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One and not done

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:27 pm
by reef
Just wondering if anybody watched the 30 for 30 on Coach Calipari

I thought it was really good as all 30 for 30s usually are

Re: One and not done

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:36 am
by Rhodymob05
Those are good, haven't seen this one, but not a fan of the one and dones or Calipari.

Re: One and not done

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:50 am
by rambone 78
Calipari is a good bench coach and obviously can recruit, but he doesn't give 2 shits about academics and his players' welfare off the court......no matter what he might say about it.

Re: One and not done

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:42 pm
by Billyboy78
Can't stand Calipari.....sorry.

Re: One and not done

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:57 pm
by reef
I am not a fan of him either but the documentary was excellent

Re: One and not done

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:13 pm
by PeterRamTime
Yeah was another good 30 for 30.

You either respect him or not.

I like him.
He comes off a sleazy, but he makes genuine connections with his players.
That was evident in the documentary.
So I respect him for that.

Re: One and not done

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 8:18 am
by RF1
Calipari is cut from the same cloth as Pitino. They may win a lot of games on the court but they are both sleazy. The best analogy for them is a high grossing used car salesman.

Re: One and not done

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:21 am
by 860_rhody
RF1 wrote:Calipari is cut from the same cloth as Pitino. They may win a lot of games on the court but they are both sleazy. The best analogy for them is a high grossing used car salesman.
I wouldn't say that. Kentucky and Louisville are certainly not comparable to used cars. Cal is a serial cheater, and Pitino is to a lesser extent, but it doesn't seem like it would be that difficult to sell Kentucky and Louisville.

Re: One and not done

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:26 am
by rodfromcranston
Nobody has ever pinned anything on Calipari.
He's not like some coaches who got caught and were
sanctioned by the NCAA.
He's a great coach and great recruiter.
He makes no bones about using the NBA's one and done
rule, to his advantage.
He took UMass to a Final Four and Memphis to a final game.
Not exactly world beater programs.
To retool an entire team every year, and still get people to buy
into sharing the load, is amazing.
All those players who showed up on stage at the
Hall of Fame ceremony, are a testament to how
they feel about him, as a coach and as a person.

Re: One and not done

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:35 am
by adam914
I used to hate Calipari, but lately have changed my tune on him. Like Rod said, he just uses the system to his advantage. I also love how vocal he has been against the NCAA at times recently.

Re: One and not done

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:13 pm
by Rhody83
rodfromcranston wrote:Nobody has ever pinned anything on Calipari.
He's not like some coaches who got caught and were
sanctioned by the NCAA.
He's a great coach and great recruiter.
He makes no bones about using the NBA's one and done
rule, to his advantage.
He took UMass to a Final Four and Memphis to a final game.
Not exactly world beater programs.
To retool an entire team every year, and still get people to buy
into sharing the load, is amazing.
All those players who showed up on stage at the
Hall of Fame ceremony, are a testament to how
they feel about him, as a coach and as a person.
Totally agree with Rod. I live in WMass. Cal had nothing to do with Camby taking money his last year from a guy in Hartford that wanted to be his agent. He took over when UMass had zero D1 wins the year before. He turned it around quickly even with some of the inherited players contributing.

Ask Thorr about Cal. He was at UMass then. Thorr is a big supporter of Cal.

One and done was caused by the NBA changing its rule. The NBA changed the rule because they were concerned more players woukd start entering the NBA directly from high school/prep school.

The reason Cal has more one and dones is because he gets more of the top players and more of the players who want to go pro asap. They have seen the success Kentucky players have had being selected in the first round and that attracts them to Kentucky. No one should be prevented from going pro - it is their livelihood. No one criticizes Coach K for Duke's one and done. The NBA teams are to blame for the increase in early college exits. Look at the first round of the draftvevery year and compare the number of underclassmen to seniors. In 2016's first round - 5 Seniors and 17 underclassmen (10 Fr). Two Fr from Kentucky.

Re: One and not done

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:22 pm
by Hal Kopp
Love Calipari.
Almost every great coach @ Rhody had off court controversy around them at some point-Kraft,Penders,Skinner and Harrick?
Did they not?

Re: One and not done

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:37 pm
by NYGFan_Section208
I used to dislike Cal...but in the last couple years, he seems to just be enjoying the ride, calling it what it is and I actually like him for that. Thinking there are not many that wouldn't want their kid to play for him. Thought the 30 for 30 was very well done...and all those players that showed up for his HOF induction...I think that really says a lot. Does that mean I want UK to win? No, hardly ever, but nothing against Coach Cal....

Re: One and not done

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:58 pm
by reef
Yes that was very telling that all the players showed up at HOF for him

Great footage also of a young Cal coaching at the Howie Garfinlle 5 star camp and his rise at UMass along with the feud with Cheney