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APR Issues in the NCAA Tournament Field - PC & Uconn cited

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:06 pm
by bressler3south
Well, hate to rain on someone's parade……
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... tudy-shows

Re: APR Issues in the NCAA Tournament Field - PC & Uconn cit

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:28 pm
by ATPTourFan
This APR stuff keeps Dan up at night.

Luckily URI basketball has posted a perfect 1000 APR last year and has kept all active players eligible this year.

Re: APR Issues in the NCAA Tournament Field - PC & Uconn cit

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:50 pm
by bressler3south
JUST IN CASE YOU'VE MISSED THE EIGHT:

Teams in this year's field that would be subject to NCAA-imposed sanctions that could keep them from postseason play are: Cal Poly (925), Coastal Carolina (921), North Carolina Central (903), Oklahoma State (928), Providence (915), Texas Southern (900), Connecticut (897) and Oregon (918).

Beginning with 2012-13 championships, teams must earn a minimum 900 four-year APR or a 930 average over the most recent two years to be eligible for NCAA championships.

In 2014, seven teams fell below 925, compared with three teams in 2013. The APR was developed by the NCAA in 2004 as a way to improve graduation rates. It is a four-year rolling average of academic performance that takes into account academic eligibility and retention.

Tsk, tsk, tsk….

Re: APR Issues in the NCAA Tournament Field - PC & Uconn cit

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:43 pm
by The Dude
PC a safety school? NO…say it isn't so…first a catholic child molester as a mascot, then criminals getting investigated, and now low level IQs…the sky is falling!…AND the A10 got more bids to the big dance. Inconceivable! Inconceivable! Can't wait to hear the PC fan arguments now…priceless. :P

Re: APR Issues in the NCAA Tournament Field - PC & Uconn cit

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:11 am
by TruePoint
The Dude wrote:PC a safety school? NO…say it isn't so…first a catholic child molester as a mascot, then criminals getting investigated, and now low level IQs…the sky is falling!…AND the A10 got more bids to the big dance. Inconceivable! Inconceivable! Can't wait to hear the PC fan arguments now…priceless. :P
The idea that Providence is a prestigious school is believed only by people who went to Providence or didn't go to college at all. It definitely doesn't have that reputation in the professional world or among academics.

Re: APR Issues in the NCAA Tournament Field - PC & Uconn cit

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:16 am
by rambone 78
Providence is a prestigious school in the minds of the alums in the GA, and not much anywhere else.

Of course, in RI, that means a lot.

Re: APR Issues in the NCAA Tournament Field - PC & Uconn cit

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:16 am
by peeps4life
TruePoint wrote:
The Dude wrote:PC a safety school? NO…say it isn't so…first a catholic child molester as a mascot, then criminals getting investigated, and now low level IQs…the sky is falling!…AND the A10 got more bids to the big dance. Inconceivable! Inconceivable! Can't wait to hear the PC fan arguments now…priceless. :P
The idea that Providence is a prestigious school is believed only by people who went to Providence or didn't go to college at all. It definitely doesn't have that reputation in the professional world or among academics.
that has definitely not been my experience.

Re: APR Issues in the NCAA Tournament Field - PC & Uconn cit

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:18 am
by TruePoint
peeps4life wrote:
TruePoint wrote:
The Dude wrote:PC a safety school? NO…say it isn't so…first a catholic child molester as a mascot, then criminals getting investigated, and now low level IQs…the sky is falling!…AND the A10 got more bids to the big dance. Inconceivable! Inconceivable! Can't wait to hear the PC fan arguments now…priceless. :P
The idea that Providence is a prestigious school is believed only by people who went to Providence or didn't go to college at all. It definitely doesn't have that reputation in the professional world or among academics.
that has definitely not been my experience.
Where?

Re: APR Issues in the NCAA Tournament Field - PC & Uconn cit

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:20 am
by peeps4life
big pharma and med device companies. highly regarded for life sciences.

Re: APR Issues in the NCAA Tournament Field - PC & Uconn cit

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:28 am
by TruePoint
peeps4life wrote:big pharma and med device companies. highly regarded for life sciences.
I was talking more in terms of location. A lot of our clients are med tech companies in the 128, and I haven't met a lot of PC alums there. In fairness, though, we are generally dealing with management and not the talent at those companies. I know in our firm we have a bunch of Holy Cross alums, but no PC grads that I know of.

I'm also not trying to say that a PC degree is looked down upon, but the way some PC people talk about the school is like it is Yale or something.

Re: APR Issues in the NCAA Tournament Field - PC & Uconn cit

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:37 am
by peeps4life
not yale... more like villanova or a poor man's BC.

Re: APR Issues in the NCAA Tournament Field - PC & Uconn cit

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:41 am
by TruePoint
Switching back to the thread topic for a second, not shocking that PC would be on the list when you consider all of the defections that they've had over the last several years. I get the sense that the guys that are there now are expected to do their work.

Re: APR Issues in the NCAA Tournament Field - PC & Uconn cit

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:52 am
by bigappleram
nationally it has nowhere near the rep of either of those schools. holy cross is a better comparison. those schools are national brand name schools, in major cities...its not even close.

Re: APR Issues in the NCAA Tournament Field - PC & Uconn cit

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:21 pm
by peeps4life
actually... villanova is an excellent comp for pc.

but... you can pretend it isn't.

not to mention that i didn't compare bc and pc on the same level. couldn't have been more clear calling pc a poor man's bc.

Re: APR Issues in the NCAA Tournament Field - PC & Uconn cit

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:33 pm
by bigappleram
Not pretending pal, have lived outside of RI for 20 years and I know I have a better read on national perception than you do.

Re: APR Issues in the NCAA Tournament Field - PC & Uconn cit

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:38 pm
by peeps4life
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandrevie ... ties-north

no you don't. similar lists have existed for over 10 years and annually nova and pc go back and forth.

Re: APR Issues in the NCAA Tournament Field - PC & Uconn cit

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:49 pm
by bigappleram
we were never talking about analytics, we are talking perception not reality. i dont doubt the quality of education is similar, but the level of awareness and the brand of Nova is much greater than PCs is my pov.

Re: APR Issues in the NCAA Tournament Field - PC & Uconn cit

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:54 pm
by bressler3south
LaSalle…
PC….
Suffolk Law….
Season Ticket Holder…..
The House……
Avoid the Federales….
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!
PC is SUPERIOR.
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Re: APR Issues in the NCAA Tournament Field - PC & Uconn cit

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:37 pm
by TruePoint
bressler3south wrote:LaSalle…
PC….
Suffolk Law….
Season Ticket Holder…..
The House……
Avoid the Federales….
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!
PC is SUPERIOR.
:lol: :roll: :lol: :roll: :lol: :roll: :lol: :roll: :lol: :roll: :lol: :roll: :lol: :roll: :lol: :roll: :lol: :roll: :lol: :roll: :lol: :roll: :lol: :roll: :lol: :roll: :lol: :roll: :lol:
I want to put this post in my wall

Re: APR Issues in the NCAA Tournament Field - PC & Uconn cit

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 7:12 am
by seanmc94