The 2019 Coaching Carousel

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 5 years ago

Yeah can see Martelli at a lower D1 school heck there are 353 D 1 schools now

Interesting on Stackhouse I had no idea he was a coach

SmartyBarrett · Unread post by **SmartyBarrett** » 5 years ago

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 5 years ago

Wow SEC trying to make some splashes with these hires

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 5 years ago

SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑5 years ago

Pit us against them in the Jamaica tournament and let us bury them.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 5 years ago

I hope Muss falls on his face there

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 5 years ago

I am sure the Nevada administration and the school's fans will have no issue with Musselman pursuing another job. His contract allows him to leave provided he pays the buyout. If he chooses to leave and take several staff members, it will be because it is a good business decision. How can someone begrudge that?

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

Buzz Williams to Texas A&M. Announcement Thursday.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

Former UMASS player Tony Barbee name floating around to replace Ron Hunter at Georgia State. Barbee was HC at UTEP and really struggled at Auburn as HC. Currently assistant with UMASS buddy Calipari at Kentucky.

SmartyBarrett · Unread post by **SmartyBarrett** » 5 years ago

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

Didn't take long after TCU's loss to Texas last night
TCU was lethargic all night but especially in the 1st half when they only scored 17 points.
More Coaching Dominos to fall now to fill the TCU slot

SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑5 years ago

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

Dixon? Not exactly the splash hire UCLA was looking for, I would think.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 5 years ago

I actually think thats a good hire. Maybe I'm wrong but I always thought he was a pretty good coach.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 5 years ago

adam914 wrote: ↑5 years ago I actually think thats a good hire. Maybe I'm wrong but I always thought he was a pretty good coach.

It may be a good hire but they ran Ben Howland out of LA bc they didn't like his defensive, plodding style even though he brought them to 3 Final Fours. Dixon is of that same ilk in terms of how he likes to play. Will be interesting. It's funny how much info has come out about the UCLA job, including their lack of charters and resistance to breaking the bank on coach salary...with the amount of money in and around that campus, and the alums and history they have, that is crazy to hear.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

Will Seton Hall be looking at former grads?....

Taylor Swift · Unread post by **Taylor Swift** » 5 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑5 years ago Will Seton Hall be looking at former grads?....

I'm sure not the one you're thinking of.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 5 years ago

Taylor Swift wrote: ↑5 years ago
Billyboy78 wrote: ↑5 years ago Will Seton Hall be looking at former grads?....
I'm sure not the one you're thinking of.

I'm pretty sure DH isn't leaving UConn for Seton Hall at this point. What would be interesting is if DH was still here, how worried would we be? Ace?

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

Well UCLA did offer Calipari 6 mil a year for 8 years.

That's pretty good money in my book.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

No, I was thinking of Bobby Wanzer. Then again, I'm not sure if he's alive...

EZBuckets · Unread post by **EZBuckets** » 5 years ago

Good god, I can't even keep track of all these coaching changes. This has got to be one of the most active off-seasons in memory.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 5 years ago

Not a big fan of Dixon to UCLA, decent coach but thought they should have gone more high profile

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

Who were you thinking of? I think Dixon was a good choice, in fact, I am a bit surprised he would leave TCU>

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 5 years ago

Surprised he would leave TCU for UCLA?

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 5 years ago

Dixon was even an alumni and he still left!

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 5 years ago

Dixon just coached a game last night. You can’t tell me the inroads hadn’t been established before last night.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

DC_Rams wrote: ↑5 years ago Dixon just coached a game last night. You can’t tell me the inroads hadn’t been established before last night.

Not based on what he said last night, but there are already reports that he and UCLA were talking for some time now about this.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

DC_Rams wrote: ↑5 years ago Dixon just coached a game last night. You can’t tell me the inroads hadn’t been established before last night.

Yeah, and TCU played like they knew their coach was likely gone.

Reminds me of us against Duke in the tourney. Yes we had no chance no matter what, but they played like they knew Dan was gone.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑5 years ago
DC_Rams wrote: ↑5 years ago Dixon just coached a game last night. You can’t tell me the inroads hadn’t been established before last night.
Yeah, and TCU played like they knew their coach was likely gone.

Reminds me of us against Duke in the tourney. Yes we had no chance no matter what, but they played like they knew Dan was gone.

All 4 teams really wanted to get to NYC, all the teams in the NIT want that trip to NYC and to play in Madison Square Garden. Once they got there maybe they let up. It did seem that they were not the same team that I watched in the earlier NIT games. Maybe word leaked out about UCLA.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑5 years ago
DC_Rams wrote: ↑5 years ago Dixon just coached a game last night. You can’t tell me the inroads hadn’t been established before last night.
Yeah, and TCU played like they knew their coach was likely gone.

Reminds me of us against Duke in the tourney. Yes we had no chance no matter what, but they played like they knew Dan was gone.

All 4 teams really wanted to get to NYC, all the teams in the NIT want that trip to NYC and to play in Madison Square Garden. Once they got there maybe they let up. It did seem that they were not the same team that I watched in the earlier NIT games. Maybe word leaked out about UCLA.

Bill Koch · Unread post by **Bill Koch** » 5 years ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑5 years ago Well UCLA did offer Calipari 6 mil a year for 8 years.

That's pretty good money in my book.

John Calipari's base salary at Kentucky -- prior to this new lifetime deal -- was $7.95 million. He earned $9.25 million in 2018-19. UCLA essentially offered him a pay cut, and Calipari leveraged them anyway into a better deal to stay in Lexington. It was a failure on every level.

Yes, coaching searches are driven by contract value. But they're also driven by opportunity. You evaluate a job based on how that program should perform at its maximum and how much more room it has to grow from a facilities/financial/fan base perspective.

So in that context, Buzz Williams leaving Virginia Tech makes perfect sense. In a given year, how many ACC schools are they behind? Duke, North Carolina, Virginia, Louisville, Syracuse, Florida State at minimum -- maybe Notre Dame, North Carolina State and Miami when those jobs are being done correctly.

In the SEC, aside from Kentucky and maybe Florida, every program has had recent ups and downs and can't really be considered a true national contender. Given what they spend -- $485 million on their football stadium renovations and $75 million on Jimbo Fisher, for example -- the Aggies have proven they will back a winner. Their last few hires include Billiy Gillispie, Mark Turgeon, Billy Kennedy -- they came from UTEP, Wichita State and Murray State, respectively. Williams has the far better pedigree and potential to win bigger.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 5 years ago

Buzz is also from Texas and had previously worked at A&M so it can be easily explained just on that basis alone.

RhodyKyle · Unread post by **RhodyKyle** » 5 years ago

Bill Koch wrote: ↑5 years ago
rambone 78 wrote: ↑5 years ago Well UCLA did offer Calipari 6 mil a year for 8 years.

That's pretty good money in my book.
John Calipari's base salary at Kentucky -- prior to this new lifetime deal -- was $7.95 million. He earned $9.25 million in 2018-19. UCLA essentially offered him a pay cut, and Calipari leveraged them anyway into a better deal to stay in Lexington. It was a failure on every level.

Yes, coaching searches are driven by contract value. But they're also driven by opportunity. You evaluate a job based on how that program should perform at its maximum and how much more room it has to grow from a facilities/financial/fan base perspective.

So in that context, Buzz Williams leaving Virginia Tech makes perfect sense. In a given year, how many ACC schools are they behind? Duke, North Carolina, Virginia, Louisville, Syracuse, Florida State at minimum -- maybe Notre Dame, North Carolina State and Miami when those jobs are being done correctly.

In the SEC, aside from Kentucky and maybe Florida, every program has had recent ups and downs and can't really be considered a true national contender. Given what they spend -- $485 million on their football stadium renovations and $75 million on Jimbo Fisher, for example -- the Aggies have proven they will back a winner. Their last few hires include Billiy Gillispie, Mark Turgeon, Billy Kennedy -- they came from UTEP, Wichita State and Murray State, respectively. Williams has the far better pedigree and potential to win bigger.

In addition to all of this, Gary Parrish told a story on one of his podcast episodes about a month ago when the rumors of Buzz to A&M began to surface. He said he interviewed Buzz when he first got to VT after leaving Marquette and Buzz told him he doesn't like to set up roots any one place because then he sets himself up for eventually hitting a dry spell in terms of success and meeting fan expectations. Buzz said he usually leaves after about 4-6 years so that he always has that "new coach" period of time to adjust and settle before expectations mount.

Plus he is a Texas native (and an A&M alum, I believe).

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 5 years ago

Perfect. Cox brings us to a few NCAAs and a sweet 16 or 2, in 4-6 years he leaves for a P5 then we hire Buzz. Just as planned

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 5 years ago

The less kind interpretation of Buzz William’s career is that he can be a difficult person to get along with, and he wears out his welcome. I imagine it’s a little of each.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 5 years ago

The SEC is definitely on the rise as a hoop conference and definitely in the top 4 with ACC Big 12 and Big 10

Now add in great hires in Oats and Buzz too

SmartyBarrett · Unread post by **SmartyBarrett** » 5 years ago

The optics are going to be pretty terrible if UCLA can't close this.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑5 years ago

The optics are going to be pretty terrible if UCLA can't close this.

Why would UCLA go public that they are going after Dixon if they couldn’t afford his buyout?
It seems like they are trying to screw TCU. Using the approach “hey TCU do you really want to force a coach to stay who doesn’t want to be there?”

UCLA is saying to Dixon, we want you but not enough to pay your buyout.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 5 years ago

Looks like it's true that UCLA isn't willing to spend top dollar on basketball.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

Nice to see someone stay. $18 million for 6 years.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago Nice to see someone stay. $18 million for 6 years.

I wonder if we countered uconn with that offer, would DH have stayed?

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 5 years ago

Houston basketball also has this going for them-

https://uhcougars.com/sports/2018/6/12/ ... -html.aspx

Ramulous · Unread post by **Ramulous** » 5 years ago

They also have Bowl football

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 5 years ago

Good for them, I guess?

URI is still behind too many A10 teams with regards to facilities. Coaches want every competitive advantage they can get, even when that advantage is really just being equal to the competition. The Ryan Center is great. They need to finish the job. All money raised, finalized plans, a firm start date on construction.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

ace wrote: ↑5 years ago Good for them, I guess?

URI is still behind too many A10 teams with regards to facilities. Coaches want every competitive advantage they can get, even when that advantage is really just being equal to the competition. The Ryan Center is great. They need to finish the job. All money raised, finalized plans, a firm start date on construction.

URI treats facility improvements like they're a national secret.

Very little gets out until you actually see construction begin.

They keep saying the practice facility will be built. When?

Of course this brings me back to when Dooley told me 3 years ago that we were getting turf and lights soon.

Soon I guess in their parlance means 3 years or so.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 5 years ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑5 years ago
ace wrote: ↑5 years ago Good for them, I guess?

URI is still behind too many A10 teams with regards to facilities. Coaches want every competitive advantage they can get, even when that advantage is really just being equal to the competition. The Ryan Center is great. They need to finish the job. All money raised, finalized plans, a firm start date on construction.
URI treats facility improvements like they're a national secret.

Very little gets out until you actually see construction begin.

They keep saying the practice facility will be built. When?

Of course this brings me back to when Dooley told me 3 years ago that we were getting turf and lights soon.

Soon I guess in their parlance means 3 years or so.

I just looked at the VCU video of their practice facility. I'm not sure a redo of Tootell will inspire much like that facility. Hope I'm wrong.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

The redo will only be visible from inside, is my guess.

What did their PF cost? We're getting the Dollar Store version.

Any improvements will help at least.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

theblueram wrote: ↑5 years ago
Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago Nice to see someone stay. $18 million for 6 years.

I wonder if we countered uconn with that offer, would DH have stayed?

Big win for Houston and a strong statement made for the AAC.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

That is a statement win for the AAC.

That conference has generally been perceived as a steppingstone for coaches just like the A10.

That could now be changing, at least at the top end of the league.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑5 years ago The redo will only be visible from inside, is my guess.

What did their PF cost? We're getting the Dollar Store version.

Any improvements will help at least.

URI is going to spend $5 million on the practice area. That will create a nice space with the important features.
Renovation of an existing space saves significant $.