Uconn Announces Self-imposed Sanctions

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

Not sure where to put this. Feel free to move.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 5 years ago

Looks like Hurley may automatically get an extra year added to his contract. Had language granting it if the school had any sanctions relating to actions before he came on board.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑5 years ago Not sure where to put this. Feel free to move.

These penalties are so watered down it seems embarrassing even to list them

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 5 years ago

No loss of scholarships? This is a joke.

gorhody89 · Unread post by **gorhody89** » 5 years ago

theblueram wrote: ↑5 years ago No loss of scholarships? This is a joke.

Pretty sure it said loss of 1 scholarship for 2019 season.....regardless these are sooooo soft, what a joke if NCAA agrees

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 5 years ago

ramster wrote: ↑5 years ago
Billyboy78 wrote: ↑5 years ago Not sure where to put this. Feel free to move.

These penalties are so watered down it seems embarrassing even to list them

Agree. If whatever you did is deserving of this level of sanctions then you shouldn’t be volunteering for anything, you should be fighting it to the death. So obviously whatever they did deserves much more severe penalty, and I can comfortably say that while admitting I have no idea what they actually did. These “sanctions” would fall under the category of “why even bother.”

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 5 years ago

Talk about a slap on the wrist jeez

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 5 years ago

gorhody89 wrote: ↑5 years ago
theblueram wrote: ↑5 years ago No loss of scholarships? This is a joke.
Pretty sure it said loss of 1 scholarship for 2019 season.....regardless these are sooooo soft, what a joke if NCAA agrees

Is a grant in aid a scholarship?

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

Losing one scholarship will hurt them for 2019-20. They have three players signed for next year (counting Akok).
I believe they will have 5 spots open. Losing a scholarship means they have 1 left. Their plan was to go after two bigs.

I agree it could be worse from the NCAA. The infractions seemed pretty minor.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

Not a good week for UCONN Mens basketball:
1) Find out your Athletic Dept had a $40 million shortfall in 2018.
2) your coach get ps thrown out of game
3) your team loses to go 1-4 in conference
4) you self impose recruiting sanctions on your team

Da_Process_Survivor · Unread post by **Da_Process_Survivor** » 5 years ago

If I'm Ollie's lawyer I'm very happy today.

If the school felt the violations were so minor that these soft wrist slaps are enough punishment then they just damaged their justified firing case

STC · Unread post by **STC** » 5 years ago

Those self imposed sanctions are laughable. Really shows what a joke the NCAA has become that UConn felt like this was actually some sort of penalty.

Gutless Mark Emmert will sign off on it no doubt.

“Penalties” 6 & 7 are my favorite. LOL

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 5 years ago

Did they ban gum chewing on the bench? That would be severe.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

STC wrote: ↑5 years ago Those self imposed sanctions are laughable. Really shows what a joke the NCAA has become that UConn felt like this was actually some sort of penalty.

Gutless Mark Emmert will sign off on it no doubt.

“Penalties” 6 & 7 are my favorite. LOL

The $5,000 fine is laughable. Did a committee at UConn come up with that one.
Here is my take of the conversation in a UConn Athletic Dept meeting:
AD: “Let’s see we have an $81 million Athletic budget. What would be a fair fine to self-impose for multiple NCAA violations?”
Jr dept staff: “$500,000?”
AD: (in a raised voice) “Who are you! And what did you just say!”
Jr dept staff: “I am John Moneybucks III (son of big donor) and I said $5,000 sir.”
AD: “That’s what I thought you said. I like your thinking John.”

section(105) · Unread post by **section(105)** » 5 years ago

......oh well, what goes around comes around.....or is it what comes around goes around.......

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

What a farce...of course the NCAA will probably sign off on it due to all of the other investigations surrounding the FBI deal.

Too much else on their plate....but they should at least increase the fine by a LOT.

UConn would have looked better if they had announced a postseason ban for this season...since they aren't going anywhere anyway.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

They tried the self-imposed penalties when Calhoun got in trouble. The NCAA added on to the self-imposed list

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

Taylor Swift · Unread post by **Taylor Swift** » 5 years ago

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Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

Good article here

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago Good article here

Funny...

Yes, Dan Hurley has to clean up Ollie’s mess. All of it. Huge job. He just can’t make too much of a roaring mess of it himself on the sidelines. It will do him no favors.

Ramulous · Unread post by **Ramulous** » 5 years ago

Not released to the public is that Dan Hurley now has a 6pm curfew on weeknights and 8pm when there is no school the next day....

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago

I think there is some truth to this. UConn does not want to pay Ollie the full 10M+ he is owed. They want some sort of penalty from the NCAA to strengthen their just cause firing. UConn however does not want any punishment to be very severe as that would hurt the future of its hoops program. It is my belief that UConn is very actively helping the NCAA with its investigation on small infractions with the hope that they assess a very lax punishment.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 5 years ago

UConn AD won't rule out cutting some sports amid $40M budget gap
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... ome-sports

SmartyBarrett · Unread post by **SmartyBarrett** » 5 years ago

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 5 years ago

Meanwhile on the legal front:

Federal judge hears arguments in Kevin Ollie-UConn $10M dispute
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... eral-court

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 5 years ago

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 4 years ago

Judge ruling good for Ollie, makes things tougher for UCONN moving forward ...

https://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-me ... story.html

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 4 years ago

ramster wrote: ↑4 years ago Judge ruling good for Ollie, makes things tougher for UCONN moving forward ...

https://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-me ... story.html

Perhaps this will help facilitate a settlement. Rumor has been that UConn has been really low-balling him on a payout. Maybe they will rethink this given his union rights will have to be adhered to in an ongoing legal case. This long drawn out legal wrangling must be getting expensive for both sides.

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 4 years ago

All that ruling presented was the need for a higher-threshold for termination. Two months ago, that might have been really significant. But after the NCAA came out with their ruling and basically banned Ollie for 3 years, I would consider that a significant plus for the UCONN side. All they should really have to say is “If this was nothing substantial, why did the NCAA show-cause Ollie for 3 years?” In the words of Matt Norlander, “a show cause penalty for lower-level offenses is unusual.” Now I suppose Ollie could try to sell that a large reason he was show-caused had more to do with his deception than the violations themselves, but if I were UCONN I would simply argue that “if the violations weren’t that significant than why be deceptive to investigators?”

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 4 years ago

Ollie was however fired BEFORE the NCAA investigation.

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 4 years ago

RF1 wrote: ↑4 years ago Ollie was however fired BEFORE the NCAA investigation.

Why does that matter? The language in his contract said he was able to be terminated with cause. The NCAA investigation backed the school that there was plenty of “cause,” including his “show-cause” by the NCAA directly. The NCAA investigation will not have a direct impact on the arbitration process, but I would think UCONN would feel pretty good with that support behind them. The union only protects him in that it defines his behavior for termination as needing to be “extreme,” but no one knows what they define as extreme.

Based on what I’ve seen, it sounds like Ollie’s lawyers are going to attack the NCAA process, therefore trying to put a major crack in UCONN’s ability to use that as their support system.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

You would think at some point why not just settle the damn thing.

I had heard a while ago that UConn had offered Ollie 3 mil to settle it, but he rejected it.

If that's true, that should have been the end of it, but I guess not.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 4 years ago

Let the courts handle it I bet they will say he gets paid but maybe like 5 M not 10

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 4 years ago

reef wrote: ↑4 years ago Let the courts handle it I bet they will say he gets paid but maybe like 5 M not 10

I have read that an arbitrator might only be able to rule on Ollie's due process firing. This would be a yes or no type verdict and means all (near some $11M) or nothing for the payout. The arbitrator may not have the authority to make a monetary judgement. This is now being handled as a union grievance as KO was a member of the faculty union at UConn and is protected and covered by all its rights.

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 4 years ago

RF1 wrote: ↑4 years ago
reef wrote: ↑4 years ago Let the courts handle it I bet they will say he gets paid but maybe like 5 M not 10
I have read that an arbitrator might only be able to rule on Ollie's due process firing. This would be a yes or no type verdict and means all (near some $11M) or nothing for the payout. The arbitrator may not have the authority to make a monetary judgement. This is now being handled as a union grievance as KO was a member of the faculty union at UConn and its protected and covered by all its rights.

I think that would mostly make sense. I mean, if he was fired in a situation where he shouldn't have been fired, then he deserves all of his money. If he was fired in a situation where he deserved to be fired, then he deserves none of the money. I would think if they missed a step in "due process," it would be similar to a criminal proceeding. I'm no legal expert, but I'm pretty sure if you pick a gun off a person in a murder case, and it doesn't follow proper chain of custody, the gun isn't allowed in legal proceedings, even though everyone knows where it came from. That person can walk on that charge for lack of evidence right, even though everyone knows he/she is guilty? And I would think the same thing would happen here, even if the NCAA investigation was legit and Ollie deserved his "show-cause" from the NCAA, one missed step from UCONN during his firing could screw up their whole case. And at that point, even if he deserved to be fired, i'd think he'd get the whole sum. Hopefully for UCONN's sake they followed protocol.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 4 years ago

Pay that man his money and screw the UConn Huskies

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 1 year ago

Kevin Ollie likely to interview for Detroit Pistons Head Coach position

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