College Football

[ramster]

#6 ranked and undefeated Wisconsin loses to Illinois. Wisconsin was favored by 30.5 points

[reef]

What a shocker that was

[Rhodymob05]

Wisconsin had hopes of a playoff spot, that is not possible now. Clemson still getting disrespected in my opinion.

[NYGFan_Section208]

Wisconsin had hopes of a playoff spot, that is not possible now. Clemson still getting disrespected in my opinion.

Which is fine...I don't mind seeing Dabo dissed...

[reef]

I don’t think Clemson has beaten anyone of note yet

[ramster]

I don’t think Clemson has beaten anyone of note yet

Clemson beat #12 ranked Texas A&M (ranking at the time they played them)

[reef]

I think Clemson has to go undefeated to get in the playoff one loss probably knocks them out

[ramster]

Reef,
You could say that for any of the Top 6, no?
If any of these Top 6 lose they could miss the playoff, not just Clemson. The total votes are very close between them.

Big game upcoming will be #2 LSU at #1 Alabama on Nov 9
Also big game is #6 Penn State at #3 Ohio State Nov 23

Even the 1st place votes are unusually close with no clear cut, unanimous #1 team. Alabama with 24, LSU with 16, Ohio State with 13 and Clemson with 9

AP
1 Alabama (24) (7-0)
2 LSU (16) (7-0)
3 Ohio State (13) (7-0)
4 Clemson (9) (7-0)
5 Oklahoma (7-0)
6 Penn State (7-0)

Coaches
1 Alabama (44)
2 Clemson (10)
3 LSU (3)
4 Ohio State (8)
5 Oklahoma
6 Penn State

[UCH21377]

no the SEC teams get a pass on a loss due to strength of conference. Clemson could get in with a loss depending on circumstances. Name recognition still counts like it or not.

what we really need is an 8 team playoff: the 5 conference champs, best champion of the rest, and two at large; which has been discussed here in the past.

[ATPTourFan]

[rjsuperfly66]

Reef,
You could say that for any of the Top 6, no?
If any of these Top 6 lose they could miss the playoff, not just Clemson. The total votes are very close between them.

Sure, if everyone remains undefeated, that is probably true.
However, I think if you have 2 1-loss teams for the last spot, and 1 of them is LSU with a loss at #1 Alabama, and the other is Clemson, I think that spot deserves to go to LSU 100 out of 100 times.

[ramster]

Reef,
You could say that for any of the Top 6, no?
If any of these Top 6 lose they could miss the playoff, not just Clemson. The total votes are very close between them.

Sure, if everyone remains undefeated, that is probably true.
However, I think if you have 2 1-loss teams for the last spot, and 1 of them is LSU with a loss at #1 Alabama, and the other is Clemson, I think that spot deserves to go to LSU 100 out of 100 times.

Agreed. Clemson has a relatively easy schedule the rest of the way. A loss by Clemson would hurt them.
Lot of big games today this top 6 will change.


AP
1 Alabama (24) (7-0)
2 LSU (16) (7-0)
3 Ohio State (13) (7-0)
4 Clemson (9) (7-0)
5 Oklahoma (7-0)
6 Penn State (7-0)

[reef]

Ohio State looks like the best team so far ???

I agree on the 8 team playoff make it happen baby !!

[ramster]

Reef,
You could say that for any of the Top 6, no?
If any of these Top 6 lose they could miss the playoff, not just Clemson. The total votes are very close between them.

Sure, if everyone remains undefeated, that is probably true.
However, I think if you have 2 1-loss teams for the last spot, and 1 of them is LSU with a loss at #1 Alabama, and the other is Clemson, I think that spot deserves to go to LSU 100 out of 100 times.

Agreed. Clemson has a relatively easy schedule the rest of the way. A loss by Clemson would hurt them.
Lot of big games today this top 6 will change.


AP
1 Alabama (24) (7-0)
2 LSU (16) (7-0)
3 Ohio State (13) (7-0)
4 Clemson (9) (7-0)
5 Oklahoma (7-0)
6 Penn State (7-0)

#16 SMU and #17 Minnesota remain undefeated with Minnesota demolishing Maryland.
LSU squeaks by Auburn at home by 3 points

Oklahoma with a shocking loss @ Unranked Kansas

Monster game upcoming Nov 9 is #2 LSU vs #1 Alabama

[rambone 78]

I agree that Ohio State might be the best team out there. They are killing everybody.

[reef]

LSU Bama will be a war come Nov 9th !!

[ramster]

AP Top 25 Monday October 28
1 LSU (17) (8-0) 1476
2 Alabama(21) (8-0) 1474
3 Ohio State (17) (8-0) 1468
4 Clemson (7) (8-0) 1406
5 Penn State (8-0) 1302

This is the closest the gap between #3 and #1 has been since December 3, 1979 or 40 years ago!

LSU overtakes Alabama for 1st 1476 to 1474. Alabama with 21 first place votes to 17 for LSU.
Fall of is from #4 Clemson with 1406 to #5 Penn State with 1302

Besides the top 5 undefeated all at (8-0) we have:
#12 Baylor (7-0)
#13 Minnesota (8-0)
#15 SMU (8-0)
#20 Appalachian State (7-0)

Big interest games upcoming:
Nov 9 LSU @ Alabama
Nov 9 Penn State @ Minnesota
Nov 16 Clemson @ Wake Forest
Nov 23 Penn State @ Ohio State
Nov 30 Ohio State @ Michigan

[rjsuperfly66]

I think it's setting up for:
1) SEC winner - Alabama/LSU/Georgia/Florida wins SEC even with 1 loss
2) Clemson - Goes undefeated and wins ACC
2) Big Ten winner - 1-loss Ohio St/Penn St or undefeated Minnesota (their schedule is about to get tough though)
4) Alabama/LSU loser (if winner wins SEC Championship) otherwise Alabama/LSU winner (if winner loses in SEC Championship) *Assumes both 1-loss
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5) Ohio St./Penn St loser if win out and #4 does not play out
6) Clemson loses game but wins ACC Championship and there is not a one-loss Alabama/LSU/Ohio St./Penn St non-conference winner in their way
7) Pac-12 winner - if team wins out, and big mess happens in front of them

[NYGFan_Section208]

So long Willie Taggart...we hardly knew ya...

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... ie-taggart

FSU raised about $20 million in private donations to buy out what was left of Taggart's contract, sources told ESPN's Mark Schlabach. However, an FSU official denied that the money was raised for Taggart's buyout.

I don't know if they raised $20M to can him or not...but if they did, many would not be surprised. That's a whole 'nother level of footballin' right there fer sure....

[reef]

Terrible hire in the first place, kudos for making the change now

[NYGFan_Section208]

Terrible hire in the first place, kudos for making the change now

A touch of schadenfreude ('cuz, really...nothing else good around this) if Florida taxpayers are footing any of that bill...specifically the UF and UM fans

[rambone 78]

No, boosters coughed up the entire 20 million buyout needed in a matter of hours.

Unreal.

[NYGFan_Section208]

No, boosters coughed up the entire 20 million buyout needed in a matter of hours.

Unreal.

I wouldn't doubt it if it were true, but have you found that confirmed anywhere?
Article says it was raised...the school denies it, but doesn't say where it came from...?

[TruePoint]

I believe that the money was raised privately. Anyways, Miami is a private school so if it came out of the state university system it wouldn’t impact them.

I think Taggert got what he deserves. Somewhat poetic that is departure is as weird and dumb as his arrival.

[NYGFan_Section208]

I believe that the money was raised privately. Anyways, Miami is a private school so if it came out of the state university system it wouldn’t impact them.

I think Taggert got what he deserves. Somewhat poetic that is departure is as weird and dumb as his arrival.

I mentioned Miami 'cuz my friend's a FL resident (taxpayer) and a 'canes fan (the olive on top of the sundae). He's less than psyched at the idea of funding the FSU coach buyout with his tax $$. You'd think it would have to be booster cash to happen that quickly, so I agree it was likely private. And totally...his departure is every bit as dumb as his arrival. Not sure that's all that's behind their suckitry this year...maybe FLA HS foo'ball ain't what it used to be?

[rambone 78]

Clemson fans are pissed that their team was left out of the top 4 last night.....doesn't matter at this point anyway....

As long as they don't lose, they will be there, since Ohio St. will probably knock Penn St. out when they play in a couple weeks.

I think Ohio St. is the likely national champ. No weaknesses.

[reef]

True If Clemson wins out they are in for sure

[rjsuperfly66]

True If Clemson wins out they are in for sure

College football playoff picture just isn't really that exciting until the end of the season.

Let's be honest, it's shaping up like this (not seeded in order)...

1) SEC Winner - LSU, Alabama, or Georgia
2) Big Ten Winner - Ohio St., Penn St., or undefeated Minnesota
3) Undefeated Clemson
4) LSU/Alabama 1-loss loser if winner wins SEC; LSU/Alabama winner if loser of SEC Championship
5) Penn St/Ohio St loser if 1-loss and winner is B1G Champion

There could be other variables down the line, but I think that is most likely.

[reef]

Is there a scenario where Oregon gets in the college football playoff?? I have a friend that bet on that 10-1 pre season

[rjsuperfly66]

Is there a scenario where Oregon gets in the college football playoff?? I have a friend that bet on that 10-1 pre season

I can't imagine so. The only scenario I can think that gets them there is:

LSU beats Alabama and wins the SEC Championship. Alabama also loses to Auburn to pick up a 2nd loss to eliminate them from CFP.
Penn St. loses at Minnesota and to Ohio St., who beats Minnesota in the Big 10 Championship game. Penn St. eliminated from CFP.

4 teams in are Ohio St., LSU, Clemson, and Oregon.

I think as long as there are 1-loss LSU, Alabama, Penn St., Ohio St., or even Clemson, any of those teams will be taken before Oregon.

[ramster]

True If Clemson wins out they are in for sure

College football playoff picture just isn't really that exciting until the end of the season.

Let's be honest, it's shaping up like this (not seeded in order)...

1) SEC Winner - LSU, Alabama, or Georgia
2) Big Ten Winner - Ohio St., Penn St., or undefeated Minnesota
3) Undefeated Clemson
4) LSU/Alabama 1-loss loser if winner wins SEC; LSU/Alabama winner if loser of SEC Championship
5) Penn St/Ohio St loser if 1-loss and winner is B1G Champion

There could be other variables down the line, but I think that is most likely.

RJ,
How can you say this?

This Saturday we have two great games involving undefeated teams.

LSU at Alabama
- 2 undefeated SEC Teams, long time geographical rivals, ranked 1 and 2. Doesn’t get any better
- Cheapest ticket on stubhub is $275

Penn State at Minnesota
- 2 undefeated Big 10 teams
- Huge opportunity for The Golden Gophers

These are two college football games I’ll be glued to the TV for

[reef]

LSU Alabama will be a war

[ramster]

Yes Reef,
It’s like a National Championship game being played during the season.

[rjsuperfly66]

True If Clemson wins out they are in for sure

College football playoff picture just isn't really that exciting until the end of the season.

Let's be honest, it's shaping up like this (not seeded in order)...

1) SEC Winner - LSU, Alabama, or Georgia
2) Big Ten Winner - Ohio St., Penn St., or undefeated Minnesota
3) Undefeated Clemson
4) LSU/Alabama 1-loss loser if winner wins SEC; LSU/Alabama winner if loser of SEC Championship
5) Penn St/Ohio St loser if 1-loss and winner is B1G Champion

There could be other variables down the line, but I think that is most likely.

RJ,
How can you say this?

This Saturday we have two great games involving undefeated teams.

LSU at Alabama
- 2 undefeated SEC Teams, long time geographical rivals, ranked 1 and 2. Doesn’t get any better
- Cheapest ticket on stubhub is $275

Penn State at Minnesota
- 2 undefeated Big 10 teams
- Huge opportunity for The Golden Gophers

These are two college football games I’ll be glued to the TV for

I'm only saying the playoff implications don't really matter, because this week, I don't think they really make a difference.

More likely than not at the end of this week, the playoff standings will look like:

1) Ohio St.
2) Alabama/LSU winner
3) Penn St. (assumes win)
4) Clemson
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5) Alabama/LSU loser
6) Georgia
7) Oregon

Assuming these teams aren't upset along the way, in two week Ohio St./Penn St. play, and one of two variations will happen ...

1) Ohio St.
2) Alabama/LSU winner
3) Clemson
4) Alabama/LSU loser
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5) Penn St.
6) Georgia
7) Oregon

Or...

1) Alabama/LSU winner
2) Penn St
3) Clemson
4) Ohio St.
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5) Alabama/LSU loser
6) Georgia
7) Oregon

I suppose in the latter scenario, you can get into the argument of who is the better 1-loss loser, whoever loses Bama/LSU or whoever loses Penn St/Ohio St., but realistically for the better part of the last month and for the better part of the next month, we'll be arguing about 5 teams for 4 spots. I don't find it super compelling. The only real excitement real shakeup can only really happen during conference championship week, if Georgia beats the Bama/LSU winner, or if Minnesota ran the table and beat Ohio St. I think until them, just have to pray for unlikely upsets.

[ramster]

Meanwhile enjoy the fun of College Football tomorrow.

All 4 of these teams are undefeated at (8-0)

Can watch both games in their entirety. Awesome day for college football lovers.

No. 4 Penn State takes on No. 17 Minnesota at noon ET on ABC

LSU-Bama (No. 2 vs. No. 3, per the College Football Playoff rankings) kicks off at 3:30 p.m. ET on CBS

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... er-weekend

[ramster]

Minnesota with a big interception in the end zone with a minute to go on a poorly thrown Penn State pass.
Minnesota (9-0) upsets Penn State (8-1)

Minnesota first time (9-0) since 1904!!!!

[reef]

LSU takes care of Bama also

LSU v Ohio St would be a great National Title game

[rambone 78]

I know it's late and the games are today, but who do ya got in the playoff?

I think LSU will roll against Oklahoma with or without their top running back. When the line opened at LSU -10 I should have jumped at that. It's now -13.5 I think.

Burrow has been lights out and I doubt that will change.

Hurts will do OK but he doesn't have enough help.

The second game should be a classic.

I want Ohio State to win but I'm not sure they will.

A lot of points in this one.

I think LSU ends up winning the whole thing. If it's against Clemson whose defense has been great all season, we will see if they hold up since they really didn't play anybody that good.

Against Ohio State whose defense is good but not great [except for Young of course] that will be a shootout.

[rambone 78]

What an historic performance by Burrow.

400 yards passing. In the first half.

7 TD passes. In the first half.

Amazing.

[ramster]

Great game As Clemson intercepts in the end zone with 30 seconds left.
So Clemson vs LSU
ACC vs SEC in New Orleans

[reef]

Yes good action all the way around

LSU looked dominant with Joe B

Clemson pulls it out late vs Buckeyes

LSU will beat Clemson to take it all ??

[rambone 78]

Clemson was lucky, they got the calls.

LSU will win it all, and it won't be that close.

[ramster]

LSU opened -6 points and soon after dropped to -5 points vs Clemson
Good for LSU that the National Championship is played in New Orleans this year - should be a high LSU percentage of fans

No need for the argument of 8 team playoff. Clearly the Top 3 teams were LSU, Clemson and Ohio State. Oklahoma was a drop off as the 4th seed

Clemson could win their 3rd National Championship in last 4 years

The 67 yard TD run by Trevor Lawrence in the first half was huge.
Clemson holding Ohio State to 3 field goals when they might have gotten TD’s was great defense especially when twice OSU was first down inside the 10 yard line

Max Venables defensive schemes kept OSU offense confused especially in the 2nd half as the put pressure on the QB

[ramster]

3 of the 4 QBs in the FCS Playoffs were in the top 4 voting for the Heissman Trophy - Lawrence was 7th
Etienne was a distant 9th
Both look great vs Ohio State

[UCH21377]

Interesting QB decisions coming up in the draft, especially if Lawrence ever decided to come out. I happen to think Lawrence is the best of the bunch but there good be a few good pro QB's in the group. If Lawrence stays at Clemson then Burrow will probably go first. Wonder how far Tua will drop?

[Rhodymob05]

I got Clemson winning this one too. LSU is the real deal, but Clemson is everyone’s kryptonite.

[reef]

I think LSU wins it I will say 37-20

[SGreenwell]

Interesting QB decisions coming up in the draft, especially if Lawrence ever decided to come out. I happen to think Lawrence is the best of the bunch but there good be a few good pro QB's in the group. If Lawrence stays at Clemson then Burrow will probably go first. Wonder how far Tua will drop?

It's weird - Todd McShay was on the Ryen Russillo pod last week, and he said he can't remember a situation like this where a guy from a major program went from a fourth or fifth round grade, to almost a consensus #1 pick. Guys from non-major conferences, or guys who transferred into a program and excelled, yes. From junior year to senior year, Burrow is 20 percent more accurate, and he's almost doubled his yardage, in only one more game. He threw five interceptions last year - this year, six in 100 more attempts. The one year improvement is crazy.