Atlantic 10 Outlook 2020-2021 Season

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......quite a range, I think we will be closer to the contending with the big dogs for the top of A-10 range rather than a dumpster fire.......Go Rhody.....update, aren’t we considered a big dog in the A-10 just about every year now?

[rhodylaw]

If Fatts returns we are in the top 3, no question, no matter if the transfer rule passes. If Fatts does not return I am less certain.

[rambone 78]

Richmond and St. Louis are one-two without a doubt imo.

Dayton probably third.

After that, who knows?

We should be top half, how high will depend on what happens with the roster.

If everyone is eligible we should be in the mix for a double bye. That includes Fatts and JH staying.

If not, depth will be a big issue again.

[steviep123]

It'll be tough to have anyone other than SLU and Richmond as 1-2 in some order. 3-5 is Dayton, URI, Davidson in some order, then SBU and Duquesne. That's my top 7.

[reef]

That article didn’t even mention Toppin transferring out ??

[rhodylaw]

It'll be tough to have anyone other than SLU and Richmond as 1-2 in some order. 3-5 is Dayton, URI, Davidson in some order, then SBU and Duquesne. That's my top 7.

UMass - best player in the league not named Fatts

[steviep123]

It'll be tough to have anyone other than SLU and Richmond as 1-2 in some order. 3-5 is Dayton, URI, Davidson in some order, then SBU and Duquesne. That's my top 7.

UMass - best player in the league not named Fatts

I agree Mitchell is going to be great and Weeks will be back. I wouldn't be surprised if UMass turned into a top 4 or 5 team, but McCall and that coaching staff has shown little in his 3 years...year 4 will be a big one. I also wouldn't be surprised if they came in 11th.

The only real sure things in the A10 next season (if there is a season) is SLU and Richmond will be in the top 4 and get the double bye, and Fordham will be playing on opening night in Brooklyn.

[rambone 78]

I don't know how many years McCall has left on his contract, but if UMass continues to struggle, you can bet that Bergeron will be the HC as soon as they can do it.

Mitchell will likely turn pro after another season is played...count on that too.

[TrevlontRook3]

I don't know how many years McCall has left on his contract, but if UMass continues to struggle, you can bet that Bergeron will be the HC as soon as they can do it.

Mitchell will likely turn pro after another season is played...count on that too.

Only reason Mitchell didn’t transfer is his mother being engaged the coach. Cant imagine that he would have considered staying if his plan wasn’t to go pro after this season.

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Atlantic 10 - 6 Teams made the rankings in Blue
All 6 Teams are 24 and higher. No A10 Teams from 25 to 50.
2. Richmond
6. Saint Louis
8. Dayton
13. St Bonaventure
20. Duquesne
24. Massachusetts

West Coast Conference - 5 Teams
1. Gonzaga
11. BYU
37. Saint Mary's
48. San Francisco
50. Pepperdine

Mountain West - 4 Teams
5. San Diego State
27. Utah State
30. UNLV
47. Boise State

1. Gonzaga
2. Richmond
3. Loyola-Chicago
4. East Tennessee State
5. San Diego State
6. Saint Louis
7. Belmont
8. Dayton
9. Western Kentucky
10. Northern Iowa
11. BYU
12. UNC Greensboro
13. St Bonaventure
14. Austin Peay
15. Furman
16. Arkansas Little Rock
17. Yale
18. New Mexico State
19. Murray State
20. Duquesne
21. South Dakota State
22. Bowling Green
23. Harvard
24. Massachusetts
25. Siena
26. North Texas
27. Utah State
28. Vermont
29. Buffalo
30. UNLV
31. Louisiana Tech
32. Bradley
33. Stephen F Austin
34. Georgia State
35. Wright State
36. Alabama Birmingham
37. Saint Mary's
38. Winthrop
39. Marshall
40. Colorado State
41. Akron
42. NC Central
43. UC Irvine
44. Liberty
45. Nevada
46. Delaware
47. Boise State
48. San Francisco
49. Princeton
50. Pepperdine

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Atlantic 10 - 6 Teams made the rankings in Blue
All 6 Teams are 24 and higher. No A10 Teams from 25 to 50.
2. Richmond
6. Saint Louis
8. Dayton
13. St Bonaventure
20. Duquesne
24. Massachusetts

West Coast Conference - 5 Teams
1. Gonzaga
11. BYU
37. Saint Mary's
48. San Francisco
50. Pepperdine

Mountain West - 4 Teams
5. San Diego State
27. Utah State
30. UNLV
47. Boise State

1. Gonzaga
2. Richmond
3. Loyola-Chicago
4. East Tennessee State6. Saint Louis
7. Belmont
8. Dayton
9. Western Kentucky
10. Northern Iowa
11. BYU
12. UNC Greensboro
13. St Bonaventure
14. Austin Peay
15. Furman
16. Arkansas Little Rock
17. Yale
18. New Mexico State
19. Murray State
20. Duquesne
21. South Dakota State
22. Bowling Green
23. Harvard
24. Massachusetts
25. Siena
26. North Texas
27. Utah State
28. Vermont
29. Buffalo
30. UNLV
31. Louisiana Tech
32. Bradley
33. Stephen F Austin
34. Georgia State
35. Wright State
36. Alabama Birmingham
37. Saint Mary's
38. Winthrop
39. Marshall
40. Colorado State
41. Akron
42. NC Central
43. UC Irvine
44. Liberty
45. Nevada
46. Delaware
47. Boise State
48. San Francisco
49. Princeton
50. Pepperdine

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Is URI not on this list?

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Atlantic 10 - 6 Teams made the rankings in Blue
All 6 Teams are 24 and higher. No A10 Teams from 25 to 50.
2. Richmond
6. Saint Louis
8. Dayton
13. St Bonaventure
20. Duquesne
24. Massachusetts

West Coast Conference - 5 Teams
1. Gonzaga
11. BYU
37. Saint Mary's
48. San Francisco
50. Pepperdine

Mountain West - 4 Teams
5. San Diego State
27. Utah State
30. UNLV
47. Boise State

1. Gonzaga
2. Richmond
3. Loyola-Chicago
4. East Tennessee State6. Saint Louis
7. Belmont
8. Dayton
9. Western Kentucky
10. Northern Iowa
11. BYU
12. UNC Greensboro
13. St Bonaventure
14. Austin Peay
15. Furman
16. Arkansas Little Rock
17. Yale
18. New Mexico State
19. Murray State
20. Duquesne
21. South Dakota State
22. Bowling Green
23. Harvard
24. Massachusetts
25. Siena
26. North Texas
27. Utah State
28. Vermont
29. Buffalo
30. UNLV
31. Louisiana Tech
32. Bradley
33. Stephen F Austin
34. Georgia State
35. Wright State
36. Alabama Birmingham
37. Saint Mary's
38. Winthrop
39. Marshall
40. Colorado State
41. Akron
42. NC Central
43. UC Irvine
44. Liberty
45. Nevada
46. Delaware
47. Boise State
48. San Francisco
49. Princeton
50. Pepperdine

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Is URI not on this list?

My expectations aren’t great for next year, but behind Boise State who lost everyone and Delaware seems pretty drastic.

[CHICO 78]

They must be assuming the transfer rule won't be in effect until
21 season. In which case we are going to be poor at best.
Teams are going to abuse us inside unless we get JH some
help at the 4/ 5. All 3 forwards are going to really need to step up
and ... and Stay out of foul trouble or we will end up with a
6'4 guard playing the 4 at times. We really need a big
who is eligible for next year. Abou de-commiting and the three
musketeers leaving really screwed us for next year if the
rule doesn't go into effect.

[Rhodymob05]

Twins will be playing second semester no?

[rjsuperfly66]

Twins will be playing second semester no?

You need to be enrolled for one academic year at your new school to be eligible, so they wouldn't be eligible until 2021-2022 unless they received a waiver.

"Generally, you need to spend one academic year at your new school as a full-time student before you are eligible to compete. This time is called an academic year of residence.

For your academic year of residence to count, you must attend classes only at the school where you plan to compete and you must be a full-time student (generally at least 12 credit hours). You cannot meet this requirement by attending your new school part time or by not attending school at all. Each school determines its own full-time status, so check with the athletics compliance office at your new school to find out how many credit hours you need to take. For a semester or quarter to count toward your academic year of residence, you must enroll before the 12th day of class of that academic term."

http://www.ncaapublications.com/product ... E42019.pdf

[reef]

Yeah sounds like they not expecting transfer rule to pass sucks UMass is 24

[CHICO 78]

Twins will be playing second semester no?

UNLIKELY . would need a waiver which they have absolutely no grounds for,
unfortunately.

[Rhody72]

They must be assuming Fatts is playing in the NBA not to rank us at the top of the A10???

[Rhodymob05]

Aren’t the twins in a smilie situation as Walker?

[URI96]

Aren’t the twins in a smilie situation as Walker?

Walker enrolled here in the 2nd semester after leaving GT. The twins did not and I think that is the difference

[theblueram]

We have 2 starters returning *maybe. Fatts and Harris. In the third year of a head coach. DISASTER!!!!!

[rhodylaw]

We have 2 starters returning *maybe. Fatts and Harris. In the third year of a head coach. DISASTER!!!!!

It’s not a disaster- it is the coach change rebuild we didn’t get the first two years. Again, only guy who left who we knew could contribute a lot next year is Martin. He only left because he thinks the transfer rule will be immediate, which if it is (I don’t think it will be) we have significantly upgraded last years team.

[SandorClegane]

We have 2 starters returning *maybe. Fatts and Harris. In the third year of a head coach. DISASTER!!!!!

Two starters graduated...

[SGreenwell]

We have 2 starters returning *maybe. Fatts and Harris. In the third year of a head coach. DISASTER!!!!!

Two starters graduated...

Listen, you can't let that get in the way of emotions.

I kid, though. I think the variance of next year's team is incredibly high, just because there are so many unknowns. How many players will be eligible immediately, eligible second half, will the freshmen be able to play immediately, will we pick up a grad transfer, etc. As a result, my suspicion is that we land somewhere near .500, which is a boring and not-so-sexy guess, I realize. If we lose Fatts, I might downgrade that outlook further.

[ramster]

We have 2 starters returning *maybe. Fatts and Harris. In the third year of a head coach. DISASTER!!!!!

Two starters graduated...

Listen, you can't let that get in the way of emotions.

I kid, though. I think the variance of next year's team is incredibly high, just because there are so many unknowns. How many players will be eligible immediately, eligible second half, will the freshmen be able to play immediately, will we pick up a grad transfer, etc. As a result, my suspicion is that we land somewhere near .500, which is a boring and not-so-sexy guess, I realize. If we lose Fatts, I might downgrade that outlook further.

It’s going to be a very interesting Obadiah Season Record Prediction Contest in Early November for Season #3 of David Cox. Very wide range of opinions being expressed On next years team especially on the optimistic side.

[rhodylaw]

We have 2 starters returning *maybe. Fatts and Harris. In the third year of a head coach. DISASTER!!!!!

Two starters graduated...

Listen, you can't let that get in the way of emotions.

I kid, though. I think the variance of next year's team is incredibly high, just because there are so many unknowns. How many players will be eligible immediately, eligible second half, will the freshmen be able to play immediately, will we pick up a grad transfer, etc. As a result, my suspicion is that we land somewhere near .500, which is a boring and not-so-sexy guess, I realize. If we lose Fatts, I might downgrade that outlook further.

If Fatts is here we win 20+ games next season - not a super tough schedule, lots of A10 teams losing good players to transfer. HE IS THAT GOOD. He will likely be the A10 scoring champ and in the running for league MVP with Tre Mitchell. This last year he was still inconsistent for stretches of the season. He needs to work on that and become a more consistently awesome player but I expect as a senior the number of "bad" games from Fatts will be in the lower single digits.

Without Fatts, could go either way depending on transfer situation and readiness of the Freshmen. We lost two very consistent starters from last season which will be tough to replace but not impossible. I love Jeff and Cyril, two of my favorite players in the last 10 years because of their heart, passion and consistency but it is college basketball and good players graduate and other players step up. Martin's production from last year is replaceable.

[rambone 78]

If the transfers are all eligible, then I think we have a good shot at 20 wins, with that schedule.

If not, then we are shorthanded in the frontcourt, and teams will game plan to stop Fatts, and 20 wins are not likely whatsoever.

Still way too many uncertainties with the roster, to come anywhere near accurately predicting number of wins at this point.

Right now, I'm more concerned as to whether or not we even have a season.

Even if we do, Cox has a hell of a job getting this bunch of strangers to play cohesively, especially with most likely limited time to practice and develop.

[SGreenwell]

Two starters graduated...

Listen, you can't let that get in the way of emotions.

I kid, though. I think the variance of next year's team is incredibly high, just because there are so many unknowns. How many players will be eligible immediately, eligible second half, will the freshmen be able to play immediately, will we pick up a grad transfer, etc. As a result, my suspicion is that we land somewhere near .500, which is a boring and not-so-sexy guess, I realize. If we lose Fatts, I might downgrade that outlook further.

If Fatts is here we win 20+ games next season - not a super tough schedule, lots of A10 teams losing good players to transfer. HE IS THAT GOOD. He will likely be the A10 scoring champ and in the running for league MVP with Tre Mitchell. This last year he was still inconsistent for stretches of the season. He needs to work on that and become a more consistently awesome player but I expect as a senior the number of "bad" games from Fatts will be in the lower single digits.

Without Fatts, could go either way depending on transfer situation and readiness of the Freshmen. We lost two very consistent starters from last season which will be tough to replace but not impossible. I love Jeff and Cyril, two of my favorite players in the last 10 years because of their heart, passion and consistency but it is college basketball and good players graduate and other players step up. Martin's production from last year is replaceable.

Xavier Munford was a really splendid player too - We won 8 and 14 games, his two years here. Right now, I couldn't even tell you who the #2 offensive option on the team is - it's likely a freshman, or a player who hasn't had a competitive game in 18 months to two years or so (Sheppard), or Walker or Harris would have to take an always unprecedented step up in terms of offensive usage. I imagine that it'll be sorted out to an extent in practices and early season play, but we lost a lot of rotation minutes on a team that already didn't have incredible depth.

[CHICO 78]

20 win's if Fatts comes back without the Transfers ??? Really???
We lost Jeff, Cyril and Tyrese from starting 5. 60+ % of the scoring!
We only have 3 Front Court players and one is a red shirt with limited exp.
Even if Fatts comes back we don't sniff 20 wins if the transfers aren't
eligible. Teams will concentrate on Fatts and pound the crap out of us
in the paint. Get our bigs in foul trouble and abuse us inside.
Take off the keaney blue glasses and stop drinking the
blue Koolaid and take a hard look at REALITY!!!

[reef]

Yeah the only way I could see 20 wins is if Fatts and all our transfers are available from day 1

[RF1]

Anyone predicting 20 wins next season is drinking some mighty special Kool-Aid

[Rhody15]

Saying we'll get 20 wins with Fatts and no transfers really really makes me question the college basketball knowledge some posters possess.

Delusional.

A starting lineup of Fatts, Sheppard, Harris, Walker, and ?? equals 20 wins?

Come on now.

[RamStock]

Saying we'll get 20 wins with Fatts and no transfers really really makes me question the college basketball knowledge some posters possess.

Delusional.

A starting lineup of Fatts, Sheppard, Harris, Walker, and ?? equals 20 wins?

Come on now.

No way on 20 wins. The one thing that will help is a much easier schedule than last year, but agree not close to a tourney team with that lineup.

[theblueram]

Yeah that lineup will struggle to get 10 wins. Even with the abysmal schedule.

[luke]

At this point we don't know who will be on the floor for URI in 20-21 since we don't know who ll be on the team and who will be eligible to play yet .
Why speculate about how many wins they will have until we know who will be playing ? If you want to speculate you could speculate that URI might have the most talented team in years on the floor depending on who ends up on the team just as well as speculating the team will win only 10 games. I
guarantee they won't have just seven players on scholarship for 20-21.

[theblueram]

At this point we don't know who will be on the floor for URI in 20-21 since we don't know who ll be on the team and who will be eligible to play yet .
Why speculate about how many wins they will have until we know who will be playing ? If you want to speculate you could speculate that URI might have the most talented team in years on the floor depending on who ends up on the team just as well as speculating the team will win only 10 games. I
guarantee they won't have just seven players on scholarship for 20-21.

But the question is, will they have more than seven players on schollies that are eligible?

[CHICO 78]

But the question is, will they have more than seven players on schollies that are eligible?

Exactly!!! It’s like carrying dead cap money in the pros!!

[reef]

I think if Fatts and all transfers immediately eligible maybe we win about 18

[luke]

I guarantee they will have more than seven scholarship players who are eligible and not a bunch of dead weight . There are many possibilities still out there who may help this team right away .

[Rhody Sody]

I doubt 20 wins even though i expect Fatts to be lights out and i think Shepard will be very good second scoring option. Really need an immediate eligible wing scorer to committ soon and a solid immediate eligible big to have any shot at 20+ wins with the weak OOC schedule. Even if Walker and Harris make big strides, too thin up front. If the transfers are eligible, completely different story.

[ramster]

George Washington picking up the pace. Just picked up 2 SEC and 1 ACC Team on next seasons OOC Schedule

[phipsiGD'11]

Play anyone, anywhere.

[ramster]

Dayton continuing to do an effective job with scheduling

[ramster]

Interesting comment by Ken P

[rjsuperfly66]

KenPom's SOS (which Rothstein) is citing, is done in a very particular way. There is some weighting that takes place in a way that KenPom feels is appropriate for his metric. I.E - If a team plays teams 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 350, that team would now face an average opponent of 60+ despite playing 5 Top 5 teams, so KenPom does some weighting so that "If a team plays mostly tough opponents, then the SOS rating isn’t as sensitive to the quality of the bad teams it plays. Whether Texas played Central Connecticut instead of UTSA last season wouldn’t have changed its SOS much."

Traditionally, the SOS is taken as an average. We have to remember that KenPom, and all of the metrics he uses on his site, are done in a way to measure strength in a way that can allow his metrics to be predictive. He has said over and over that predictive measures are not appropriate for the tournament selection process.

Rothstein has clearly taken the side of the little guy, which isn't wrong but he's using questionable tactics to get there. Rothstein should have been more appropriately citing the NET, since the SOS in the NET is the figure the committee uses. He probably didn't because it didn't play to the narrative he was trying to portray.

[ramster]

Mr soft

[steviep123]

[Billyboy78]

Best team in the league next season?

[ramster]