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Berry?

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:41 am
by Hal Kopp
What is Hurleys deal with never playing Berry?
Anyone know??

Re: Berry?

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:46 am
by rodfromcranston
I guess unless you're Dikembe Mutombo on defense, you don;t see the floor.
No Berry, no Laysard.
Who needs bigs who can score, when you can play four guards,
two who can't hit the ocean with a beach ball?
You can use defense as a default excuse all you want.
If these players are THAT deficient, then
WHY WERE THEY RECRUITED?

Re: Berry?

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:31 pm
by ramfan85
Zen question: If you have "quality depth," and never use it, do you really have quality depth?

Maybe if Berry hunches over and tells Dan that now he is a guard, he may get in a game.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:37 pm
by RoadyJay
ramfan85 wrote: Maybe if Berry hunches over and tells Dan that now he is a guard, he may get in a game.
This made me :lol:

Re: Berry?

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:46 pm
by steveystuds06
Makes no sense that we have a solid offensive big on the bench that literally never plays.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:05 pm
by section(105)
......seems like Berry's seat on the bench is so far away from the coach, he would have to text/tweet that info....

Re: Berry?

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:40 pm
by adam914
This continues a long held tradition of assuming that anyone who doesn't play, transfers or chooses another school would be the savior. According to this board, a team of Berry, Reischel, Gustys, and Butler would win the national championship.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:55 pm
by NYGFan_Section208
adam914 wrote:This continues a long held tradition of assuming that anyone who doesn't play, transfers or chooses another school would be the savior. According to this board, a team of Berry, Reischel, Gustys, and Butler would win the national championship.
Exactly...well, 'cept you'd need one more guy ;)

Re: Berry?

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:00 pm
by rhodyrudder
Can't you play with 4?

Re: Berry?

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:04 pm
by RoadyJay
NYGFan_Section208 wrote:
adam914 wrote:This continues a long held tradition of assuming that anyone who doesn't play, transfers or chooses another school would be the savior. According to this board, a team of Berry, Reischel, Gustys, and Butler would win the national championship.
Exactly...well, 'cept you'd need one more guy ;)
That's easy. Jordan Hare

Re: Berry?

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:04 pm
by adam914
Nope, those guys are so damn good they would win it all with 4. They would play nothing but zone, of course.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:13 pm
by ramster
But what about Free Throw shooting?

Re: Berry?

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:32 pm
by NYGFan_Section208
adam914 wrote:Nope, those guys are so damn good they would win it all with 4. They would play nothing but zone, of course.
Good point. And who cares about FT's when you're winning every game by 20+?

Re: Berry?

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:12 pm
by Seawrightspostgame
adam914 wrote:This continues a long held tradition of assuming that anyone who doesn't play, transfers or chooses another school would be the savior. According to this board, a team of Berry, Reischel, Gustys, and Butler would win the national championship.
Berry hasn't played a bad game. Think about that. With a coach reluctant to play him and a team falling apart around him he played great last year. Each opportunity.

What does Berry do for an encore? lose like 50 pounds. No respect to not play Berry. At this point I'm not sure it matters what Dan wants to do because its been unsuccessful for 5 years. Dan has to shift some things. He has to coach from the jump to win the game. He doesn't do that. Not in my opinion. I think he sees certain points in the game and just rolls out his plan he made before the game. He doesn't react to what the other team or what his team is doing very well at all. Not in the moment.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:25 pm
by steveystuds06
adam914 wrote:This continues a long held tradition of assuming that anyone who doesn't play, transfers or chooses another school would be the savior. According to this board, a team of Berry, Reischel, Gustys, and Butler would win the national championship.
When we look absolutely lost on offense why not try to put in a guy who has shown he can score. Hurley said it after the game "we need to make more baskets". When given the chance Berry does. He doesn't miss wide open layups like I've seen this season. I'm not asking for him to get a ton of minutes, but 0 makes no sense. We need to do something different.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:35 pm
by rambone 78
We need to make more baskets? DH gets the obvious award for the week......Holy hand grenade Batman.......

I remember a certain coach of ours who made basically the same comment..."We gotta put the bawl in the bucket"...or something like that....

Re: Berry?

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:23 pm
by The Dude
The bigger the Berry, the sweeter the juice.
I said this last year and I'm saying it again.
I hereby dub Berry "The Juice"...free "The Juice"....SET "THE JUICE" LOOSE!!!!

Re: Berry?

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:28 pm
by RoadyJay
The Dude wrote:The bigger the Berry, the sweeter the juice.
I said this last year and I'm saying it again.
I hereby dub Berry "The Juice"...free "The Juice"....SET "THE JUICE" LOOSE!!!!
Could be sign material right there.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:39 pm
by rambone 78
Berry can't be any worse than Iverson on defense......what the hell?

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:40 am
by The Dude
Do it. Do it.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:07 am
by reef
Yes get Berry some minutes the kid can contribute on offense

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:42 am
by Hal Kopp
Heard DH does not like Berry because played HS ball in RI?
DH has low opinion of RI HS hoops?

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:46 am
by ATPTourFan
wtf

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:51 am
by Hal Kopp
ATP-the 84-85 FB championship teams-1/3rd were from RI.
Question is how many played at one time?
( I believe the bias)

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:32 am
by Billyboy78
Hal Kopp wrote:Heard DH does not like Berry because played HS ball in RI?
DH has low opinion of RI HS hoops?
Might explain why we didn't have anyone watching Swider yesterday in the prep tourney right here in RI. All those other schools must be wrong, including Cooley and PC.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:44 am
by rambone 78
We need more GOOD big men, and soon.......or else we'll be playing 4 guards all the time next season.......

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:01 am
by adam914
WE NEED MORE CONSPIRACY THEORIES!!!!!

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:30 am
by Rhody15
Hal Kopp wrote:Heard DH does not like Berry because played HS ball in RI?
DH has low opinion of RI HS hoops?
There's about a 99.999% that is not true.

Make's no sense, and it's not like Berry played in the RIIL. He played in one of the best prep conferences in the country.

Plus, ya know, Berry actually has shown to put the ball in the hoop, something we need.

Doesn't matter if Berry played HS basketball on the moon, if he can play, he can play.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:37 am
by Hal Kopp
For 84-85 FB the answer is two at home,one on the road and three when you are behind!!

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:38 am
by ramster
Then why did Hurley offer him a scholarship in the first place? Wouldn't it have made sense of DH did not like RI players that he would never offer? Why would he let a RI kid that he was not going to play because he was from RI take up a Scholarship?

Many of these questions should be collected and then asked at the next DH gathering. We could nominate one person to represent the KB Board.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:44 am
by Hal Kopp
Getting a schollie and not playing 2 different things.
Nobody went to RI prep tourney from staff per B Boy?
Not surprised.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:51 am
by Billyboy78
adam914 wrote:WE NEED MORE CONSPIRACY THEORIES!!!!!
Can you explain why we had zero representation at a prep tourney involving some of the top players in New England at a location (Barrington) about 45 minutes from Kingston? PC thought enough of the talent to have 3 coaches there, including Cooley. Unless kids like Swider and Duke (RI kids) have already told Dan they have no interest in URI, I see no reason why they shouldn't be there.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:52 am
by Rhody15
Berry isn't a Rhode Island kid.

He's from NY, prepped in RI, did not play against RI teams, and then went to JC across the country.

Calling Berry a Rhode Island kid is like calling Jared Terrell a New Hampshire kid.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:14 pm
by adam914
Billyboy78 wrote:
adam914 wrote:WE NEED MORE CONSPIRACY THEORIES!!!!!
Can you explain why we had zero representation at a prep tourney involving some of the top players in New England at a location (Barrington) about 45 minutes from Kingston? PC thought enough of the talent to have 3 coaches there, including Cooley. Unless kids like Swider and Duke (RI kids) have already told Dan they have no interest in URI, I see no reason why they shouldn't be there.
I can't, I do not decide where the coaches spend their time.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:18 pm
by rambone 78
Billyboy, that might be the case.......or maybe Dan has switched the recruiting emphasis to bigs......we need warm bodies to play the frontcourt.....and maybe one or two of the new guys aren't the answer already?

It's beginning to look more and more likely that we could pick up a transfer or 5th year big with experience.....needed badly

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:21 pm
by 15 Year Lurker
You guys are really losing it if you actually gave for a second the "hurley doesn't play him because he played hs basketball in RI" line any consideration...and then added 10 posts to it.

Meltdown and misinformation is what message board land is best at.

We've lost two games by like 5 points and then lost to Duke...not sure what everyone expected...maybe I just don't buy into all the hype. I guess people just buy into the hype and think these are Jim Harrick level players..which they aren't.

But yea I want him to play too.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:23 pm
by adam914
So since we have no direct explanation on why they weren't there, you guys are choosing to just go with the "he hates RI kids" reason?

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:23 pm
by ramster
Rhody15 wrote:Berry isn't a Rhode Island kid.

He's from NY, prepped in RI, did not play against RI teams, and then went to JC across the country.

Calling Berry a Rhode Island kid is like calling Jared Terrell a New Hampshire kid.
Well then that certainly throws out the hearsay quoted earlier in this thread that Hurley is not playing him because he is a RI kid huh?

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:27 pm
by rambone 78
15 year lurker, we have 2 that are playing Harrick level.....the 12 and 32.......the rest are somewhere south of that....

But crap, PLAY SR and Cyril and Akele and CT..........give them a chance, they are playing better than the other starters....even JG needs to play better

imo this RI kid discussion is ridiculous......

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:28 pm
by adam914
Guys, just got a hot scoop. I found out why Hurley plays Iverson so much even though he hasn't been playing very well. You see Iverson is from Hartford, and there was this one time where Hurley was driving through Hartford and his favorite song came on the radio. He has very fond memories of rocking out the whole way through the city. So he has become very fond of thinking about Hartford and by playing Iverson all the time it allows him to think back to that night.

We have no other explanation as to why he plays Iverson so much, therefore this now must be treated as fact.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:30 pm
by ramster
rambone 78 wrote:15 year lurker, we have 2 that are playing Harrick level.....the 12 and 32.......the rest are somewhere south of that....

But crap, PLAY SR and Cyril and Akele and CT..........give them a chance, they are playing better than the other starters....even JG needs to play better





imo this RI kid discussion is ridiculous......
:o :o :o
We agree on something!!!!!!!

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:51 pm
by Billyboy78
I'm not saying Dan hates RI kids. Somebody else said that. I'm just wondering why we didn't have anyone in Barrington yesterday. A recruiting trip that would cost a half a tank of gas and maybe lunch seems like a good investment. PC certainly thought so.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:00 pm
by rambone 78
Does seem strange...maybe Dan now realizes that he and his staff need to address this building dumpster fire.....spend as much time as possible trying to fix this.....

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:01 pm
by ramfan85
adam914 wrote:Guys, just got a hot scoop. I found out why Hurley plays Iverson so much even though he hasn't been playing very well. You see Iverson is from Hartford, and there was this one time where Hurley was driving through Hartford and his favorite song came on the radio. He has very fond memories of rocking out the whole way through the city. So he has become very fond of thinking about Hartford and by playing Iverson all the time it allows him to think back to that night.

We have no other explanation as to why he plays Iverson so much, therefore this now must be treated as fact.

No song in the world is ever going to make me feel good about driving on route 84 through Hartford. Lol

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:05 pm
by adam914
ramfan85 wrote:
adam914 wrote:Guys, just got a hot scoop. I found out why Hurley plays Iverson so much even though he hasn't been playing very well. You see Iverson is from Hartford, and there was this one time where Hurley was driving through Hartford and his favorite song came on the radio. He has very fond memories of rocking out the whole way through the city. So he has become very fond of thinking about Hartford and by playing Iverson all the time it allows him to think back to that night.

We have no other explanation as to why he plays Iverson so much, therefore this now must be treated as fact.

No song in the world is ever going to make me feel good about driving on route 84 through Hartford. Lol
Haha, fair point. Born and raised in the New Haven area here, so I have no love for Hartford myself!

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:06 pm
by adam914
Billyboy78 wrote:I'm not saying Dan hates RI kids. Somebody else said that. I'm just wondering why we didn't have anyone in Barrington yesterday. A recruiting trip that would cost a half a tank of gas and maybe lunch seems like a good investment. PC certainly thought so.
You responded to the post about it by saying "Might explain why we didn't have anyone watching Swider yesterday". That to me sure sounds like you are at least considering the theory that he hates RI kids.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:15 pm
by Billyboy78
adam914 wrote:
Billyboy78 wrote:I'm not saying Dan hates RI kids. Somebody else said that. I'm just wondering why we didn't have anyone in Barrington yesterday. A recruiting trip that would cost a half a tank of gas and maybe lunch seems like a good investment. PC certainly thought so.
You responded to the post about it by saying "Might explain why we didn't have anyone watching Swider yesterday". That to me sure sounds like you are at least considering the theory that he hates RI kids.
Nope, not what I was inferring. And I don't think it's unreasonable to question why we had no representation at a local tourney in which several of our supposed recruits are playing. I'm one of the few who still hopes Dan is here for a long time. That doesn't mean I can't question some of his or the staff's decisions.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:19 pm
by adam914
Billyboy78 wrote:
adam914 wrote:
Billyboy78 wrote:I'm not saying Dan hates RI kids. Somebody else said that. I'm just wondering why we didn't have anyone in Barrington yesterday. A recruiting trip that would cost a half a tank of gas and maybe lunch seems like a good investment. PC certainly thought so.
You responded to the post about it by saying "Might explain why we didn't have anyone watching Swider yesterday". That to me sure sounds like you are at least considering the theory that he hates RI kids.
Nope, not what I was inferring. And I don't think it's unreasonable to question why we had no representation at a local tourney in which several of our supposed recruits are playing. I'm one of the few who still hopes Dan is here for a long time. That doesn't mean I can't question some of his or the staff's decisions.
I never said you can't question any of those things. But to now say that you weren't inferring that when you said "it might explain..." is just straight up changing your story. I'm not sure how saying "it might explain..." can mean anything other than "there may be some truth to that". At least you realize now how ridiculous it is.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:21 pm
by adam914
Billyboy78 wrote:
adam914 wrote:
You responded to the post about it by saying "Might explain why we didn't have anyone watching Swider yesterday". That to me sure sounds like you are at least considering the theory that he hates RI kids.
Nope, not what I was inferring. And I don't think it's unreasonable to question why we had no representation at a local tourney in which several of our supposed recruits are playing. I'm one of the few who still hopes Dan is here for a long time. That doesn't mean I can't question some of his or the staff's decisions.
I never said you can't question any of those things. Let's not change the subject completely just to try and make it seem like I am saying its wrong to criticize the coach. But to now say that you weren't inferring that when you said "it might explain..." is just straight up changing your story. I'm not sure how saying "it might explain..." can mean anything other than "there may be some truth to that". At least you realize now how ridiculous it is.

Re: Berry?

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:24 pm
by Billyboy78
adam914 wrote:
Billyboy78 wrote:
adam914 wrote:
You responded to the post about it by saying "Might explain why we didn't have anyone watching Swider yesterday". That to me sure sounds like you are at least considering the theory that he hates RI kids.
Nope, not what I was inferring. And I don't think it's unreasonable to question why we had no representation at a local tourney in which several of our supposed recruits are playing. I'm one of the few who still hopes Dan is here for a long time. That doesn't mean I can't question some of his or the staff's decisions.
I never said you can't question any of those things. But to now say that you weren't inferring that when you said "it might explain..." is just straight up changing your story. I'm not sure how saying "it might explain..." can mean anything other than "there may be some truth to that". At least you realize now how ridiculous it is.
I was just jumping at the opportunity to bring up my point, as ridiculous as the statement I posted on was. Obviously if there's a quality prospect in RI, Dan is going to recruit him and play him.