NY Giants

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 4 years ago

What a game. Skins just tied it. 35-35.
Battle of the 3-11 teams

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

Giants lose by winning.

Great game though.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

Don't be surprised if the Giants beat the Eagles next Sunday, and knock them back out of the playoffs.

They should have beaten them a few weeks ago, but their defense did their usual disappearing act late, like they did yesterday.

The only way they won this game was getting the coin toss and the ball to start OT.

If Jerry doesn't fire Garrett now he's really lost his mind. Never saw a team with so much talent choke like they have.

If they had Belicheck they would be in the Super Bowl...of course Bill wouldn't coach any team that has an owner that thinks he knows football and sticks his nose where it doesn't belong.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 4 years ago

Agree no head coach wants to coach for Dallas and have Jerry breathing down your neck

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

Urban Meyer has interest, but he wants to run all facets of the football operation.

Good luck with Mr. Jones as your owner.

I'm guessing that Shurmur will keep his job along with Gettleman for one more year.

I don't know if that's a good thing or not.

Need o and d linemen and linebackers badly. The secondary is very young and will improve.

Could also use another wide receiver. So many holes to fill.

4 wins against bad teams......even a win against the 8-7 Eagles Sunday with all their injuries won't mean much.

That would hurt their draft position even more, and also would mean the hated Cowboys would win the division.

A lose-lose proposition. Such as it is with the Giants these days.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 4 years ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑4 years ago Urban Meyer has interest, but he wants to run all facets of the football operation.

Good luck with Mr. Jones as your owner.

I'm guessing that Shurmur will keep his job along with Gettleman for one more year.

I don't know if that's a good thing or not.

Need o and d linemen and linebackers badly. The secondary is very young and will improve.

Could also use another wide receiver. So many holes to fill.

4 wins against bad teams......even a win against the 8-7 Eagles Sunday with all their injuries won't mean much.

That would hurt their draft position even more, and also would mean the hated Cowboys would win the division.

A lose-lose proposition. Such as it is with the Giants these days.

When I first saw "...Meyer has interest..", I thought you were talking about the Giants and started laughing out loud....

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 4 years ago

I think Urban will be a decent NFL head coach

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

Shurmur and Gettleman watch is on, as of Monday.

Does one go, or both?

I think Gettleman has a better chance of being shown the door.

Has made way too many mistakes with personnel which has cost the Giants both in performance and cap money.

The Beckham and Collins screwups were killers.

His one hit [Jones] isn't enough to offset all the other gaffes.

Getting Barkley doesn't count. That was an all time no brainer.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 4 years ago

DJ with the nice 4th quarter reverse red zone fumble that leads to a TD. Sweet.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

Heard today that Shurmur and Gettlemen are done.

Tomorrow will be a bloody day in the NFL.

Damn it, make good choices to replace them for once!

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 4 years ago

Probably a good move to get rid of them both I don’t think Shurmur is head coach material think he is a good coordinator

Not sure on Gettleman u guys would know better than me

Who will be on the Giants short list for head coach ??

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

Shurmur is gone.

What about Gettleman?

He's the one largely responsible for several personnel mistakes and the overall lack of talent on this team.

If he stays....no bueno

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 4 years ago

Gettlemen is staying

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

He's been put on notice though.

Either draft or sign guys or make deals that turn out to be good, not busts.

Imo they should have just canned him and start over...again.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 4 years ago

So, who will they sign to coach? I think McDaniels, Rivera, and McCarthy would all be decent choices, which means you can probably rule them out.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

Rhule from Baylor is the top choice so I've heard.

Don't know much about him.

College coaches are a dicey choice. He was an assistant with the Giants 7 years ago.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 4 years ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑4 years ago Rhule from Baylor is the top choice so I've heard.

Don't know much about him.

College coaches are a dicey choice. He was an assistant with the Giants 7 years ago.

Why take guys like McDaniel, McCarthy or Rivera...who've had success in the league...when you can grab a NOHEHO? It's the Jints Way. Hey, new thread? "THE JINTS WAY"?

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

They should call it "NO WAY". lol

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 4 years ago

Riverboat Ronnie Rivera will be Skins coach

I think McDsniels gets a job not sure which one though, may not be a bad hire

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

McDaniels flopped in Oakland as their coach.

Another OC like Shurmur is NOT what the Giants need.

More of a defensive minded coach would be better.

McDaniels imo might not leave NE until Brady does.

Unread post by **SGreenwell** » 4 years ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑4 years ago McDaniels flopped in Oakland as their coach.

Another OC like Shurmur is NOT what the Giants need.

More of a defensive minded coach would be better.

McDaniels imo might not leave NE until Brady does.

McDaniels coached Denver, and that was nine years ago, when he was a pretty young dude. I think he's an attractive head coaching candidate, but 1) he severely burned the Colts a year or two ago, reneging on a deal to be their coach and 2) he seems to be the "heir apparent" in New England if Belichick ever leaves, and that status means he probably doesn't have to take a shitty job.

The Giants job wouldn't be that appealing to me, because Gettleman wasn't fired, and it's unclear if they have the QB of the Future in Jones. If management is convinced he's still the guy, and he isn't, you're probably not going to get much of a mulligan for year one or year two if Jones fails.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

Oops, right division, wrong team.

I don't know what the Giants are thinking keeping Gettleman.

Could definitely affect who they hire as coach. The GM has already made a ton of blunders personnel wise.

How much input does he have with the coaching search? Usually the GM has a big say because he has to work with him...a lot.

Another screw up here and it will be another few years before the Giants can be good again.

They waited too long to can Reese. Same thing again?

The natives are restless big time. And they aren't happy keeping Gettleman.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 4 years ago

McDaniels definitely deserves a second chance it’s been awhile since he was a head coach and Belichick didn’t exactly light the world on fire as the Browns head coach and we know how he turned out

Someone reported that Belichick probably wants to break the wins record so that means the Pats job probably isn’t open for another 4-5 years so doubt McDaniels wants to wait that long ???

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

Belicheck's record at Cleveland was so so at best...but it's Cleveland.

How much input did he have with personnel decisions?

Goes to show that you can't win with a suspect organization...and the Browns have been very bad in that area for a long long time.

And it looks like they still are lol.

Does anybody think it's strange that Jerry hasn't fired Garrett yet?

How many meetings will it take?

My guess is, they are evaluating their assistants/organization and possibly trying to save Garrett's job?

Jerry is quite close to him....of course that hasn't helped them be very good either.

As for the Giants and Gettleman, keeping him is a mistake imo.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 4 years ago

Yes bone that seems very odd about the Garrett situation

If he gets fired will he be a candidate for another job this year ??

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

I think so...as long as it's not the Giants' job lol.

If Garrett can't win with the Cowboys' talent, imagine what would happen with the Giants'.

Oof.

My thinking now is McCarthy gets the Giants' HC position if Rhule stays at Baylor.

That would be an OK hire imo.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 4 years ago

Yeah McCarthy may be a decent hire has lots of experience won a Super Bowl

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 4 years ago

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo......!!!

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jaso ... ead-coach/

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

208, I was totally against hiring Garrett for the Giants....now I'm not so sure.

How much of Garrett's issues were due to the Jerry factor?

Did he have one hand tied behind his back due to that?

Also many of his assistants were ex Cowboys....

Most NFL insiders had much praise for Garrett's coaching.....but it was never going to work out in Dallas.

Of course the Giants don't need a "safe" hire again, if that's what he is.....

Whoever the new coach is, he needs a home run hire as DC. The one they just let go was horrendous.

Unread post by **SGreenwell** » 4 years ago

rambone 78 wrote: ↑4 years ago 208, I was totally against hiring Garrett for the Giants....now I'm not so sure.

How much of Garrett's issues were due to the Jerry factor?

Did he have one hand tied behind his back due to that?

Also many of his assistants were ex Cowboys....

Most NFL insiders had much praise for Garrett's coaching.....but it was never going to work out in Dallas.

Of course the Giants don't need a "safe" hire again, if that's what he is.....

Whoever the new coach is, he needs a home run hire as DC. The one they just let go was horrendous.

Say what? Garrett's coaching and play calling were pretty bad. Like, their offense had Prescott, Elliott, Cooper and good backups at RB, and they struggled to score the past two years at various points. If anything, I think Jones and the front office has done pretty well as a talent evaluator the past couple years. Their drafts have been decent the past couple years, vs. when Jones first insisted on doing the picks.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 4 years ago

SGreenwell wrote: ↑4 years ago
rambone 78 wrote: ↑4 years ago 208, I was totally against hiring Garrett for the Giants....now I'm not so sure.

How much of Garrett's issues were due to the Jerry factor?

Did he have one hand tied behind his back due to that?

Also many of his assistants were ex Cowboys....

Most NFL insiders had much praise for Garrett's coaching.....but it was never going to work out in Dallas.

Of course the Giants don't need a "safe" hire again, if that's what he is.....

Whoever the new coach is, he needs a home run hire as DC. The one they just let go was horrendous.
Say what? Garrett's coaching and play calling were pretty bad. Like, their offense had Prescott, Elliott, Cooper and good backups at RB, and they struggled to score the past two years at various points. If anything, I think Jones and the front office has done pretty well as a talent evaluator the past couple years. Their drafts have been decent the past couple years, vs. when Jones first insisted on doing the picks.

Yeah, my brother's a hard core Cowboys fan and he thinks Garrett is horrible. As mentioned previously, her refers to him as male cheerleader and I think of him as elf-on-a-shelf, without the cool hat... Hate to say it though, but even he would be an upgrade over what just left. Just seems like they should be able to do better...

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 4 years ago

Welcome to Dallas former SB winning coach Mike McCarthy

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 4 years ago

Joe Judge?!?!? The guy that created Beavis and Butthead???

Seriously...I watch less and less f'ball every year because the Gmen stink. Yes, I'm a fair weather fan, but I know a lot of people like me doing the same thing (in my house even). The league needs to take over the franchise, if for no other reason than to stop the hemorrhaging of fans. Good bleeping grief...

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

Jumpin' Joe Judge. Now there's 2 Judges in NY.

Also Jason Garrett could be the OC.

I've had some weird dreams lately.

This is reality. Even weirder.

Well at least I didn't want Garrett as HC, nor McDaniels.

I'll give this guy a shot...otherwise I could always become a Jets fan...…

How much of this was Gettleman's call? If it was his call, omg.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 4 years ago

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 4 years ago

TruePoint wrote: ↑4 years agoLol

Right?!

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

Someone asked me lately what the Giants' needs were for next season.

I told him not much....just a new GM, a new coaching staff, and about 20 new players.

No problem, right?

Unread post by **SGreenwell** » 4 years ago

The Patriots WRs the past few years have been regarded as awful, which makes the hiring decision even more confusing. The Giants somehow landed on one of the few choices that their fan base would like less than Jason Garrett.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 4 years ago

SGreenwell wrote: ↑4 years ago The Patriots WRs the past few years have been regarded as awful, which makes the hiring decision even more confusing. The Giants somehow landed on one of the few choices that their fan base would like less than Jason Garrett.

bingo...one of my first thoughts was I'd rather have elf-on-a-shelf aka the clapper... and I DID NOT want him....

The league needs to take control of the franchise....for the sake of the league...

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 4 years ago

I think the Giants wanted Rhule but wouldn’t match the 7 year 60 M contract that Caro gave him

Give Judge a chance both Harbaugh and BB were special teams coordinators and they turned out well

Also saw BB knew JJ was head coach material

UCH21377 · Unread post by **UCH21377** » 4 years ago

Poor judgement on the part of the Gints

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

I'm going to give the new guy 2 years to either start a big turnaround or another house cleaning with Gettleman gone too.

I hope it doesn't come to that, but what can you do?

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 4 years ago

Didn’t realize a Judge is only 38 years old very young

He coached 2 years under Saban and years under BB so he had good tutors

May not be a bad hire I guess time will tell

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

Watched Rhule's intro as the Panthers' HC...…

Extremely impressed. He will be a good one.

The Giants should have waited to interview him before they decided to hire Judge. One more day!

It's not like anybody else was about to hire him [Judge].

Could be another in a long line of fuckups.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 4 years ago

Rhule got 60 M over 7 years and all coaches are doing cartwheels over that as salaries are going up

I heard about that presser sounded like a halftime speech pep talk

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 4 years ago

I was impressed with Judge's presser.

Hopefully he can work with Gettleman to bring in talent.

Not sure how confident I am about it though.

49ers are Supe bound. Their defense is back big time.

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 4 years ago

Yes 49ers look real tough well balanced team

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 3 years ago

r'uh r'oh...don't look now, but....

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 3 years ago

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 3 years ago

ramster wrote: ↑3 years ago

Hellllooooooo post season!

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