Games of Interest - Post Season Play

[ramster]

Games of Interest:

NCAA:

• Temple (23-9) NET 56 vs Belmont (26-5) NET 47 in Dayton Play-n Game. Belmont favored by 2.5 points. 9:10pm TRUTV

NIT:

• 7 Seed Hofstra (27-7) NET 76 @ 2 Seed NC State (22-11) NET 33 - 7pm ESPN2 NC State favored by 9 points

• 5 Seed Lipscomb (25-7) NET 49 @ 4 Seed Davidson (24-9) NET 75 - 7pm ESPN3 Davidson favored by 2.5 points

• 5 Seed Dayton (21-11) NET 69 @ 4 Seed Colorado (21-12) NET 56 - Interesting that games are being played on Dayton's Home Court while they travel to Boulder for an 11pm EDT Game on ESPN2 Colorado favored by 4.5 points

• 5 Seed Arkansas (17-15) NET 65 @ 4 Seed Providence (18-15) NET 70 - 9pm ESPN2 Providence favored by 7 points, Arkansas best player just declared for NBA Draft and cannot now play in this game

[ATPTourFan]

Good thread ramster.

[rambone 78]

PC catches a big break with that kid not playing.

[mjg13x]

In the 16-16 play in, Farleigh Dickinson is getting Farleigh dicked by Prairie View A&M.

[rambone 78]

Indiana losing at half by 6 to the #8 seed.

They will probably win, but do they care?

Davidson up 5 at half.....they must like playing someone who doesn't play A10 in your face defense.

[rambone 78]

Davidson gets bounced out of the NIT...….

Lipscomb is pretty good. Pretty much scored at will.

[steviep123]

It’s that time of year when I have to find what channel truTV is (and if I still have it). I can say with 100% certainty that I have not watched truTV since last March.

[ramster]

Good thread ramster.

Just giving Obadiah a well deserved break

[steviep123]

Temple vs. Belmont is a good one.

[steviep123]

Belmont up 6 at halftime.

[rambone 78]

Belmont and Lipscomb are proving themselves, albeit in different tourneys.

PC taking a nap against Arkansas, down 11 at half. And the Razorbacks' best player not playing due to declaring for the NBA draft.

[ramster]

Daniel Gafford of Arkansas in 2019 NBA Mock Draft to go 20 in the 1st round. Was just announced yesterday that he would not be able to play vs PC.

[ramster]

Loses by 12 to Arkansas at the Dunk while favored by 7.
Frank Carpano, Bill Reynolds and Kevin Mac sitting side by side courtside but Ed Cooley and Team with not much to entertain them
People from the Providence Public Library have moved over to the Dunk because they heard how much quieter it was there to read
Cooley needs to return that Jacket tomorrow - bad luck
Box Score says Arkansas blocked 10 shots (7 by a guy off the bench) but it seemed like 25 blocked shots
AJ Reeves looked bad defensively, Announcers said a big objective this summer for the Coaching Staff is to work on Reeves' defense
Very low energy crowd

[Rhodymob05]

PC v Arkansas attendance=3,057 at the dunk. Yikes.

[RF1]

Cooley's postseason resume doesn't get any better. Another first game exit. Tonight's loss drops his Friars record this season to third best in the state behind Brown and URI.

[RF1]

PC v Arkansaw attendance=3,057 at the dunk. Yikes.

Kevin McNamara may want to consider getting new sources for his information:

[ramster]

Dayton loses a close game at Colorado 78-73
Well played game by both teams

[reef]

That Dayton game was entertaining tough draw for the Flyers

[rambone 78]

The question is:

Will the A10 win a postseason game?

Last 2 chances coming soon.

[mjg13x]

NCAAs tonight:

(16) NC Central vs. (16) North Dakota State, NDSU favored by 5 points, 6:40p truTV

(11) St. John's vs. (11) Arizona State, ASU favored by 2 points, 9:10p truTV

NIT tonight:

(6) Toledo @ (3) Xavier, X favored by 5 points, 7:00p ESPN3

(8) Norfolk State @ (1) Alabama, Bama favored by 16 points, 7:00p ESPNU

(6) Harvard @ (3) Georgetown, Hoyas favored by 5 points, 7:00p ESPN2

(6) Wichita State @ (3) Furman, Pick-'Em 7:00p ESPN3

(8) Sam Houston State @ (1) TCU, TCU favored by 14 points, 9:00p ESPNU

(5) Butler @ (4) Nebraska, Huskers favored by 5.5 points, 9:00p ESPN2

[NHRamFan]

NCAAs tonight:

(16) NC Central vs. (16) North Dakota State, NDSU favored by 5 points, 6:40p truTV

(11) St. John's vs. (11) Arizona State, ASU favored by 2 points, 9:10p truTV

NIT tonight:

(6) Toledo @ (3) Xavier, X favored by 5 points, 7:00p ESPN3

(8) Norfolk State @ (1) Alabama, Bama favored by 16 points, 7:00p ESPNU

(6) Harvard @ (3) Georgetown, Hoyas favored by 5 points, 7:00p ESPN2

(6) Wichita State @ (3) Furman, Pick-'Em 7:00p ESPN3

(8) Sam Houston State @ (1) TCU, TCU favored by 14 points, 9:00p ESPNU

(5) Nebraska @ (4) Nebraska, Huskers favored by 5.5 points, 9:00p ESPN2

I'm taking Nebraska and the points in that last game!

[mjg13x]

NCAAs tonight:

(16) NC Central vs. (16) North Dakota State, NDSU favored by 5 points, 6:40p truTV

(11) St. John's vs. (11) Arizona State, ASU favored by 2 points, 9:10p truTV

NIT tonight:

(6) Toledo @ (3) Xavier, X favored by 5 points, 7:00p ESPN3

(8) Norfolk State @ (1) Alabama, Bama favored by 16 points, 7:00p ESPNU

(6) Harvard @ (3) Georgetown, Hoyas favored by 5 points, 7:00p ESPN2

(6) Wichita State @ (3) Furman, Pick-'Em 7:00p ESPN3

(8) Sam Houston State @ (1) TCU, TCU favored by 14 points, 9:00p ESPNU

(5) Nebraska @ (4) Nebraska, Huskers favored by 5.5 points, 9:00p ESPN2

I'm taking Nebraska and the points in that last game!

Fixed!

[Puck Frovidence]

Al Skinner was at the PC game last night. Don't know if he was just there to see Cooley but it would be cool if he still felt connected enough to RI to retire here now that he's done at Kennesaw.

[SmartyBarrett]

Cooley's postseason resume doesn't get any better. Another first game exit.

A tradition unlike any other.

[Ramulous]

I was thinking that although I hate the NIT it would have been good for us as a young team

Then I saw what providence did last night and thought that it hurt them and their brand....poor crowd....poor effort on national tv....poor attitude by the players who didn't want to be there.....all losses in my opinion.....and they are a young team also...I don't think they took anything positive away from the game...

I vote we never go the NIT if we are invited.....

[ace]

I was thinking that although I hate the NIT it would have been good for us as a young team

Then I saw what providence did last night and thought that it hurt them and their brand....poor crowd....poor effort on national tv....poor attitude by the players who didn't want to be there.....all losses in my opinion.....and they are a young team also...I don't think they took anything positive away from the game...

I vote we never go the NIT if we are invited.....

I think the message here is not “don’t go to the NIT.”

The true message is “don’t be like Providence.”

[Ramulous]

Other teams in the NIT have done the same, Ace....it's like those football bowl games that don't result in the national championship tournament...including players holding themselves out of the games....

[R.Kelly150]

Like the name of this section of Keaney Blue says “NCAA or Bust”. In my opinion that means unless there is a significant financial benefit or a true young up in comingURI team filled with freshmen and sophomores and future promises than the NIT is not necessarily a key to the success of the our program.

[rambone 78]

No excuses for the poor attitudes....they accepted a bid....and they knew they weren't close to an NCAA bid for a while.

For a young team you would think they would want to get some good postseason experience.

[ace]

URI being too good for the NIT is quite the take.

[theblueram]

NIT is still a valuable tournament. Sure you have teams who under achieved and are on their way out, but many teams are young teams on the cusp of making the NCAAT. Hungry. Those are the teams you want to play.

[rambone 78]

URI will always accept an NIT bid.

I might get crapped on for having the opinion that URI should strive to make the NCAA tourney 2 out of every 4 years, with 1 NIT also.

I think this is a realistic goal for the program going forward.

[steviep123]

The only times URI had NIT runs that didn’t precede an NCAA was in the Baron error.

1987 NIT - 1988 Sweet 16
1993 NIT quarterfinal- 1993 NCAA
1996 NIT quarterfinal- 1997-99 NCAA including elite 8 in ‘98
2015 NIT - 2017-18 NCAA

you always except NIT especially with a young team to gain valuable experience.

[theblueram]

The only times URI had NIT runs that didn’t precede an NCAA was in the Baron error.

1987 NIT - 1988 Sweet 16
1993 NIT quarterfinal- 1993 NCAA
1996 NIT quarterfinal- 1997-99 NCAA including elite 8 in ‘98
2015 NIT - 2017-18 NCAA

you always except NIT especially with a young team to gain valuable experience.

This is not quite accurate. We went to the NIT in 41,42,45,46,79 and 81 without a followup NCAAT bid.

[Rhody74]

In the 40s, the NIT was the more prestigious tournament.

[theblueram]

In the 40s, the NIT was the more prestigious tournament.

Then why aren't we given credit for being in the finals against Kentucky? I mean, that would be a final 4, no?

[steviep123]

R74 beat me to it. The larger point is the NIT can be used to gain valuable experience.

[rambone 78]

We were in the final game against Kentucky way back then, and lost by a point.

But the NCAA only recognizes NCAA final fours, not NIT.

[theblueram]

So had we gone to the less prestigious tournament, and beaten Okie State, we would have a National Championship?

[RF1]

NIT is still a valuable tournament. Sure you have teams who under achieved and are on their way out, but many teams are young teams on the cusp of making the NCAAT. Hungry. Those are the teams you want to play.

The NIT is actually now much harder to get into for an at large than it was for the four decades before the NCAA took it over. Not only was the field larger for some time (40 teams vs today's32), it did not give automatic bids (which now can account for nearly 1/3 of teams) and was entirely at large invites. It is now much better run, more selective, and much more merit based. In the old days, it was run by a NYC based old boys club that favored local teams and made many selections based on name value and who had big venues that could sell tickets. There was no initial set bracket. Matchups were decided after each round. Often easy paths (all home games) to NYC were created to help get the desired teams in the final four.

[rambone 78]

The closest we've come to a national title since the 40's was the year we lost to NC in the NIT semis.

We should have won that game but went 2-6 from the FT line in the last 2 minutes. And Ulmer should have gotten a foul call in the last few seconds.

Then we likely would have beaten Dayton in the finals, since we owned them at the time.

[rambone 78]

They should get rid of the NIT and expand the Dance to 96 teams.

Seed the top 32 and the other 64 play the 1st round. They could figure it out.

Wacky? Maybe, but it's a thought.

[ramster]

I was thinking that although I hate the NIT it would have been good for us as a young team

Then I saw what providence did last night and thought that it hurt them and their brand....poor crowd....poor effort on national tv....poor attitude by the players who didn't want to be there.....all losses in my opinion.....and they are a young team also...I don't think they took anything positive away from the game...

I vote we never go the NIT if we are invited.....

I think the message here is not “don’t go to the NIT.”

The true message is “don’t be like Providence.”

Absolutely. I heard the announcers talking about PC's lack of effort last night.
Here is the situation with PC:

• 7 point favorites

• Arkansas just two days ago heard they would need to play without their Best Player who is estimated to be the 20th Pick in the 2019 NBA Draft

• PC was never going to the NCAA so it's not like they were UNC Greensboro and the last team out

• They have several promising Freshmen developing

• They are playing at home

• Arkansas had to fly up with a minimum of 2 segments each way

So next time turn it down - don't go. Do players, your coaches, your fans, your ticket sellers, your cheerleaders, your band, Frank Carpano, Bill Reynolds and Kevin Macnamara all a favor and don't waste everyone's time.
In fact, build this type of attitude into the NET for next year - call it team spirit or lack thereof

[rambone 78]

I guess PC does think they're above playing in the NIT.

Plenty of blame to go around.

[ramster]

I guess PC does think they're above playing in the NIT.

Plenty of blame to go around.

Based on their horrible shooting, horrible defense - especially from AJ Reeves, sleepy fans, turnovers and a Head Coach who looked much of the night like he didn't care then they look more like a CBA or CIT Team. An embarrassment for the school and their conference. Just say no next time.

Plenty of teams would have loved to have had the NIT Opportunity

Don't get me wrong, I watched the game from beginning to end and or course rooted for Arkansas, but in al honesty, I don't think it was that they thought they were above the NIT or that they did not really come to play, I thought Arkansas simply shot better, jumped higher, ran faster and played harder than PC - they just simply got outscored badly on their home court.

[Ramulous]

Ace....not just Rhody......every team is too good for the NIT.....it is an event whose time passed when the NCAA expanded from 32 to 48 to 64 to 68....

[steviep123]

In the 40s, the NIT was the more prestigious tournament.

Then why aren't we given credit for being in the finals against Kentucky? I mean, that would be a final 4, no?

The winner of the NCAA tournament has always been considered the national champion but in the 40s teams turned down the NCAA for the NIT as the NIT was more prestigious.

[RF1]

Harvard beats Georgetown on the road at the Hoyas' tiny on campus gym in the NIT.

[ace]

Alright, Bobby- time to win a tournament game (as a coach). Maybe Dan being there will bring him luck.

[rambone 78]

More upsets tonight....Georgetown goes down to Harvard, and Alabama #1 seed loses to Norfolk State.

This is why I like this time of year.