Potential Future Head Coaches at URI Thread

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 8 years ago

This is likely a moot conversation, but fun to watch nonetheless.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 8 years ago

No, Preston's love for URI is set in stone.
Everyone I've ever spoken to at URI, with one exception,
feels the same about him.
Nobody has reached out to him, because we still
have a coach, until further notice.
Preston is aware of what's been rumored,
and is monitoring the situation, as all of us are.

skwalk47 · Unread post by **skwalk47** » 8 years ago

John Becker.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 8 years ago

One more question about Preston. If he becomes coach here someday and has great success, what does he do when the P5s come calling? Does his love of URI keep him here? Obviously, this is way way down the road, if it even ever happens. I'd just like to keep a successful coach here for a while for a change.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 8 years ago

Well, he bolted to BC for more money so there's that...you will be hard pressed to find a coach that will see URI as a destination job, and that's ok.
Its part of the profession, and the reality....Cooley is a unique situation, even moreso than Preston bc he grew up steps from Providence. Preston obviously has a love for URI and the area, but you can never say never....
Just hire the best guy for the job and then if need be, do it again and again. Has worked for many programs who have strung success out in spite of losing coaches.
You dont hire someone b/c you think he is a lifer.

And again, I believe this is all wasted breath right now.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 8 years ago

Many moons ago when we went through Penders, Skinner, Harrick, etc the same subject used to come up about Coaches coming in and moving on and why don't we get a Coach that will stay. I remember like it was yesterday those comments being made.
So here we go again.
I cringe to think that this was part of the reason for going for CFL. Here was a veteran Coach who could handle the job here and might just be around for a long time to come...................and guess what happened.

The shame of it was we got the Ryan Center thanks in large part to Jim Harrick, and others of course, but then Jim B comes along and really never fully leveraged the quality of the brand new Ryan Center or the success that we had with the Jim Harrick years.

So be careful what to ask for. The good news is that since that time I think URI has learned some lessons - that is the benefit of history so you do not make the same mistakes as in the past - learn from the past.

Good news is the A10 is a strong conference today, battling with the BE for the best non P5 Basketball Conference out there. Problem is that the A10 becomes a breeding ground for P5 Coaches. Not a bad thing but it tends close to reality.

So the A10 is great for attracting up and coming, high potential coaches, it is also great at developing them, giving them exposure and then passing them on to higher level, big money programs.

Hurley will move on, then let's go for another up and coming, high potential coach. Grabbing a 10-12 year guy is not at the top of my list.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 8 years ago

I think what happened with the CFL hire was,
Muskrat and Petro took the safe way out.
The Harrick-Lamar years were too much of a high wire act
for them.
They went with warmed over mashed potatoes instead.
The "safe" guy without any known baggage, who'd
never rock the boat.
URI, Dooley and Thorr, have no such concerns now.
I don't see them bringing in a Gary Waters type,
who's been around forever and has a sporadic career.
This applies not only to now, but whenever Dan leaves.

Ramblinrose · Unread post by **Ramblinrose** » 8 years ago

URI is a stepping stone job. There will be no John Chaney here. URI can't compete with bigger salaries.
Have to maximize its coaches' time. The pressure is on to make a good hire every time out.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 8 years ago

Its not a destination, its not a stepping stone...its somewhere in the middle.
Dan is due to be paid $1MM next season, I am sure in terms of the A10 that is near top of the food chain.
Remember when Penders left 50K for 10 times his salary at Texas....in those days we were a stepping stone job.
Now our coach is contemplating doubling his salary which is more about the difference between Big 10 and A 10 than anything else.
Within our league the resources we are putting against basketball are much closer to the upper echelon than the bottom.

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 8 years ago

Every job is a stepping stone job save for about 5-10. There is always more money, more perks, better tradition, etc.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

All I want to see is Dan [if he stays] succeed big time. The next 2 years will determine his fate here, and quite possibly affect his future somewhere else.

But I need to see it before I believe it. That's the single biggest difference between me and a few others on this board.

I want to get on board. I really do. Imagine a season where there is little or no bitching and moaning about issues whether they are player or coaching related?

I'm just not sure DH is the answer. He's come a long way since he came here, but the biggest obstacle still remains, and we all know what that is, the proverbial hump.

As some has said, there are people around the program who are not convinced he can get us there, even with next year's roster. And there are some who think he can.

Different people, different opinions. Same as us who think he might be leaving, and those who think no way.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 8 years ago

Agreed with GBG

Ramblinrose · Unread post by **Ramblinrose** » 8 years ago

A week ago, I scoffed at the idea of Dan to Rutgers. Less so now.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 8 years ago

We'll be shutting this thread down in a few hours.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 8 years ago

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

You really think he'll announce he's staying at this show?

In any event, let us know what's going on asap?

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 8 years ago

Ramblinrose wrote:A week ago, I scoffed at the idea of Dan to Rutgers. Less so now.

Why less so now? Because you didn't think a Big 10 program could throw more dollars at him or because you believe the speculation from some Jersey writers with 800 followers?

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

It's true we haven't got any tweets confirming Dan's interest in the job from any of the big media outlets yet.

Until or unless we do, it's pure speculation.

If we get info from credible sources that he's interviewing, then it's serious.

Otherwise, I'm thinking he's staying.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 8 years ago

Dan has a good agent. A good agent "creates" demand in the marketplace, even if its one-sided. It ups his client's leverage and also justifies the agents existence.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 8 years ago

As I've said, I hope URI doesn't panic and
give Dan a CFL contract before many
questions are answered down the road.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

Rod, no way could URI match what Rutgers could offer, either in pay or perks.

Plus he hasn't delivered yet. Just because there's a chance he might next year, is not reason to put the cart before the horse.

They've kind of done that already with his previous extension, but the buyout provisions aren't anything like what happened 12 years ago.

I would rather URI moves on instead. Nothing against Dan either. If this was 2 years from now, and we've Danced twice, then by all means try and keep him.....

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 8 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:It's true we haven't got any tweets confirming Dan's interest in the job from any of the big media outlets yet.

Until or unless we do, it's pure speculation.

If we get info from credible sources that he's interviewing, then it's serious.

Otherwise, I'm thinking he's staying.

LOL...from "guy that knows because he's been around forever"...the only way to tell if something is 'serious' or not is based on 'tweets.'

"If it's just on the internet, it might not be true, but if it's been tweeted...take it to the bank."

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 8 years ago

It's a new world.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

After tonight's show, I tend to agree with ATP.

It's already been dismissed out of hand by Dan.

A bunch of bozos from NJ creating rumors......

Happy now 208?

Ramblinrose · Unread post by **Ramblinrose** » 8 years ago

I'm warming to the idea of Preston , ,,alumnus, knows some of the players, veteran assistant. And a talented black coach is a plus. Learned from Skinner and Cooley.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 8 years ago

Then u should move to Omaha and cheer for Creighton for a short term fix.
For the record, PM is not ready to be a HC yet.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

If Dan doesn't deliver the next couple of years, or he does and goes P5, then Preston will be the popular and logical choice to succeed him imo.

He could still be at Creighton, or at a lower level HC job by then......

How about he takes over for Cluess at Iona if he leaves? Just thoughts....

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 8 years ago

Preston feels he is ready.
I like a guy who believes in his dreams.
For the record, of course.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 8 years ago

I'm sure he does.
I love the idea of Preston as our head coach, just not yet.
ARD and Tyson as his assistants. If the team gets the injury bug we can just throw our coaches in the game.

brady1 · Unread post by **brady1** » 8 years ago

Love Preston.

There is Zero chance Preston becomes URI's head coach next year.

GO RHODY!

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 8 years ago

Could be a blessing for Preston.
Maybe he'll get a head coaching job and
put an end to the doubters, when the time comes.
He said he'd," go all out to prove it
to the world".
I, for one, believe he would.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 8 years ago

I hope Preston can start getting some chances to interview and maybe even get his shot starting now. I think he's ready to do it, it just has to be the right situation. He can also afford to have some patience. I don't want to see him go into a hopeless situation just to do it.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 8 years ago

If coach stays we will be riding this horse again next year.......

Again, I just hope PM is still avail and McDermott doesn't go anywhere this offseason.....

Preston is most certainly not Claude.....

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 8 years ago

rambone 78 wrote:After tonight's show, I tend to agree with ATP.

It's already been dismissed out of hand by Dan.

A bunch of bozos from NJ creating rumors......

Happy now 208?

Good job, great family, living in a nice area...I'm always happy. How about you?

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

Just got off the narcotics 5 weeks after my accident....kind of out of whack a little bit....but then again, I'm always a little out of whack.....

This board helps me keep the right level of agitation also....all is good.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 8 years ago

My hope is that Hurley stays and completes the rebuild...listening to the coaches show got me pumped about next season. My biggest hope is that URI becomes like an Xavier or VCU or Dayton, which have become immune to coaching changes....especially Xavier - Gillen - Prosser - Matta - Sean Miller - Chris Mack. I'm sure Mack will eventually move on to a good P5 job, then.....

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 8 years ago

Those teams aren't immune from coaching changes. They just continually make good hires. Big difference. Look at UCLA since Wooden. Good coaches thrive. Bad ones don't. You just want to be a program that is in a constant state of rebuilding. Narrows the coaching pool quite a bit.

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 8 years ago

Hire Murphy! or Larranaga!

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 8 years ago

Just asking now don't get excited but is there a Jim Harrick equivalent out there we might consider for another 2 season dance with the devil? This team will be primed for a deep tournament fun.

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 8 years ago

Is Nolan Richardson still alive?
Can't think of any recent NCAA championship
coaches floating around, unemployed.
Never enjoyed Rhody ball more than those
two years, except maybe Tom Penders'
two years.

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 8 years ago

I think Richardson is an assistant. You know, that veteran coaching presence on a bench.

I think we could settle for a Final Four guy. There could be a Final Four guy where the time is ripe.

Ben Howland last year would have been that type.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 8 years ago

Seawrightspostgame wrote:Hire Murphy! or Larranaga!

And fire Hurley?

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 8 years ago

Ben Howland made a boatload of money.
He has a great track record.
Got UCLA to Final Four three times, including the finals once.
How are they doing now?
He'll get MSU going soon enough.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

Howland is a very good coach.

He had issues with some players I think. I remember reading that SI article about that situation.

As the coach, if you can't control your players, you will take the fall at some point.

We had some experience with that, at the end of Baron's time here.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 8 years ago

Preston would be perfect.
Can't see how he wouldn't be ready to take over.

josephski · Unread post by **josephski** » 8 years ago

PeterRamTime wrote:Preston would be perfect.
Can't see how he wouldn't be ready to take over.

No head coaching experience and would be taking over a team that has a very good chance at making the tournament. That would be an enormous risk.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

PeterRamTime wrote:Preston would be perfect.
Can't see how he wouldn't be ready to take over.

Preston would need to hire a couple of strong assistants, besides ARD.

And there you go, about assistant coach salaries. Since URI would probably start Preston at a somewhat lower pay scale, they could bump his assistant coach's up. That would help bring in a better staff.

There is risk yes, but there's risk with any new coach. I think if Preston gets the job, the kids stay, at least the current ones. I also doubt all the recruits would leave, maybe 1 or 2.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 8 years ago

Again as nauseum I think Penders would help him for small $$$

I have no doubt the Internet crazy Penders is reading this thread.....

I am convinced we will be fine whatever happens! Next year will be sweet with or without Dan.

The RAC, really? Makes no sense me....

Gonebarongone · Unread post by **Gonebarongone** » 8 years ago

PeterRamTime wrote:Preston would be perfect.
Can't see how he wouldn't be ready to take over.

He's never been on the bench for a big game in his coaching career. He was DBO at BC, then his years at URI had no big games, back to BC in their lull for no big games, NIT for Creighton tonight. I would flip it around and ask why you would think he is? I get the reasons for PM but, man, with a roster like this next year that is an awfully big risk.

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 8 years ago

I think if there isn't any name out there that has already coached to or past the Sweet Sixteen then you give it to Preston.

Also don't do it in a vacuum. Have an exhaustive conversation about assistants(who they are and how much) and the strategy. How will he lead them? All that.

Have to consider SLU is also looking for a coach. So if URI goes national in the coaching search they will be competing against SLU.

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