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RhowdyRam02 wrote: 2 years ago
Blue Man wrote: 2 years ago
adam914 wrote: 2 years ago No change coming at St. Joe's.

I don't know anything about her but I think I hate her.

I hated Martelli but he was a legend. She came in and just said "time to change" and hired whoever. Of course she doesn't want to admit she was wrong and fired a program legend who should have a gym named after him a la Frank Keaney here. So she will ride the Lange train into the dirt.

Phil deserved to go out on his own terms at St Joes.
Martelli was 64 and had gone 20-34 in the A10 in the previous 3 seasons. Maybe he should have been able to go out on his own terms or at least given another season or two to turn things around, but if I'm an AD I'm not sure how comfortable I'd feel with that coaching situation. If he had already lost it and refused to leave, what do you do?
Phil Matrelli was always up and down though. He probably would have had them pretty good again eventually.
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Blue Man wrote: 2 years ago
adam914 wrote: 2 years ago No change coming at St. Joe's.

I don't know anything about her but I think I hate her.

I hated Martelli but he was a legend. She came in and just said "time to change" and hired whoever. Of course she doesn't want to admit she was wrong and fired a program legend who should have a gym named after him a la Frank Keaney here. So she will ride the Lange train into the dirt.

Phil deserved to go out on his own terms at St Joes.
Martelli's last three years at St. Joe's weren't great, and it wasn't like the guy had a reputation of being a peach and easy to work with. I'm fine with moving on from him, but if that's the case, there's zero justification to keep Lange around at this point. Jordan Hall is a nice player, not a star, and their two best frontcourt guys are seniors.
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RhowdyRam02 wrote: 2 years ago
Blue Man wrote: 2 years ago
adam914 wrote: 2 years ago No change coming at St. Joe's.

I don't know anything about her but I think I hate her.

I hated Martelli but he was a legend. She came in and just said "time to change" and hired whoever. Of course she doesn't want to admit she was wrong and fired a program legend who should have a gym named after him a la Frank Keaney here. So she will ride the Lange train into the dirt.

Phil deserved to go out on his own terms at St Joes.
Martelli was 64 and had gone 20-34 in the A10 in the previous 3 seasons. Maybe he should have been able to go out on his own terms or at least given another season or two to turn things around, but if I'm an AD I'm not sure how comfortable I'd feel with that coaching situation. If he had already lost it and refused to leave, what do you do?
And she was there for one of them. Just smacks as someone trying to make their mark for the sake of making their mark.

And not for nothing, that St Joes team had Charlie Brown as a sophomore, plus a Kimbal/Bynum backcourt that would've been back the next season. Brown probably comes back (instead of going undrafted) and St Joes probably has a pretty good shot in 2020.

Not like Martelli hadn't proven he could get it done. And getting Charlie Brown to commit to St Joes and stay in Philly was a pretty good get.

Went from seasons of 16 wins and 14 wins to seasons of 6 and 7. At least she gets to own this as her own.

I just feel like she sucks and is someone I wouldn't like. So I don't. F her. Hope St Joes sucks under Lange and then she gets fired.
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RF1 wrote: 2 years ago
You may have possibly intended to mean the highest paid at the time but that is not what you wrote. The only interpretation of your written words is that Jim Baron was the highest paid state employee of the 2000's and that is not true.
Rhody72 wrote: 2 years ago Jim Baron kept his job for 11 years and he was the highest paid RI State employee this century.
I gave you another interpretation.
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Blue Man wrote: 2 years ago
RhowdyRam02 wrote: 2 years ago
Blue Man wrote: 2 years ago

I don't know anything about her but I think I hate her.

I hated Martelli but he was a legend. She came in and just said "time to change" and hired whoever. Of course she doesn't want to admit she was wrong and fired a program legend who should have a gym named after him a la Frank Keaney here. So she will ride the Lange train into the dirt.

Phil deserved to go out on his own terms at St Joes.
Martelli was 64 and had gone 20-34 in the A10 in the previous 3 seasons. Maybe he should have been able to go out on his own terms or at least given another season or two to turn things around, but if I'm an AD I'm not sure how comfortable I'd feel with that coaching situation. If he had already lost it and refused to leave, what do you do?
And she was there for one of them. Just smacks as someone trying to make their mark for the sake of making their mark.

And not for nothing, that St Joes team had Charlie Brown as a sophomore, plus a Kimbal/Bynum backcourt that would've been back the next season. Brown probably comes back (instead of going undrafted) and St Joes probably has a pretty good shot in 2020.

Not like Martelli hadn't proven he could get it done. And getting Charlie Brown to commit to St Joes and stay in Philly was a pretty good get.

Went from seasons of 16 wins and 14 wins to seasons of 6 and 7. At least she gets to own this as her own.

I just feel like she sucks and is someone I wouldn't like. So I don't. F her. Hope St Joes sucks under Lange and then she gets fired.
I'm not super passionate either way and can see this view, but I'm not sure it's as much wanting to make a mark vs. not wanting my career to ride on a mid-60's Phil Martelli being able to turn things around when the last three year were bad. Yeah, maybe he does under the scenario you lay out, but am I ready to risk my career on it?
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Rhody72 wrote: 2 years ago
RF1 wrote: 2 years ago
You may have possibly intended to mean the highest paid at the time but that is not what you wrote. The only interpretation of your written words is that Jim Baron was the highest paid state employee of the 2000's and that is not true.
Rhody72 wrote: 2 years ago Jim Baron kept his job for 11 years and he was the highest paid RI State employee this century.
I gave you another interpretation.
One that doesn't fit what you wrote.
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Weird with coaching vacancies so far....some are being let go that you wouldn't think should be let go, and some are being retained that you would think should be fired.

We had better not be in the latter category.
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Georgia just parted ways with Crean.
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Deservedly so
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Good move Pikell can coach
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Was high on Thorr's list when he hired Hurley.
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Iggy1979 wrote: 2 years ago Was high on Thorr's list when he hired Hurley.
That’s good tells me Thorr knows what he’s doing and wants to nail the next hire after missing on Cox
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Iggy1979 wrote: 2 years ago Was high on Thorr's list when he hired Hurley.
Folks would've complained that he was not a "splash hire."

Kudos to Rutgers.
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KevanBoyles wrote: 2 years ago Georgia just parted ways with Crean.
Would we even possibly consider him?

Hes better than everyone Koch mentioned by far.
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PeterRamTime wrote: 2 years ago
KevanBoyles wrote: 2 years ago Georgia just parted ways with Crean.
Would we even possibly consider him?

Hes better than everyone Koch mentioned by far.
He would be considered more of a splash hire, none of them were mentioned by Koch.
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Just out per Jon Rothstein…..

East Carolina has parted ways with Joe Dooley, per release.
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This is like Black Monday in the NFL.
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Cuonzo Martin and Bruce Weber...can hold their heads high. You win the right way and lose the right way. Please read this column:
https://www.stltoday.com/sports/college ... 3d921.html
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SmartyBarrett wrote: 2 years ago
Hang down your head, Joe Dooley
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SmartyBarrett wrote: 2 years ago

This is like Black Monday in the NFL.
Wow Cuonzo been at a lot of schools , he was on that Purdue team we beat in 93
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reef wrote: 2 years ago
SmartyBarrett wrote: 2 years ago

This is like Black Monday in the NFL.
Wow Cuonzo been at a lot of schools , he was on that Purdue team we beat in 93
He did take 3 different schools to the NCAAT.
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Jersey77 wrote: 2 years ago
reef wrote: 2 years ago
SmartyBarrett wrote: 2 years ago

This is like Black Monday in the NFL.
Wow Cuonzo been at a lot of schools , he was on that Purdue team we beat in 93
He did take 3 different schools to the NCAAT.
If we wanna see more teams completely inept on offense then we take Cuonzo lol
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PeterRamTime wrote: 2 years ago
Jersey77 wrote: 2 years ago
reef wrote: 2 years ago

Wow Cuonzo been at a lot of schools , he was on that Purdue team we beat in 93
He did take 3 different schools to the NCAAT.
If we wanna see more teams completely inept on offense then we take Cuonzo lol
No worry, he wouldn't even be on our radar.
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PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: 2 years ago Cuonzo Martin and Bruce Weber...can hold their heads high. You win the right way and lose the right way. Please read this column:
https://www.stltoday.com/sports/college ... 3d921.html
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Wonder if Cuonzo P6 coaching days are over now ??
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PeterRamTime wrote: 2 years ago
KevanBoyles wrote: 2 years ago Georgia just parted ways with Crean.
Would we even possibly consider him?

Hes better than everyone Koch mentioned by far.
Question: do we really know if he’s a good coach anymore or is he just a big name? Yes, he had some good years at Indiana, but not in his last few years there. It’s tough to win at Georgia, given the gauntlet that is the SEC, but most would have predicted a better outcome for him there. Coaches can lose it just like players can.
Is he still living off that 2003 Final Four run with Dwayne Wade and company at Marquette in many people’s eyes?
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JimSidd wrote: 2 years ago
PeterRamTime wrote: 2 years ago
KevanBoyles wrote: 2 years ago Georgia just parted ways with Crean.
Would we even possibly consider him?

Hes better than everyone Koch mentioned by far.
Question: do we really know if he’s a good coach anymore or is he just a big name? Yes, he had some good years at Indiana, but not in his last few years there. It’s tough to win at Georgia, given the gauntlet that is the SEC, but most would have predicted a better outcome for him there. Coaches can lose it just like players can.
Is he still living off that 2003 Final Four run with Dwayne Wade and company at Marquette in many people’s eyes?
That's just an incorrect narrative on Crean. His last 3 years at Indiana - NCAAT, NCAAT (to the S16), NIT.
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Tom Crean can coach and a very articulate guy. He's only 55, Yes, he had Dwyane Wade at Marquette, but that's not the only reason he succeeded. His personality has come into question by certain factions. But i don't think he forgot how to coach. He would be a splash hire. And he has the small connection of being in the final list in the 1997 hire before Harrick threw his name in that hat. A call is cheap
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Crean is in my top 3 with Miller and Mack. I’d be thrilled with any of those 3.
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Goodman is expecting Crean to take a break from coaching.

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rhodysurf wrote: 2 years ago
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WHOA

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SmartyBarrett wrote: 2 years ago WHOA

Wow Willy Wade is shady !! What happened??
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Wade and Sean Miller very shady may have to sit out for a bit to reestablish reputation
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Really hope UMass doesn’t end up with Kimani. I think he’s going to be a good hire for whoever gets him.
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adam914 wrote: 2 years ago Really hope UMass doesn’t end up with Kimani. I think he’s going to be a good hire for whoever gets him.
I agree that Kimani will succeed somewhere. I don't believe he fits here with the program in its current
status. As I said I wouldn't be opposed but I definitely take a guy like Shaheen Holloway over him in a heartbeat
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Shaheen Holloway may end up being a great HC somewhere, but would be a massive risk for URI at this point
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Massive risk? As opposed to who? Just a serious question?
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Who we like better Shaheen Holloway or Jared Grasso ??
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reef wrote: 2 years ago Who we like better Shaheen Holloway or Jared Grasso ??
I much prefer Holloway.
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Holloway, given that choice…..
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Same here I prefer Holloway over Grasso if between those
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giovanni wrote: 2 years ago Massive risk? As opposed to who? Just a serious question?
Any of the more proven lower tier head coaching candidates. Holloway is in his 4th season at St Peter’s, these are his records by year:

2019: 10-22
2020: 18-12
2021: 14-11
2022: 18-11

Currently 0 NCAA tournament appearances, maybe one if we check back in a few hours. He’s a low scoring, defensive first coach. So maybe that fits the URI mold

I just don’t think he’s done enough at a low level to warrant consideration.