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Victor Bermudez '13 JC (Verbal to Texas State)

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:45 pm
by Billyboy78
He's a 6'3" SG playing JC in Wyoming. Looks like we've offered.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruit ... dez-143827

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:55 pm
by BFC
14.1 ppg, 43.7 FG%, 46.4 3FG%, 70.4 FT%, 4.7 rpg, 2.4 apg

http://stats.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2012 ... rmudezjc7u

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:10 pm
by rodfromcranston
Rather have Williams. This guy had nobody recruiting him out of high school.
He's from Las Vegas. Makes no sense. 7.7 PPG last year?

Victor Bermudez 6-3 shooting guard
University Park Academy Prep Houston Texas
Years of eligibility: years

Recruiting Notes: Bermudez is another interesting case. He played his senior year of basketball in 2009-10 with Chris McCall at Cheyenne high school in Nevada. He did not get a lot of D-1 interest so he went to a prep school in Houston Texas, with a fellow Cheyenne teammate. Bermudez has finished at U. Park Academy and is d-1 eligible. Since October he has telling people and posting on Twitter that he intends on playing D-1 ball at Montana State with McCall and Davion Pearson.

Player Summary: Bermudez is a very athletic smooth player who is a very good shooter especially in transition game. He can pull up on the run and hit the three point or mid range shot on a dime, or take it to the whole. Scouts love his length and size and he is projected to be a very good defender at the D-1 level.
2011-2012: Victor saw action in all 32 games for the Generals, starting 14 contests. Victor averaged 7.7 points per game for the Generals while shooting 42% from the field and 40% from beyond the arc. Hitting 49 three-point shots on the year, Victor is the leading shooter returner to the Generals. Victor averaged 2.9 rebounds per game, and dished out 1.47 assists per contest. Victor scored a season high 15 points against Dawson College. High School: Bermudez at University Park Academy Prep in Houston. At University Park Academy, Victor averaged 15 points, 4 rebounds, and 4 assists per game. During his high school playing days at Cheyenne High School in Las Vegas, Bermudez showed his sharp shooting ability by raining in 50% from the field, 88% from the line, and an impressive 48% from beyond the arc while averaging 9 points per game.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:37 am
by 3wisemen
Shooting, Rod. Shooting. He's at 46.4 percent from 3? That's outstanding. And considering URI is at 32.8 percent and tied for 228th in the nation, I would say they need it badly.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:51 am
by rodfromcranston
So? Who the hell is he playing against? Williams is a 6'6" guard ,who can do it all.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:16 am
by SGreenwell
rodfromcranston wrote:So? Who the hell is he playing against? Williams is a 6'6" guard ,who can do it all.
46 percent from 3 is a pretty decent mark even if you're in the Yi Jianlian Chair Invitational. For comparison's sake, Munford shot 37 percent, and it looks like Williams shot 39 percent last year at CCRI. Jimmy Baron's two best years were 45 and 47 percent. I doubt he would hit at THAT high of a rate - you expect a little bit of drop off at the very least from juco to D1 - but if his role is just "stand in corner and shoot 3s," then NBA guys like Bruce Bowen have shown that it can be an easily repeatable skill if you have a certain base level of talent.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:35 am
by 3wisemen
rodfromcranston wrote:So? Who the hell is he playing against? Williams is a 6'6" guard ,who can do it all.
The scouting report also says he projects as a good defender. Especially at that end of the floor, I'd much rather see 6-3 and 6-3 in the backcourt next season than 5-10 and 5-10.
And Williams isn't playing against the iron either, Rod. CCRI is an NJCAA Division II school.
Bottom line, nobody has banged the drum harder on Hurley's behalf on this board than you. Now you're going to turn around and imply URI is offering a bum who can't play?

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:31 am
by rodfromcranston
I'm going to go out on the limb and say this is as bogus as us recruiting Hallice Cooke, and the reports that show us involved with
John Severe. There have been several other people mentied here, who we were never remotely involved with.
Besides, the information on Twitter came from out friend, 12345, who has been 99% wrong on recruiting.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:48 am
by sf2010
Haha it's funny that this came from 12345.

In general though I'd be fine with this signing, I'll leave it up to people who know a helluva lot more than me about basketball (ie Hurleys/Preston/Carr) to determine whether this kid or Williams would be better. I like Williams because of his size, but from a raw numbers perspective Bermudez seems to be a better shooter. And there's no denying, we need more shooters on this team.

As others have mentioned, level of competition isn't all that important with respect to 3PT%, still the same distance away and the hoop is still 10ft high...

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:10 am
by BFC
sf2010 wrote:Haha it's funny that this came from 12345.
It came from Rivals.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:12 am
by 3wisemen
And the stats are legit. He's 15th in NJCAA Division I in 3-point shooting.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:33 am
by rodfromcranston
Rivals is so full of shit, it isn't funny. I cancelled my subscription, because
Alex Kline doesn't know anything.
They had us involved with two players, that we weren't remotely interested in.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:22 pm
by Bos8
Alex Davis?

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:28 pm
by SGreenwell
Bos8 wrote:Alex Davis?
heh, It's weird that when I was trying to think of JC transfers, he immediately popped into my mind. Maybe I'm mistaken, but Baron didn't seem to ever use many of them. Darrell Harris was a juco transfer, right? And that very, very large (meaning round) center as well.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:28 pm
by Gonebarongone
rodfromcranston wrote:Rivals is so full of shit, it isn't funny. I cancelled my subscription, because
Alex Kline doesn't know anything.
They had us involved with two players, Dan told me he wasn't remotely intersted in.
Good thing DH is talking about specific recruits to fans/boosters. The NCAA loves that.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:35 pm
by rodfromcranston
Go take a good one!
It's a private conversation. Got it?
I've never know a coach NOT to talk about specific recruits
to people.
Beside, READ THE POST! I said two guys he WASN"T recruiting.
Stalker.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:39 pm
by Gonebarongone
rodfromcranston wrote:Go take a good one!
It's a private conversation. Got it?
I've never know a coach NOT to talk about specific recruits
to people.
Beside, READ THE POST! I said two guys he WASN"T recruiting.
Stalker.
Oh...that's how it works? Private conversations don't count....THAT YOU POST ON A MESSAGE BOARD! Maybe you should keep them private while he makes you grilled cheese and chips for your late night talks.

And, prospects are prospects. Don't talk about them. That would be an excuse anyone could use for a guy that doesn't sign a NLI.

Either you or DH is a dope for talking about it. Maybe both.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:50 pm
by rodfromcranston
Hey Stalker,
Jerry D used to go on Cordischi's show and take
questions on specific recruits he was looking at.
Who's the dope?
I didn't mention any names, so why don't you report me.
Guess you've never been around AAU games, where coaches are yaking all the time about who they're looking at and
which player has this or that going for him?
I've sat with plenty of coaches at these, and there's no big secrets.
Sorry you're just one of those who knows everything, but knows nothing in reality.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:50 pm
by sf2010
I'm working on a theory...

Rod and GBG are actually the same person going back and forth for our amusement. Anybody ever seen the two of them in the same place?

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:55 pm
by rodfromcranston
I love it. This guy follows me around the board, no end.
Watch him say he knows Brittany Griner is a woman,
because it was on a gamecast.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:59 pm
by Gonebarongone
rodfromcranston wrote:I love it. This guy follows me around the board, no end.
Watch him say he knows Brittany Griner is a woman,
because it was on a gamecast.
You know what. Just keep on doing what you do, rod. It's like talking to a three year old. I read the recruiting board every day and maybe this is my first post. The reason I posted is that coaches aren't allowed to talk about prospects. Period. So, enjoy your private sessions with DH. Just don't post it. It's probably pie in the sky to think you would know better. The guy in charge of the program making a ton of dough? That's another story.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:05 pm
by rodfromcranston
Find that rule. I just cited you a very pubic instance, and you just kite over it!
For years, I've gotten acurate news from
people around this and other programs.
Do you think it's because nobody talks about anything?
I forgot, you know more than anyone else.
You know the Unknown Soldier.
Talking to you is like talking to a fire hydrant.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:16 pm
by Gonebarongone
rodfromcranston wrote:Hey Stalker,
Jerry D used to go on Cordischi's show and take
questions on specific recruits he was looking at.
Who's the dope?
I didn't mention any names, so why don't you report me.
Guess you've never been around AAU games, where coaches are yaking all the time about who they're looking at and
which player has this or that going for him?
I've sat with plenty of coaches at these, and there's no big secrets.
Sorry you're just one of those who knows everything, but knows nothing in reality.
I guess everything you see must be within the rules. Dope. And, the NCAA rule book hasn't grown by 100x since Jerry D was around. Jerry D? Are you for real?

It took one millisecond to find a blurb from an article:

Because of NCAA rules, Kennedy can’t talk about specific players in recruiting, but he said that it’s hard not to notice that TCU’s presence in the Big 12 has helped them. However, he also said A&M’s move to the SEC has helped him as well.

Kelvin Sampson is probably never getting a college head job again because of stupid rules. Nobody said it was a good rule. Or that no one breaks it. You just might want to think about BROADCASTING IT ON A MESSAGE BOARD.

You were probably like the guy in Goodfellas that bought all of the showy stuff after the Lufthansa heist. Haha.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:22 pm
by rodfromcranston
This from a Yahoo article:
"If you don't think that coaches are talking with friends, colleagues, former coworkers and others about guys they're recruiting, you're kidding yourself"
"The NCAA doesn't allow coaches to talk about specific players before they've signed letters of intent. If it doesn't sound like much of a big deal, that's because in a lot of ways it really isn't. This stuff happens all the time."
Then again, you don't deal in the real world, do you? Got it, clown?
Kelvin Sampson got fired for multiple violations of contact WITH RECRUITS. Got the difference? DUH?
Nice ethnic slur, too. What has Goodfellas got to do with recruiting?

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:23 pm
by twisted3829
I think he can say were not involved with someone, that's not breaking rules. He can't say we're recruit Joe Smith and we're watching him and offered and doing x, y, and z with him.

Also why both of you guys quit egging each other on and just ignore each other, you're acting like little kids rather than the grown men (or women if that is the case) you are.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:28 pm
by ATPTourFan
Yeah, seriously. You guys are ridiculous.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:30 pm
by rodfromcranston
Absolutely, but it makes for more views.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:30 pm
by Gonebarongone
rodfromcranston wrote:This from a Yahoo article:
"If you don't think that coaches are talking with friends, colleagues, former coworkers and others about guys they're recruiting, you're kidding yourself"
"The NCAA doesn't allow coaches to talk about specific players before they've signed letters of intent. If it doesn't sound like much of a big deal, that's because in a lot of ways it really isn't. This stuff happens all the time."
Then again, you don't deal in the real world, do you? Got it, clown?
Kelvin Sampson got fired for multiple violations of contact WITH RECRUITS. Got the difference? DUH?
Nice ethnic slur, too. What has Goodfellas got to do with recruiting?
Oh...so it is a rule? I guess, along with you being the great arbiter of message boards, you know know which are rules and which the NCAA doesn't care about. Got it. Have you seen the last 20 years of the NCAA? They LOVE to get into people's business about stupid stuff.

Maybe you should keep on broadcasting. We'll get a coach who can keep a halftime lead sooner than later.

What ethnic slur? The Goodfellas reference has to do with someone who can't keep his mouth shut.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:37 pm
by rodfromcranston
You've been roundly trashed by everyone on this board for your hard on against Hurley and Munford.
You are clearly not a URI fan, and you clearly know little about basketball, except what you gleen
from gamecast and some statistics.
Everyone has your number from post one to now.
You seem like a jealous petulent child, because someone actually talks to real people.
You snottily mention it in every post.
Grow up, and stop actling like my four year old granddaughter "I'm gonna tell on my sister!"
Pathetic!

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:41 pm
by Gonebarongone
ATPTourFan wrote:Yeah, seriously. You guys are ridiculous.
Fair enough. Didn't think it was a crazy point to make on a recruiting board. Oh well.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:12 pm
by BFC
Hey GBG, I heard Rod's posting some really pro-Hurley stuff in the Technical Support forum, go get him.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:13 pm
by Ramulous
Rod can be opinionated and blunt to the point of rudeness at times.....and GBG seems to enjoy pushing his buttons and following him around to instigate him.....maybe a truce should be declared....or marshal law....

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:20 pm
by rodfromcranston
Geez, it's like having my ex-wife following me around, nagging at me all the time.
How about if I just declare irreconcileable differences?
Oh, and thanks for the kind words.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:35 pm
by Gonebarongone
Ramulous wrote:Rod can be opinionated and blunt to the point of rudeness at times.....and GBG seems to enjoy pushing his buttons and following him around to instigate him.....maybe a truce should be declared....or marshal law....
I grew up with three brothers and we (still, despite many kids among us) enjoy a good back and forth. It's in my stubborn, Irish DNA, I guess. I don't mind a good, heated battle. Yertle the Turtle just needs to be knocked off the stack every so often. Trying to stay away from imagined stereotypes, so I used Dr. Seuss there instead of Goodfellas. Of course, may people think Yertle was about Hitler. Not me, of course. I would never.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:42 pm
by rodfromcranston
Yes, well this Sicilian, always loves to fight.
It's not stood me in good stead all my life.
In the words of Tom Petty, "I won't back down".
You're just another bully to be squashed.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:02 pm
by Matunuck
That was entertaining. I side with Rod!

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:06 pm
by rodfromcranston
Me too! So does Arthur, my Dogue, Dora, the dopey Neo, my three cats,Chumley, Pacman and Derek, and my two granddaughters.
Not sure about by daughter, though. She's like GBG. Seems I can never do anything right, according to her.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:22 pm
by Gonebarongone
rodfromcranston wrote:Me too! So does Arthur, my Dogue, Dora, the dopey Neo, my three cats,Chumley, Pacman and Derek, and my two granddaughters.
Not sure about by daughter, though. She's like GBG. Seems I can never do anything right, according to her.
Mark Twain once said, "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect"

Have a great night everyone.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:27 pm
by rodfromcranston
Yes, but they're mostly the four legged type, of majority.
Time for me to go and cook dinner for the two legged variety.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:48 pm
by Ramulous
I remember a long-lost poster who would rather be right than in the majority.......

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:00 pm
by rodfromcranston
I remember that guy! He vanished, like Andre Scott did.
Kind of different fellow, but always interesting.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:47 pm
by Ramulous
I heard he ran away with the NorwegianGal......

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:15 pm
by rodfromcranston
I heard Lamar introduced him to one of the Kardashian sisters.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:51 pm
by URI96
sf2010 wrote:Haha it's funny that this came from 12345.

In general though I'd be fine with this signing, I'll leave it up to people who know a helluva lot more than me about basketball (ie Hurleys/Preston/Carr) to determine whether this kid or Williams would be better. I like Williams because of his size, but from a raw numbers perspective Bermudez seems to be a better shooter. And there's no denying, we need more shooters on this team.

As others have mentioned, level of competition isn't all that important with respect to 3PT%, still the same distance away and the hoop is still 10ft high...
I wonder if that's the combination he has on his luggage.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:52 pm
by Bos8
SGreenwell wrote:
Bos8 wrote:Alex Davis?
heh, It's weird that when I was trying to think of JC transfers, he immediately popped into my mind. Maybe I'm mistaken, but Baron didn't seem to ever use many of them. Darrell Harris was a juco transfer, right? And that very, very large (meaning round) center as well.
Jason Francis

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:02 pm
by UCH21377
Jason was a BIG dude. My son and I met him; seemed like a nice kid. Should have been right tackle on the football team.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:28 am
by Rhody Guy
Loved Jay Francis as a person. He did try out for DE for the pats unsuccessfully after graduating.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:58 am
by SmartyBarrett
URI96 wins for the Spaceballs reference.

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:27 am
by BFC

Re: Victor Bermudez '13 JC

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:09 am
by ramfan85
Rhody Guy wrote:Loved Jay Francis as a person. He did try out for DE for the pats unsuccessfully after graduating.
If he wanted to play for the Pats, he should have gone to Rutgers.