‘19 PA SG - Dahmir Bishop (Xavier > St Joe’s > FGCU)

[rambone 78]

Obvious question of the day:

Do we pursue him?

[Rhody15]

Obvious question of the day:

Do we pursue him?

I don’t see why we wouldn’t at least kick the tires on him.

[Billyboy78]

Since we now have 3 scholarships, we could still get 2 bigs if we got Bishop.

[bigappleram]

Obvious question of the day:

Do we pursue him?

YES

[giovanni]

Of course IMO.

[Billyboy78]

I know I could go back through this thread and find out but, where did we stand with him? Final 10? Final 5? I know he and Fatts are close. I do remember that.

[bigappleram]

Would there be anything more indicative of modern recruiting than prioritizing a kid, recruiting him hard, losing him, reverting to a Plan B, then Plan B transfers out and your priority transfers in.

[wpbrown8267]

I know I could go back through this thread and find out but, where did we stand with him? Final 10? Final 5? I know he and Fatts are close. I do remember that.

We were the bridesmaid

Rumors of Penn State and VCU also among his final list

[giovanni]

Wasn't PC a late entry also?

[KevanBoyles]

And there it is.

Wow. Small world.

[DC_Rams]

Obvious question of the day:

Do we pursue him?

This is why relationship building is so important. There is no doubt in my mind the staff picks up the phone for this kid. He’s probably regretting he didn’t come here in the first place.

[ace]

Would there be anything more indicative of modern recruiting than prioritizing a kid, recruiting him hard, losing him, reverting to a Plan B, then Plan B transfers out and your priority transfers in.

Different path, but as Jared Terrell has taught us- nothing wrong with being someone’s second choice.

I’m not sure there’s anything more indicative of a certain aspect of fandom then some people slamming guys for transferring- kids today! with their need for immediate gratification and unwillingness to stick it out in a tough situation!- and then turning around and being all, that guy? Who did the same thing? Sure, get him, would welcome him with open arms. It’s just so great.

But yeah, absolutely get Bishop if he’s interested. I’ll have to see what the buzz is with the Philly basketball guys I know. I love the idea of him being in that sophomore class with Toppin and Long.

[wpbrown8267]

Wasn't PC a late entry also?

I believe you're correct

XU - committed
Rhody #2 (we were mentioned to be the 'other' leader until after his visit to XU)
PSU, VCU, PC (finalists as well)

[Billyboy78]

Would there be anything more indicative of modern recruiting than prioritizing a kid, recruiting him hard, losing him, reverting to a Plan B, then Plan B transfers out and your priority transfers in.

Different path, but as Jared Terrell has taught us- nothing wrong with being someone’s second choice.

I’m not sure there’s anything more indicative of a certain aspect of fandom then some people slamming guys for transferring- kids today! with their need for immediate gratification and unwillingness to stick it out in a tough situation!- and then turning around and being all, that guy? Who did the same thing? Sure, get him, would welcome him with open arms. It’s just so great.

But yeah, absolutely get Bishop if he’s interested. I’ll have to see what the buzz is with the Philly basketball guys I know.

Excellent point. Guilty as charged!!

[DC_Rams]

Not to mention, him and Fatts are CLOSE!

[ace]

Would there be anything more indicative of modern recruiting than prioritizing a kid, recruiting him hard, losing him, reverting to a Plan B, then Plan B transfers out and your priority transfers in.

Different path, but as Jared Terrell has taught us- nothing wrong with being someone’s second choice.

I’m not sure there’s anything more indicative of a certain aspect of fandom then some people slamming guys for transferring- kids today! with their need for immediate gratification and unwillingness to stick it out in a tough situation!- and then turning around and being all, that guy? Who did the same thing? Sure, get him, would welcome him with open arms. It’s just so great.

But yeah, absolutely get Bishop if he’s interested. I’ll have to see what the buzz is with the Philly basketball guys I know.

Excellent point. Guilty as charged!!

But that’s why I like you- you can be all emotional in the moment and then later kind of own it if it’s been irrational

[TruePoint]

Haha

[DC_Rams]

Transfer recruiting is a little more quiet than regular recruiting. We likely won’t know where he’s headed until the news leaks. I like our chances more than anyone, especially since the backup plan to Bishop (Greg), just left the program.

[adam914]

I’m not sure there’s anything more indicative of a certain aspect of fandom then some people slamming guys for transferring- kids today! with their need for immediate gratification and unwillingness to stick it out in a tough situation!- and then turning around and being all, that guy? Who did the same thing? Sure, get him, would welcome him with open arms. It’s just so great.

Haha yeah, came here to say the exact same thing!

[DC_Rams]

https://247sports.com/college/xavier/bo ... 63/?page=2

Who can see this?

[Rhody Blue]

Below is link to Xavier message board with some posts on Bishop. A couple of comments on his shot FWIW....

http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.p ... fer-portal

[Rhody15]

This comment made by a poster on their board made me lol.

"3 SG's transfer in 3 years right? 3 misses. No wonder we can't shoot."

[FDshoes]

He can not transfer yo another BE school, correct? Because PC could really use him and actually have more open scholarships then we do next year.

[Rhody83]

https://247sports.com/college/xavier/bo ... 63/?page=2

Who can see this?

I have a subscription. It is the message board on 247. Anything specific you are looking to read?

[Rhody83]

He can not transfer yo another BE school, correct? Because PC could really use him and actually have more open scholarships then we do next year.

You need to have an open scholarship for January which PC doesn’t.
Most Conferences add a year penalty for a transfer in Conference (has to sit out 2 years).

[SandorClegane]

Welp. This just got more interesting..

[URIRecruitingInfo]

I’m not sure there’s anything more indicative of a certain aspect of fandom then some people slamming guys for transferring- kids today! with their need for immediate gratification and unwillingness to stick it out in a tough situation!- and then turning around and being all, that guy? Who did the same thing? Sure, get him, would welcome him with open arms. It’s just so great.

Haha yeah, came here to say the exact same thing!

Plenty of D1 coaches, including Cox recently, have made kids today comments about all of the transferring and still try to land good transfers. I don't think its as hypocritical as you're making it out to be.

[DC_Rams]

https://247sports.com/college/xavier/bo ... 63/?page=2

Who can see this?

I have a subscription. It is the message board on 247. Anything specific you are looking to read?

The article said it listed the top 2 potential landing spots

[DC_Rams]

[Rhodymob05]

Everything happens for a reason. Lets see if this pans out. What are the two schools mentioned?

[thatRamBand]

The Xavier VIP thread (you can get a 7-day free trial) has a couple of posts from their program insiders. Brian Snow says he's hearing Rhode Island and St. Joe's as the two most likely destinations.

[Rhody83]

247 Article

Xavier freshman Dahmir Bishop is leaving the team and has entered the transfer portal.o
The news was confirmed to MusketeerReport Thursday morning.

Bishop's decision comes after Xavier's 68-62 loss at Villanova to open Big East play. A Philadelphia native, Bishop didn't get off the bench for the second-straight game.

Sources told MusketeerReport that Bishop's lack of playing time was the motivating factor behind his choice to leave Xavier. He had been considering it prior to the Villanova game but not getting on the floor while playing in his hometown was the final straw.

Prior to the TCU and Nova games, Bishop played just three minutes against Western Carolina and five minutes at Wake Forest. He didn't play in the two games prior to that against Cincinnati and Green Bay.

When asked about Bishop's dwindling minutes in multiple press conferences and radio shows, Steele said each time that he needed to earn his minutes in practice.

Bishop played in 10 games for Xavier and averaged 1.6 points, 2.5 rebounds, 0.9 assists, and 0.7 turnovers in 12.0 minutes per game while shooting 17.9% from the field and 11.8% (2-17) from 3-point range.

Expect Xavier to be a major player in the graduate transfer market this spring to try and add depth to make up for Bishop's departure. Also, the Musketeers will likely look to add multiple wings in the 2021 class now with more future minutes now available.

Bishop was ranked 117th overall in the 2019 class. It's not yet known where he'll transfer.

[Iggy1979]

Could he transfer to UConn this year and play in the Big East next year?

[Iggy1979]

Hopefully he's behind the bench tonight.

[ace]

Could he transfer to UConn this year and play in the Big East next year?

Their twelve spots are filled, but I don’t think so, or at least that’s what was told to me in a conversation about Akinjo. Jackson’s likely better than him anyway.

[DC_Rams]

The Xavier VIP thread (you can get a 7-day free trial) has a couple of posts from their program insiders. Brian Snow says he's hearing Rhode Island and St. Joe's as the two most likely destinations.

No way he goes to St. Joe’s. They stink and their trajectory doesn’t look favorable.

[FDshoes]

He can not transfer yo another BE school, correct? Because PC could really use him and actually have more open scholarships then we do next year.

You need to have an open scholarship for January which PC doesn’t.
Most Conferences add a year penalty for a transfer in Conference (has to sit out 2 years).

Thats right didnt even think of that aspect about needing the open scholie. But they do have 4 for next year and cant sign anyone yet

[Billyboy78]

When he was being recruited last year by Temple, there was talk of people wanting to get him away from Philly (was that his parents? I can't remember). So, if it's between us St. Joe's....

[DC_Rams]

Kid won’t be swayed by the bright lights again. He knows Cox, and his family believe his intentions are genuine.

[reef]

So if we land Bishop he sits out all next year then we get him for 3 full years ????

[rhodylaw]

I’m not sure how he could look at what Fatts has become here and not come to Rhody. Ish, wood and Bishop is a pretty solid sounding backcourt after Fatts graduates.

[rambone 78]

reef, since he's leaving before the start of 2nd semester, he would sit a year and be eligible for 2 and a half years, like Walker.

[Rhody83]

So if we land Bishop he sits out all next year then we get him for 3 full years ????

If he gets a waiver (I think unlikely) he would be eligible at the start of the season next year and play 3 seasons.
If he doesn’t get the waiver, he would be eligible in late December next year and play 2 1/2 seasons.

[rambone 78]

I would think we have a great chance to get him.

[Rhody83]

I don’t see Penn State as a landing spot.
They do have an open scholarship.
They have signed four ‘20 recruits for next year - two SGs, SF & C.
They have four Guards on the current roster returning next year - 2 Jrs & 2 Sophs.
They have three Srs - two Fs & one G

[Rhody83]

VCU doesn’t appear to be an option.
They have 13 scholarship players on their roster.
They have 5 Seniors.
They have signed 4 players for ‘20 class - PG, SG, SF & PF
Their Sr class has 3 Guards & 2 Forwards
Their Fr class has 3 Guards
They return 4-5 Guards next year plus have 2 signed.

[TruePoint]

If they don’t have a scholarship for the start of the second semester then I’d think that would eliminate them outright, regardless of what they have recruited for next year. I doubt anyone leaving school now is trying to sit at home until the summer then likely sit out all of next year at their new school.

[rhodyblue12]

If they don’t have a scholarship for the start of the second semester then I’d think that would eliminate them outright, regardless of what they have recruited for next year. I doubt anyone leaving school now is trying to sit at home until the summer then likely sit out all of next year at their new school.

Unless a school that wants him pushes one of their own kids out to create a spot.
Don't laugh, it happens.

[Rhody83]

If they don’t have a scholarship for the start of the second semester then I’d think that would eliminate them outright, regardless of what they have recruited for next year. I doubt anyone leaving school now is trying to sit at home until the summer then likely sit out all of next year at their new school.

Unless a school that wants him pushes one of their own kids out to create a spot.
Don't laugh, it happens.

In the middle of the year? The scholarship is good for the year. They aren’t pushing a kid out on Jan 2nd.
VCU could have someone leave by their own choice. I have heard of a few players leaving A10 schools in the last two weeks.

[DeanDome88]

If we land him there is going to be a battle for playing time in the backcourt next season. Bishop could get a little bit ahead by practicing this upcoming semester but fall behind if either freshman comes out of the gate strong next season.