2/11 | Dayton | 7:30PM (CBSSN)

[Blue Man]

To keep perspective as we look to Joes; if you had told me 5 weeks ago on the morning or January 6th, when we woke up 8-5, 0-1 - with a NET of 91 - nowhere near anyone's idea of a bubble with 0 Q1 wins and a Q1/Q2 record of 3-4...

...that 5 weeks later on Feb 12th we would be 18-6, 10-2 with a NET of 35 - squarely in the field with a Q1 win and a Q1/Q2 record of 6-5, and that 1 loss would be a top 10 team on the road. I'd have said you were crazy, but I'd have been ecstatic.

Last night was an embarrassing anomaly, but didn't derail any season goals. We're still in the running for a top 10 season that this program has ever had. Things are very good.

Burn the tape. Turn the page. Kill the Hawk.

[sevegny7]

To keep perspective as we look to Joes; if you had told me 5 weeks ago on the morning or January 6th, when we woke up 8-5, 0-1 - with a NET of 91 - nowhere near anyone's idea of a bubble with 0 Q1 wins and a Q1/Q2 record of 3-4...

...that 5 weeks later on Feb 12th we would be 18-6, 10-2 with a NET of 35 - squarely in the field with a Q1 win and a Q1/Q2 record of 6-5, and that 1 loss would be a top 10 team on the road. I'd have said you were crazy, but I'd have been ecstatic.

Last night was an embarrassing anomaly, but didn't derail any season goals. We're still in the running for a top 10 season that this program has ever had. Things are very good.

Burn the tape. Turn the page. Kill the Hawk.

Yes cut both wings off so he can no longer flap like a lunatic that mascot is haha.

I think how they respond to close the season will tell me more about this team then last night did. How do you get up from stumbling shows me the type of character a team possesses. Let's see if cox can push the right buttons to close this thing out like we did last year. And over the last 10 games.

[ace]

I thought Bill was referencing Ryan Daly with the comment, never thought it was intended to be a dig at Fatts.

I wasn't referencing any specific player. It was completely arbitrary.

Again, the tweet was an appreciation of Landers. When it comes all-conference time, give me a winning player on a great team rather than a volume scorer on a bad team. Period. That's it.

Confusion about your tweet aside, I completely agree with you and I think most basketball people do, too. It’s too bad that the conference’s coaches don’t share that theory, or at least they didn’t when they voted on the 2017-18 conference awards - one of the all-time traveshamockeries that has basically made the awards themselves almost meaningless to me.

Xavier Munford plays for a bad team and cannot win a conference award.

Ok, cool. The 17-18 team is the best in the conference, bring on the awards.

No, sorry. Must honor the defensive eliteness of Yuta Watanabe.

[daytonflyerfan]

This is the type of game where they really miss a low post scoring option. That is where Dayton can be had, but we have no one who can score in the low post with any kind of consistency. It might have been nice to actually throw it in there and give it a try though as nothing else was working.

I disagree about RI not having a low post scoring option...you have Cyril who you did not use nearly enough at least in the 2nd half...totally agree with the rest of your post though, they should have rode Cyril much more

[adam914]

To keep perspective as we look to Joes; if you had told me 5 weeks ago on the morning or January 6th, when we woke up 8-5, 0-1 - with a NET of 91 - nowhere near anyone's idea of a bubble with 0 Q1 wins and a Q1/Q2 record of 3-4...

...that 5 weeks later on Feb 12th we would be 18-6, 10-2 with a NET of 35 - squarely in the field with a Q1 win and a Q1/Q2 record of 6-5, and that 1 loss would be a top 10 team on the road. I'd have said you were crazy, but I'd have been ecstatic.

Last night was an embarrassing anomaly, but didn't derail any season goals. We're still in the running for a top 10 season that this program has ever had. Things are very good.

Burn the tape. Turn the page. Kill the Hawk.

Yes cut both wings off so he can no longer flap like a lunatic that mascot is haha.

I think how they respond to close the season will tell me more about this team then last night did. How do you get up from stumbling shows me the type of character a team possesses. Let's see if cox can push the right buttons to close this thing out like we did last year. And over the last 10 games.

Agreed, I'm excited to see how they respond because I really believe they are going to come out mad as hell the rest of the season, refocused and ready to go.

[Taylor Swift]

It’s going to be great to watch him develop even more this season and into the next.

[Iggy1979]

This is the type of game where they really miss a low post scoring option. That is where Dayton can be had, but we have no one who can score in the low post with any kind of consistency. It might have been nice to actually throw it in there and give it a try though as nothing else was working.

I disagree about RI not having a low post scoring option...you have Cyril who you did not use nearly enough at least in the 2nd half...totally agree with the rest of your post though, they should have rode Cyril much more

DFF: Langevine is shooting 47.7 percent from the field, much lower than the last two years.

[rhodylaw]

What I will not do: blame officials for my team losing a game in which we trailed 17-0; claim the officials are biased against my team with no substantiation; claim the game is fixed or that referees bet on the game; make physical threats of violence against officials, even as a joke (admittedly working on this one).

What I will do, happily, all the time: call out shitty officiating that hurts my team; acknowledge that most refs are terrible human beings.

100% agree with your take here - however, the technical with 8 seconds in the half changed the game completely and is 100% unacceptable. Yes they called a shitty T on Dayton a few minutes earlier (they had every right to complain about an atrocious call). Our team was not ready at the start, but this team of refs was not ready for this game AT ALL. I don’t think we win, but the teams (and fans) get the game they deserve if the refs don’t make it about the officiating.

We came out strong in the 2nd half and cut it to 10 again which would have been 5 or 6 points and put them on their heels and made for a good game.

[RhowdyRam02]

Oh and that Ref, James Breeding is the same ref we had at the WV game at the Mohegan who was terrible in that game, and also in this one. As soon as I saw his face, I had flashbacks to yelling at him constantly at that game and honestly thought it was one of the worst refereed games I had ever witnessed. He called a T on Cox in that game, and another on Harris because he had the audacity to look at him. And last night again with the real quick tech whistles on both Cox and Grant. Google him, he sucks and is a crap ref. I cannot stand when the Refs think they are part of the show, and they are beyond being questioned when bone headed calls are made, but that is this dude in spades. He is like a bad cop, they will let you know that they have all the power. I hope to never see his face again ever reffing a URI game.

I didn't know that was the same ref and all of a sudden last night makes more sense. That West Virginia game was hands down the worst refereed game I've ever been in the building for. It was so bad that by the second half I was even yelling about the foul calls we were getting

[RhodyRam86]

trying to think of any other time we've come out so "deer in the headlights". the only game i can come up with is vs UNC in the second round of the tournament (was that 1999?). hard to say what it means or how we will react. we've obviously had some bad games over the years, but not this uptight or with this talented a team. i think we will learn a lot on saturday. i'm sure the team could use a confidence boost. st. joes is not a game where we say just win and nothing else matters. i really think we need to stomp them and regain some of that mojo going into a week long respite.

[section(105)]

.....I guess I gotta go there again, and be that guy; bad officiating, bad calls, bad timing of calls, etc etc,,,,,,,for me all part of the game, I get it; but to suggest officials in general or specific are terrible human beings, and hatred for officials, and wishing personal tragedy upon officials during games is something I will continue to call out for what it is, inappropriate and not OK......not looking for debate, just wanted to have my say.....

[wpbrown8267]

trying to think of any other time we've come out so "deer in the headlights". the only game i can come up with is vs UNC in the second round of the tournament (was that 1999?). hard to say what it means or how we will react. we've obviously had some bad games over the years, but not this uptight or with this talented a team. i think we will learn a lot on saturday. i'm sure the team could use a confidence boost. st. joes is not a game where we say just win and nothing else matters. i really think we need to stomp them and regain some of that mojo going into a week long respite.

1993

UNC stomped a mudhole in us that day 112-67

[reef]

That’s a heck of a pre game dunk by Jacob Toppin !!

[DeanDome88]

Haven't really posted all season but because I'm a superstitious weirdo, I didn't want to during our win streak. Well now that's over and here I am.

A few observations from last nights game...

- That was your classic "this is a Top-10 team, so you need to withstand the early barrage" type game. And Rhody clearly did not. In those moments when the refs allow the super physical play early, you can't settle for contested jumpers. I thought Fatts or Jeff should've tried to get to the rim more in those first few possessions. At least try to draw contact and slow things down. Get them on their heels. Instead 3-minutes in the game was essentially over.

- I'm very puzzled by some of the takes on here. Specifically the Harris and the "don't complain about the refs" takes. This isn't professional sports. Harris is a student athlete who is playing his ass off for us. Has he played as well as we hoped he would when he signed? No, and no one is arguing that he has. But I find the agenda of shitting on the kid every other post fascinatingly strange. He's not a pro athlete under performing on a big contract, but you're acting like he is. Like there's an entitlement behind it. Quite frankly it's weird.

And as far as taking issue with those complaining about the refs...what is your angle? That everyone should shut up and accept the loss? It was a very poorly officiated game that featured 7 T's and tons of inconsistent calls. You don't look at the individual calls in a vacuum. You look at how those calls effect the game. There were missed travels all over, including one of Martin, one on CL and one on the Toppin windmill. The sequence at the end of the 1st half with the rabbit eared official was bad. And the guy who jumped on Fatts for no reason pissed me off too. The game had zero flow and that is on the officials.

- I haven't heard anyone mention how Rhody handled Dayton when they took it to the hoop. I felt that there were at least a half dozen instances where a change could've been easily drawn but we sidestepped instead. And that's not me accusing our guys of avoiding a charge, it just looked like there was a conscious effort to keep play in front of them and avoid easy alley-oops or lobs to Toppin.

- Speaking of Obie, that's the best player I've seen in the A-10 since David West.

- One minor complaint I've had all season is: Fatts is so good at breaking down his man and getting to the hoop. I wonder why they don't run more alleyoop attempts to our Toppin off those kinds of plays. Now I know you can't make a living doing that, but I feel like it would be there at least twice a game.

- Not that this has anything to do with last nights game, but I'm terrified about that Davidson game. I know we defend the 3 well and that's how they make a living, but for whatever reason I don't feel great about it.

Go Rhody!

Good post. In the Davidson game at the Ryan Center our defense got better as the game went on and our rookies figured out Davidson's offense. So unless they have gotten even better at running their offense we should be ok.

[4Diffs]

Oh and that Ref, James Breeding is the same ref we had at the WV game at the Mohegan who was terrible in that game, and also in this one. As soon as I saw his face, I had flashbacks to yelling at him constantly at that game and honestly thought it was one of the worst refereed games I had ever witnessed. He called a T on Cox in that game, and another on Harris because he had the audacity to look at him. And last night again with the real quick tech whistles on both Cox and Grant. Google him, he sucks and is a crap ref. I cannot stand when the Refs think they are part of the show, and they are beyond being questioned when bone headed calls are made, but that is this dude in spades. He is like a bad cop, they will let you know that they have all the power. I hope to never see his face again ever reffing a URI game.

I didn't know that was the same ref and all of a sudden last night makes more sense. That West Virginia game was hands down the worst refereed game I've ever been in the building for. It was so bad that by the second half I was even yelling about the foul calls we were getting

Exactly, he is just a plain bad ref, I am not saying he is biased against Rhody but I like to watch a basketball game, not a foul shooting contest, and with him, it is always the latter. And it is really hard on the players as they are used to playing a certain way all year, and then you get this guy and his unbelievable quick whistle. It is really hard to play that way. Check out the link below for another game he was involved in (with another ref from last night Tim Clougherty) which had nine technicals, 49 total fouls, 85 free throws, 3 ejections and four foul outs. Oh and the game was only a Big East semi final game. Yes he did the final four last year, so somebody thinks he is good, but I think he is a downright awful ref.

https://www.si.com/college/2019/04/01/c ... tournament

[Blue Man]

What I will not do: blame officials for my team losing a game in which we trailed 17-0; claim the officials are biased against my team with no substantiation; claim the game is fixed or that referees bet on the game; make physical threats of violence against officials, even as a joke (admittedly working on this one).

What I will do, happily, all the time: call out shitty officiating that hurts my team; acknowledge that most refs are terrible human beings.

Ok what if I agree with your post but routinely go against points 2, and 3-5.

Asking for a friend.

Me. I’m the friend.

[Rhode_Island_Red]

trying to think of any other time we've come out so "deer in the headlights". the only game i can come up with is vs UNC in the second round of the tournament (was that 1999?). hard to say what it means or how we will react. we've obviously had some bad games over the years, but not this uptight or with this talented a team. i think we will learn a lot on saturday. i'm sure the team could use a confidence boost. st. joes is not a game where we say just win and nothing else matters. i really think we need to stomp them and regain some of that mojo going into a week long respite.

1993

UNC stomped a mudhole in us that day 112-67

That game was not as close as the score would indicate. Problem was, our guys psyched themselves out — whoever represented us in a pre-game presser said when the players filled out their brackets admitted they all picked North Carolina.

[RhodyRam86]

trying to think of any other time we've come out so "deer in the headlights". the only game i can come up with is vs UNC in the second round of the tournament (was that 1999?). hard to say what it means or how we will react. we've obviously had some bad games over the years, but not this uptight or with this talented a team. i think we will learn a lot on saturday. i'm sure the team could use a confidence boost. st. joes is not a game where we say just win and nothing else matters. i really think we need to stomp them and regain some of that mojo going into a week long respite.

1993

UNC stomped a mudhole in us that day 112-67

That game was not as close as the score would indicate. Problem was, our guys psyched themselves out — whoever represented us in a pre-game presser said when the players filled out their brackets admitted they all picked North Carolina.

in the immortal words of warner wolfe...if you had Rhode Island and 44 points...You Lost!

[section(105)]

.....wow, a Warner Wolf reference, one of my all time NY favs........thx

[NYGFan_Section208]

I'm pretty sure they also said that Jacob had grown 3 inches since January. That's pretty impressive, 3 inches in 2 weeks...

I was just about to ask if anybody else heard this. By the St. Joe's game he might be 7 feet!

And if this growth spurt continues, if my calculations are correct, by the beginning of next season, he'll be 11'2". He'll definitely start if this happens.

I heard the growth spurt stats as well. He probably won't have to get to 11'.
Pretty sure he'll only have to get to about 7' to start. #growthspurt #couldhappenthisweek

[ElmCityRhody]

It’s going to be great to watch him develop even more this season and into the next.

How can I get this ram emoji on iPhone ?

I type ram and I get a sheep

[McRam]

Haven't really posted all season but because I'm a superstitious weirdo, I didn't want to during our win streak. Well now that's over and here I am.

A few observations from last nights game...

- That was your classic "this is a Top-10 team, so you need to withstand the early barrage" type game. And Rhody clearly did not. In those moments when the refs allow the super physical play early, you can't settle for contested jumpers. I thought Fatts or Jeff should've tried to get to the rim more in those first few possessions. At least try to draw contact and slow things down. Get them on their heels. Instead 3-minutes in the game was essentially over.

- I'm very puzzled by some of the takes on here. Specifically the Harris and the "don't complain about the refs" takes. This isn't professional sports. Harris is a student athlete who is playing his ass off for us. Has he played as well as we hoped he would when he signed? No, and no one is arguing that he has. But I find the agenda of shitting on the kid every other post fascinatingly strange. He's not a pro athlete under performing on a big contract, but you're acting like he is. Like there's an entitlement behind it. Quite frankly it's weird.

And as far as taking issue with those complaining about the refs...what is your angle? That everyone should shut up and accept the loss? It was a very poorly officiated game that featured 7 T's and tons of inconsistent calls. You don't look at the individual calls in a vacuum. You look at how those calls effect the game. There were missed travels all over, including one of Martin, one on CL and one on the Toppin windmill. The sequence at the end of the 1st half with the rabbit eared official was bad. And the guy who jumped on Fatts for no reason pissed me off too. The game had zero flow and that is on the officials.

- I haven't heard anyone mention how Rhody handled Dayton when they took it to the hoop. I felt that there were at least a half dozen instances where a change could've been easily drawn but we sidestepped instead. And that's not me accusing our guys of avoiding a charge, it just looked like there was a conscious effort to keep play in front of them and avoid easy alley-oops or lobs to Toppin.

- Speaking of Obie, that's the best player I've seen in the A-10 since David West.

- One minor complaint I've had all season is: Fatts is so good at breaking down his man and getting to the hoop. I wonder why they don't run more alleyoop attempts to our Toppin off those kinds of plays. Now I know you can't make a living doing that, but I feel like it would be there at least twice a game.

- Not that this has anything to do with last nights game, but I'm terrified about that Davidson game. I know we defend the 3 well and that's how they make a living, but for whatever reason I don't feel great about it.

Go Rhody!

Good post. In the Davidson game at the Ryan Center our defense got better as the game went on and our rookies figured out Davidson's offense. So unless they have gotten even better at running their offense we should be ok.

I agree, really apprehensive about this game at Davidson. Guessing pretty much a pick em on this one.
As I recall their fresman Lee from South Korea did not play in the game at the Ryan. He is a deadly 3 pt shooter and gives them another option when he is in.

Also a weird starting time at 530 pm.

For those not seeing my ticket exchange post , I have 2 tickets -no charge for this game. I will be there with my son.
cCheck out Allegiant. I think there r flights out of Providence to Myrtle beach and then a three hr ride . Could be a $39 ish type of fare

Charlotte is 20 -30 minutes from Davidson. 45 min Winston Salem.

[Taylor Swift]

It’s going to be great to watch him develop even more this season and into the next.

How can I get this ram emoji on iPhone ?

I type ram and I get a sheep

When you click on the globe icon to get the emojis, scroll over to the “teddy bear” icon thing where all of the “animals and nature” ones are. Ram is top one in 6th column. Sheepy is right below the Ram!

[ElmCityRhody]

Thx but was looking for the one in Mrs
Toppin’s tweet - the more cartoon one

[Taylor Swift]

Thx but was looking for the one in Mrs
Toppin’s tweet - the more cartoon one

Ahhh... well I can solve that one for you too. That’s the neon text filter on Instagram.

[ElmCityRhody]

Darn - not on Instagram

[NYGFan_Section208]

It’s going to be great to watch him develop even more this season and into the next.

How can I get this ram emoji on iPhone ?

I type ram and I get a sheep

I think it can see you, and it just 'makes the call'?

[steviep123]

trying to think of any other time we've come out so "deer in the headlights". the only game i can come up with is vs UNC in the second round of the tournament (was that 1999?). hard to say what it means or how we will react. we've obviously had some bad games over the years, but not this uptight or with this talented a team. i think we will learn a lot on saturday. i'm sure the team could use a confidence boost. st. joes is not a game where we say just win and nothing else matters. i really think we need to stomp them and regain some of that mojo going into a week long respite.

1992 vs. UMass at Keaney. Rhody was 12-1 and on an 8 game winning streak. This was when UMass was starting to be good in Calipari’s time there. You could tell from the warmups they were tight. UMass pretty much came out on fire and it had a large lead between 15 and 20 most of the game. Rhody made a run late to cut it to around 7(?) and ultimately lost by 13. They then won 6 of the next 8 and we’re 18-4 with 5 games to play. Unfortunately they lost 4 of those then 1-1 in the A10 costing a bid. They then went onto beat Vanderbilt and that great bc game in double ot before falling at Utah.

[daytonflyerfan]

This is the type of game where they really miss a low post scoring option. That is where Dayton can be had, but we have no one who can score in the low post with any kind of consistency. It might have been nice to actually throw it in there and give it a try though as nothing else was working.

I disagree about RI not having a low post scoring option...you have Cyril who you did not use nearly enough at least in the 2nd half...totally agree with the rest of your post though, they should have rode Cyril much more

DFF: Langevine is shooting 47.7 percent from the field, much lower than the last two years.

Yes, he is shooting 48% this year vs. 57% last year...agree to disagree...they still should have been feeding him more, otherwise, if they are not going to feed him, then put in somebody else who they will feed

[daytonflyerfan]

And I still do not understand not pressing or trapping in the 2nd half either, they just gave up, they made no effort to turn up the defensive intensity and try to turn defense into offense and actually try to win the game...I was just not impressed with the 2nd half coaching.

[ramster]

I disagree about RI not having a low post scoring option...you have Cyril who you did not use nearly enough at least in the 2nd half...totally agree with the rest of your post though, they should have rode Cyril much more

DFF: Langevine is shooting 47.7 percent from the field, much lower than the last two years.

Yes, he is shooting 48% this year vs. 57% last year...agree to disagree...they still should have been feeding him more, otherwise, if they are not going to feed him, then put in somebody else who they will feed

We haven’t looked to feed Harris or Langevine most all year. Dowtin threw a nice lob pass to Langevine for an easy bucket last night but passes like that are not made very often. I don’t know why we don’t pass inside more but we just don’t. So no surprise last night.

[DC_Rams]

DFF: Langevine is shooting 47.7 percent from the field, much lower than the last two years.

Yes, he is shooting 48% this year vs. 57% last year...agree to disagree...they still should have been feeding him more, otherwise, if they are not going to feed him, then put in somebody else who they will feed

We haven’t looked to feed Harris or Langevine most all year. Dowtin threw a nice lob pass to Langevine for an easy bucket last night but passes like that are not made very often. I don’t know why we don’t pass inside more but we just don’t. So no surprise last night.

Because our bigs aren’t the prototypical BIGs. Neither are good at having their backs to the basket. Cyril seemingly has one move...the bull in a china shop, shoulder dropping charge to the basket.

Jermaine just isn’t aggressive enough.

Neither of them do well with the ball on the block. The staff therefore tries to get them buckets off of pick and rolls.

[reef]

Yes, he is shooting 48% this year vs. 57% last year...agree to disagree...they still should have been feeding him more, otherwise, if they are not going to feed him, then put in somebody else who they will feed

We haven’t looked to feed Harris or Langevine most all year. Dowtin threw a nice lob pass to Langevine for an easy bucket last night but passes like that are not made very often. I don’t know why we don’t pass inside more but we just don’t. So no surprise last night.

Because our bigs aren’t the prototypical BIGs. Neither are good at having their backs to the basket. Cyril seemingly has one move...the bull in a china shop, shoulder dropping charge to the basket.

Jermaine just isn’t aggressive enough.

Neither of them do well with the ball on the block. The staff therefore tries to get them buckets off of pick and rolls.

Agree with this it’s hard for Cyril to score when he catches it with back to basket when he is guarded by a guy his size

He gets most of his offense on put backs and guards driving and dishing to him for a slam

[ElmCityRhody]

It’s going to be great to watch him develop even more this season and into the next.

How can I get this ram emoji on iPhone ?

I type ram and I get a sheep

I think it can see you, and it just 'makes the call'?

funny cas this pretty much describes me - so i think you are onto something ....


Reality: Sheep are actually surprisingly intelligent, with impressive memory and recognition skills. They build friendships, stick up for one another in fights, and feel sad when their friends are sent to slaughter. They are also one of the most destructive creatures on the planet. Intelligent

[UD90]

I waited a few days to post. From a Dayton perspective a few thoughts.
1.) The 17-0 run to start the game was the second best run I've seen out of Dayton since our 22-0 run on VCU in the second half of that game. They looked as dialed in as I've seen since November/December.
2.) The officiating was terrible both ways. 52 fouls 7 technicals eliminated any flow for either team beyond the initial run for the rest of the game. Painful to watch.
3.) URI is still the best A10 opponent we've faced and I expect them to be 15-2 when we play again.
4.) This is a special year in Dayton and clearly Obi is worth an additional 6-8 wins for this team. Heard Jacob grew 3 inches already this year. His frame is similar to Obi's when Obi arrived on campus. Jacob will terrorize the A10 over the next 2-3 years. Toppins are good people.
6.) I still think the game in Kingston is the most dangerous left on the schedule for us. I expect it to be the battle we expected for this one provided the zebras let the boys play.
7.) Good luck the rest of the way. Let's make some noise in the NCAAs.

[reef]

Congrats UD90 you got a heck of a team there good luck the rest of the way

[Running Ram]

Gotta say, unlike some other team's fans, the Dayton fans that find their way to KB are some of the finest. You guys really do your fan base justice. Respectful, stay on topic, bring good info and talking points. Thank you for your contributions.

[LoveThoseRams]

Gotta say, unlike some other team's fans, the Dayton fans that find their way to KB are some of the finest. You guys really do your fan base justice. Respectful, stay on topic, bring good info and talking points. Thank you for your contributions.

Can’t agree more. On this board and in person. They are always collegial and good sports.

[UD90]

Thank you for the compliments. I have to say my best experiences have been engaging with URI and VCU boards. Actually, I often find myself arguing more with fellow Dayton fans on our boards more than opponents. It is fun to have discussions with fans who aren't drinking the Dayton red and blue kool aid (even though the kool aid is pretty damn good this year).

The Blackburn Review did an interview with Scott Van Pelt that was awesome. It was awesome not because it was about Dayton, but because it was about enjoying the moments this great sport brings to us. The reality is that we probably won't see an A10 team win the national championship in our lifetime. It is fun to hope it happens though. The 2014 Elite 8 run was the celing for Dayton since I graduated in 1990. After listening to this podcast and reflecting on all the things that fell into place for that Elite 8 run I realized that is what makes the tournament so great. Teams like Dayton, Rhode Island, VCU, and SLU have the facilities, fan support, and programs to make some noise in the tournament more often than not. The reality of it is that "making some noise" means making it to the second weekend.

Sure it is possible that one of the top teams from the A10 could make the final four or possibly win the whole thing in a year like this, but it is just as possible that we lose in the second round.

So with that being said ... Here is a great interview where Scott Van Pelt puts everything in perspective. Enjoy the moment and I'll be pulling for my Flyers and every other A10 team in the hunt when they aren't playing us. The only A10 team I never would root for and never will root for is _avier.

https://soundcloud.com/blackburn-review ... -sully-svp

[PeterRamTime]

If theres a year where the A-10 can get a national title it's this year...

[luke]

UD90 I think Dayton has an equal chance as any team this year to win the Championship . Of course there are probably 6-8 teams in that boat and
it can be said that it is less than a 40% chance in each team's case that they will win the Tournament . Not a bad spot to be in though, huh ? All Dayton
has to do to win iis to play consistent Dayton basketball each game and shoot the ball as well as they have all season . After the first two games they
will be unable to afford an off night shooting , a lack of defensive intensity or a lack of focus taking care of the ball . Avoid any of that and I give them
even money to win it all .

[ramster]

Oh and that Ref, James Breeding is the same ref we had at the WV game at the Mohegan who was terrible in that game, and also in this one. As soon as I saw his face, I had flashbacks to yelling at him constantly at that game and honestly thought it was one of the worst refereed games I had ever witnessed. He called a T on Cox in that game, and another on Harris because he had the audacity to look at him. And last night again with the real quick tech whistles on both Cox and Grant. Google him, he sucks and is a crap ref. I cannot stand when the Refs think they are part of the show, and they are beyond being questioned when bone headed calls are made, but that is this dude in spades. He is like a bad cop, they will let you know that they have all the power. I hope to never see his face again ever reffing a URI game.

I didn't know that was the same ref and all of a sudden last night makes more sense. That West Virginia game was hands down the worst refereed game I've ever been in the building for. It was so bad that by the second half I was even yelling about the foul calls we were getting

Exactly, he is just a plain bad ref, I am not saying he is biased against Rhody but I like to watch a basketball game, not a foul shooting contest, and with him, it is always the latter. And it is really hard on the players as they are used to playing a certain way all year, and then you get this guy and his unbelievable quick whistle. It is really hard to play that way. Check out the link below for another game he was involved in (with another ref from last night Tim Clougherty) which had nine technicals, 49 total fouls, 85 free throws, 3 ejections and four foul outs. Oh and the game was only a Big East semi final game. Yes he did the final four last year, so somebody thinks he is good, but I think he is a downright awful ref.

https://www.si.com/college/2019/04/01/c ... tournament

PC Seton Hall Game tonight had 5 Technical Fouls. James Breeding called all 5. Comments from PC Board attached below.
Many complaints about the officiating and in particular the same James Breeding from our Dayton game

I’m not one to complain about officiating. By the end of the season the calls all balance out in my opinion

But every now and then some poor performing official pops up. I remember many times shaking my head in amazement with the horrible calls that Tim Higgins used to make, and he was around for a long time to my chagrin and astonishment. All Eastern Schools used to complain about Higgins.

The ball out of bounds prior to halftime in Dayton Game that has been mentioned here was a terrible call. Don’t know honestly how anybody could miss this one. Obviously someone on our bench was equally incredulous about the bad call. The Technical foul was a bad call. Brings to mind the old saying “2 wrongs don’t make a right”. Can’t imagine how the other 2 officials didn’t reverse it or at least discuss it.

NCAA needs to look into this official, James Breeding, and the group of officials he works with.

Refs should be rating one another, so I wonder how My Breeding is “performing” in the peer ratings system.

Videos of that bad “ball out of bounds” call should clearly show the Head of officials that obviously the wrong call was made.

PC Thread on Officials for Seton Hall Game - yes Officiating by Breeding earned its own thread
https://247sports.com/college/providenc ... 143873490/

[reef]

James Breeding should never ref another game again

[ramster]

Breeding is a Big East Official

https://www.si.com/college/2019/04/01/c ... tournament

And the guy who called this famous foul

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sp ... uy-referee

[Billyboy78]

I didn't know that was the same ref and all of a sudden last night makes more sense. That West Virginia game was hands down the worst refereed game I've ever been in the building for. It was so bad that by the second half I was even yelling about the foul calls we were getting

Exactly, he is just a plain bad ref, I am not saying he is biased against Rhody but I like to watch a basketball game, not a foul shooting contest, and with him, it is always the latter. And it is really hard on the players as they are used to playing a certain way all year, and then you get this guy and his unbelievable quick whistle. It is really hard to play that way. Check out the link below for another game he was involved in (with another ref from last night Tim Clougherty) which had nine technicals, 49 total fouls, 85 free throws, 3 ejections and four foul outs. Oh and the game was only a Big East semi final game. Yes he did the final four last year, so somebody thinks he is good, but I think he is a downright awful ref.

https://www.si.com/college/2019/04/01/c ... tournament

PC Seton Hall Game tonight had 5 Technical Fouls. James Breeding called all 5. Comments from PC Board attached below.
Many complaints about the officiating and in particular the same James Breeding from our Dayton game

I’m not one to complain about officiating. By the end of the season the calls all balance out in my opinion

But every now and then some poor performing official pops up. I remember many times shaking my head in amazement with the horrible calls that Tim Higgins used to make, and he was around for a long time to my chagrin and astonishment. All Eastern Schools used to complain about Higgins.

The ball out of bounds prior to halftime in Dayton Game that has been mentioned here was a terrible call. Don’t know honestly how anybody could miss this one. Obviously someone on our bench was equally incredulous about the bad call. The Technical foul was a bad call. Brings to mind the old saying “2 wrongs don’t make a right”. Can’t imagine how the other 2 officials didn’t reverse it or at least discuss it.

NCAA needs to look into this official, James Breeding, and the group of officials he works with.

Refs should be rating one another, so I wonder how My Breeding is “performing” in the peer ratings system.

Videos of that bad “ball out of bounds” call should clearly show the Head of officials that obviously the wrong call was made.

PC Thread on Officials for Seton Hall Game - yes Officiating by Breeding earned its own thread
https://247sports.com/college/providenc ... 143873490/

Funny, we were just discussing the Temple game in Keaney in '88 when Macon was a freshman. Tim Higgins officiated that game. IIRC correctly, he called 2 early fouls on Tommy Garrick which totally changed the game.