Slightly OT: 30-Second Shot Clock?
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Slightly OT: 30-Second Shot Clock?
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I believe it was mentioned in another thread, but the NCAA is going to experiment with this in the NIT this year. If URI ends up in the NIT, I'll definitely be interested to see this in action.
I believe it was mentioned in another thread, but the NCAA is going to experiment with this in the NIT this year. If URI ends up in the NIT, I'll definitely be interested to see this in action.
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I wonder how that will work out?
Will it mean even more rushed shots?
Will it help a team like ours, who can play
good defense for a lesser amount of time?
The 24 second clock works in the NBA, because
almost everyone can shoot.
There was also talk about making the semi-circle under the basket bigger.
Seems that would favor the defense.
The game has changed to unarmed combat, from the beautiful, wide
open game it once was. Not sure if it can ever return to
The Showtime Lakers/'80s Celtics brand of running, gunning and pasing.
Will it mean even more rushed shots?
Will it help a team like ours, who can play
good defense for a lesser amount of time?
The 24 second clock works in the NBA, because
almost everyone can shoot.
There was also talk about making the semi-circle under the basket bigger.
Seems that would favor the defense.
The game has changed to unarmed combat, from the beautiful, wide
open game it once was. Not sure if it can ever return to
The Showtime Lakers/'80s Celtics brand of running, gunning and pasing.
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Seems like it would help a solid defensive team like ours. Not sure what it would do to us offensively.
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From a URI perspective, I think it's a double-edged sword. It will certainly help Rhody's defense, but it may also hurt their offense. Like you said, you need shooters with a shorter shot clock. Rams currently don't have many of those.rodfromcranston wrote:I wonder how that will work out?
Will it mean even more rushed shots?
Will it help a team like ours, who can play
good defense for a lesser amount of time?
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I am all for it. Our offense will be much better next year with Iverson who can shoot and pass it on the floor. He should really open up the floor. Put him on the foul line against a zone and at 6'9" he can pivot to the basket and either shoot a 10-15 footer or pass to an open shooter. His height is a real advantage.
The 10 second rule should also be changed. If the ball is knocked out of bounds or if a time out is called you should not get another 10 seconds.
The 10 second rule should also be changed. If the ball is knocked out of bounds or if a time out is called you should not get another 10 seconds.
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I would love this. It would speed the game up considerably and would mean more possessions. The game is already 8 minutes shorter than the pro game. Having a longer shot clock means even fewer possessions. I'm neutral as far as what it will mean for our team as currently constituted, but as a fan of the game in general I think it would be great.
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The college game is plagued by the inability to shoot. This won't change it.
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I would add that the college game is plagued by micromanaging coaches, especially at the end. Do your teaching in practice. I think constantly stopping the clock helps the defense more than the offense. Definitely shorten the shot clock and also take away a few timeouts. If the women's college game can have a 30 second shot clock, no reason the men can't. If you watch closely, many of the college possessions just start with 15 seconds of passing around the perimeter. I love the idea. Make it 25 seconds. Let their natural talent take over rather than a slow, over orchestrated possession.Ramblinrose wrote:The college game is plagued by the inability to shoot. This won't change it.
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Good point - you are right about the routine passing around the perimeter for 15 seconds before making attempts towards the hoop. I'd even go to the 24 second clock.Gonebarongone wrote:I would add that the college game is plagued by micromanaging coaches, especially at the end. Do your teaching in practice. I think constantly stopping the clock helps the defense more than the offense. Definitely shorten the shot clock and also take away a few timeouts. If the women's college game can have a 30 second shot clock, no reason the men can't. If you watch closely, many of the college possessions just start with 15 seconds of passing around the perimeter. I love the idea. Make it 25 seconds. Let their natural talent take over rather than a slow, over orchestrated possession.Ramblinrose wrote:The college game is plagued by the inability to shoot. This won't change it.
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Would eliminate a lot of the standing around for 25 seconds that we have now.
30 seconds is an improvement, but it won't change much. Like was said, make it 24 seconds.
30 seconds is an improvement, but it won't change much. Like was said, make it 24 seconds.
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There are the TV timeouts, which are now taken, even when there's
no TV!
I wish there weren't so many timeouts. Take some away from the coaches.
The games near the end, drag on forever.
These games have little flow, because of all the fouls called and all the timeouts.
Plus, we have the refs staring at monitors for big chunks of time.
None of this adds to making for a better game.
no TV!
I wish there weren't so many timeouts. Take some away from the coaches.
The games near the end, drag on forever.
These games have little flow, because of all the fouls called and all the timeouts.
Plus, we have the refs staring at monitors for big chunks of time.
None of this adds to making for a better game.
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I'm very excited to move men's college hoop to 30 seconds.
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I hate when a team calls a timeout....they resume play for 30 seconds then there's an immediate TV timeout....
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All the stoppages also make it easier for the best players to play 30+ minutes, which also tends to cut down on scoring. IIRC, the downgrade from most team's starters to bench players typically opens up the game more on the offensive end.rodfromcranston wrote:There are the TV timeouts, which are now taken, even when there's
no TV!
I wish there weren't so many timeouts. Take some away from the coaches.
The games near the end, drag on forever.
These games have little flow, because of all the fouls called and all the timeouts.
Plus, we have the refs staring at monitors for big chunks of time.
None of this adds to making for a better game.
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In the 60's and 70's most starter played 40 minutes unless there was foul trouble or the
game was a blowout.
game was a blowout.
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Re: Slightly OT: 30-Second Shot Clock?
Greenwell, not sure that applies to us.
Our best scoring unit is the freshmen and sophs, plus either Gil or TJ.
When our bench comes in, we struggle to score.
I guess that's true for most teams, especially in our conference.
It would be nice, if we could keep our starters in the entire first half, but usually one or two of them get 2 fouls pretty early, and have to sit, which messes up the offensive flow.
Our best scoring unit is the freshmen and sophs, plus either Gil or TJ.
When our bench comes in, we struggle to score.
I guess that's true for most teams, especially in our conference.
It would be nice, if we could keep our starters in the entire first half, but usually one or two of them get 2 fouls pretty early, and have to sit, which messes up the offensive flow.
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I definitely think the starters are more talented offensive than the bench guys for most teams, URI included. However, after the first 5 to 10 minutes of a game, it's no longer usually the best five from each team out there. You typically have some bench guys mixed in with the starters on both teams. Some guys are dealing with fatigue at that point, some guys are getting warmed back up after sitting following the pregame, there could be match-up issues, etc. The resulting sort of messiness favors offense over defense to me.rambone 78 wrote:Greenwell, not sure that applies to us.
Our best scoring unit is the freshmen and sophs, plus either Gil or TJ.
When our bench comes in, we struggle to score.
I guess that's true for most teams, especially in our conference.
It would be nice, if we could keep our starters in the entire first half, but usually one or two of them get 2 fouls pretty early, and have to sit, which messes up the offensive flow.
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