2016-17 Schedule Discussion

jmck · Unread post by **jmck** » 8 years ago

Obadiah wrote:Back to the schedule;

HOF tournament details as of now. Dates/times to follow.

@ Mohegan

Game 1: URI vs. Cincinnati
Game 2: URI vs. Duke/Penn State

@ Ryan

Game 1: URI vs. Brown
Game 2: URI vs. Marist

Hoping the Sunday games are something like 12 and 230 since the pats play at 425

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 8 years ago

Rhode Island will host Marist as part of its 2016-17 non-conference schedule, source told @CBSSports.
8:07am - 16 Apr 16

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 8 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:Rhode Island will host Marist as part of its 2016-17 non-conference schedule, source told @CBSSports.
8:07am - 16 Apr 16

I think the source was our very own Obadiah

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 8 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:Rhode Island will host Marist as part of its 2016-17 non-conference schedule, source told @CBSSports.
8:07am - 16 Apr 16

I fondly recall attending URI's first ever NIT home game, a win over the Marist Red Foxes at a raucous Keaney Gym. Drove home that night happy despite the intermittent snow squalls.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 8 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote:Rhode Island will host Marist as part of its 2016-17 non-conference schedule, source told @CBSSports.
8:07am - 16 Apr 16

Boo Hiss!

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 8 years ago

PeterRamTime wrote:
Billyboy78 wrote:Rhode Island will host Marist as part of its 2016-17 non-conference schedule, source told @CBSSports.
8:07am - 16 Apr 16
Boo Hiss!

We will get two RPI anchor games and two marquis RPI games for the four game tourney. That is probably about as good and could be expected.

I am more bummed that one of the games is Brown. We already play them every year and I thought this tournament would give us two new home games. Having brown as an opponent means URI now must get another game late in the process and we have seen how that sometimes works out. Might even now have to put up more money for a buy game that we would not have had to do with the H&H with Brown.

jmck · Unread post by **jmck** » 8 years ago

Play Brown @ Brown and take their money and credit for a road win in the RPI formula.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 8 years ago

jmck wrote:Play Brown @ Brown and take their money and credit for a road win in the RPI formula.

There is no money for playing at Brown. They do not do guarantee games. We played there last year as part of a rotating even up home and home series.

We most likely would already have Brown in Kingston this season's schedule. The thinking was that this tournament would get Rhody two additional home games with no strings (payouts or return game).

2016-17 Schedule known thus far

Home
Brown (HOF)
Marist (HOF)
Old Dominion

Away
Valpo
Houston
Providence

Neutral (Mohegan Sun)
Cincinnati
Duke/Penn State

13 OOC Games allowed with an 18 game A-10 Slate

Five additional games now to be determined (would only have been four if Brown was not a HOF game). Most of these will need to be home games and it would be good for ticket sales if one was a somewhat higher profile name. Last season the home schedule had PC (NCAA), Valpo (NIT runner-up), Iona (NCAA), and Houston (NIT). This year all we know is we have Marist, Brown, and ODU (Vegas 16 Champ).

Will we be left to scramble and cobble together a schedule late in the process and get the likes of a Pace or Stonehill again?

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 8 years ago

Disappointing ticket so far.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 8 years ago

Win all the games and it won't really matter...Valpo, PC and Houston on the road plus whatever conference games - that's not horrible...win those...things will take care of themselves?

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 8 years ago

NYGFan_Section208 wrote:Win all the games and it won't really matter...Valpo, PC and Houston on the road plus whatever conference games - that's not horrible...win those...things will take care of themselves?

The three known home games however won't drive ticket sales for the early season.

Seawrightspostgame · Unread post by **Seawrightspostgame** » 8 years ago

Who did Cinci draw? Duke? Did they get better home games from the tournament?

An awkward drawback, but URI still gets a shot at 2 teams URI cant draw to Kingston. And the obvious big part of that is that its a local neutral floor and not @those gyms.

steveystuds06 · Unread post by **steveystuds06** » 8 years ago

We need to BEAT some tournament teams in the nonconference. Besides Cincy and possibly Duke I don't see any on our schedule. What scares me is we saw the respect the A10 gets on Selection Sunday if you only get your top 50 wins in the conference. I hope we don't put ourselves in that situation.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 8 years ago

RF1 wrote:
NYGFan_Section208 wrote:Win all the games and it won't really matter...Valpo, PC and Houston on the road plus whatever conference games - that's not horrible...win those...things will take care of themselves?
The three known home games however won't drive ticket sales for the early season.

I kind of think having such a weak three games scheduled at this point could end up being a blessing in disguise. I have to think they understand that the home schedule really needs some quality as it is rounded out, both from a basketball and marketing standpoint. Having it so weak as currently constituted will hopefully put some pressure on to really work hard at bringing in a team or two that will give it some quality. Whereas if the schedule were a bit more decent at this point you could see them just rounding it out with more "decent." This is my hope, anyways.

PlayMikeMotenMore · Unread post by **PlayMikeMotenMore** » 8 years ago

jmck wrote:Play Brown @ Brown and take their money and credit for a road win in the RPI formula.

Play at Brown...short road trip, low expenses, good for players to play in road environment. Get the road win, good for RPI.

860_rhody · Unread post by **860_rhody** » 8 years ago

Any chance we could be in the A10/ACC challenge at Barclays next year? Seems like a perfect opportunity with the Brown game being a part of the tournament.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 8 years ago

First post updated because of Rothstein's tweet that we host Dartmouth. Old Dominion, Dartmouth, Brown, and Marist isn't exactly the start of an inspiring home schedule.

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 8 years ago

So far, this home OOC schedule is brutal.

860_rhody · Unread post by **860_rhody** » 8 years ago

H/Hs better be good.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 8 years ago

Here's an article from June about how UConn goes about scheduling with a brief mention of us:

http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-men ... story.html

"McCarthy said UConn is trying to balance the need for strong opponents with the need to ease travel by looking regionally first. That's how the Georgetown series, which will begin at the XL Center next season, came to be. McCarthy said UConn is open to playing New England teams like UMass, Rhode Island, Providence, Boston College and Harvard, though there is nothing yet in place."

ramfan85 · Unread post by **ramfan85** » 8 years ago

RhowdyRam02 wrote:Here's an article from June about how UConn goes about scheduling with a brief mention of us:

http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-men ... story.html

"McCarthy said UConn is trying to balance the need for strong opponents with the need to ease travel by looking regionally first. That's how the Georgetown series, which will begin at the XL Center next season, came to be. McCarthy said UConn is open to playing New England teams like UMass, Rhode Island, Providence, Boston College and Harvard, though there is nothing yet in place."

Good to see Paul found a job after the Beatles.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 8 years ago

Rhody15 wrote:So far, this home OOC schedule is brutal.

Obviously last year isn't predictive and I can't say I know enough about any of the four schools to know how they'll do compared to last year, but their RPI's were 140 (Old Dominion), 284 (Dartmouth), 312 (Brown), and 318 (Marist). I understand we play Brown every year and Marist is the cost of doing business to play at Mohegan, but having to change Brown over to a tournament game as opposed to getting a team like Albany (107) seems like it could really hurt us when it comes to scheduling for the season. I wonder if we take the Dartmouth game if we didn't need to schedule the extra game due to the Brown switch.

And that says nothing about the lack of sizzle that any of these teams bring to the table. They're a state rival, but is anyone excited for the Brown game? Is anyone really counting down the days before Jeff Jones' return with Old Dominion? One school that was mentioned was Tennessee, and I guess there's the whole Rick Barnes finally coming to Kingston thing, but even that isn't exactly a team that should draw much of anything. If anything you'd probably bring Friar fans in to cheer him on as opposed to bringing in casual fans to cheer for us. The home OOC schedule could sure use some excitement and quality.

860_rhody · Unread post by **860_rhody** » 8 years ago

One school that makes too much sense: Virginia Tech. Projected top 25 but they haven't done too well the last few years so they can't act like they're too good for us. Would be like a Nebraska, but we wouldn't be a huge underdog.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 8 years ago

Not a bad idea. Part of the draw with Nebraska was they were coming off a tournament bid and were bringing back enough talent that they were a preseason top 25 team, but like you said Virginia Tech seems to be on the upswing. Getting an ACC school in the building might be a draw. They were in the A10 for five years, so maybe a little something extra for some members of the fan base, but so long ago and for such a short time you can't call them a rival.

neil · Unread post by **neil** » 8 years ago

The average fan would be more excited about Rutgers or bc rather than Valpo. The name of the school attracts fans, but at the same time hurt our strength of schedule.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 8 years ago

We had a home and home with VT not too long ago. Would be a lot more interesting this time around.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 8 years ago

Call our friend Bryce Drew and get Vandy in.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 8 years ago

Per Jon Rothstein - A-10 to discuss reduction of league schedule at upcoming meetings

Observations: St. John's is primed to make a big jump in the Big East
By Jon Rothstein | CBS Sports
April 25, 2016 11:05 am ET
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... e-big-east

The Atlantic 10 will hold its league meetings next month in Naples and one major topic of discussion is going to be switching back to 16 league games instead of 18. This league had a combined 11 NCAA Tournament bids in 2013 and 2014 when teams in the conference only played 16 league games. Since it switched to 18 two years ago the Atlantic 10 has only put three teams in each of the past two NCAA Tournaments. Giving programs the opportunity to buy two more quality opponents could ultimately change the national perception of this conference.

I don't agree that the 18 game league schedule has caused the A-10 to have less NCAA bids. The conference schedule didn't keep SBU out of the tourney this past year. It was their weak OOC (not entirely by their choice-only one game vs a team from a top 8 conference) and the bias and uneven reasoning of the selection committee which kept the Bonnies out. Most A-10 programs already have a lot of difficulty putting together a decent OOC schedule (URI included-see Marist, Dartmouth, and Brown this year). Making them have to find two more opponents won't help and it might actually hurt many league teams (they will end up playing even lesser opponents). The only A-10 teams that a reduction in conference games might help are VCU and Dayton which have more cachet and are capable of getting good opponents. They however are already making the NCAA on a regular basis and don't need further help. That fact that most major conferences now have 18 game schedules won't help matters. Teams from those leagues do not have more games to schedule. A-10 members will be forced to schedule more games against lesser league teams, not better.

Unread post by **ATPTourFan** » 8 years ago

Yeah, the A10 is not in any position to BUY any games that would improve OOC schedules. We are at the mercy of the Power 5 who hold all the cards. For many teams in the A10, two conference games are a better RPI boost than having to find 2 more OOC games.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 8 years ago

And here's the press release for the Mohegan Sun tournament:

http://www.hoophall.com/news/2016/5/4/n ... 6-tip.html

Pre-sale tickets for participating schools go on sale May 11th. Tickets go on sale to the public September 9th. We play Marist November 14th. Brown November 16th. Cincinnati November 19th. Duke or Penn State November 20th.

First post edited to reflect dates.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 8 years ago

Opening night of the regular season is Friday, November 11th so I could see them playing a lesser opponent, maybe Dartmouth, then to get ready for the tournament. Probably three games before you get to Cincinnati eight days after the season starts, so hopefully there are three blowouts to balance freshness and lack of rust. Then you have about a two week window to try and get a name opponent in.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 8 years ago

By this time next month we should know our A10 schedule. The pairings were announced on May 27th last year.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 8 years ago

ATPTourFan wrote:Yeah, the A10 is not in any position to BUY any games that would improve OOC schedules. We are at the mercy of the Power 5 who hold all the cards. For many teams in the A10, two conference games are a better RPI boost than having to find 2 more OOC games.

Agree
The extra 2 OOC games would not be as good as the 2 lost A10 games

josephski · Unread post by **josephski** » 8 years ago

Just saw VCU scheduled Princeton. Anyone think we could schedule Harvard? They weren't very good last year but have 4 top 100 recruits coming in so they should be ok this year and would probably make for a good home and home.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 8 years ago

We played them in a secret scrimmage before last year. You could view that as the coaches have a good working relationship and could expand things to having a home and home. Or you could view it as the coaches don't think they match up well for regular season games.

Ashcat · Unread post by **Ashcat** » 8 years ago

The Tip-Off Classic Website indicates that there will be a “School Pre-sale” starting May 11th. Does anyone know if a Pre-sale password will be available for Rhody fans to purchase tickets early? If not tickets don’t go on sale until September 9th.

josephski · Unread post by **josephski** » 8 years ago

RhowdyRam02 wrote:We played them in a secret scrimmage before last year. You could view that as the coaches have a good working relationship and could expand things to having a home and home. Or you could view it as the coaches don't think they match up well for regular season games.

Yea the scrimmage is one of the reasons why I think it's possible because the coaches must have some type of relationship if they've had a closed scrimmage together. With that said I think we should be trying to schedule the more promising ivy league teams every year.

Also anyone know why we schedule Brown every year? I'd assume it's because it's an easy game to schedule being in Rhode Island whether it's home or away but I wouldn't consider it a rivalry and Brown is always pretty bad so it seems like a waste of a game.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 8 years ago

At this point it's all about tradition and location. They're our most played opponent, we've played them nine times more then UMass. UConn is still our third most played opponent, we've played them 16 more times then PC.

Brown 157
UMass 148
UConn 144
PC 128

I'm fine with Brown being on the schedule, every team is going to have weaker games, and I like the old time rivalry of Brown as opposed to having that game against a Dartmouth or similar opponent.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 8 years ago

Brown will play cincinnati in their other away game. While we are disappointed in our draw, brown is probably more so. They figured they were already coming to kingston and thought they were in line for two more games vs high profile (top 6-7conf members) teams.

twisted3829 · Unread post by **twisted3829** » 8 years ago

I would think Brown is good with the arrangement, the tournaments games are not buy games and they will not receive any money for them. By having URI as part of the tournament Brown can now schedule an addition buy game for more money instead of having 2 tourney games and 1 trip to URI with minimal monetary gain

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 8 years ago

Plus, being in the Ivy League, it's not like they're worried about getting an at large bid, so their strength of out of conference schedule isn't really important.

steveystuds06 · Unread post by **steveystuds06** » 8 years ago

Typical Duke fans saying there is no competition at the Mohegan tournament on their message board. Would love to shut them up and upset them.

josephski · Unread post by **josephski** » 8 years ago

Can't really blame them. They play penn state then us or cincy. Not great games for a team that will probably be the favorite to win the ncaa tournament next year.

PlayMikeMotenMore · Unread post by **PlayMikeMotenMore** » 8 years ago

steveystuds06 wrote:Typical Duke fans saying there is no competition at the Mohegan tournament on their message board. Would love to shut them up and upset them.

If you were a Duke fan, you'd be excited about playing Penn State or URI?? Cincy at least has some name recognition nationally. But I think Duke fans would be justified in tempering their enthusiasm.

PeterRamTime · Unread post by **PeterRamTime** » 8 years ago

Still I think they should recognize that Cinci and us will have too 25 caliber teams. Good tests for them early in the season with their young roster.

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 8 years ago

I called the box office last week regarding the early ticket release for the participating schools in the Mohegan Tourney, and I was told season ticket holders would be receiving an email regarding the password to buy the tickets early on ticketmaster. Has anyone received that email yet?

PlayMikeMotenMore · Unread post by **PlayMikeMotenMore** » 8 years ago

PeterRamTime wrote:Still I think they should recognize that Cinci and us will have too 25 caliber teams. Good tests for them early in the season with their young roster.

1) Top-25 caliber is different than being an actual top-25 team.
2) "They should recognize..." They should? Why?
3) URI has given Duke close games in the past but not beaten them. And because of close games that Duke has always won spread out over the last 30+ years, Duke should be excited about playing URI? Is there some type of Duke/URI rivalry that I'm missing?

My point is that you shouldn't be surprised and you shouldn't hold it against the Duke fandom for not fawning over the Duke vs. URI game. Duke has played, will play, and continues to play much bigger and higher profile games that fire up their fan base than the game against our beloved Rams.

jmck · Unread post by **jmck** » 8 years ago

Rhody15 wrote:I called the box office last week regarding the early ticket release for the participating schools in the Mohegan Tourney, and I was told season ticket holders would be receiving an email regarding the password to buy the tickets early on ticketmaster. Has anyone received that email yet?

Has anybody received the password? I am a new season ticket holders as of last month and have not received anything

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 8 years ago

jmck wrote:
Rhody15 wrote:I called the box office last week regarding the early ticket release for the participating schools in the Mohegan Tourney, and I was told season ticket holders would be receiving an email regarding the password to buy the tickets early on ticketmaster. Has anyone received that email yet?
Has anybody received the password? I am a new season ticket holders as of last month and have not received anything

Sent another email asking today, and was told due to the limited amount of presale tickets URI received, they won't be having the presale tomorrow. Information will be sent out in the following weeks regarding purchasing tickets.

Rhodymob05 · Unread post by **Rhodymob05** » 8 years ago

CBS Sports updated thier NCAA Mens Basketball pre-season Top 25 and URI is now #15 in the country. I think Duke should respect that.

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