is the weakest number one seed. If Livers can’t play, they could be vulnerable.
Oats vs Pitino first round. Two coaches that I wish we hired three years ago and even more so now. It really sucks that we are watching the success these programs have had, and our team is sitting home.
The committee doesn't care about coaching matchups. If you think they do, then you don't know how they do their job. There are so many Division One coaches intertwined with another it's almost guaranteed every year that there are conspiracy theories as to "this coach is playing that coach."
Hurley had to have been told about the BE move in the works - once that happened I was “more ok” with losing him to UConn. American is not a better conference. UConn in the BE is regrettably a much better job than Rhody. UConn in the American? Not so much better.rambone 78 wrote: ↑3 years ago Hurley knew what he was doing when he left here.
He knew it would be a constant struggle to get a bid in the A10. Especially with URI dragging their feet on program enhancements.
I also think he knew that UConn was going to join the BE soon after he moved to the AAC.
The AAC is very similar to the A10, they are going to struggle to get bids.
We were never going to get Oats. From Buffalo to URI is barely an upgrade.
He had higher ambitions.
But boy, I would have loved to have got him!
Hurley could have kept going to the tournament here year after year. That just wasn’t his ambition. One of our greatest teams ever here was a 7 seed. He has this half-built UConn team as a 7 already, and they’re on the rise. He definitely knew what he was doing but i think it’s wrong to suggest he couldn’t have maintained the level he had established here. In my opinion, he would have. It’s just that what he can do at UConn ultimately will be a degree of magnitude bigger.rambone 78 wrote: ↑3 years ago Hurley knew what he was doing when he left here.
He knew it would be a constant struggle to get a bid in the A10. Especially with URI dragging their feet on program enhancements.
I also think he knew that UConn was going to join the BE soon after he moved to the AAC.
The AAC is very similar to the A10, they are going to struggle to get bids.
TruePoint wrote: ↑3 years agoHurley could have kept going to the tournament here year after year. That just wasn’t his ambition. One of our greatest teams ever here was a 7 seed. He has this half-built UConn team as a 7 already, and they’re on the rise. He definitely knew what he was doing but i think it’s wrong to suggest he couldn’t have maintained the level he had established here. In my opinion, he would have. It’s just that what he can do at UConn ultimately will be a degree of magnitude bigger.rambone 78 wrote: ↑3 years ago Hurley knew what he was doing when he left here.
He knew it would be a constant struggle to get a bid in the A10. Especially with URI dragging their feet on program enhancements.
I also think he knew that UConn was going to join the BE soon after he moved to the AAC.
The AAC is very similar to the A10, they are going to struggle to get bids.
Thought the exact same thing during the section show. One program moving forward and another in reverse.
Yup, and it will continue next season.
This is absolutely, unequivocally, the 100% wrong take.Rhodysk wrote: ↑3 years ago I didn’t see Pee Cee make it. I thought Cooley said in November he had a tournament team and needed to schedule accordingly.
Sorry to re-hash it but next year URI has got to put there foot down and say if they wanna play then it’s in Kingston. No more kissing there Ass. URI already has a pretty good out of conference schedule ( if teams don’t back out ) . Cox has shown he will play anyone, but with Pee Cee, URI should play hardball.
It’s Pee Cee that will continue to get the bad PR.
Come on Thor put your dam foot down!
haha I dont know what is going on in this world, but more and more I find myself agreeing with you Rhody15Rhody15 wrote: ↑3 years agoThis is absolutely, unequivocally, the 100% wrong take.Rhodysk wrote: ↑3 years ago I didn’t see Pee Cee make it. I thought Cooley said in November he had a tournament team and needed to schedule accordingly.
Sorry to re-hash it but next year URI has got to put there foot down and say if they wanna play then it’s in Kingston. No more kissing there Ass. URI already has a pretty good out of conference schedule ( if teams don’t back out ) . Cox has shown he will play anyone, but with Pee Cee, URI should play hardball.
It’s Pee Cee that will continue to get the bad PR.
Come on Thor put your dam foot down!
It's a RIVALRY, we are going to have a weak OOC / MTE tournament because Cox will be looking for wins, and we are in no place to start making demands saying the game needs to be played in Kingston or nowhere.
They received bad PR this year, the game did not get played, and the last game was played at The Ryan Center.
Next year should (and will be) business as usual with a sold out Dunk.
I had this argument with an AAC school fan on twitter. Thought I was nuts until I presented the actual facts. His response was "the two leagues are much closer than I thought" - probably the one and only time I will ever convince anyone on the internet. I do wish that the A10 had invited Wichita St - A10 was clearly better before that, getting equal or better seeds. Now it's flopped.ace wrote: ↑3 years ago The American needs to get over itself and schedule a challenge or whatever they call it with the A10. The top of each conference is solid, but both struggle getting teams in the tournament. The American likes to think it’s better than it is, but they were VERY close to being a one bid conference.
Yup - people call the upsets in mid to low majors the bid stealers. I maintain that teams like Syracuse who play cupcakes and barely leave upstate NY in OOC, then struggle in the ACC, yet somehow manage to sneak their way in are the real bid stealers. They steal a bid from a much more deserving 2nd or 3rd team from a smaller conference.
It will have been YEARS since either was in the tournament.rambone 78 wrote: ↑3 years ago Weird, but nice, having an NCAA tourney with no Kentucky or Duke.
Either missing it is unusual, but both at the same time?
Bilas said last night that the last time neither Duke nor Kentucky were in the tournament was 1976, which coincidentally was Indiana’s undefeated season. You feeling the vibe, Gonzaga?RF1 wrote: ↑3 years agoIt will have been YEARS since either was in the tournament.rambone 78 wrote: ↑3 years ago Weird, but nice, having an NCAA tourney with no Kentucky or Duke.
Either missing it is unusual, but both at the same time?
They won't re-seed, the alternate slides into the seed of the vacating team. All of this is probably moot as the deadline is this evening. Past the deadline, teams out due to covid are considered a forfeit and their opponent advances.RhodyRam86 wrote: ↑3 years ago Does anyone now how the alternates (first four out) are going to work if a team in the dance has to vacate due to COVID? How will the committee manage this? If for instance the Zags had to bow out, certainly Louisville can't be made a 1 seed. But if you make them a 12 seed then you have to shuffle the rest of the tournament. Anyone with insight on this?
Not necessarily. The virus has an incubation period of up to 14 days.rambone 78 wrote: ↑3 years ago Plus once they're in the their bubbles and been tested again, there shouldn't be any more issues.
RhodyKyle wrote: ↑3 years agoThey won't re-seed, the alternate slides into the seed of the vacating team. All of this is probably moot as the deadline is this evening. Past the deadline, teams out due to covid are considered a forfeit and their opponent advances.RhodyRam86 wrote: ↑3 years ago Does anyone now how the alternates (first four out) are going to work if a team in the dance has to vacate due to COVID? How will the committee manage this? If for instance the Zags had to bow out, certainly Louisville can't be made a 1 seed. But if you make them a 12 seed then you have to shuffle the rest of the tournament. Anyone with insight on this?
I heard the same as RhodyKyle. I think the tournament chairman told this to the ESPN crew in his interview on Sunday night. If a multiple bid league team has to withdraw, the first standby team goes into their slot, and so forth. If a one bid league team has to withdraw, they go to the next team in that league. Theoretically, Bryant could still get in. This will all play out in the next three hours. Field is locked in at 6:00.RhodyRam86 wrote: ↑3 years agoRhodyKyle wrote: ↑3 years agoRhodyRam86 wrote: ↑3 years ago Does anyone now how the alternates (first four out) are going to work if a team in the dance has to vacate due to COVID? How will the committee manage this? If for instance the Zags had to bow out, certainly Louisville can't be made a 1 seed. But if you make them a 12 seed then you have to shuffle the rest of the tournament. Anyone with insight on this?
They won't re-seed, the alternate slides into the seed of the vacating team. All of this is probably moot as the deadline is this evening. Past the deadline, teams out due to covid are considered a forfeit and their opponent advances.
So if Gonzaga got COVID before the deadline and couldn't participate, Louisville would be come a 1 seed? That's hard to believe.
I've also heard it exactly as you've described Jim. And thought the same point about scouting so I guess this is the only way to do it, but almost makes me think you would rather be one of the first 4 out than to be a 12 seed or have to play in the first 4. You probably don't get to play at all, but you could get lucky, become a 2 seed and are only 1 difficult game from the Sweet 16. I know it's very unlikely, but would be interested in seeing something like this play out.JimSidd wrote: ↑3 years agoI heard the same as RhodyKyle. I think the tournament chairman told this to the ESPN crew in his interview on Sunday night. If a multiple bid league team has to withdraw, the first standby team goes into their slot, and so forth. If a one bid league team has to withdraw, they go to the next team in that league. Theoretically, Bryant could still get in. This will all play out in the next three hours. Field is locked in at 6:00.RhodyRam86 wrote: ↑3 years ago
So if Gonzaga got COVID before the deadline and couldn't participate, Louisville would be come a 1 seed? That's hard to believe.
You can’t reseed now. Teams have already started scouting opponents. Nothing has been fair in the last 12 months. In the grand scheme of things, it’s not that big a deal. At least we’re having a tournament this year.
Umm, I think you'd rather be in than out when the teams were announced on Selection Sunday. I don't think there were a lot of teams hoping to be "alternates."RhodyRam86 wrote: ↑3 years agoI've also heard it exactly as you've described Jim. And thought the same point about scouting so I guess this is the only way to do it, but almost makes me think you would rather be one of the first 4 out than to be a 12 seed or have to play in the first 4. You probably don't get to play at all, but you could get lucky, become a 2 seed and are only 1 difficult game from the Sweet 16. I know it's very unlikely, but would be interested in seeing something like this play out.JimSidd wrote: ↑3 years agoI heard the same as RhodyKyle. I think the tournament chairman told this to the ESPN crew in his interview on Sunday night. If a multiple bid league team has to withdraw, the first standby team goes into their slot, and so forth. If a one bid league team has to withdraw, they go to the next team in that league. Theoretically, Bryant could still get in. This will all play out in the next three hours. Field is locked in at 6:00.RhodyRam86 wrote: ↑3 years ago
So if Gonzaga got COVID before the deadline and couldn't participate, Louisville would be come a 1 seed? That's hard to believe.
You can’t reseed now. Teams have already started scouting opponents. Nothing has been fair in the last 12 months. In the grand scheme of things, it’s not that big a deal. At least we’re having a tournament this year.
Anyway...just one more reason i'm glad my season tix were deferred.
I was being somewhat facetious. Of course you would rather be in than out. Just trying to point out what could have been an inequity with an alternate sliding into a top seed.PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑3 years agoUmm, I think you'd rather be in than out when the teams were announced on Selection Sunday. I don't think there were a lot of teams hoping to be "alternates."RhodyRam86 wrote: ↑3 years agoI've also heard it exactly as you've described Jim. And thought the same point about scouting so I guess this is the only way to do it, but almost makes me think you would rather be one of the first 4 out than to be a 12 seed or have to play in the first 4. You probably don't get to play at all, but you could get lucky, become a 2 seed and are only 1 difficult game from the Sweet 16. I know it's very unlikely, but would be interested in seeing something like this play out.JimSidd wrote: ↑3 years ago
I heard the same as RhodyKyle. I think the tournament chairman told this to the ESPN crew in his interview on Sunday night. If a multiple bid league team has to withdraw, the first standby team goes into their slot, and so forth. If a one bid league team has to withdraw, they go to the next team in that league. Theoretically, Bryant could still get in. This will all play out in the next three hours. Field is locked in at 6:00.
You can’t reseed now. Teams have already started scouting opponents. Nothing has been fair in the last 12 months. In the grand scheme of things, it’s not that big a deal. At least we’re having a tournament this year.
Anyway...just one more reason i'm glad my season tix were deferred.
I originally felt that way but I think that changed when the NCAA came out and said as long as team could play with 5 players they could remain in the field. And then doubled-down on that Saturday night when the NCAA said all the COVID impacted teams would be eligible to play in the tournament as long as they had the mandatory negative tests by the start of the actual tournament and not the bracket. They made it so unlikely for an alternate team to possibly be selected that it didn't make a difference.RhodyRam86 wrote: ↑3 years agoI was being somewhat facetious. Of course you would rather be in than out. Just trying to point out what could have been an inequity with an alternate sliding into a top seed.PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑3 years agoUmm, I think you'd rather be in than out when the teams were announced on Selection Sunday. I don't think there were a lot of teams hoping to be "alternates."RhodyRam86 wrote: ↑3 years ago
I've also heard it exactly as you've described Jim. And thought the same point about scouting so I guess this is the only way to do it, but almost makes me think you would rather be one of the first 4 out than to be a 12 seed or have to play in the first 4. You probably don't get to play at all, but you could get lucky, become a 2 seed and are only 1 difficult game from the Sweet 16. I know it's very unlikely, but would be interested in seeing something like this play out.
Anyway...just one more reason i'm glad my season tix were deferred.