A-10s - Brooklyn

skwalk47 · Unread post by **skwalk47** » 8 years ago

Here we go. I wouldnt exactly give us a very good chance of winning this thing but we have all seen stranger things happen.

IF we beat UMass, VCU game 2 is going to be very difficult but if we somehow get past them I think Bonnies is the best matchup for us of the top 4.

Setting expectations low, would be nice to see us win 2 games and have a chance at the NIT, if we go on some sort of crazy run I hope to see some of you in Brooklyn on Sunday.

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 8 years ago

Anyone can beat anyone in the A10....one game at a time....

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 8 years ago

Crazier things have happened and (just in case) I plan to be there to see it firsthand. GO RHODY!!!!

I think "winning 2" would mean 'crazy run'...if they beat VCU, they'll win the whole thing... but that is a mega-huge 'if'....

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

Maybe the entire VCU team will come down with the flu.

Nothing serious mind you, just a 24 hour bug on Friday......

I think some of our guys had it against Fordham...I swear I've never seen so many injuries and the like affect a team, especially at the wrong times......

spookydog · Unread post by **spookydog** » 8 years ago

VCU won't need the flu. The just need to forget how to press. <insert fingers crossed emoji>

steveystuds06 · Unread post by **steveystuds06** » 8 years ago

Let's focus on beating Umass first

luke · Unread post by **luke** » 8 years ago

Good point 06. One game at a time. You only have to win the game in front of you.
The thinking has to be that you only have to win one game to go to the Dance and
that is your next game.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 8 years ago

steveystuds06 wrote:Let's focus on beating Umass first

uMass will press all night until they drop and then they will press more......Hurley has shown thus far that he will not throw the long ball to beat the press instead preferring the point guard mindset of I can dribble thru anything. That needs to change and probably will since we only have one guy who can dribble through anything most of the time.

I hope so....but coaches who were point guards tend to be stubborn about the press.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

Well Dan has stated that he's flexible as a coach as to strategy....and he's shown that at times.

Let's see if he does change it up...although next season we really won't have any more really good ball handlers coming in except possibly Dowtin. And he being a freshman probably won't play that much with the guard depth we will have.

This season we've had to rely on Four to handle the ball far more than what was planned, and that's cost us many times.

If EC shows an improved handle with his hand finally healed, we'll be OK I would think.

eli#10 · Unread post by **eli#10** » 8 years ago

How does Robinson handle the ball? He should also help a little.

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 8 years ago

hrstrat57 wrote: uMass will press all night until they drop and then they will press more......Hurley has shown thus far that he will not throw the long ball to beat the press instead preferring the point guard mindset of I can dribble thru anything. That needs to change and probably will since we only have one guy who can dribble through anything most of the time.

I hope so....but coaches who were point guards tend to be stubborn about the press.

These are the silly criticisms of Hurley that draw me out of the woodwork...

"Throw[ing] the long ball" to beat the press isn't a "strategy," it is a play that can be used in one-off situations when the pressing team completely sells out to stop the short inbounds pass. Try doing it more than once against a press and see how many times it gets picked off/thrown away. It is not exactly the biggest coaching breakthrough for opponents of URI to understand that we are susceptible to the press right now. We have one solid ball-handler, a couple of passable ones, and three other guys in our regular rotation of 7 players who should not handle the ball under any circumstances. If we tried to "use the long-ball" more often, that would also only serve to speed up the game, which given our depth situation is clearly not a good option.

"The point guard mindset of I can dribble thru anything?" You think Hurley tells Jarvis to just dribble into/through traps without trying to pass out of them because Hurley was a PG and thinks PGs are invincible?

I mean come on, let's try to assign blame to gameplanning missteps that can actually be attributed to the coach. I can even get on board with criticizing Hurley for not giving Berry 10 minutes a game before Hass went down. Unfortunately there just isn't much with this roster that Hurley can do to discourage teams from pressing us. We might get some easy baskets, but we'll also turn it over at a higher-than-desirable rate and/or speed up the pace of play which will hurt us down the stretch given our lack of warm bodies.

section(105) · Unread post by **section(105)** » 8 years ago

I would offer that the traps used by Fordham, in the half court press, need to be countered by the other offensive players not being trapped, to move into open space and toward to the ball position to present themselves to receive pass....thus reducing the need for dribble out of trap......worked for my CYO team.....My guess is this recent shown weakness is being addressed by the coaches......

Rhodymob05 · Unread post by **Rhodymob05** » 8 years ago

I love the UMASS game but VCU is much quicker than us. BUT its MARCH.

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 8 years ago

section(105) wrote:I would offer that the traps used by Fordham, in the half court press, need to be countered by the other offensive players not being trapped, to move into open space and toward to the ball position to present themselves to receive pass....thus reducing the need for dribble out of trap......worked for my CYO team.....My guess is this recent shown weakness is being addressed by the coaches......

Your point is correct 105, they should move towards open space. I love the line "worked for my CYO team." Might be a little easier for your players to execute, as opposed to our depleted roster doing it against a Fordham team that is 15th in the country at forcing turnovers.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 8 years ago

Does UMass really possess that fearsome of a trap that you need to do something special? They caught us a couple times the other night, but I don't feel like they were able to consistently hurt our offense.

In short, do we really need to change what we did the other night when we beat them convincingly?

section(105) · Unread post by **section(105)** » 8 years ago

I would offer that UMess will not be as bad as they were in the first half on Senior night.....and their scout coaches may have seen the effectiveness of the Fordham 1/2 court traps.....

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 8 years ago

Fordham is 15th in the nation at forcing TOs. UMass is 168th. Should they scout the hell out of it, I'm still not that worried about them being as effective as Fordham.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

If they trap us, it will force a more uptempo game, which might not help as we are shorthanded obviously...but then again, UMass isn't that good......

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 8 years ago

Fordham played a gimmick half court trapping defense meant to get the ball out of Jarvis's hand. It wasnt rocket science he's our lone facilitator right now, Dan knows how to beat it, but he can only play with the weapons he has.
Dayton pressed out of desperation late in the game, and when a team plays helter skelter like that they of course will cause a couple TOs, they never could sustain that for a long stretch and we eventually would have shredded it.
Agree with SF, some of the criticisms make it obvious folks didn't play this game. Its not that simple.

luke · Unread post by **luke** » 8 years ago

Of course anyone who knows the game Knows that you don't dribble through a trapping
zone press and Hurley knows the game. In addition you are supposed to go side to middle
with your passes in the backcourt and don't dribble along the sidelines. Keep the ball in
the middle of the court as much as possible and keep your head up, looking to pass forward
as soon possible and then attack the rim if available. There should be almost no dribbling in
the backcourt.

Rhodymob05 · Unread post by **Rhodymob05** » 8 years ago

Watching these mid major conference tourneys is getting me pumped for Brooklyn baby!

RhodyRamsRep · Unread post by **RhodyRamsRep** » 8 years ago

Hey Rams Fans!

We still have tickets for Thursday's game vs. UMASS for just $35 and packages for all 7 sessions starting at just $100! Give me a call if you're looking to make the trip to Brooklyn. Tickets can be picked up at The Ryan Center, or Barclays will-call on the day of the game.

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tfoley@uri.edu

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 8 years ago

Those look like good seat locations... mid-level. Wish I could go.

Blue Man · Unread post by **Blue Man** » 8 years ago

RhodyRamsRep wrote:Hey Rams Fans!

We still have tickets for Thursday's game vs. UMASS for just $35 and packages for all 7 sessions starting at just $100! Give me a call if you're looking to make the trip to Brooklyn. Tickets can be picked up at The Ryan Center, or Barclays will-call on the day of the game.

Available Sections: 111 and 109

(401)874-4295
tfoley@uri.edu

Get to Saturday and I'll be bringing a STORM with me. Otherwise I'll be drinking the pain away in Newport.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 8 years ago

I appreciate them really committing to having these injuries/illnesses to the very end. No let up.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 8 years ago

Yep, all about that consistency

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 8 years ago

Blue Man wrote:
RhodyRamsRep wrote:Hey Rams Fans!

We still have tickets for Thursday's game vs. UMASS for just $35 and packages for all 7 sessions starting at just $100! Give me a call if you're looking to make the trip to Brooklyn. Tickets can be picked up at The Ryan Center, or Barclays will-call on the day of the game.

Available Sections: 111 and 109

(401)874-4295
tfoley@uri.edu
Get to Saturday and I'll be bringing a STORM with me. Otherwise I'll be drinking the pain away in Newport.

BM, don't look at it as drinking the pain away.
You'll be drinking anyway win or lose (I will...and I'm going)...no need to pre-associate it with pain.

jgrande · Unread post by **jgrande** » 8 years ago

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Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 8 years ago

Here is rather startling prediction for the A-10 winner.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/forde-minu ... ncaab.html

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 8 years ago

Haha wow!! That would certainly be interesting.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 8 years ago

adam914 wrote:Haha wow!! That would certainly be interesting.

And it wasn't but a few months ago that the pretty much annual topic came up they don't even belong in the A10 and bring the league down.
Would not be a surprise to see them pull an upset or two or even three

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

I think they will beat Richmond and then give Dayton all they can handle, but I don't see them winning that game.

The A10 should find a way to go to either 12 or 16 teams. 4 days of games is enough.

The "bottom four" is a pretty crappy bunch in this league.

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 8 years ago

In the first PIG game of the first round, Saint Louis beats George Mason 83-78. The Billikens will now face GW in the 2:30 PM game Thursday.

89er · Unread post by **89er** » 8 years ago

Last year Rhody fans gathered at BDubs before Friday's game. Real good time!! Anything going on this year?

DanInAZ · Unread post by **DanInAZ** » 8 years ago

https://twitter.com/garrett_waller/stat ... 4021393408

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 8 years ago

'bout 3.5 hours til train time, hoping to see lots of Rhody support down there tonite!

rodfromcranston · Unread post by **rodfromcranston** » 8 years ago

One thing I recall Dan doing to break the press was
having Gil up near midcourt, so he could take a pass
and distribute , much like the high post player vs. a zone.
Iverson could be the ideal player to take that role.
Good teams attack the basket after breaking the press,
taking advantage of numbers.
Dribbling through a press is a recipe for disaster.
Is this game on TV?

sf2010 · Unread post by **sf2010** » 8 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:One thing I recall Dan doing to break the press was
having Gil up near midcourt, so he could take a pass
and distribute , much like the high post player vs. a zone.
Iverson could be the ideal player to take that role.
Good teams attack the basket after breaking the press,
taking advantage of numbers.
Dribbling through a press is a recipe for disaster.

Iverson has been doing that. Been making his way to around the jump circle and being an outlet for the guards to pass to if/when they run into problems. The issue with attacking the basket once we get into a 4-on-3 situation is with how much it speeds up the game, something that the coaches obviously do not want to do with only being able to play 7/8 players. Given how gassed Garrett and others have been towards the end of games even playing an extremely slowed down pace, it's hard to see that as being the wrong decision.

rhodysurf · Unread post by **rhodysurf** » 8 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote: Is this game on TV?

Yeah NBC Sports (590 Verizon)

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 8 years ago

rodfromcranston wrote:One thing I recall Dan doing to break the press was
having Gil up near midcourt, so he could take a pass
and distribute , much like the high post player vs. a zone.
Iverson could be the ideal player to take that role.
Good teams attack the basket after breaking the press,
taking advantage of numbers.
Dribbling through a press is a recipe for disaster.
Is this game on TV?

Rod after the 22-8 arse kicking we took against uMass right out of the locker room at start of 2nd half was analyzed I expect no worries tonight. As I've said I can't get into Hurley practices but I expect we will have multiple plays in place to shred the crappy uMass press. With VCU the next game in line scoring easy buckets attacking the press is an opportunity to go deep in this tourney.

If Kellogg persists with it most of the game I expect a big win. Iverson and Terrell are licking their chops at all the layups they are gong to get.

I told my teams "time for layups"!! Unlike other recent Ram teams this team is very strong in the layup line.

Big win tonight and let's take on what's left of Havoc!!

Stop! Rammer Time · Unread post by **Stop! Rammer Time** » 8 years ago

Obadiah wrote:Here is rather startling prediction for the A-10 winner.

So much for Fordham winning the Tournament, they were down by 16 at the half to Richmond and ended up losing 70-55.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 8 years ago

Stop! Rammer Time wrote:
Obadiah wrote:Here is rather startling prediction for the A-10 winner.

So much for Fordham winning the Tournament, they were down by 16 at the half to Richmond and ended up losing 70-55.

Saw a lot of this game on NBC SN, Spiders looked real strong

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 8 years ago

VCU is rolling over UMass and is up by 26 halfway through the second half. UMass is 1-9 on threes, but VCU is 0 for 11. VCU is killing them on rebounding.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

Didn't think there would be any upsets in the A10 tourney today.

Earlier, it looked like GW could spring a surprise, but didn't happen.

I think if the Bonnies can win tonight, the A10 will get 4 in. I think they will, but Davidson is dangerous if their 3's are falling....

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 8 years ago

URI is the only favorite to lose in yesterday's games and so far today.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 8 years ago

Great.....

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 8 years ago

With 11 seconds left, Davidson's Aldridge was fouled on a three point attempt and then put in three FT's to tie the game against the Bonnies and send it into OT knotted at 75.

Obadiah · Unread post by **Obadiah** » 8 years ago

Davidson wins in OT, 90-86. Tough loss for the Bonnies who led throughout most of the game by as much as 11 points in the second half.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 8 years ago

I could not care less what happens in Brooklyn now.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 8 years ago

Obadiah wrote:Davidson wins in OT, 90-86. Tough loss for the Bonnies who led throughout most of the game by as much as 11 points in the second half.

Sets up a great game with Davidson vs VCU
Dayton plays St Joe

Can Davidson win next two and grab the Bid?

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