Re: 2012's Rebuild vs. Today
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 8:09 am
Thanks Drums, you too and family, plus all of KB.
Yep, makes sense when you are 3-0 and we are scoring.ATPTourFan wrote: ↑4 months ago Amazing that our offense is the best in conference games thus far.
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Impressive year over year. Just a stepping stone to the top of the conference.KevanBoyles wrote: ↑4 months ago Just a point that should be noted here, we’re halfway through the season and we have equaled the number of wins we had last year. We have nine wins in 16 games including a five game losing streak, where we were missing at least two of our best players. Last year, we had nine wins in 31 games. That’s 100% improvement this year to date in my book.
You are golden, great bet.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑4 months ago I bet an Archie hater on Twitter that we would win 14 or more games, so that's at the top of my list, haha. I was getting really worried after that 5 game streak, but I like our chances now!
And that Archie hater is supposedly a huge Rhody fan.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑4 months ago I bet an Archie hater on Twitter that we would win 14 or more games, so that's at the top of my list, haha. I was getting really worried after that 5 game streak, but I like our chances now!
We've obviously seen improvements offensively already. But it seems like we've actually regressed defensively. What's the solution? If we're going to make that huge jump, something has to change dramatically in that area.Jersey77 wrote: ↑4 months ago I am still thinking we win 5-6 more regular season games and finish 8-10 or 9-9.
That was pretty much what I predicted early on, and I would be okay with it.
As discussed previously our 3 freshmen (Dubs really hasn't played) have been a pleasant surprise and made a large impact. Keeping them along with some of our other core players will be imperative.
With all that said I expect a huge jump in year 3 for Archie, not unlike what Hurley did in 14-15.
That has to be corrected and we must expect and trust the staff to get that done.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months agoWe've obviously seen improvements offensively already. But it seems like we've actually regressed defensively. What's the solution? If we're going to make that huge jump, something has to change dramatically in that area.Jersey77 wrote: ↑4 months ago I am still thinking we win 5-6 more regular season games and finish 8-10 or 9-9.
That was pretty much what I predicted early on, and I would be okay with it.
As discussed previously our 3 freshmen (Dubs really hasn't played) have been a pleasant surprise and made a large impact. Keeping them along with some of our other core players will be imperative.
With all that said I expect a huge jump in year 3 for Archie, not unlike what Hurley did in 14-15.
The only way we make a big jump is if our guys learn how to defend or he gets some upgrades. If we bring back most of the team and add Hammond and Farrell, I think we will be better, but not an NCAA-level team. Which is what I expected when we hired him..I think we are a year behind, and we won't make that big jump until year 4 or 5. I hope i'm wrong..Jersey77 wrote: ↑4 months ago I am still thinking we win 5-6 more regular season games and finish 8-10 or 9-9.
That was pretty much what I predicted early on, and I would be okay with it.
As discussed previously our 3 freshmen (Dubs really hasn't played) have been a pleasant surprise and made a large impact. Keeping them along with some of our other core players will be imperative.
With all that said I expect a huge jump in year 3 for Archie, not unlike what Hurley did in 14-15.
Yeah Steve don't disagree, I didn't necessarily mean an NCAAT bid next season, just a big improvement.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑4 months agoThe only way we make a big jump is if our guys learn how to defend or he gets some upgrades. If we bring back most of the team and add Hammond and Farrell, I think we will be better, but not an NCAA-level team. Which is what I expected when we hired him..I think we are a year behind, and we won't make that big jump until year 4 or 5. I hope i'm wrong..Jersey77 wrote: ↑4 months ago I am still thinking we win 5-6 more regular season games and finish 8-10 or 9-9.
That was pretty much what I predicted early on, and I would be okay with it.
As discussed previously our 3 freshmen (Dubs really hasn't played) have been a pleasant surprise and made a large impact. Keeping them along with some of our other core players will be imperative.
With all that said I expect a huge jump in year 3 for Archie, not unlike what Hurley did in 14-15.
“A year behind” is where my mindset is currently, as well. Although, with the caveat of whether the rest of the A10 regresses, treads water or improves.Jersey77 wrote: ↑4 months agoYeah Steve don't disagree, I didn't necessarily mean an NCAAT bid next season, just a big improvement.steveystuds06 wrote: ↑4 months agoThe only way we make a big jump is if our guys learn how to defend or he gets some upgrades. If we bring back most of the team and add Hammond and Farrell, I think we will be better, but not an NCAA-level team. Which is what I expected when we hired him..I think we are a year behind, and we won't make that big jump until year 4 or 5. I hope i'm wrong..Jersey77 wrote: ↑4 months ago I am still thinking we win 5-6 more regular season games and finish 8-10 or 9-9.
That was pretty much what I predicted early on, and I would be okay with it.
As discussed previously our 3 freshmen (Dubs really hasn't played) have been a pleasant surprise and made a large impact. Keeping them along with some of our other core players will be imperative.
With all that said I expect a huge jump in year 3 for Archie, not unlike what Hurley did in 14-15.
Maybe a 20-win season or the NIT, anything more would be great.
Afterall, it took Hurley 5 years to go to the "Dance".
A guard like Jared Terrell. I think Cam will be fine. His production is really good for a freshman. We need an enforcer guard. A guy with tough swagger. One who can defend well. But what do I know? We scored 84 points last game and lost. Maybe just if these guys would play some defense we would win some games???????Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months ago If we're looking to add 2 or 3 players from the portal, what should we prioritize?
78, I would go for a seasoned PG to split time with Hammond. Beyond that and as far as I am concerned, it depends on if the sit out rule changes again and depends on who stays or goes at seasons end.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months ago If we're looking to add 2 or 3 players from the portal, what should we prioritize?
Not something I would have said a few years ago, but I don't think we can 'afford' someone like Jared Terrell.theblueram wrote: ↑4 months agoA guard like Jared Terrell. I think Cam will be fine. His production is really good for a freshman. We need an enforcer guard. A guy with tough swagger. One who can defend well.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months ago If we're looking to add 2 or 3 players from the portal, what should we prioritize?
Which leads to another question. Which guys on the current roster should Archie prioritize to keep here? Do we want both House and Luis back? Or just one of them? Do we want Zek back? Brandon? Etc?...Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑4 months ago78, I would go for a seasoned PG to split time with Hammond. Beyond that and as far as I am concerned, it depends on if the sit out rule changes again and depends on who stays or goes at seasons end.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months ago If we're looking to add 2 or 3 players from the portal, what should we prioritize?
I haven’t given next seasons needs much thought beyond the PG position yet.
That said, good off day question.
I also added some comments about the fact we scored 84 points and still lost BillyBoy. I think we have the offense, but these guys need to nut up on defense. They are playing wayyyyyy too soft on defense and getting wayyyyyy to many fouls.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months agoNot something I would have said a few years ago, but I don't think we can 'afford' someone like Jared Terrell.theblueram wrote: ↑4 months agoA guard like Jared Terrell. I think Cam will be fine. His production is really good for a freshman. We need an enforcer guard. A guy with tough swagger. One who can defend well.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months ago If we're looking to add 2 or 3 players from the portal, what should we prioritize?
No doubt. That's easily the biggest problem right now.theblueram wrote: ↑4 months agoI also added some comments about the fact we scored 84 points and still lost BillyBoy. I think we have the offense, but these guys need to nut up on defense. They are playing wayyyyyy too soft on defense and getting wayyyyyy to many fouls.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months agoNot something I would have said a few years ago, but I don't think we can 'afford' someone like Jared Terrell.theblueram wrote: ↑4 months ago
A guard like Jared Terrell. I think Cam will be fine. His production is really good for a freshman. We need an enforcer guard. A guy with tough swagger. One who can defend well.
I would want Louis, House, Fuchs, Cam, Foumena, Zek, Green back for sure. Probably need Brown to sub Foumena for now.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months agoWhich leads to another question. Which guys on the current roster should Archie prioritize to keep here? Do we want both House and Luis back? Or just one of them? Do we want Zek back? Brandon? Etc?...Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑4 months ago78, I would go for a seasoned PG to split time with Hammond. Beyond that and as far as I am concerned, it depends on if the sit out rule changes again and depends on who stays or goes at seasons end.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months ago If we're looking to add 2 or 3 players from the portal, what should we prioritize?
I haven’t given next seasons needs much thought beyond the PG position yet.
That said, good off day question.
I mean, we will be! We have two signed guys, and I would be shocked if we only had two scholarships available. Stewart would seem like a lock to leave, and from there, it's easy to imagine that there would be frank discussions between Miller and Dubsky, Brown, Weston, Wright, Bilau and Montgomery about their roles going forward. To me, the keepers are Green, House, Estevez, Kortright and Fuchs - the guys you expend some effort on keeping. I think they could be part of a decent team. The others, I think you roll the dice if they want to go, either because their health is very inconsistent or because their performance is. ETA: I am still not sure about Foumena - I'd probably keep him because of his size, but I think his defense is why he keeps getting yanked, and that's harder for me to get a feel for, a couple thousand miles away.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months ago If we're looking to add 2 or 3 players from the portal, what should we prioritize?
I would agree with those 7/8.theblueram wrote: ↑4 months agoI would want Louis, House, Fuchs, Cam, Foumena, Zek, Green back for sure. Probably need Brown to sub Foumena for now.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months agoWhich leads to another question. Which guys on the current roster should Archie prioritize to keep here? Do we want both House and Luis back? Or just one of them? Do we want Zek back? Brandon? Etc?...Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑4 months ago
78, I would go for a seasoned PG to split time with Hammond. Beyond that and as far as I am concerned, it depends on if the sit out rule changes again and depends on who stays or goes at seasons end.
I haven’t given next seasons needs much thought beyond the PG position yet.
That said, good off day question.
Those 8 players need to go through some special ops training and get some toughness in them. I would send that group to ranger school or something.Jersey77 wrote: ↑4 months agoI would agree with those 7/8.theblueram wrote: ↑4 months agoI would want Louis, House, Fuchs, Cam, Foumena, Zek, Green back for sure. Probably need Brown to sub Foumena for now.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months ago
Which leads to another question. Which guys on the current roster should Archie prioritize to keep here? Do we want both House and Luis back? Or just one of them? Do we want Zek back? Brandon? Etc?...
“Mr 78, you ask a lot of questions.”Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months agoWhich leads to another question. Which guys on the current roster should Archie prioritize to keep here? Do we want both House and Luis back? Or just one of them? Do we want Zek back? Brandon? Etc?...Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑4 months ago78, I would go for a seasoned PG to split time with Hammond. Beyond that and as far as I am concerned, it depends on if the sit out rule changes again and depends on who stays or goes at seasons end.Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months ago If we're looking to add 2 or 3 players from the portal, what should we prioritize?
I haven’t given next seasons needs much thought beyond the PG position yet.
That said, good off day question.
You’d take Weston back if he can turn things around, but you’re not sure about proven commodities in House and Kortright?Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑4 months ago“Mr 78, you ask a lot of questions.”Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months agoWhich leads to another question. Which guys on the current roster should Archie prioritize to keep here? Do we want both House and Luis back? Or just one of them? Do we want Zek back? Brandon? Etc?...Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑4 months ago
78, I would go for a seasoned PG to split time with Hammond. Beyond that and as far as I am concerned, it depends on if the sit out rule changes again and depends on who stays or goes at seasons end.
I haven’t given next seasons needs much thought beyond the PG position yet.
That said, good off day question.
- Roxann Rosanna-Danna.
An old Saturday Night Live ref in case you are too young to have watched it.
I’d take Zek back -IF he can start to turn things around. Otherwise, I would reconsider keeping him or not. The same applies to Weston, imho.
Not sure about others yet.
We're in serious trouble if we don't retain Cam and Fuchs. Although I believe they will stay, the thought of them leaving scares me.theblueram wrote: ↑4 months agoThose 8 players need to go through some special ops training and get some toughness in them. I would send that group to ranger school or something.Jersey77 wrote: ↑4 months agoI would agree with those 7/8.theblueram wrote: ↑4 months ago
I would want Louis, House, Fuchs, Cam, Foumena, Zek, Green back for sure. Probably need Brown to sub Foumena for now.
I was 18 when SNL debuted (is that a word? doesn't look right ) So yes I remember it well and I loved Gilda Radner. RIP.Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑4 months ago“Mr 78, you ask a lot of questions.”Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months agoWhich leads to another question. Which guys on the current roster should Archie prioritize to keep here? Do we want both House and Luis back? Or just one of them? Do we want Zek back? Brandon? Etc?...Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑4 months ago
78, I would go for a seasoned PG to split time with Hammond. Beyond that and as far as I am concerned, it depends on if the sit out rule changes again and depends on who stays or goes at seasons end.
I haven’t given next seasons needs much thought beyond the PG position yet.
That said, good off day question.
- Roxann Rosanna-Danna.
An old Saturday Night Live ref in case you are too young to have watched it.
I’d take Zek back -IF he can start to turn things around. Otherwise, I would reconsider keeping him or not. The same applies to Weston, imho.
Not sure about others yet.
Disagree Bone. These guys can score based on the 84 points they put up last game. They need a team building intervention, a real feckin hard one. Some teams train with the Seals. They need something like that. They have the offense, they just need the defense.rambone 78 wrote: ↑4 months ago At least half this roster needs to be elsewhere next season
Archie needs to find guys who have a solid defensive track record if at all possible.
Also wouldn't hurt if the newcomers are at least decent from the ft line.
Of course with a high turnover rate it will take more time to develop a cohesive unit.
Maybe once we have better overall talent, we could have less turnover at some point.
Not that it will be easy with the transfer rules but that's the hope I would think.
If Zek transfers I'm sure he would 100% go full Jarrelle Reischel and be crazy good for someone else lolJdrums#3 wrote: ↑4 months ago“Mr 78, you ask a lot of questions.”Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months agoWhich leads to another question. Which guys on the current roster should Archie prioritize to keep here? Do we want both House and Luis back? Or just one of them? Do we want Zek back? Brandon? Etc?...Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑4 months ago
78, I would go for a seasoned PG to split time with Hammond. Beyond that and as far as I am concerned, it depends on if the sit out rule changes again and depends on who stays or goes at seasons end.
I haven’t given next seasons needs much thought beyond the PG position yet.
That said, good off day question.
- Roxann Rosanna-Danna.
An old Saturday Night Live ref in case you are too young to have watched it.
I’d take Zek back -IF he can start to turn things around. Otherwise, I would reconsider keeping him or not. The same applies to Weston, imho.
Not sure about others yet.
Well, if guard quickness is the problem with the defense, that's not going to change this year.
I dunno...I think a 'moderate improvement' on defense...would make a huge difference. There would be more W's.rambone 78 wrote: ↑4 months ago I think by now, if they are this bad at defense, how much better will they get?
Even a moderate improvement wont be that big of a difference.
They need major improvement which imo just isn't likely.
I agree offensively we are pretty good, but it takes both sides of the ball.
With better defense we aren't likely to be totally blown out of games.
If the shots aren't falling, that's what is happening.
It takes mental toughness to play good defense, as we all know.
The staff I'm sure knows by now who could get better and who cant.
did he mention (lack of) quickness?Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months agoWell, if guard quickness is the problem with the defense, that's not going to change this year.
18:55 to 19:05...great shot
Rhody15 wrote: ↑4 months agoYou’d take Weston back if he can turn things around, but you’re not sure about proven commodities in House and Kortright?Jdrums#3 wrote: ↑4 months ago“Mr 78, you ask a lot of questions.”Billyboy78 wrote: ↑4 months ago
Which leads to another question. Which guys on the current roster should Archie prioritize to keep here? Do we want both House and Luis back? Or just one of them? Do we want Zek back? Brandon? Etc?...
- Roxann Rosanna-Danna.
An old Saturday Night Live ref in case you are too young to have watched it.
I’d take Zek back -IF he can start to turn things around. Otherwise, I would reconsider keeping him or not. The same applies to Weston, imho.
Not sure about others yet.
Interesting logic there.