Re: Assistants under Coach Miller 2022-23
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:33 pm
I know it's tough to believe because we exist in a constant state of doom on here, but it's also possible for it to get better!
Haha yes! It's very important work being done over there at Rhody Rehab!
Kenny Johnson: Jaden House, David Green, Zek Montgomery, Josaphat Bilau, Tyson Brown, Connor Dubsky, Ben Hammond, Tyonne Farrelltheblueram wrote: ↑1 month agoSo let's call the all the assistant coaches out. Who has gotten which recruits:Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 month agoHe brought our 2 best players, House and Green here last year. And he got our only 2 high school recruits coming this year. It can get worse.4Diffs wrote: ↑1 month ago Different world than it used to be and it lessens the importance of having an assistant coach that is a great recruiter. I thought that is fairly obvious by the result of the first two classes he helped bring in. Were any of them, other than the kid from GW who did not work out, his recruits or anything remotely special? Good for Cooley to bring him home to his local recruiting routes, but I fail to see how this is any crippling blow for a program that is as the bottom of the A10. Like can it get worse? Jeez I hope not.
Bur I will say this, what the f is up with the timing? Why was this dragged out for three weeks? There was no need for that. it looks like the higher ups at Georgetown had to be convinced to sign off on this hire and it took some time. Not a good sign for Mr. Johnson, I would not go someplace that the person hiring me had to plead for 3 weeks to upper management to sign on to.
Austin Carroll
Christen Cunningham
Kenny Johnson
Ben Sander
Duane Woodward
Heard Uri is hot on trail of David Coit from Northern Illinois if that means anything. Maybe to protect themselves if Hammond leaves. Averaged 20 points a game so would definitely be a nice piece pick up.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 month agoI still think there's a good chance he comes here.PeterRamTime wrote: ↑1 month ago . of the last couple days Ben has liked or reposted anything that has to do with him coming here.
He's liked tweets that say stuff like "can't wait to see you play at Rhody!"
That and how on every broadcast they talked about his deep connection with Archie Miller.
The question I have is why would his father call you instead of (or in addition to?) Rhody Vault? You simply retweeted it. You didn't actually start the rumor, so why would he blast you about it? I don't doubt that it happened, just that it seems directed to the wrong person.
You're asking people to try and get inside the mind of Tony Bergeronsteviep123 wrote: ↑1 month agoThe question I have is why would his father call you instead of (or in addition to?) Rhody Vault? You simply retweeted it. You didn't actually start the rumor, so why would he blast you about it? I don't doubt that it happened, just that it seems directed to the wrong person.
Scott,
Are you really doling this? Who cares if he brought in our best players. The team was terrible and those players are not anything special. If they were they would have won more then 12 games. Kind of like being the tallest guy among midgets. Somebody has to be the tallest and somebody has to be the best player on a terrible team. I do not think it is a big loss. You do because he brought in our best players. OK. We will agree to disagree.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 month agoKenny Johnson: Jaden House, David Green, Zek Montgomery, Josaphat Bilau, Tyson Brown, Connor Dubsky, Ben Hammond, Tyonne Farrelltheblueram wrote: ↑1 month agoSo let's call the all the assistant coaches out. Who has gotten which recruits:Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 month ago
He brought our 2 best players, House and Green here last year. And he got our only 2 high school recruits coming this year. It can get worse.
Austin Carroll
Christen Cunningham
Kenny Johnson
Ben Sander
Duane Woodward
Duane Woodward: Cam Estevez, Brandon Weston, Luis Kortwright, Jeremy Foumena, Rory Stewart
Austin Carroll: David Fuchs
Christen Cunningham: Always Wright
Blueram asked a question. I answered it.4Diffs wrote: ↑1 month agoAre you really doling this? Who cares if he brought in our best players. The team was terrible and those players are not anything special. If they were they would have won more then 12 games. Kind of like being the tallest guy among midgets. Somebody has to be the tallest and somebody has to be the best player on a terrible team. I do not think it is a big loss. You do because he brought in our best players. OK. We will agree to disagree.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 month agoKenny Johnson: Jaden House, David Green, Zek Montgomery, Josaphat Bilau, Tyson Brown, Connor Dubsky, Ben Hammond, Tyonne Farrelltheblueram wrote: ↑1 month ago
So let's call the all the assistant coaches out. Who has gotten which recruits:
Austin Carroll
Christen Cunningham
Kenny Johnson
Ben Sander
Duane Woodward
Duane Woodward: Cam Estevez, Brandon Weston, Luis Kortwright, Jeremy Foumena, Rory Stewart
Austin Carroll: David Fuchs
Christen Cunningham: Always Wright
bigappleram wrote: ↑1 month ago Mason has a pretty good PG Baraka Okojie who just finished his FR year.
He torched us and seems to be slotted in as their starter next year. So much so Polite the veteran PG transferred out. I don't think that is a likely landing spot either if he wanted to go elsewhere.
If not, maybe we can engineer a tradebigappleram wrote: ↑1 month agobigappleram wrote: ↑1 month ago Mason has a pretty good PG Baraka Okojie who just finished his FR year.
He torched us and seems to be slotted in as their starter next year. So much so Polite the veteran PG transferred out. I don't think that is a likely landing spot either if he wanted to go elsewhere.
Anddddd.....Okojie just entered the Portal.
I pray that is a coincidence.
A guy on twitter who covers them says there will be news by tomorrow night. We'll see.
Rhody. That is a good idea. Since the players are pros and there is no loyalty anymore,let’s makes trades part of the situation. Think about how many pages that would be on kb. I’m trying to figure out how we work in future draft picks or future considerations.RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑1 month agoIf not, maybe we can engineer a tradebigappleram wrote: ↑1 month agobigappleram wrote: ↑1 month ago Mason has a pretty good PG Baraka Okojie who just finished his FR year.
He torched us and seems to be slotted in as their starter next year. So much so Polite the veteran PG transferred out. I don't think that is a likely landing spot either if he wanted to go elsewhere.
Anddddd.....Okojie just entered the Portal.
I pray that is a coincidence.
Do you think Duane, Austin and Cunningham are the best we can do?Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 month agoBlueram asked a question. I answered it.4Diffs wrote: ↑1 month agoAre you really doling this? Who cares if he brought in our best players. The team was terrible and those players are not anything special. If they were they would have won more then 12 games. Kind of like being the tallest guy among midgets. Somebody has to be the tallest and somebody has to be the best player on a terrible team. I do not think it is a big loss. You do because he brought in our best players. OK. We will agree to disagree.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 month ago
Kenny Johnson: Jaden House, David Green, Zek Montgomery, Josaphat Bilau, Tyson Brown, Connor Dubsky, Ben Hammond, Tyonne Farrell
Duane Woodward: Cam Estevez, Brandon Weston, Luis Kortwright, Jeremy Foumena, Rory Stewart
Austin Carroll: David Fuchs
Christen Cunningham: Always Wright
Anyway, we'll see who this staff gets. Supposedly we have more money, so we'll see if Duane and Austin will deliver. My guess is that Duane, Austin and Cunningham all move up a seat. Let's see who they get as compared to the guys Kenny got.
The reason I assume Cunningham will be promoted is that while Kenny has been recruiting for Georgetown, nobody new has been recruiting for us. If you look at some of the guys we've reached out to in the portal, Cunningham is the one following them. That could change, but right now it appears that Cunningham is recruiting.McRam wrote: ↑1 month agoDo you think Duane, Austin and Cunningham are the best we can do?Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 month agoBlueram asked a question. I answered it.4Diffs wrote: ↑1 month ago
Are you really doling this? Who cares if he brought in our best players. The team was terrible and those players are not anything special. If they were they would have won more then 12 games. Kind of like being the tallest guy among midgets. Somebody has to be the tallest and somebody has to be the best player on a terrible team. I do not think it is a big loss. You do because he brought in our best players. OK. We will agree to disagree.
Anyway, we'll see who this staff gets. Supposedly we have more money, so we'll see if Duane and Austin will deliver. My guess is that Duane, Austin and Cunningham all move up a seat. Let's see who they get as compared to the guys Kenny got.
No, it would be a dissapointment if it was, it would be similar to an assistant lineup Cox would put togetherMcRam wrote: ↑1 month agoDo you think Duane, Austin and Cunningham are the best we can do?Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 month agoBlueram asked a question. I answered it.4Diffs wrote: ↑1 month ago
Are you really doling this? Who cares if he brought in our best players. The team was terrible and those players are not anything special. If they were they would have won more then 12 games. Kind of like being the tallest guy among midgets. Somebody has to be the tallest and somebody has to be the best player on a terrible team. I do not think it is a big loss. You do because he brought in our best players. OK. We will agree to disagree.
Anyway, we'll see who this staff gets. Supposedly we have more money, so we'll see if Duane and Austin will deliver. My guess is that Duane, Austin and Cunningham all move up a seat. Let's see who they get as compared to the guys Kenny got.
Billyboy,Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 month agoKenny Johnson: Jaden House, David Green, Zek Montgomery, Josaphat Bilau, Tyson Brown, Connor Dubsky, Ben Hammond, Tyonne Farrelltheblueram wrote: ↑1 month agoSo let's call the all the assistant coaches out. Who has gotten which recruits:Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 month ago
He brought our 2 best players, House and Green here last year. And he got our only 2 high school recruits coming this year. It can get worse.
Austin Carroll
Christen Cunningham
Kenny Johnson
Ben Sander
Duane Woodward
Duane Woodward: Cam Estevez, Brandon Weston, Luis Kortwright, Jeremy Foumena, Rory Stewart
Austin Carroll: David Fuchs
Christen Cunningham: Always Wright
Kenny was the lead on all three. People will argue that the results weren't good, and they're right. But Kenny got us 11 players under tough circumstances with URI coming off some bad seasons and with him having finances affecting who he could recruit. Duane got us 5, Austin got us 1 and Christen got us 1. Imagine what he could have got if we were good with no financial restraints, being known as one of the top recruiters in the country? He's probably frustrated as hell not being able to recruit who he wants here because of the current landscape. He's going to kill it at Georgetown.ramster wrote: ↑1 month agoBillyboy,Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 month agoKenny Johnson: Jaden House, David Green, Zek Montgomery, Josaphat Bilau, Tyson Brown, Connor Dubsky, Ben Hammond, Tyonne Farrelltheblueram wrote: ↑1 month ago
So let's call the all the assistant coaches out. Who has gotten which recruits:
Austin Carroll
Christen Cunningham
Kenny Johnson
Ben Sander
Duane Woodward
Duane Woodward: Cam Estevez, Brandon Weston, Luis Kortwright, Jeremy Foumena, Rory Stewart
Austin Carroll: David Fuchs
Christen Cunningham: Always Wright
I know this breakdown is for this season’s roster but if I added in both years for Miller and this staff I’d add in Hutchinson, Tchikou and Brayon Freeman - do you know who the lead was for these 3 players? Would there be any more I’m missing? (Not including preferred walk-ons)
I agree BB losing KJ would be major, but not unsurmountable for our chances in 24-25.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 month agoKenny was the lead on all three. People will argue that the results weren't good, and they're right. But Kenny got us 11 players under tough circumstances with URI coming off some bad seasons and with him having finances affecting who he could recruit. Duane got us 5, Austin got us 1 and Christen got us 1. Imagine what he could have got if we were good with no financial restraints, being known as one of the top recruiters in the country? He's probably frustrated as hell not being able to recruit who he wants here because of the current landscape. He's going to kill it at Georgetown.ramster wrote: ↑1 month agoBillyboy,Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 month ago
Kenny Johnson: Jaden House, David Green, Zek Montgomery, Josaphat Bilau, Tyson Brown, Connor Dubsky, Ben Hammond, Tyonne Farrell
Duane Woodward: Cam Estevez, Brandon Weston, Luis Kortwright, Jeremy Foumena, Rory Stewart
Austin Carroll: David Fuchs
Christen Cunningham: Always Wright
I know this breakdown is for this season’s roster but if I added in both years for Miller and this staff I’d add in Hutchinson, Tchikou and Brayon Freeman - do you know who the lead was for these 3 players? Would there be any more I’m missing? (Not including preferred walk-ons)
TBDJersey77 wrote: ↑1 month agoI agree BB losing KJ would be major, but not unsurmountable for our chances in 24-25.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑1 month agoKenny was the lead on all three. People will argue that the results weren't good, and they're right. But Kenny got us 11 players under tough circumstances with URI coming off some bad seasons and with him having finances affecting who he could recruit. Duane got us 5, Austin got us 1 and Christen got us 1. Imagine what he could have got if we were good with no financial restraints, being known as one of the top recruiters in the country? He's probably frustrated as hell not being able to recruit who he wants here because of the current landscape. He's going to kill it at Georgetown.ramster wrote: ↑1 month ago
Billyboy,
I know this breakdown is for this season’s roster but if I added in both years for Miller and this staff I’d add in Hutchinson, Tchikou and Brayon Freeman - do you know who the lead was for these 3 players? Would there be any more I’m missing? (Not including preferred walk-ons)
If he moves on, we need to trust that Archie will make a solid hire.
Hopefully a strong recruiter with some immediate connections that can help us.
Sure, but it's the assistants who are in contact with the recruits and the ones that get the recruits to be interested enough to take visits. Once the recruits are on campus for a visit, then it becomes the head coach's job to close. But without the assistants, there aren't any recruits for the head to coach to close. So, it's a team effort with both the head coach and the assistants having important roles in landing a player.SGreenwell wrote: ↑1 month ago FWIW - Whether we're talking Miller, Hurley, Cox, Baron or other programs, I kind of think that assistants probably get too much of the credit for landing recruits. Ultimately, it's the head coach that's making "yes/no" decisions on recruits like 90, 95 percent of the time, and I sincerely doubt a recruit is committing without at least being comfortable with the head coach. I think assistants are probably important from the scouting and initial connection standpoint, but the buck ultimately stops with the top guy. (In hindsight, Hurley's ability as a talent evaluator is probably underrated - He's had missed like every does, but his batting average at UConn, URI and Wagner is pretty high. It's not just a matter of him coaching guys up and getting them to play hard.)
Teaching Steph Curry how to shoot free throws.