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reef wrote:Did any voters leave us outside Top 25 ???
Where Lil Kevie have us ??

Kmac had us at 18. Interesting that some voters ranked us HIGHER this week than last.

Rhody74 wrote:

reef wrote:Did any voters leave us outside Top 25 ???
Where Lil Kevie have us ??

Kmac had us at 18. Interesting that some voters ranked us HIGHER this week than last.

Assuming this is true, and I have no reason to doubt 74, I'm getting thirsty TP!

Will gladly buy a beer if it gets me KMac not trying to burn us.

I don't see this week's individual ballots yet. If someone else does please post link.

Rhody74 wrote:

reef wrote:Did any voters leave us outside Top 25 ???
Where Lil Kevie have us ??

Kmac had us at 18. Interesting that some voters ranked us HIGHER this week than last.

Could be the effect of the nationally televised game - seeing how close it was, that Bonnies are a legit club no matter how bad the rest of the A10 is - and it took that environment to get the bonnies to eek out a win in the last minute.

Rhody74 wrote:Http://collegepolltracker.com

This doesn't have this weeks ballots yet.

I'm pretty sure those of you who have mentioned KMac's ranking of 18 are looking at last week.

Correct. Data lot loaded yet, even on AP site:
https://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll-v ... n-mcnamara

Oops sorry about that

Very happy with the #18 ranking. Good to see Virginia holding onto #1 and Nevada jumping to #20 as well

Kmac had URI at 19 and the Bonnies at 25.

Jesse Newell had us out again ???

It’s cool that the URI page at the poll tracker website links to our humble forum.

reef wrote:Jesse Newell had us out again ???

He has 5 " EXTREME PICKS", 6 if you count the fact he doesn't even have number 18 URI on his top 25.

Idjit.

KMac keeps his string alive of voting for URI lower than where they end up. Although, he did show some love for the Bonnies.

IMO KMac had pretty solid rankings

That isn't really the point, though. The point is whether his rankings indicate that he has a bias against URI. Just because you hide your bias within the margin of error doesn't mean it isn't there. It makes it less obvious, but it doesn't change the fact that KMac has been consistently behind the curve when it comes to ranking URI.

It would be fair to point out that this does not actually matter that much, and I would agree. The only reason why it is even remotely relevant to me is because of the context in which the vote was cast, where historically he and his employer have not offered the same kind of deference and support to URI as they have to the other college basketball program that they cover. So when KMac is consistently and unfailingly lower on URI than the average American college basketball writer, I'm more likely to notice.

Jesse Newell is an absolute joke . Does he even watch college hoops ??

reef wrote:Jesse Newell is an absolute joke . Does he even watch college hoops ??

He and Li'l Kevie watch together.

Rhode_Island_Red wrote:

reef wrote:Jesse Newell is an absolute joke . Does he even watch college hoops ??

He and Li'l Kevie watch together.

Pictured here:

Is that Lil Kevie on left ???

I browse several boards for southern New England basketball. This board is by far the least petty of all. Don't see threads started about UConn and their pathetic belief Hurley will come running to them without a second thought. Nobody more arrogant then the Boneyarders. Don't see threads focused on PC. You'll find posts focused on URI on their principle board.

But where ProJo is concerned, just way too much paranoia, IMHO. The fact that KMac put Boneventure in his top 25 shows respect for Rhody. If they beat us, they were good enough to be ranked as far as KMac was concerned. And really, what the hell is the difference between 19 and 18?? I think some folks here look for conspiracy where there is none.

Yes, ProJo has focused on PC over the years. The reasons are many, and the reasons were justified. People lined up on the Ct. border to welcome them home when NIT championships actually meant something. They've been to the Final Four twice. They showcased home grown talent, like Ernie D, Marvin Barnes, Stacom, Hassett. They helped put RI on the college basketball map back in the day.

Just go on a run in the NCAA. I mean a real run. Deep. I mean really deep. You'll see more stories in the ProJo then you'll know what to do with, including all over the front page. Go deep and Rhody will make banner headlines in the Providence Journal. If you want to see them on our bandwagon like never before in their existance, just do it.

Paleoguy wrote:I browse several boards for southern New England basketball. This board is by far the least petty of all. Don't see threads started about UConn and their pathetic belief Hurley will come running to them without a second thought. Nobody more arrogant then the Boneyarders. Don't see threads focused on PC. You'll find posts focused on URI on their principle board.

But where ProJo is concerned, just way too much paranoia, IMHO. The fact that KMac put Boneventure in his top 25 shows respect for Rhody. If they beat us, they were good enough to be ranked as far as KMac was concerned. And really, what the hell is the difference between 19 and 18?? I think some folks here look for conspiracy where there is none.

Yes, ProJo has focused on PC over the years. The reasons are many, and the reasons were justified. People lined up on the Ct. border to welcome them home when NIT championships actually meant something. They've been to the Final Four twice. They showcased home grown talent, like Ernie D, Marvin Barnes, Stacom, Hassett. They helped put RI on the college basketball map back in the day.

Just go on a run in the NCAA. I mean a real run. Deep. I mean really deep. You'll see more stories in the ProJo then you'll know what to do with, including all over the front page. Go deep and Rhody will make banner headlines in the Providence Journal. If you want to see them on our bandwagon like never before in their existance, just do it.

Excellent post. I agree for the most part. However, before PC became popular in the 50s/60s, URI did it in the 30s and 40s under Frank Keaney. His Rhody teams had fans filling trains to NYC and had folks lining up to greet them at the Kingston train station. While they never won the NIT (which some could argue was the better tournament to be invited to back then), they made the then 8 team tournament several times in the 30s and 40s, with their best finish in 1946. For those that don't know the history, Ernie Calvalry hit the "shot heard round the world" - a 63 footer in the NIT quarterfinals to send the game into overtime, which the Rams would ultimately win. Calvalry's shot was named one of the best moments in MSG history. They later lost to Kentucky by one point in the championship. Keaney is well known as the inventor of the fast break and his teams were averaging in the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, and even 80s, while others were averaging in the low teens. They were known as the "point a minute Rams" and later "two points a minute Rams." His teams put URI (then RI State) in the national spot light, and he did it with many local students.

I'm not taking away what PC did in the 50s and 60s or their final fours in 73 or 87. They certainly did win more, but they won and got into the spotlight in the TV era, when families started to have TVs in their living room. You do have to wonder what would be different if URI's time in the national spotlight came 15-20 years later.

Kevin Stacom was from New York.

As I’ve said before on the forums, ProJo coverage of the 88 team was top notch. This was on the heels of a final 4 run by their home town team.

Of course it was truly a great story which helped I guess.

reef wrote:Jesse Newell is an absolute joke . Does he even watch college hoops ??

He bases his picks on Pomeroy and Sagarin. Looks like if you are not top 25 in either of those you are not making it on his ballot.

This may be off the rails, but has anyone heard the radio advertisement for the P-Bruins? At the end of the blurb there is a "Let's go Friars" chant. Maybe it's my 72 year old hearing, (or paranoia), but can anyone confirm this?

RAM67 wrote:This may be off the rails, but has anyone heard the radio advertisement for the P-Bruins? At the end of the blurb there is a "Let's go Friars" chant. Maybe it's my 72 year old hearing, (or paranoia), but can anyone confirm this?

Maybe it's their way of thanking Pee-C for stampeding the city into improving the Dunkin' Dump.

I think you're correct , Red.

Rhode_Island_Red wrote:

RAM67 wrote:This may be off the rails, but has anyone heard the radio advertisement for the P-Bruins? At the end of the blurb there is a "Let's go Friars" chant. Maybe it's my 72 year old hearing, (or paranoia), but can anyone confirm this?

Maybe it's their way of thanking Pee-C for stampeding the city into improving the Dunkin' Dump.

not just the city, the entire state had to pay for that glorified paint job they called a renovation.

So will we hold our 18 ranking ?? Will we pass anybody ?? Will anybody pass us ??

should move up to 17

Teams in front of us that lost:
#6 Texas Tech twice (doubt they fall behind us)
#12 Auburn (not sure if they will fall behind us either)
#16 Clemson (we should pass them)

and currently Arizona is tied with Oregon (I believe we would pass them if they lose)

Ducks beat Zona. Looks like we'll be back to 16. *maybe* 15 if Cinci loses to Tulsa tomorrow

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... ean-miller

I just think it's "interesting" that, in the above Arizona game write-up, teammate refers to Ayton as a high character guy, handling it like a professional...

Professionals DO get paid you know....

Will be interesting to see if voters hold any of this against Arizona in their polls to.

adam914 wrote:Will be interesting to see if voters hold any of this against Arizona in their polls to.

Here’s what I don’t get re: Ayton.

How is there enough evidence there to take Miller off the sidelines mid season but Ayton is still eligible?

Blue Man wrote:

adam914 wrote:Will be interesting to see if voters hold any of this against Arizona in their polls to.

Here’s what I don’t get re: Ayton.

How is there enough evidence there to take Miller off the sidelines mid season but Ayton is still eligible?

Right, thats part of this whole thing I dont understand either. I guess just because the direct evidence is against Miller? Maybe I haven't read up enough on it all, but I also don't know where the money is going. Is it just the school/coach/booster (or whoever associated with the program) paying money to an agent to steer a kid somewhere or is the kid or his family actually getting that money?

adam914 wrote:

Blue Man wrote:

adam914 wrote:Will be interesting to see if voters hold any of this against Arizona in their polls to.

Here’s what I don’t get re: Ayton.

How is there enough evidence there to take Miller off the sidelines mid season but Ayton is still eligible?

Right, thats part of this whole thing I dont understand either. I guess just because the direct evidence is against Miller? Maybe I haven't read up enough on it all, but I also don't know where the money is going. Is it just the school/coach/booster (or whoever associated with the program) paying money to an agent to steer a kid somewhere or is the kid or his family actually getting that money?

It has been reported that they have Miller recorded on a call with Dawkins saying that Dawkins should talk to Miller about the money.
There is no evidence that any money passed hands and that Ayton received any money or that he/his family even asked for money.
Ayton has been interviewed by the FBI something like 6 times and he is still clear.

Rhody83 wrote:

adam914 wrote:

Blue Man wrote:
Here’s what I don’t get re: Ayton.

How is there enough evidence there to take Miller off the sidelines mid season but Ayton is still eligible?

Right, thats part of this whole thing I dont understand either. I guess just because the direct evidence is against Miller? Maybe I haven't read up enough on it all, but I also don't know where the money is going. Is it just the school/coach/booster (or whoever associated with the program) paying money to an agent to steer a kid somewhere or is the kid or his family actually getting that money?

It has been reported that they have Miller recorded on a call with Dawkins saying that Dawkins should talk to Miller about the money.
There is no evidence that any money passed hands and that Ayton received any money or that he/his family even asked for money.
Ayton has been interviewed by the FBI something like 6 times and he is still clear.

Yeah, that was my understanding as well. That Miller had offered the $100k on a wiretap, which if you're a coach, is pretty much a fireable offense whether the kid takes it or not. However, I don't think the FBI / other investigators has any proof that $100k ended up with Ayton, or with someone connected to him.

Sounds like the Auyton camp is vehemently denying that they took any money ???

Seth Davis has us 14

I love Seth Davis’ Twitter responses to people criticizing his picks.

Blue Man wrote:

adam914 wrote:Will be interesting to see if voters hold any of this against Arizona in their polls to.

Here’s what I don’t get re: Ayton.

How is there enough evidence there to take Miller off the sidelines mid season but Ayton is still eligible?

Great point

If the player didn't take any money, there is no wrongdoing. A coach offering One Hundred Thousand Dollars to a recruit is a fireable offense.

twisted3829 wrote:Seth Davis has us 14

He had us at #16 last week after we lost to St. Bonaventure, and at #14 two weeks ago. So we got those two spots back on his ballot. I think we'll move up one spot in the AP Top 25.

But it seems that this team's got bigger dreams than where they are right now, and lots more baaketball games to play to make their dreams a reality for all of us.

Go Rhody!

Ayton's response was quite the thing to watch! He blew the doors off in the first half against Oregon.

Was so late I didn't see any of the rest, but then Arizona lost! With him absolutely dominating.

I also think it is interesting that Trier is out with another steroids thing. What is going on out there!

full expect to be back at 16 this week

Rothstein has us at 14:

https://www.fanragsports.com/cbb/fanrag ... 6-edition/:

14. Rhode Island

The Skinny: Dan Hurley has made the Rams the flagship program in the Atlantic 10.

Dayton and VCU won't like to hear that. But if Dayton and VCU return to that status with URI joining them for a nice 3 headed monster for years to come, that will allow the A10 to continue to be at least a 3-4 bid conference each year.

Yeah I think 16 as well. Maybe 15 if enough writers saw the second half friday.