2018-19 A10 All Conference Teams

[ramster]

A10 all conference team should be announced on Tuesday
Will be interesting to see who makes 1st team this year.
Below preseason predictions from the A10 Head Coaches

http://www.atlantic10.com/ViewArticle.d ... =211776444

PRESEASON ALL-CONFERENCE FIRST TEAM
Kellan Grady, Davidson
Josh Cunningham, Dayton
Otis Livingston II, George Mason
Luwane Pipkins, Massachusetts
Grant Golden, Richmond

PRESEASON ALL-CONFERENCE SECOND TEAM
Eric Williams, Jr., Duquesne
Pookie Powell, La Salle
Jeff Dowtin, Rhode Island
Courtney Stockard, St. Bonaventure
Javon Bess, Saint Louis
Jordan Goodwin, Saint Louis

PRESEASON ALL-CONFERENCE THIRD TEAM
Jon Axel Gudmundsson, Davidson
Lamarr Kimble, Saint Joseph's
Charlie Brown, Jr., Saint Joseph's
Hasahn French, Saint Louis
De'Riante Jenkins, VCU

PRESEASON ALL-DEFENSIVE TEAM
Jon Axel Gudmundsson, Davidson
Terry Nolan, Jr., George Washington
Cyril Langevine, Rhode Island
Jacob Gilyard, Richmond
Javon Bess, Saint Louis

Preseason Poll
Saint Louis (15) - 348
Saint Joseph’s (4) - 324
Davidson (6) - 314
George Mason (1) - 287
Rhode Island - 221
Dayton - 206
VCU - 195
Massachusetts - 175
St. Bonaventure - 167
Richmond - 156
Duquesne - 146
La Salle - 85
George Washington - 73
Fordham - 33

[Da_Process_Survivor]

If Langevine isnt on the 1st team, then there is something seriously wrong

[ramster]

Langevine Stats:
1st in rebounding with 9.9 rpg
2nd in defensive rebounds
4th in offensive rebounds
4th in Blocked shots
8th in FG%
11th in points per game with 14.6 ppl

While he deserves 1st team after an outstanding year, what he will need to overcome in the voting is that URI finished 9-9

[steviep123]

Agreed. While he probably deserves it, its tough to get the nod on a middle of the game pack or just below team. It wouldn’t be as big of a slight as Stan getting snubbed on dpoy last season. Still a travesty.

[Blue Man]

I put this in another thread as well, but to extrapolate on that:

I have zero confidence that the A10 season awards are anything but a fucked up popularity contest.

Yuta Wantanabe beat out Stan for DPOY last year.

Jared Terrell was the only A10 first teamer. EC was 3rd team. Jeff Dowtin was 3rd in the country in A/TO and wasn't honored on a team. Jarvis Garrett would've started at PG on any other roster but for some reason wasn't 6th man.

We were ranked pretty much the entire year with 5 seniors on the roster, in a conference that had 2 at-large teams, and only had 2 players make the 3 all conference teams.

This is the time of year I am always reminded how much I hate this conference, the other teams, their fans, and how badly I want us to ruin everyone else's March.

[RhodyRams12]

[RhodyRams12]

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[Rhodymob05]

No Jeff?? Cyril only second team?? Screw that.

[bigappleram]

What a joke. Hope Cyril comes out pissed AF, he got robbed.

[Taylor Swift]

Not seeing Jeff's name on there is horse shit. Cyril SECOND team? Thanks....

[Dino611]

Change Cyril with stockards spot and Bess or Brown for Grady, wasn’t Stockard out for a 1/3 of the year?? And Grady couldn’t put up good numbers, the other three deserve it, the other two don’t deserve first team. Jeff should’ve gotten third team instead of Jenkins. Whoever said this conference is horrible at giving awards you are 110% correct

[Section104]

The next time URI is given awards that align with actual production will be a first...we're consistently left off or knocked down a peg by the A10 coaches. Either our record is below others and they blame that as a reason (ECs freshmen year, Hass soph year, this year) or they claim individual stats on worse teams trumped our players stats (completely dismissing our better record).

List of Snubs
EC shared ROY with Bembry
Hassan lost DPOY to an injured Weber
JT missed out on POY behind Adams and Aldridge (and we won the conference outright)
Stan lost DPOY to Yuta (and we won the conference outright)
Cyril not first team
Cyril not Most Improved
Jeff not third team

[wpbrown8267]

yeah, this is bogus. But the A10 has a great track record of fucking this up every year.

Throw it on the bulletin board for the A10 tourney. No one respects you, so go out there and destroy every team. I know their focused, but I hope both are pissed and this plays to our advantage as both ride roughshod on everyone

[Rhodyhooopz]

It's 1988 all over again. Cox needs to use this as motivation. Us against the World mentality

[SmartyBarrett]

yeah, this is bogus. But the A10 has a great track record of fucking this up every year.

Can count on it as much as death and taxes.

[Da_Process_Survivor]

gee, what a surprise...we get fucked over yet again by the league.

red headed step kids up here

[section(105)]

......how/who makes these selections?

[PeterRamTime]

Jeff has to be third team.

I can see how Cyril could be knocked down a peg from first team for his turnovers, but how many A-10 players average a double double???

JT lost out on player of the year when he went cold at the end of the season and we fell apart a little bit.

Jeff has had all the praise in the world from everyone, but the league.

Still the worst ever was putting Yuta Watanabe over Stan Robinson for defensive player of the year....that just....straight up PISSES me off. Dumbest shit ever.

[Blue Man]

I put this in another thread as well, but to extrapolate on that:

I have zero confidence that the A10 season awards are anything but a fucked up popularity contest.

Yuta Wantanabe beat out Stan for DPOY last year.

Jared Terrell was the only A10 first teamer. EC was 3rd team. Jeff Dowtin was 3rd in the country in A/TO and wasn't honored on a team. Jarvis Garrett would've started at PG on any other roster but for some reason wasn't 6th man.

We were ranked pretty much the entire year with 5 seniors on the roster, in a conference that had 2 at-large teams, and only had 2 players make the 3 all conference teams.

This is the time of year I am always reminded how much I hate this conference, the other teams, their fans, and how badly I want us to ruin everyone else's March.

A. LITTLE. BIT. LOUDER. FOR. THE. PEOPLE. IN. THE. BACK.

I used to hear that Rhody never got credit because they never were top of the conference - OK, I thought. Didn't agree with it but it made some sense. You'd think the awards should just go to the best players.

Then we ran shit in this conference for a few years and the awards didn't change.

Cyril Langevine would've started on every other team in the conference this year and made them better. Averaging a double double gets you second team??

You'd think you need a forward for rebounding, blocking, and scoring...

The two forwards picked ahead of him averaged 5.6 rebounds a game. Langevine averaged almost double that.

Cyril averaged 1.5 blocks a game - double what Stockard or Toppin averaged.

Toppin, Stockard, and Langevine averaged pretty much the same for points 14.4, 15.4, and 14.6.

Cyril was a workhorse who played over 100 more minutes than either of those 2.

As for the turnovers? Cyril did have his share of bad games and unsure hands, but he had less turnovers overall and per game than Stockard (3.0 vs 3.4). Toppin averaged 1.8.

So to sum it up - Cyril, who plays a position that needs you to be able to rebound and block shots; had double the rebounds and blocked shots as two other forwards, with nearly the same amount of points, and was somehow left off the first team.

This conference blows and has never had our back. Let's go spoil everyone else's party.

[TruePoint]

I can see how Cyril could be knocked down a peg from first team for his turnovers

Lolwut

[hrstrat57]

The Bulletin Board is looking good.

Let’s be thieves.

Go Rhody.

[ramster]

Cyril should have made 1st team but the 9-9 record unfortunately hurt him.
All 5 1st team spots went to Top 4 First round bye teams
VCU
Davidson - 2
Dayton
St Bonaventure

I was afraid of that
Don’t think turnovers were the deciding factor
Cyril had a great year. A 1st team performance
2nd team is good for a Junior who was not picked preseason at all. Don’t agree he was t 1st team but it be hard to leave top league finishers without anybody
He made all defensive team too
Wait til next year - he will be even more dominating

[PeterRamTime]

I can see how Cyril could be knocked down a peg from first team for his turnovers

Lolwut

He had a handful of games where he his numbers were okay, but straight bull in a China shopped it up and had a bunch of turnovers and hurt us just as much and sometimes more than helped. That coupled with us having so many horrid performances overall can be a recipe for a second team demotion.

[Billyboy78]

I can see how Cyril could be knocked down a peg from first team for his turnovers

Lolwut

He had a handful of games where he his numbers were okay, but straight bull in a China shopped it up and had a bunch of turnovers and hurt us just as much and sometimes more than helped. That coupled with us having so many horrid performances overall can be a recipe for a second team demotion.

Without Cyril we're 0-18.

[reef]

El Jefe not getting at least 3rd team is criminal , do these voters actually watch the games ??

Jeff not getting 3rd team is worse than Cyril not getting 1st team

[adam914]

I still can't even properly put into words what a joke it is that Cyril isn't first team.

[wpbrown8267]

I can see how Cyril could be knocked down a peg from first team for his turnovers

Lolwut

He had a handful of games where he his numbers were okay, but straight bull in a China shopped it up and had a bunch of turnovers and hurt us just as much and sometimes more than helped. That coupled with us having so many horrid performances overall can be a recipe for a second team demotion.

You do realize how incredibly difficult it is to average a double-double got the entire season. Turnovers aside this team would be battling it out with Chicago state if we didn’t have him

[theblueram]

I can see how Cyril could be knocked down a peg from first team for his turnovers

Lolwut

He had a handful of games where he his numbers were okay, but straight bull in a China shopped it up and had a bunch of turnovers and hurt us just as much and sometimes more than helped. That coupled with us having so many horrid performances overall can be a recipe for a second team demotion.

WOW.

[Blue Man]

Cyril should have made 1st team but the 9-9 record unfortunately hurt him.
All 5 1st team spots went to Top 4 First round bye teams
VCU
Davidson - 2
Dayton
St Bonaventure

I was afraid of that
Don’t think turnovers were the deciding factor
Cyril had a great year. A 1st team performance
2nd team is good for a Junior who was not picked preseason at all. Don’t agree he was t 1st team but it be hard to leave top league finishers without anybody
He made all defensive team too
Wait til next year - he will be even more dominating

This is true unless you’re talking about URI being a top league finisher and then there’s a reason why it can’t be a URI player.

Yuta Wantanabe played the most minutes in the A10 on one of the worst teams - somehow that made him DPOY.

[TruePoint]

I can see how Cyril could be knocked down a peg from first team for his turnovers

Lolwut

He had a handful of games where he his numbers were okay, but straight bull in a China shopped it up and had a bunch of turnovers and hurt us just as much and sometimes more than helped. That coupled with us having so many horrid performances overall can be a recipe for a second team demotion.

People here constantly made too big of a deal about his turnovers.

[Rhody15]

Anyone with twitter go to the A10 talk profile and look at the tweet / responses to their Obi Toppin tweet.

A10 Talk had no idea Lamar played at Rhody....

Don’t care how old the people are running it, that’s almost inexcusable.

[JimSidd]

The voters at least got one thing right: Gudmundsson as POY. Well deserved. On the other hand, Grady must have some friends in the voting block: not sure he deserved first team. I think he had a better year last year.

[Rhody83]

El Jefe not getting at least 3rd team is criminal , do these voters actually watch the games ??

Jeff not getting 3rd team is worse than Cyril not getting 1st team

The voters are the A10 coaches. I hope they watch the games. The A10 needs to turn this over to the media that cover the A10 schools.

[PeterRamTime]

Lolwut

He had a handful of games where he his numbers were okay, but straight bull in a China shopped it up and had a bunch of turnovers and hurt us just as much and sometimes more than helped. That coupled with us having so many horrid performances overall can be a recipe for a second team demotion.

You do realize how incredibly difficult it is to average a double-double got the entire season. Turnovers aside this team would be battling it out with Chicago state if we didn’t have him

Yeah no doubt!

All I'm saying is

I can see how he could get put down to second team because of the turnovers/sloppy play below guys on teams that finished better with similar numbers and less sloppy play.

I do think he should be first team.

Hes especially been excellent lately. His footwork has gotten a lot better.

Anyways hes about to make the all tournament team

[PeterRamTime]

CBS.com named Fatts national player of the week!

[Dino611]

The voters at least got one thing right: Gudmundsson as POY. Well deserved. On the other hand, Grady must have some friends in the voting block: not sure he deserved first team. I think he had a better year last year.

100% agree with you on this

[phipsiGD'11]

CBS.com named Fatts national player of the week!

Yet the A10 made him share Player of the Week. What a joke.

Bottle this ball up and use it as motivation for the tournament.

[SmartyBarrett]

What an embarrassment for the A-10. I sometimes have to take a step back and ask myself if I'm being an over-the-top homer when I say that they screw up league awards on a regular basis, but this confirms it. When the national media knows more about your league than you do, it's time to reevaluate things.

Also, FWIW, as of this posting, there has been zero mention of Fatts winning National POTW on the A-10 website or any of their social media channels.

[CHICO 78]

Our guards are covered with the stench of the year long abysmal shooting performance
that 4 or 5 good games at the end can't wash off. Being the worst shooting 3 pt. shot team
in the country for a long stretch is probably burned into the decision makers brains.
Jeff and Fatts had some good games but they had some really really bad ones that people
don't/won't forget. They don't side with us even in the best of times. This unfortunately isn't
unexpected.

[wpbrown8267]

The voters at least got one thing right: Gudmundsson as POY. Well deserved. On the other hand, Grady must have some friends in the voting block: not sure he deserved first team. I think he had a better year last year.

100% agree with you on this

Yup, this. Gudmundsson was solid all year. Grady was incredibly inconsistent. Had some really good games in the scoring column, but was also invisible for 1/3 of the season. Not 1st team worthy. Shit, we held him to 4 or 5 pts at the Ryan this year

[RF1]

Cyril Langevine named to USBWA District 1 Team:

http://www.sportswriters.net/usbwa/news ... 90312.html

[phipsiGD'11]

Cyril Langevine named to USBWA District 1 Team:

http://www.sportswriters.net/usbwa/news ... 90312.html

Only A10 player from my quick glance.

I'm sure the A10 will congratulate him and celebrate this via social media to use as marketing to highlight the success of the conference...

[rambone 78]

JD, CL, and DR will all have a chance to be 1st or 2nd team A10 next season...but to do so, the team has to finish near the top of the conference.

Not that it matters all that much, but let's see where they are in the preseason rankings.

Cyril at least should be 1st team.

[ramster]

Cyril Langevine named to USBWA District 1 Team:

http://www.sportswriters.net/usbwa/news ... 90312.html

Only A10 player from my quick glance.

I'm sure the A10 will congratulate him and celebrate this via social media to use as marketing to highlight the success of the conference...

You are right PhipsiGD,
Langevine is the only A10 player. Ironic that he only made 2nd team in his own conference. Some of those regions are tough loaded with ACC and SEC schools but still noteworthy recognition for Cyril!!!

[steviep123]

[ATPTourFan]

[Rhody_NYCT]

Chiming in late on Cyril...the A10 should be embarrassed that they didn't have him on 1st team. It is a joke. Not wasting any more time on this one.

[reef]

DiSano just made my point Jefe snub was criminal
How is he not one of the 15 best players in the A10 something seriously wrong

[ramster]

He had a handful of games where he his numbers were okay, but straight bull in a China shopped it up and had a bunch of turnovers and hurt us just as much and sometimes more than helped. That coupled with us having so many horrid performances overall can be a recipe for a second team demotion.

You do realize how incredibly difficult it is to average a double-double got the entire season. Turnovers aside this team would be battling it out with Chicago state if we didn’t have him

Yeah no doubt! All I'm saying is
I can see how he could get put down to second team because of the turnovers/sloppy play below guys on teams that finished better with similar numbers and less sloppy play.
I do think he should be first team.
Hes especially been excellent lately. His footwork has gotten a lot better.
Anyways hes about to make the all tournament team

Disagree on the Turnovers having kept him off the 1st Team
Look at the comparison between Langevine and Stockard...............and Evans

Turnovers were heavily in CLs favor versus Stockard and equal to Evans

• Stockard led the A10 in TO's with 66.......CL had 44.......Evans for VCU had 45 so it makes no sense to criticize CL's TOs as compared to these two guys

• In addition, Russell, Thompson and Dowtin contributed to the worst 3 PG shooting in the A10. Teams began playing zone, daring us to shoot from outside and double and triple teaming CL.

• CL sometimes scored versus 2 or 3 guys trying to stop him. Defenders would swat at the ball and at his body, yet CL was 8th in the A10 in FG% with 58.1%. The Double/triple teaming led to offensive fouls too as they tried to set up and draw fouls. These led to Offensive Fouls which are also recorded as Turnovers in the Box Scores

Shooting Percentages were in CL's favor especially vs Stockard

• CL shot 58.1% on FG compared with Stockard who shot a horrible 37.7%. Stockard only shot 27% on 3FG's

• Evans shot 47.5% on FG and 29.6% on 3FG's

Rebounding was very heavy in CL's favor

• CL averaged 9.9 Rebounds per game to lead the A10

• CL was 4.1 rpg more than Stockard and 3.1 rpg more than Toppin

Scoring was even

• CL with 14.6 ppg for 11th in A10

• Stockard had 15.2 ppg

• Evans had 14.9 ppg

Blocked shots were heavy in CL's favor

• CL had 31 blocks for 4th in the A10

• Toppin had 14 blocks

• Stockard had 8 blocks

• Evans had 4 blocks

Free Throw percentages were not in CL's favor. CL was much more important to URI's success than Stockard was to St Bonaventure or Evans was to VCU. This should fire up the entire URI Team as they go against VCU

I do not see how Stockard or Evans made the 1st team A10 over Cyril Langevine