They have lots of talent that can make an immediate impact.
It depends how fast Martin gets this roster to gel.
You know he will push them hard.
Not all that typical. In past years they have not been very optimistic. This year they are optimistic with a new, proven P5 HC who is really connecting with the fans, students, Alumni, former UMASS players and the media. He even has his own twitter that he is very active on. UMASS needs new life breathed back into the program and early signs are they picked the right guy. Time will tell.
Well yes, they grew tired of McCall.
But very typical of fans to get excited and maybe overly optimistic with a change.
Of course, when the previous coach wasn't successful.
Especially when bringing in a proven winner at a higher level.
I certainly think we got the right guy in Archie.
But I am patient and feel it will take a little time.
I liked the Martin hire a lot. He’s lit a fire under that program in just 6 months.
Not like both Martin and Miller can’t be successful, it’s not either/or.
I’d love to see UMASS and URI increase attendance, build lacking enthusiasm in their Fan bases and move up to Tier 1 in the A10.
Much like Richmond-VCU and Dayton-St Louis
Cox put the URI MBB Program to sleep Time to wake up again.
Not all that typical. In past years they have not been very optimistic. This year they are optimistic with a new, proven P5 HC who is really connecting with the fans, students, Alumni, former UMASS players and the media. He even has his own twitter that he is very active on. UMASS needs new life breathed back into the program and early signs are they picked the right guy. Time will tell.
Well yes, they grew tired of McCall.
But very typical of fans to get excited and maybe overly optimistic with a change.
Of course, when the previous coach wasn't successful.
Especially when bringing in a proven winner at a higher level.
I certainly think we got the right guy in Archie.
But I am patient and feel it will take a little time.
I liked the Martin hire a lot. He’s lit a fire under that program in just 6 months.
Not like both Martin and Miller can’t be successful, it’s not either/or.
I’d love to see UMASS and URI increase attendance, build lacking enthusiasm in their Fan bases and move up to Tier 1 in the A10.
Much like Richmond-VCU and Dayton-St Louis
Cox put the URI MBB Program to sleep Time to wake up again.
I can definitely see that happening.
A renewed intense rivalry Rhody vs UMass headlined with Archie and Martin.
9. Rhode Island
Archie Miller is back in the A-10 after URI parted with David Cox this offseason. The former Dayton and Indiana coach won big in this league the last time he was in it and should turn this program around before long. This team is just a bit too young to count on a big jump in Miller’s first year. Transfers Brayon Freeman (George Washington) and Brandon Weston (Seton Hall) are long-term building blocks, but the Rams’ frontcourt is shaky, and talented UNC transfer guard Anthony Harris won’t arrive until the semester break.
Postseason Projection: There’s Always Next Year
i am personally insulted by this
NO DOUBT
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:00 pm
by Rhodymob05
I know the experience can be lacking but don't we go 6'8 6'9 6'10 6'11 6'11 in our backcourt?
Good write up. I found this funny - Martin is really a media darling huh?
"The veteran head coach is noticeably invigorated by his new surroundings and excited to be at a place that is passionate about basketball."
Funny - even during that NCAA run there were a lot of fans dressed up as seats in the Mullins Center.
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 9:07 am
by Ramfan22
Brayon Freeman named to preseason A10 3rd-team.
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:08 am
by giovanni
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:12 am
by Big Rhody Guy
Rhody Picked 9th. Nowhere to go but up from there... I hope...
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:20 am
by Blue Man
Big Rhody Guy wrote: ↑1 year ago
Rhody Picked 9th. Nowhere to go but up from there... I hope...
Very rarely are the preseason expectations for us ever met. For whatever reason we're always trashed when it comes to conference selections and awards.
Think Stan Robinson not getting DPOY. Think of Xavier Munford not making a team. Really we always get shafted when it comes to the league.
Years they pick us high, we go low. Years we're picked low we go high.
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:22 am
by Rhodymob05
Archie was supposed to be on the "Field of 68", but I don't think he's there. Wasn't in the A10 coach's photo either.
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:32 am
by Big Rhody Guy
Rhodymob05 wrote: ↑1 year ago
Archie was supposed to be on the "Field of 68", but I don't think he's there. Wasn't in the A10 coach's photo either.
Bill Koch just tweeted a video of him there. Must have missed his train.
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:35 am
by Rhodymob05
Hes there!
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 11:12 am
by ElmCityRhody
Big Rhody Guy wrote: ↑1 year ago
Rhody Picked 9th. Nowhere to go but up from there... I hope...
i am personally insulted
9th my ass
pa-lease
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 11:50 am
by RF1
Big Rhody Guy wrote: ↑1 year ago
Rhody Picked 9th. Nowhere to go but up from there... I hope...
Would avoid the first day play in round as it now involves three games with seeds 10 through 15.
Big Rhody Guy wrote: ↑1 year ago
Rhody Picked 9th. Nowhere to go but up from there... I hope...
Would avoid the first day play in round as it now involves three games with seeds 10 through 15.
This even insults me more !
NO
DOUBT !
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:03 pm
by ElmCityRhody
Thanks for the poster board
I’ll be sure to keep this “prediction”
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:11 pm
by steveystuds06
Great interview with Archie. He's about 1:30:28 in....
Some highlights.
1. Brandon Weston and Carey remind him of his hybrid guard/wings at Dayton. They are Super athletic guys that can run and play multiple positions.
2. He said Weston is only a freshman but is incredibly talented. He's going to be a program changer. It's just a matter of when.
3. This is the fastest team he's ever coached. He believes that if we lock in on the defensive end and get stops, we will be an absolute nightmare on the fast break.
4. He thinks Bray could be a 1st team, all-A10 guard. He still needs to improve in some areas, but he's one of the best guards he's ever coached.
5. Archie said EVERY coach has always been able to attract talent to this program. Now winning with talent is a different story. He had no idea how great of an area Kingston and Narragansett are. He loves it here.
Great interview with Archie. He's about 1:30:28 in....
Some highlights.
1. Brandon Weston and Carey remind him of his hybrid guard/wings at Dayton. They are Super athletic guys that can run and play multiple positions.
2. He said Weston is only a freshman but is incredibly talented. He's going to be a program changer. It's just a matter of when.
3. This is the fastest team he's ever coached. He believes that if we lock in on the defensive end and get stops, we will be an absolute nightmare on the fast break.
4. He thinks Bray could be a 1st team, all-A10 guard. He still needs to improve in some areas, but he's one of the best guards he's ever coached.
5. Archie said EVERY coach has always been able to attract talent to this program. Now winning with talent is a different story. He had no idea how great of an area Kingston and Narragansett are. He loves it here.
Great interview with Archie. He's about 1:30:28 in....
Some highlights.
1. Brandon Weston and Carey remind him of his hybrid guard/wings at Dayton. They are Super athletic guys that can run and play multiple positions.
2. He said Weston is only a freshman but is incredibly talented. He's going to be a program changer. It's just a matter of when.
3. This is the fastest team he's ever coached. He believes that if we lock in on the defensive end and get stops, we will be an absolute nightmare on the fast break.
4. He thinks Bray could be a 1st team, all-A10 guard. He still needs to improve in some areas, but he's one of the best guards he's ever coached.
5. Archie said EVERY coach has always been able to attract talent to this program. Now winning with talent is a different story. He had no idea how great of an area Kingston and Narragansett are. He loves it here.
I'm so excited about this season!!!
I watched it live. Archie followed Billy Lange from St Joseph’s. Shane was visible just before Archie took the mic.
High on Freeman. Says he has the ability to get to where he wants to on the floor by any means possible.
Sounds like Archie was the key guy to getting this A10 Broadcast Event because he very well knows these guys. Also they talked about being on site for the PC @ URI Game. Archie threw out the idea and all 3 guys seemed to like it, Goodman asked the date of the game and nodded like it could be done.
Archie talked about the transfer portal as a means to build a team quickly.
Good interview.
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:30 pm
by Rhodymob05
Would be great to have that crew on campus. Builds exposure.
Great interview with Archie. He's about 1:30:28 in....
Some highlights.
1. Brandon Weston and Carey remind him of his hybrid guard/wings at Dayton. They are Super athletic guys that can run and play multiple positions.
2. He said Weston is only a freshman but is incredibly talented. He's going to be a program changer. It's just a matter of when.
3. This is the fastest team he's ever coached. He believes that if we lock in on the defensive end and get stops, we will be an absolute nightmare on the fast break.
4. He thinks Bray could be a 1st team, all-A10 guard. He still needs to improve in some areas, but he's one of the best guards he's ever coached.
5. Archie said EVERY coach has always been able to attract talent to this program. Now winning with talent is a different story. He had no idea how great of an area Kingston and Narragansett are. He loves it here.
Great interview with Archie. He's about 1:30:28 in....
Some highlights.
1. Brandon Weston and Carey remind him of his hybrid guard/wings at Dayton. They are Super athletic guys that can run and play multiple positions.
2. He said Weston is only a freshman but is incredibly talented. He's going to be a program changer. It's just a matter of when.
3. This is the fastest team he's ever coached. He believes that if we lock in on the defensive end and get stops, we will be an absolute nightmare on the fast break.
4. He thinks Bray could be a 1st team, all-A10 guard. He still needs to improve in some areas, but he's one of the best guards he's ever coached.
5. Archie said EVERY coach has always been able to attract talent to this program. Now winning with talent is a different story. He had no idea how great of an area Kingston and Narragansett are. He loves it here.
I'm so excited about this season!!!
Number 5 is a really great, and underrated, point about this job. Hell Jerry D got talent here, a lot of the talent that Baron went to his first NIT with
Great interview with Archie. He's about 1:30:28 in....
Some highlights.
1. Brandon Weston and Carey remind him of his hybrid guard/wings at Dayton. They are Super athletic guys that can run and play multiple positions.
2. He said Weston is only a freshman but is incredibly talented. He's going to be a program changer. It's just a matter of when.
3. This is the fastest team he's ever coached. He believes that if we lock in on the defensive end and get stops, we will be an absolute nightmare on the fast break.
4. He thinks Bray could be a 1st team, all-A10 guard. He still needs to improve in some areas, but he's one of the best guards he's ever coached.
5. Archie said EVERY coach has always been able to attract talent to this program. Now winning with talent is a different story. He had no idea how great of an area Kingston and Narragansett are. He loves it here.
Great interview with Archie. He's about 1:30:28 in....
Some highlights.
1. Brandon Weston and Carey remind him of his hybrid guard/wings at Dayton. They are Super athletic guys that can run and play multiple positions.
2. He said Weston is only a freshman but is incredibly talented. He's going to be a program changer. It's just a matter of when.
3. This is the fastest team he's ever coached. He believes that if we lock in on the defensive end and get stops, we will be an absolute nightmare on the fast break.
4. He thinks Bray could be a 1st team, all-A10 guard. He still needs to improve in some areas, but he's one of the best guards he's ever coached.
5. Archie said EVERY coach has always been able to attract talent to this program. Now winning with talent is a different story. He had no idea how great of an area Kingston and Narragansett are. He loves it here.
I'm so excited about this season!!!
Sits down I think at 155
Who did Arch follow didn’t see him ??
He followed Billy Lange from St Joseph’s. I think it was around 10:30am
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:50 pm
by RF1
UPDATED - College Sports Madness has listed its last A-10 team in its annual Top 144 countdown. St Louis is picked for #1 in the A-10 and just outside the national Top 25 at #27.
Dayton Flyers
2022-2023 Overall Rank: #30
Conference Rank: #2 Atlantic 10 https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/ar ... 007UPDATED - College Sports Madness has listed another A-10 team in its annual Top 144 countdown. Dayton is projected as an NCAA Tournament team at #30 nationally and #2 in the A-10. Leaves just one league team left to be named #1 in the A-10 and that is certain to be St Louis.
Great interview with Archie. He's about 1:30:28 in....
Some highlights.
1. Brandon Weston and Carey remind him of his hybrid guard/wings at Dayton. They are Super athletic guys that can run and play multiple positions.
2. He said Weston is only a freshman but is incredibly talented. He's going to be a program changer. It's just a matter of when.
3. This is the fastest team he's ever coached. He believes that if we lock in on the defensive end and get stops, we will be an absolute nightmare on the fast break.
4. He thinks Bray could be a 1st team, all-A10 guard. He still needs to improve in some areas, but he's one of the best guards he's ever coached.
5. Archie said EVERY coach has always been able to attract talent to this program. Now winning with talent is a different story. He had no idea how great of an area Kingston and Narragansett are. He loves it here.
I'm so excited about this season!!!
Number 5 is a really great, and underrated, point about this job. Hell Jerry D got talent here, a lot of the talent that Baron went to his first NIT with
6. By the end of this season we will be a force and have a shot at the NCAA - NO DOUBT - BUCKLE UP
This is a knock it out of the park hire !! Love this guy
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:19 pm
by Jersey77
The prediction contest will be interesting this season.
Archie is building this roster to lay a strong foundation for the future.
Not necessarily guaranteeing immediate success.
We must all try and stay patient.
Like I said early on we will probably finish in the bottom half.
That was prior to Harris not enrolling, Bilau's surgery, and now Foumena redshirting.
Finishing 9-12 is probably realisic, maybe even lower.
I am gald we have a favorable schedule this season.
I am sure ECR will be "personally offended". LOL
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:23 pm
by ElmCityRhody
personally insulted - not offended
I’ll add you to the list who will gladly be buying me a beer when are games are relevant heading into the home stretch … now say along w me …. NO DOUBT !
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:26 pm
by Jersey77
ElmCityRhody wrote: ↑1 year ago
personally insulted - not offended
I’ll add you to the list who will gladly be buying me a beer when are games are relevant heading into the home stretch … now say along w me …. NO DOUBT !
Yes insulted not offended.
But yeah if we are in contention at the end of the season, I will gladly buy you a beer.
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 8:41 am
by ace
KenPom 2023 dropped. Yes, I know the ranking are basically meaningless until there are more 22-23 data points. I don’t care. I like the format for helping my disorganized brain view and keep track of schedules, conferences, and results.
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 9:37 am
by Jersey77
ace wrote: ↑1 year ago
KenPom 2023 dropped. Yes, I know the ranking are basically meaningless until there are more 22-23 data points. I don’t care. I like the format for helping my disorganized brain view and keep track of schedules, conferences, and results.
Yeah Ace, I prefer to pay attention to the insiders and coach's predictions rather than KenPom's analytics/stats.
ace wrote: ↑1 year ago
KenPom 2023 dropped. Yes, I know the ranking are basically meaningless until there are more 22-23 data points. I don’t care. I like the format for helping my disorganized brain view and keep track of schedules, conferences, and results.
Yeah Ace, I prefer to pay attention to the insiders and coach's predictions rather than KenPom's analytics/stats.
He has Loyola ahead of VCU.
Also, the Bonnies and Duquesne higher than URI.
UMass below URI and Fordham last.
These all very surprising.
To be clear, I love advanced stats, including the KenPom stuff. You just have to know when to start taking meaning from it in a predictive way. He even says this. Also, those coaches and insiders are getting a lot of their info from stats and sites like his.
ace wrote: ↑1 year ago
KenPom 2023 dropped. Yes, I know the ranking are basically meaningless until there are more 22-23 data points. I don’t care. I like the format for helping my disorganized brain view and keep track of schedules, conferences, and results.
Yeah Ace, I prefer to pay attention to the insiders and coach's predictions rather than KenPom's analytics/stats.
He has Loyola ahead of VCU.
Also, the Bonnies and Duquesne higher than URI.
UMass below URI and Fordham last.
These all very surprising.
To be clear, I love advanced stats, including the KenPom stuff. You just have to know when to start taking meaning from it in a predictive way. He even says this. Also, those coaches and insiders are getting a lot of their info from stats and sites like his.
Yeah, it's nice to follow the analytics but they definitely don't tell the whole story.
Not sure how much attention the coach's or insiders pay to Ken Pomeroy.
Although some of his data could be useful.
It's interesting that he started as a civil engineer and then became a meteorologist.
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:18 pm
by SGreenwell
I'd be interested to see how much correlation there is between KenPom, coach's preseason polls and media preseason polls, to end of year results. But, that's a decent amount of info to compile. My suspicion would be that KenPom is probably the most accurate overall, but that he'd "miss" on some teams for narrative reasons that others wouldn't. (i.e. A team that gets a bunch of talented transfers with minimal playing time at their old school is probably very hard to project. URI and PC have both recently gotten a ton of transfers, for example, with wildly different results.)
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:41 pm
by Rhody15
ElmCityRhody wrote: ↑1 year ago
personally insulted - not offended
I’ll add you to the list who will gladly be buying me a beer when are games are relevant heading into the home stretch … now say along w me …. NO DOUBT !
What do you mean by “relevant?”
Relevant as it games will matter for top 4 A10 seed? NCAA tourney bubble? Regular season title?
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:42 pm
by ElmCityRhody
Not regular season title but yes for a top 4 seed and having a shot at the ncaa !
ace wrote: ↑1 year ago
KenPom 2023 dropped. Yes, I know the ranking are basically meaningless until there are more 22-23 data points. I don’t care. I like the format for helping my disorganized brain view and keep track of schedules, conferences, and results.
Yeah Ace, I prefer to pay attention to the insiders and coach's predictions rather than KenPom's analytics/stats.
He has Loyola ahead of VCU.
Also, the Bonnies and Duquesne higher than URI.
UMass below URI and Fordham last.
These all very surprising.
To be clear, I love advanced stats, including the KenPom stuff. You just have to know when to start taking meaning from it in a predictive way. He even says this. Also, those coaches and insiders are getting a lot of their info from stats and sites like his.
Most important to note on top of this is that the data is basically speculation until Jan/Feb when there is a longer period of time for more data to be gathered that can give a context.
Analytics would say jumping out a window is faster than walking down the stairs too. It's true, but there's a couple things you'd probably want to take into account before just taking that data as fact.
That's why they play the games.
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:36 am
by bigappleram
SGreenwell wrote: ↑1 year ago
I'd be interested to see how much correlation there is between KenPom, coach's preseason polls and media preseason polls, to end of year results. But, that's a decent amount of info to compile. My suspicion would be that KenPom is probably the most accurate overall, but that he'd "miss" on some teams for narrative reasons that others wouldn't. (i.e. A team that gets a bunch of talented transfers with minimal playing time at their old school is probably very hard to project. URI and PC have both recently gotten a ton of transfers, for example, with wildly different results.)
Not exactly what you are looking for but comparison of where teams have landed vs KenPom preseason predictions over last 12 years. Rhody has finished slightly ahead.
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:53 am
by RhodyKyle
For those looking to compare, here is Bart Torvik's preaseaon A-10 ranking.
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:11 am
by Blue Man
RhodyKyle wrote: ↑1 year ago
For those looking to compare, here is Bart Torvik's preaseaon A-10 ranking.
I mean, maybe I'm wrong (wouldn't be the first or last time), but I really don't understand the Loyola Chicago ball-washing.
1) Porter Moser is gone. As we've seen in plenty of examples, the old coaches ways stick around for a year or two.
2) Even still - beating ASU and DePaul are hardly things that other upper echelon A-10 teams haven't done. That's all Loyola really accomplished last year. That and scoring 41 points in their first round NCAA exit.
3) That team had SEVEN seniors on their roster. All Moser guys. 4 of them were starters. They're gone. They brought in Golden from Butler - who averaged 8 and 4. Not exactly a world-beater.
The metrics get screwy when you talk about teams that get to play a primarily 1 bid conference schedule for the majority of the year.
I'm not saying Loyola will finish in the basement, but anointing them top tier in the league feels ridiculous.
RhodyKyle wrote: ↑1 year ago
For those looking to compare, here is Bart Torvik's preaseaon A-10 ranking.
I mean, maybe I'm wrong (wouldn't be the first or last time), but I really don't understand the Loyola Chicago ball-washing.
1) Porter Moser is gone. As we've seen in plenty of examples, the old coaches ways stick around for a year or two.
2) Even still - beating ASU and DePaul are hardly things that other upper echelon A-10 teams haven't done. That's all Loyola really accomplished last year. That and scoring 41 points in their first round NCAA exit.
3) That team had SEVEN seniors on their roster. All Moser guys. 4 of them were starters. They're gone. They brought in Golden from Butler - who averaged 8 and 4. Not exactly a world-beater.
The metrics get screwy when you talk about teams that get to play a primarily 1 bid conference schedule for the majority of the year.
I'm not saying Loyola will finish in the basement, but anointing them top tier in the league feels ridiculous.
Agreed with all of your points. I don't understand these algorithms/formulas. At KenPom, in Hurley's last season URI finished 52 but the next year the preseason ranking for URI was 108 after losing a coach and a bunch of seniors. I would have expected more of a drop for Loyola between last year and this year.
As for your second point, that game was terrible and yet I couldn't look away. Loyola only managed 41 points but lets not forget that Ohio State also stunk out loud.
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:43 pm
by Jersey77
Although I don't think Loyola will finish 3rd or 4th as many predicted, I think they have a chance to finish in the top half, maybe 6th or 7th.
They do return an all-conference guard in Norris and another starter (G) Kennedy.
Transfers (G) Edwards, (F) Alston, (F) Wilson, and (C) Golden should all provide an immediate impact.
Re: A10 Outlook for 2022-23
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:18 pm
by SGreenwell
It's also still the preseason. Pretty much every team has lost X seniors or Y transfers, and replaced them with the unknown variables of freshmen and transfers. We're optimistic about URI being better, because we didn't like the Mitchells anyway, but as a reminder there were people positive we'd be better in 2021-22 because we wouldn't have that dastardly Fatts Russell hogging the ball all the time. Unless you're only replacing one or two spots, I think it's hard to tell how the pieces are going to fit, and you might as well use last season's results as a barometer vs. anything else.
