Asst. Coach Posting?

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 4 years ago

CamsRams wrote: ↑4 years ago Any chance it’s Bob Walsh?

No. They've passed on Walsh, Wheeler and Skinner.

RAM67 · Unread post by **RAM67** » 4 years ago

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 years ago
RAM67 wrote: ↑4 years ago A lifetime pension?
An accountant, banker, or financial advisor, I am not, but isn't the intent of a pension to make payments for a ... lifetime?
Unless you take the lump sum, aren't all pensions "lifetime"?

I guess you had to have grown up in Providence to see the humor in this.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 4 years ago

RAM67 wrote: ↑4 years ago
NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 years ago
RAM67 wrote: ↑4 years ago A lifetime pension?
An accountant, banker, or financial advisor, I am not, but isn't the intent of a pension to make payments for a ... lifetime?
Unless you take the lump sum, aren't all pensions "lifetime"?
I guess you had to have grown up in Providence to see the humor in this.

Unfortunately, I did not, but would be interested in the background over a brew sometime

Rhodyhooopz · Unread post by **Rhodyhooopz** » 4 years ago

14 pages. can we just please get an asst coach!

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 4 years ago

We did get one hire within the 14 pages - TJ

The players have started to arrive back on campus. They will all be back this weekend.
Should have a new coach for them by then.

Taylor Swift · Unread post by **Taylor Swift** » 4 years ago

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑4 years ago
theblueram wrote: ↑4 years ago What's a pension?
...asked the private sector worker

Even better, what's employer sponsored healthcare?

Regretting not trying to not get a state or muni job when I graduated.

CamsRams · Unread post by **CamsRams** » 4 years ago

Any rumored candidates?

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 4 years ago

I don't know if T.J. Sorrentine is in the mix, or if he is even interested, but I think he'd be a great addition. Although it could get a little confusing......" Hey, T.J.".

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 4 years ago

My guess is they want someone with D1 major or high mid-major recruiting experience. So Sorrentine wouldn’t fit.
If they are passing on Bob Walsh, they aren’t hiring Sorrentine.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 4 years ago

Thought this was interesting and highlights the differences in resources between some programs, being able to keep spare guys with head coaching experience around in addition to the recruiting assistants:

Nikola Knezevic worked as PC’s associate director of player development and video operations for the last several years. Walsh is replacing him but will be asked to assist in other duties as well. Creighton, Marquette and Xavier are among the many programs around the country that have former Division One head coaches working in non-recruiting positions.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 4 years ago

ace wrote: ↑4 years ago

Grrr

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 4 years ago

phipsiGD'11 · Unread post by **phipsiGD'11** » 4 years ago

Too bad we cant get Luke Murray back. Seems to be making a good name for himself out there.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 4 years ago

So, according to Iggy, we passed on Walsh and now he's at PC. What the hell is going on here?

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 4 years ago

Walsh will not be an assistant coach at PC. They already have three assistants. He will not be able to participate in practices or recruiting. I guess he can help with scouting. He is replacing the associate director of player development and video operations.

RhowdyRam02 · Unread post by **RhowdyRam02** » 4 years ago

Rhodymob05 · Unread post by **Rhodymob05** » 4 years ago

Seems like Walsh is better qualified then associate director of basketball operations. Wth

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 4 years ago

Rhodymob05 wrote: ↑4 years ago Seems like Walsh is better qualified then associate director of basketball operations. Wth

I imagine he’ll get some title like Special Assistant to the Head Coach, especially since the article mentioned schools like Xavier and Creighton (Judson, Merfeld). They each have a former D1 head coach in that role, and it’s a tremendous luxury to a staff to have an extra guy like that.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 4 years ago

ace wrote: ↑4 years ago
Rhodymob05 wrote: ↑4 years ago Seems like Walsh is better qualified then associate director of basketball operations. Wth
I imagine he’ll get some title like Special Assistant to the Head Coach, especially since the article mentioned schools like Xavier and Creighton (Judson, Merfeld). They each have a former D1 head coach in that role, and it’s a tremendous luxury to a staff to have an extra guy like that.

These schools have the money to afford the special assistant role either in their MBB budget or donor money. Again, these positions aren’t allowed to coach the players or recruit. Consultants to the HC. Can step on the Assistant Coaches doing the scouts.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 4 years ago

Perhaps they’re hiring Williams for a sign and trade with UMass to get Wheeler.

I’m sure that’s totally legit.

(hi RR02!)

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 4 years ago

Not to make anyone upset, but I don’t get all the fuss about Bob Walsh, honestly.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 4 years ago

phipsiGD'11 wrote: ↑4 years ago Too bad we cant get Luke Murray back. Seems to be making a good name for himself out there.

That will never happen. URI could never afford him again. Rhody pays its assistants peanuts. The only way that URI will ever have a Murray, Skerry, Murphy, etc... is when they are young and have little experience (and will soon be gone after a few years). Highly sought after good experienced assistants are never going to come here.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 4 years ago

RF1 wrote: ↑4 years ago
phipsiGD'11 wrote: ↑4 years ago Too bad we cant get Luke Murray back. Seems to be making a good name for himself out there.
That will never happen. URI could never afford him again. Rhody pays its assistants peanuts. The only way that URI will ever have a Murray, Skerry, Murphy, etc... is when they are young and have little experience (and will soon be gone after a few years). Highly sought after good experienced assistants are never going to come here.

I agree about not competing with the P5 + BE on assistant compensation. Saying it is peanuts might be a slight exaggeration. Cox was paid well as an assistant and Sutton is paid well now. Boswell at $145,000 for his experience wasn’t peanuts. Hopefully if URI increases is MBB revenue, the assistant compensation pool will grow. I know Coach Cox will fight for that as he gets negotiating leverage.

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 4 years ago

TruePoint wrote: ↑4 years ago Not to make anyone upset, but I don’t get all the fuss about Bob Walsh, honestly.

+1000000000

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 4 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑4 years ago
RF1 wrote: ↑4 years ago
phipsiGD'11 wrote: ↑4 years ago Too bad we cant get Luke Murray back. Seems to be making a good name for himself out there.
That will never happen. URI could never afford him again. Rhody pays its assistants peanuts. The only way that URI will ever have a Murray, Skerry, Murphy, etc... is when they are young and have little experience (and will soon be gone after a few years). Highly sought after good experienced assistants are never going to come here.
I agree about not competing with the P5 + BE on assistant compensation. Saying it is peanuts might be a slight exaggeration. Cox was paid well as an assistant and Sutton is paid well now. Boswell at $145,000 for his experience wasn’t peanuts. Hopefully if URI increases is MBB revenue, the assistant compensation pool will grow. I know Coach Cox will fight for that as he gets negotiating leverage.

They really weren’t/aren’t paid well comparatively speaking from whence they came.

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 4 years ago

TruePoint wrote: ↑4 years ago Not to make anyone upset, but I don’t get all the fuss about Bob Walsh, honestly.

Walsh is seen as a respected person and someone with high basketball IQ and strong coaching acumen. He did a fantastic job at RIC, going to 8 tournaments in 9 years after the school went to 3 in the previous 35. He should have never taken on the Maine job as Maine has been a death-trap and very challenging to recruit for basketball. Last year he spent time at IMG Academy working with elite high school prospects, and was on the staff for the Pan-Am Games with Coach Cooley. I don’t know how I would feel about him if you needed a strong recruiter on a staff (although he certainly has some connections), but as an X’s and O’s guy he’s definitely strong there.

Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 4 years ago

rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑4 years ago
TruePoint wrote: ↑4 years ago Not to make anyone upset, but I don’t get all the fuss about Bob Walsh, honestly.
Walsh is seen as a respected person and someone with high basketball IQ and strong coaching acumen. He did a fantastic job at RIC, going to 8 tournaments in 9 years after the school went to 3 in the previous 35. He should have never taken on the Maine job as Maine has been a death-trap and very challenging to recruit for basketball. Last year he spent time at IMG Academy working with elite high school prospects, and was on the staff for the Pan-Am Games with Coach Cooley. I don’t know how I would feel about him if you needed a strong recruiter on a staff (although he certainly has some connections), but as an X’s and O’s guy he’s definitely strong there.

If he took a similar post at URI I would be thrilled.

Cameron_Dollar · Unread post by **Cameron_Dollar** » 4 years ago

He expressed interest in the open position but there was none on URI's part. It's obvious that both Hurley and Cox have little or no interest in hiring coaches with local ties (TJ excluded because he played for them). Hey, it's their program and they have a right to fill it with whom they so choose.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 4 years ago

Can't wait to meet the new coach who has a better resume than Walsh and Wheeler!

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 4 years ago

Well, it's the end of another week.....

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 4 years ago

How many interviews have been conducted???

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 4 years ago

Here’s to hoping the week goes until Sunday and something leaks by then.

First day of practice is Sept 24th. Rhody should have a full staff by then

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 4 years ago

reef wrote: ↑4 years ago How many interviews have been conducted???

Too many.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 4 years ago

Interesting to note in the Job Posting for this job was a contract thru April 30, 2020. So was the assistant job that TJ was hired for. They are lining up all of the staffs’ contracts for April 30th expirations.
Renewals tend to be a given as long as the Head Coach doesn’t get fired or leaves. More recently we are seeing an increase in assistants being let go when the HC is retained. That makes the current job opening guaranteed for 8 months. Not a positive.

theblueram · Unread post by **theblueram** » 4 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑4 years ago Interesting to note in the Job Posting for this job was a contract thru April 30, 2020. So was the assistant job that TJ was hired for. They are lining up all of the staffs’ contracts for April 30th expirations.
Renewals tend to be a given as long as the Head Coach doesn’t get fired or leaves. More recently we are seeing an increase in assistants being let go when the HC is retained. That makes the current job opening guaranteed for 8 months. Not a positive.

Recruiting hasn't been on fire, so there's that.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 4 years ago

They can't have a contract go past the state's FY

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 4 years ago

Iggy1979 wrote: ↑4 years ago They can't have a contract go past the state's FY

Did the state change it’s fiscal year end? Boswell’s and Carroll’s contracts expired May 31st.

Edit: from ri.gov
Fiscal Year (FY): A twelve-month state accounting period, which varies from a calendar year and federal fiscal year. The fiscal year for Rhode Island State government begins on July 1 and ends on June 30.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 4 years ago

Hearing Carroll might be given an administrative job and they've interviewed his son for the coaching job

DC_Rams · Unread post by **DC_Rams** » 4 years ago

Carroll’s son is DOBO at Arizona. Was somewhat promoted when Book Richardson got in trouble. He also played for Cox at Rutgers for a couple seasons. I don’t know if he’s a finalist, but we should all know something soon.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 4 years ago

Austin Carroll no longer listed on Arizona site

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 4 years ago

What experience does he have? I thought 2 years minimum was the requirement?

Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 4 years ago

Doesn’t seem to meet the requirements:
https://arizonawildcats.com/coaches.aspx?rc=394

Bos8 · Unread post by **Bos8** » 4 years ago

His son could really shoot the ball.

Rhodyram · Unread post by **Rhodyram** » 4 years ago

Rhody74 wrote: ↑4 years ago Doesn’t seem to meet the requirements:
https://arizonawildcats.com/coaches.aspx?rc=394

Prob depends on what they consider 2 years of experience to be.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 4 years ago

a second year head coach with two twenty-something first-time assistants would be quite the bold move

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 4 years ago

Ugh we're totally going to screw this hire up aren't we...

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 4 years ago

adam914 wrote: ↑4 years ago Ugh we're totally going to screw this hire up aren't we...

That's what happens late in the process. Not a lot of candidates out there.

rhodylaw · Unread post by **rhodylaw** » 4 years ago

ace wrote: ↑4 years ago a second year head coach with two twenty-something first-time assistants would be quite the bold move

I agree - but I think it is a better move than getting a guy with “experience” just for the sake of experience. I would rather we identify young coaching talent and role with it then bring in guys who have tried and failed. I have no doubt that coach cox can teach a guy to be a good assistant, he was one of the best assistants in the game.

Rhody74 · Unread post by **Rhody74** » 4 years ago

adam914 wrote: ↑4 years ago Ugh we're totally going to screw this hire up aren't we...

I’m withholding judgement until we know who is being hired.

Iggy1979 · Unread post by **Iggy1979** » 4 years ago

Told Austin Carroll has been in Kingston for awhile.