URI vs PC next 5 years?

[Stop! Rammer Time]

http://rhodyrampage.com/2015/09/16/cbs- ... de-island/

Shoutout to Smarty for putting this together, thought I would post for a point of discussion.

Call me biased, but I'd say there's no way PC is better over the next 5 years

[SmartyBarrett]

Thanks! I'm sure Norlander's getting it from all sides today. Imagine if you were a UNC fan...

[Billyboy78]

I love it when PC sucks. But it's great for Rhode Island basketball and the rivalry when both teams are good. That's what it was like when I was in school and it was fierce.

[hrstrat57]

I love it when PC sucks. But it's great for Rhode Island basketball and the rivalry when both teams are good. That's what it was like when I was in school and it was fierce.

Don't care. PC and the NYY same hate for me....can't lose enough.

That is all.

[NHRamFan]

The PC/URI rivalry probably means more to us older fans, who remember playing twice a year; but it's still THE game for RI bragging rights each year. (until/unless a miracle happens in Smithfield and at Brown).

[TruePoint]

I'm not totally sold Cooley as a coach or a recruiter. The entire thing under his watch is built on two guys, one of whom was a zero star recruit that landed in their lap and they didn't even recruit until the summer before his freshman year. Cotton and Dunn, that's it. Nobody else they've had has inspired much jealousy from me. Cooley's biggest recruiting wins have contributed nothing or next to nothing to their program. If you take away Cotton and Dunn, they probably don't have a NIT appearance to show for his time there. He does get credit for bringing those guys in and developing them, but beyond those two players what has his impact been? Getting a rapper who peaked 13 years ago to come to midnight madness?

[RF1]

Hurley has as many NCAA wins as Cooley.

[rambone 78]

Cooley's chief recruiter left also. Who have they picked up since?

As a big game coach [as in NCAA's] he didn't exactly cover himself in glory, especially last year against Dayton....

I think he relys heavily on his assistants, maybe more so than most head coaches....

[PlayMikeMotenMore]

Agree RF1...but Hurley has as many NCAA appearances as every poster on this board (unfortunately)...so far.

[theblueram]

Fortunately in the game that matters we are going to beat them this year. If EC stays for his senior year we are going to embarrass them next year at the dump as Dunn will no doubt declare.

[bigappleram]

Its good for RI Basketball when both of them are good and we are better.

Cooley has won through adverse conditions, albeit nothing in March to show for it.

The last NCAA win for a Rhode Island team was by URI and its likely the next one will be too. That has to burn.

[Blue Man]

Its good for RI Basketball when both of them are good and we are better.

Cooley has won through adverse conditions, albeit nothing in March to show for it.

The last NCAA win for a Rhode Island team was by URI and its likely the next one will be too. That has to burn.

No use counting chickens yet. We still have a game on December 5, a whole season to play, and a tournament to make before we start a party.

[Rhody74]

This is silly. I think URI's next 5 years will be better than the last 5 but there are so many variables I don't see anyone can make a prediction.

[rjsuperfly66]

This conversation is so stupid, not the discussion points but the topic in general.
1) Who knows?
2) Who cares?
If either school loses their coach, lean the other way. If either school lands a major recruit, lean that way. Do certain players develop and exceed expectations? Does someone with big expectations come in and flop?
Reality is that URI probably wins this year because they are playing at home, and that's about as relevant as the conversation gets.
The rest is simply baseless opinions and speculation. I don't know what the impressions on the rosters will be in December, forget 2, 3, 4 and 5 years from now.

[TruePoint]

This conversation is so stupid, not the discussion points but the topic in general.
1) Who knows?
2) Who cares?
If either school loses their coach, lean the other way. If either school lands a major recruit, lean that way. Do certain players develop and exceed expectations? Does someone with big expectations come in and flop?
Reality is that URI probably wins this year because they are playing at home, and that's about as relevant as the conversation gets.
The rest is simply baseless opinions and speculation. I don't know what the impressions on the rosters will be in December, forget 2, 3, 4 and 5 years from now.

All fair, except I would take Rhody this year if the game was played at Alumni Hall.

[rjsuperfly66]

Brave speculation since URI hasn't won at PC since 2002

[Stop! Rammer Time]

This conversation is so stupid, not the discussion points but the topic in general.
1) Who knows?
2) Who cares?
If either school loses their coach, lean the other way. If either school lands a major recruit, lean that way. Do certain players develop and exceed expectations? Does someone with big expectations come in and flop?
Reality is that URI probably wins this year because they are playing at home, and that's about as relevant as the conversation gets.
The rest is simply baseless opinions and speculation. I don't know what the impressions on the rosters will be in December, forget 2, 3, 4 and 5 years from now.

in regards to who cares?

it was put out by CBS sports, there's another bit of national publicity that we could've gotten that could help to further the Rhody brand. Instead it's the same old same old ... I think that is interesting to consider given how things look at this point.

[TruePoint]

Brave speculation since URI hasn't won at PC since 2002

True. We also haven't had a team of this caliber since well before that.

[Rhody72]

We do have a history of losing coaches as soon as we are successful and our history of hiring good new coaches is 50/50. Gordie Chiasa is the only dog I can remember PC hiring but some others have been average. URI stuck with its last dog for 11 years. Then there was JD.

It has taken DH longer to bring URI back than PC fans would have tolerated.

In short, this team has to prove itself and the URI Athletic Program has to prove itself. The football program is an albatross around athletics at URi.

[El Diablo]

Hurley has as many NCAA wins as Cooley.

Same number of wins Hurley has vs Cooley in the last 3 years...

[NHRamFan]

Let it be noted that the p!ss!ng contest commenced on September 17....11 weeks of pre-game banter!! Burr, meet Saddle!

[860_rhody]

Why is this even a discussion? We have no clue what either team will look like in 5 years. I wouldn't be surprised if Hurley and Cooley are both gone in 5 years.

[ace]

It's a discussion because someone at CBS Sports wanted to make this pretty map, I'm guessing.

BTW- that V does not represent me- I reject the V!

[theblueram]

I'm sure this banter is happening in every state. I would think UNC fans think they are better than Duke. It's the start of the season. Time to renew the rivalries. If there wasn't any hate, wouldn't be a rivalry.

[bigappleram]

Rams take the next two. After that who knows.

[URI_IEP]

I think Salve Regina is going to have a pretty killer team in 2020.

[rjsuperfly66]

Gordie Chiasa is the only dog I can remember PC hiring but some others have been average.

I'm glad the Keno Davis era has been removed from most of your minds!!!

[RF1]

What about Gary Walters?

[Rhodygrad98]

I'm so tired of the URI/PC stuff. We need to win on the court and establish ourselves as being back on the radar. It's been so long since we were relevant and it will take a few years of success before we mean anything to anyone outside of this board.

PC has owned us for a while. Can we please beat them once before we start saying we will be better than them for the foreseeable future?

That success no doubt should start this season and hopefully continue for years to come.

Go Rhody!

[Rhody72]

PC seems to be less tolerant of mediocrity than URI. This is because PC has had more success and reached to NCAAs more times. URI was intolerant of JD after JH took us to the NCAAs two years in a row. After JD URI tolerated JB far too long.

But the question asked in this thread is 'URI vs PC next 5 years?'. Of course no one knows the future for sure, so you have to consider the history of the program to make a guess. I believe that URI will not have high expectations of success which if not met will be grounds for changes until it achieves success. In basketball, this means making it to the NCAAs. Otherwise leadership changes will not be made until contracts are nearing completion. Dan has not been successful yet. I hope that this is the year. If he leaves before achieving success, the administration will have no immediate expectation for success for his successor. This is why I think PC has a better chance for success 3, 4, 5 years from now even though my heart wishes otherwise.

[Blue Man]

We do have a history of losing coaches as soon as we are successful and our history of hiring good new coaches is 50/50. Gordie Chiasa is the only dog I can remember PC hiring but some others have been average. URI stuck with its last dog for 11 years. Then there was JD.

It has taken DH longer to bring URI back than PC fans would have tolerated.

In short, this team has to prove itself and the URI Athletic Program has to prove itself. The football program is an albatross around athletics at URi.

I'm confused by all of this. Thorr Bjorn has made 1 basketball hire, and that seems to be pretty OK, like kind of decent.

I don't get the "history" part of it, since none of the administration responsible for the laughable period from 2000-Hurley exists any more.

Hurley brought us "back" within 3 years. I'd say that last year we were back. We were competitive and in the mix for an NCAA spot, and almost the tourney finals. That's all you'd ask for as a fan.

PC ditched Keno Davis because he followed an AWFUL 4 years post Ryan Gomes under Tim Welsh, with a 19 win NIT appearance, and then 2 worse years. I'm not sure I'd say they weren't patient. 7 years and 2 winning seasons, while getting worse, sounds patient enough.

As for football being an "albatross" - I don't get what that means. At all. The football team costs URI like 500k a year. It's irrelevant to the functioning of the basketball program, and since basketball is the flagship program of this institution, I'd say athletics has little to prove to those of us that aren't going full curmudgeon just for the sake of complaining about something.

We're potentially standing at the onset of the best 2-4 year period in our program's history. If you're not happy now, you're just a dink.