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Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:17 pm**

McRam wrote: ↑2 years ago
bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago Richard Pitino being mentioned

I saw that and says he is making 800k at New Mexico. I hope that is not our budget for this position.

He's 12-18 at New Mexico this year, and finished up 141-123, and 54-96 in Big Ten play, while at Minnesota. No thanks.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:22 pm**

TruePoint wrote: ↑2 years ago
RamIt! wrote: ↑2 years ago
LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑2 years ago How long before the new coach is announced?
Days?
Weeks?
Month?
Months?
Let's not forget this is a "State" job, so they have to legally post the job and take interviews for I think a month before they can officially hire anyone.
When we hired Hurley the news broke on March 16th. Baron was let go on March 4th, for context. So that one took under two weeks. Considering it took them less than 12 hours after the season ended to make the announcement on Cox, I’m interpreting that as they are going to move expeditiously here. If they have identified who they want and can come to terms with him, I doubt they will wait. The state hiring process formalities can be dealt with after the fact.

The transfer portal makes this kind of situation extremely time critical. ANY time that the position is open is too long. !

The deal is done when the contract is signed. if,there is a posting requirement, the University needs to get a “carve out” passed and made law to eliminate any poaching of a newly announced coach.

Let’s go Rhody, make it happen !,

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:23 pm**

SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years ago
McRam wrote: ↑2 years ago
bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago Richard Pitino being mentioned

I saw that and says he is making 800k at New Mexico. I hope that is not our budget for this position.
He's 12-18 at New Mexico this year, and finished up 141-123, and 54-96 in Big Ten play, while at Minnesota. No thanks.

. But he graduated from PC.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:32 pm**

SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years ago
McRam wrote: ↑2 years ago
bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago Richard Pitino being mentioned

I saw that and says he is making 800k at New Mexico. I hope that is not our budget for this position.
He's 12-18 at New Mexico this year, and finished up 141-123, and 54-96 in Big Ten play, while at Minnesota. No thanks.

Just say no to Richard Pitino

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:34 pm**

I have a list you and the big donors would like.

Rick Pitino
Archie Miller
Bobby Hurley

That's all the list we need.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:36 pm**

Just say no ...

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:40 pm**

I don’t get the infatuation with Bobby Hurley. Take the Hurley name out of it and he’s been an average coach.

People want to hire Bobby because of the Hurley name and dismiss Grasso because they don’t like his persona.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:40 pm**

PeteRI wrote: ↑2 years ago Just say no ...

While I'm not against either being assistant coaches at Rhody that will be up to the next head coach.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:50 pm**

PeterRamTime wrote: ↑2 years ago
SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑2 years ago
rambone 78 wrote: ↑2 years ago Kiss has an attitude for sure.....but he's REALLY good......
He's such a d*ck but I can't help but respect it.
As a Peter I accept him

+1

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:56 pm**

DeanDome88 wrote: ↑2 years ago
PeteRI wrote: ↑2 years ago Just say no ...

While I'm not against either being assistant coaches at Rhody that will be up to the next head coach.

Clearly, Jimmy and Tyson have contacted Jeff Goodman and asked him to float their names out there.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:59 pm**

No more OJT. We need a proven head coach.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:17 pm**

rambone 78 wrote: ↑2 years ago I have a list you and the big donors would like.

Rick Pitino
Archie Miller
Bobby Hurley

That's all the list we need.

This is my dream top 3

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:33 pm**

rambone 78 wrote: ↑2 years ago I have a list you and the big donors would like.

Rick Pitino
Archie Miller
Bobby Hurley

That's all the list we need.

Only one of those is available and he will wait for a better job. Whose in your next 3?

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:36 pm**

STC wrote: ↑2 years ago I don’t get the infatuation with Bobby Hurley. Take the Hurley name out of it and he’s been an average coach.

People want to hire Bobby because of the Hurley name and dismiss Grasso because they don’t like his persona.

I think there's a good amount of "Will his shit work at a higher level?" with Grasso. Meaning, his current team's success relies on a really difficult personality to manage (Kiss), they haven't been particularly impressive OOC (we beat them by 20 this year), and his track record at Bryant isn't particularly long. Personally, I think he *could* be good here, but I'd rather have someone with a longer track record of success, whether that's Archie Miller, Becker or someone else. He strikes me as a fallback candidate.

In contrast, while I'd prefer Archie Miller over Bobby, let's not overlook that he had won the regular season titles for Buffalo twice and the conference tournament once, and got Arizona State to a pair of NCAA tournaments, with a third one likely lost to Covid. He's faltered the past two years, but I think he's shown that he can win, maybe just not to the extent that Arizona State wants.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:45 pm**

I'll take an average coach from the PAC-12 over a good coach from the NEC.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:47 pm**

Iggy1979 wrote: ↑2 years ago
rambone 78 wrote: ↑2 years ago I have a list you and the big donors would like.

Rick Pitino
Archie Miller
Bobby Hurley

That's all the list we need.
Only one of those is available and he will wait for a better job. Whose in your next 3?

Mack
Weber
Crean
?

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:02 pm**

Or Maybe even poach some of Hurleys assistant coaches at Connecticut ....... Young or Tom Moore Might be ready. I'm not so keen on Luke Murray yet

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:04 pm**

class of 86 wrote: ↑2 years ago Or Maybe even poach some of Hurleys assistant coaches at Connecticut ....... Young or Tom Moore Might be ready. I'm not so keen on Luke Murray yet

hahaha Tom Moore.

Was barely over .500 in his time at Quinnipiac.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:05 pm**

class of 86 wrote: ↑2 years ago Or Maybe even poach some of Hurleys assistant coaches at Connecticut ....... Young or Tom Moore Might be ready. I'm not so keen on Luke Murray yet

How did his last assistant work out for us?

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:17 pm**

Pass on Tom Moore. He has done enough damage here already.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:21 pm**

SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years ago
STC wrote: ↑2 years ago I don’t get the infatuation with Bobby Hurley. Take the Hurley name out of it and he’s been an average coach.

People want to hire Bobby because of the Hurley name and dismiss Grasso because they don’t like his persona.
I think there's a good amount of "Will his shit work at a higher level?" with Grasso. Meaning, his current team's success relies on a really difficult personality to manage (Kiss), they haven't been particularly impressive OOC (we beat them by 20 this year), and his track record at Bryant isn't particularly long. Personally, I think he *could* be good here, but I'd rather have someone with a longer track record of success, whether that's Archie Miller, Becker or someone else. He strikes me as a fallback candidate.

In contrast, while I'd prefer Archie Miller over Bobby, let's not overlook that he had won the regular season titles for Buffalo twice and the conference tournament once, and got Arizona State to a pair of NCAA tournaments, with a third one likely lost to Covid. He's faltered the past two years, but I think he's shown that he can win, maybe just not to the extent that Arizona State wants.

Definitely, but I think the "will shit work" applies to every coach that hasn't coached and won at the A10 level or higher. I think Grasso's ability to manage Kiss is actually a positive. If you want to win at the mid-major level sometimes you have to recruit guys that have P5 talent but may have some "baggage". Hurley did it successfully with Iverson and Stan, Cox failed with the Mitchell twins and to a lesser extent, Carey. I don't really read too much into Bryant getting pounded by URI or Houston this year, at the end of they day they are still a low major school.

Assuming Archie is off the board, I'm also a Becker guy too. Becker probably has a higher floor than Grasso but Grasso has the upside to me. In terms of Hurley at ASU, he's kind of just been Herb Sendek 2.0 with some years decent, other years mediocre, but I get ASU isn't a premiere P5 basketball school too, so I'm not expecting a linear trajectory.

Hurley's rebuild of Buffalo isn't nearly as impressive as what Grasso did either. Hurley inherited a Buffalo program that had won 20+ games in 2 of the last 3 years and 3 of the last 5, but he was able to do what his predecessor couldn't and get Buffalo to the dance, so he does deserve credit for that.

Grasso won 22 games this year at Bryant, in the three years prior to his arrival, Bryant won a total of 23 games. Grasso almost had them dancing in year 3 too, Bryant lost in NEC Championship.

This is a bottom line business and love him or hate him, Grasso has delivered for Bryant.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:32 pm**

I’d like someone in the mold of Anthony Grant. Been in the big time and humble enough to come back to A10. Worked for Dayton and St Louis for the most part .

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:44 pm**

PeteRI wrote: ↑2 years ago
PeterRamTime wrote: ↑2 years ago
SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑2 years ago

He's such a d*ck but I can't help but respect it.
As a Peter I accept him
+1

I’m laughing so hard

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:45 pm**

One bad year at Harvard and Amaker falls off the hot coach list. I believe he's been on Thorr's list in the past.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:45 pm**

STC wrote: ↑2 years ago
SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years ago
STC wrote: ↑2 years ago I don’t get the infatuation with Bobby Hurley. Take the Hurley name out of it and he’s been an average coach.

People want to hire Bobby because of the Hurley name and dismiss Grasso because they don’t like his persona.
I think there's a good amount of "Will his shit work at a higher level?" with Grasso. Meaning, his current team's success relies on a really difficult personality to manage (Kiss), they haven't been particularly impressive OOC (we beat them by 20 this year), and his track record at Bryant isn't particularly long. Personally, I think he *could* be good here, but I'd rather have someone with a longer track record of success, whether that's Archie Miller, Becker or someone else. He strikes me as a fallback candidate.

In contrast, while I'd prefer Archie Miller over Bobby, let's not overlook that he had won the regular season titles for Buffalo twice and the conference tournament once, and got Arizona State to a pair of NCAA tournaments, with a third one likely lost to Covid. He's faltered the past two years, but I think he's shown that he can win, maybe just not to the extent that Arizona State wants.
Definitely, but I think the "will shit work" applies to every coach that hasn't coached and won at the A10 level or higher. I think Grasso's ability to manage Kiss is actually a positive. If you want to win at the mid-major level sometimes you have to recruit guys that have P5 talent but may have some "baggage". Hurley did it successfully with Iverson and Stan, Cox failed with the Mitchell twins and to a lesser extent, Carey. I don't really read too much into Bryant getting pounded by URI or Houston this year, at the end of they day they are still a low major school.

Assuming Archie is off the board, I'm also a Becker guy too. Becker probably has a higher floor than Grasso but Grasso has the upside to me. In terms of Hurley at ASU, he's kind of just been Herb Sendek 2.0 with some years decent, other years mediocre, but I get ASU isn't a premiere P5 basketball school too, so I'm not expecting a linear trajectory.

Hurley's rebuild of Buffalo isn't nearly as impressive as what Grasso did either. Hurley inherited a Buffalo program that had won 20+ games in 2 of the last 3 years and 3 of the last 5, but he was able to do what his predecessor couldn't and get Buffalo to the dance, so he does deserve credit for that.

Grasso won 22 games this year at Bryant, in the three years prior to his arrival, Bryant won a total of 23 games. Grasso almost had them dancing in year 3 too, Bryant lost in NEC Championship.

This is a bottom line business and love him or hate him, Grasso has delivered for Bryant.

Thank you!!! I couldn't agree more with this post.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:47 pm**

Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 years ago
class of 86 wrote: ↑2 years ago Or Maybe even poach some of Hurleys assistant coaches at Connecticut ....... Young or Tom Moore Might be ready. I'm not so keen on Luke Murray yet
hahaha Tom Moore.

Was barely over .500 in his time at Quinnipiac.

Moore stinks. He never even bothered to move here to RI since he knew he wasn’t staying. Huge pass on him.

I can’t wait to have fire and excitement in this program again!

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:49 pm**

Is Thorr willing to gamble on someone who is likely to embarrass the university at some point?

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:50 pm**

Moore badly wanted to be associate HC at UConn but was passed over for Young. I think that says a lot about both of them.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:56 pm**

I’d rather have Young or Murray than Moore. But I’m starting to warm to an existing head coach (other than Grasso).

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:56 pm**

I posted some fairly disparaging things about Dan on his way out, more of frustration that tampering by UConn seemed clearly evident but that’s a different conversation for a different day.

But, man, it would be great to see Bobby back in Kingston. Always thought he was a major contributor to Rhody and the team did stumble for a while after losing him under Dan.

Lots of reasons this makes sense but, admittedly, a lot would need to break in our direction first.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:57 pm**

STC wrote: ↑2 years ago
SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years ago
STC wrote: ↑2 years ago I don’t get the infatuation with Bobby Hurley. Take the Hurley name out of it and he’s been an average coach.

People want to hire Bobby because of the Hurley name and dismiss Grasso because they don’t like his persona.
I think there's a good amount of "Will his shit work at a higher level?" with Grasso. Meaning, his current team's success relies on a really difficult personality to manage (Kiss), they haven't been particularly impressive OOC (we beat them by 20 this year), and his track record at Bryant isn't particularly long. Personally, I think he *could* be good here, but I'd rather have someone with a longer track record of success, whether that's Archie Miller, Becker or someone else. He strikes me as a fallback candidate.

In contrast, while I'd prefer Archie Miller over Bobby, let's not overlook that he had won the regular season titles for Buffalo twice and the conference tournament once, and got Arizona State to a pair of NCAA tournaments, with a third one likely lost to Covid. He's faltered the past two years, but I think he's shown that he can win, maybe just not to the extent that Arizona State wants.
Definitely, but I think the "will shit work" applies to every coach that hasn't coached and won at the A10 level or higher. I think Grasso's ability to manage Kiss is actually a positive. If you want to win at the mid-major level sometimes you have to recruit guys that have P5 talent but may have some "baggage". Hurley did it successfully with Iverson and Stan, Cox failed with the Mitchell twins and to a lesser extent, Carey. I don't really read too much into Bryant getting pounded by URI or Houston this year, at the end of they day they are still a low major school.

Assuming Archie is off the board, I'm also a Becker guy too. Becker probably has a higher floor than Grasso but Grasso has the upside to me. In terms of Hurley at ASU, he's kind of just been Herb Sendek 2.0 with some years decent, other years mediocre, but I get ASU isn't a premiere P5 basketball school too, so I'm not expecting a linear trajectory.

Hurley's rebuild of Buffalo isn't nearly as impressive as what Grasso did either. Hurley inherited a Buffalo program that had won 20+ games in 2 of the last 3 years and 3 of the last 5, but he was able to do what his predecessor couldn't and get Buffalo to the dance, so he does deserve credit for that.

Grasso won 22 games this year at Bryant, in the three years prior to his arrival, Bryant won a total of 23 games. Grasso almost had them dancing in year 3 too, Bryant lost in NEC Championship.

This is a bottom line business and love him or hate him, Grasso has delivered for Bryant.

How has Grasso managed Kiss? Kiss was suspended two games at the beginning of the year and that message and Grasso's subsequent managing led to Kiss receiving a one game suspension from the conference and one from the school as the regular season was winding down, and those suspensions and the following managing led to Kiss' asshattery being a big part of the brawl in the stands during the championship game. Best I can tell Grasso hasn't been successful at managing Kiss at all

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:57 pm**

Iggy1979 wrote: ↑2 years ago Is Thorr willing to gamble on someone who is likely to embarrass the university at some point?

Grasso?

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:59 pm**

SGreenwell wrote: ↑2 years ago
STC wrote: ↑2 years ago I don’t get the infatuation with Bobby Hurley. Take the Hurley name out of it and he’s been an average coach.

People want to hire Bobby because of the Hurley name and dismiss Grasso because they don’t like his persona.
I think there's a good amount of "Will his shit work at a higher level?" with Grasso. Meaning, his current team's success relies on a really difficult personality to manage (Kiss), they haven't been particularly impressive OOC (we beat them by 20 this year), and his track record at Bryant isn't particularly long. Personally, I think he *could* be good here, but I'd rather have someone with a longer track record of success, whether that's Archie Miller, Becker or someone else. He strikes me as a fallback candidate.

In contrast, while I'd prefer Archie Miller over Bobby, let's not overlook that he had won the regular season titles for Buffalo twice and the conference tournament once, and got Arizona State to a pair of NCAA tournaments, with a third one likely lost to Covid. He's faltered the past two years, but I think he's shown that he can win, maybe just not to the extent that Arizona State wants.

Grasso would be down on my list , we’d have to strike out on a bunch of our top candidates for me to warm to him

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:05 pm**

Iggy1979 wrote: ↑2 years ago One bad year at Harvard and Amaker falls off the hot coach list. I believe he's been on Thorr's list in the past.

I'd be ok with giving Amaker a look for sure. I was high on him last time around.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:18 pm**

Rhodymob05 wrote: ↑2 years ago I'll take an average coach from the PAC-12 over a good coach from the NEC.

So you're saying you'd take Bobby Hurley over Dan Hurley?

I know that's not what you meant, just having some fun.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:23 pm**

damram wrote: ↑2 years ago Pass on Tom Moore. He has done enough damage here already.

I think I speak for everyone at URI when I say fuck Tom Moore.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:25 pm**

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:29 pm**

RAMFAN wrote: ↑2 years ago

obstreperousness

This was a new word for me

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:42 pm**

RAMFAN wrote: ↑2 years ago

Anyone mind copying and pasting the text for those of us non-locals who don't have Projo subscriptions

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:43 pm**

adam914 wrote: ↑2 years ago
Iggy1979 wrote: ↑2 years ago One bad year at Harvard and Amaker falls off the hot coach list. I believe he's been on Thorr's list in the past.
I'd be ok with giving Amaker a look for sure. I was high on him last time around.

. I believe Amaker is being paid $1.8 at Harvard already. If true, why would he choose us even if we could offer that much?

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:45 pm**

Ramrod wrote: ↑2 years ago
RAMFAN wrote: ↑2 years ago
Anyone mind copying and pasting the text for those of us non-locals who don't have Projo subscriptions

Yes please , who are the 9 candidates Billy Koch mentioned I don’t have a subscription

I would be fine with Amaker also

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:46 pm**

McRam wrote: ↑2 years ago
adam914 wrote: ↑2 years ago
Iggy1979 wrote: ↑2 years ago One bad year at Harvard and Amaker falls off the hot coach list. I believe he's been on Thorr's list in the past.
I'd be ok with giving Amaker a look for sure. I was high on him last time around.

. I believe Amaker is being paid $1.8 at Harvard already. If true, why would he choose us even if we could offer that much?

If thats the case then he may not be interested. All I could find from a quick google search was that he was making $700k as of a few years ago.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:58 pm**

reef wrote: ↑2 years ago
Ramrod wrote: ↑2 years ago
RAMFAN wrote: ↑2 years ago
Anyone mind copying and pasting the text for those of us non-locals who don't have Projo subscriptions
Yes please , who are the 9 candidates Billy Koch mentioned I don’t have a subscription

I would be fine with Amaker also

I am sure they all have been mentioned on this board, probably no surprises.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:07 pm**

John Becker, Vermont
Jared Grasso, Bryant
Jeff Boals, Ohio
Shaheed Holloway, St Peters
Bashir Mason, Wagner
Matt Langel, Colgate
King Rice, Monmouth
Robert Jones, Norfolk State
James Jones, Yale

I think it would violate forum rules to paste the entire story here.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:14 pm**

Watching the St. Louis-St. Bonaventure raises an idea that's been mentioned on this board once in a while: can we find a coach -- head coach or assistant -- who can teach players to defend well without fouling?

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:23 pm**

Rhody74 wrote: ↑2 years ago John Becker, Vermont
Jared Grasso, Bryant
Jeff Boals, Ohio
Shaheed Holloway, St Peters
Bashir Mason, Wagner
Matt Langel, Colgate
King Rice, Monmouth
Robert Jones, Norfolk State
James Jones, Yale

I think it would violate forum rules to paste the entire story here.

This list is wrong

It will be Archie Miller

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:28 pm**

Rhody74 wrote: ↑2 years ago John Becker, Vermont
Jared Grasso, Bryant
Jeff Boals, Ohio
Shaheed Holloway, St Peters
Bashir Mason, Wagner
Matt Langel, Colgate
King Rice, Monmouth
Robert Jones, Norfolk State
James Jones, Yale

I think it would violate forum rules to paste the entire story here.

I do like King Rice

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:30 pm**

That list is pretty underwhelming.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:31 pm**

URI_05 wrote: ↑2 years ago That list is pretty underwhelming.

He did mention Archie Miller, Chris Mack, or Mark Turegeon - but with the caveat that those are traditionally outside of the realm of our economic investments around the program.

Doesn't mean we couldn't go that direction, but that it would take a departure from our usual process and investments.

Posted: **Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:41 pm**

Somebody actually wants Tom Moore? The slime that Calhoun sent here ?

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