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Posted: **Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:08 pm**

steviep123 wrote: ↑2 years ago Fully admitting I know nothing about Young - would he be getting serious looks if Hurley hadn’t been ejected from that game? Was that the catalyst?

He's been mentioned in a good amount of "up and coming" type articles.
https://theathletic.com/1257628/2019/10 ... l-coaches/ need a subscription but this is when I first remember hearing about him.

Posted: **Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:09 pm**

He's also had a legal issue that will have to be overcome

Posted: **Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:13 pm**

RF1 wrote: ↑2 years ago Young has an interesting story as he was in a federal prison just some 20 years ago for possession of 96 pounds of marijuana.

Kimani Young, Overcoming Adversity, Tragedy, Offers Life Lessons For UConn Men
https://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-me ... story.html

But it was just for personal use, so that's cool.

Posted: **Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:34 pm**

RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑2 years ago
Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 years ago
RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑2 years ago

Please highlight where I said I didn't want him or said this was disqualifying
If anything can be brought up as a negative about a coach, you post or reply. Every single time.
So just like always you've got nothing because your reading comprehension is less than zero and you're too focused on being an aggressive shitposter to actually make one decent point

Ahh there it is!

Someone disagrees with me / I call it how I see it and I instantly become a PC fan and/or I can't understand posts.

Posted: **Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:36 pm**

Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 years ago
RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑2 years ago
Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 years ago

If anything can be brought up as a negative about a coach, you post or reply. Every single time.
So just like always you've got nothing because your reading comprehension is less than zero and you're too focused on being an aggressive shitposter to actually make one decent point
Ahh there it is!

Someone disagrees with me / I call it how I see it and I instantly become a PC fan and/or I can't understand posts.

Maybe you need glasses?

Posted: **Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:40 pm**

theblueram wrote: ↑2 years ago
Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 years ago
RhowdyRam02 wrote: ↑2 years ago

So just like always you've got nothing because your reading comprehension is less than zero and you're too focused on being an aggressive shitposter to actually make one decent point
Ahh there it is!

Someone disagrees with me / I call it how I see it and I instantly become a PC fan and/or I can't understand posts.
Maybe you need glasses?

Definitely, maybe even two pairs.

Posted: **Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:53 pm**

PeterRamTime wrote: ↑2 years ago
Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 years ago
RF1 wrote: ↑2 years ago Young has an interesting story as he was in a federal prison just some 20 years ago for possession of 96 pounds of marijuana.

Kimani Young, Overcoming Adversity, Tragedy, Offers Life Lessons For UConn Men
https://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-me ... story.html
And here it comes!

He’s not holier than thou! He should be fired immediately! Give him a show cause for 20 years!

Hahahaha this is too predictable. Pointing out every single coaches flaw in life.
I mean who doesn't have 96 pounds of weed just laying around the house?

Nowadays, not necessary. It's such the commodity now, you just run out to the store and grab some when you need it. It's like stocking up on bread, or eggs. Let 'em keep it fresh there at the store. (This all according to a friend)

Posted: **Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:07 pm**

20 years ago doesn't matter; its only the recent past that would matter

i would believe thorr would do a background check before an offer is made

Posted: **Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:11 pm**

kal-65 wrote: ↑2 years ago 20 years ago doesn't matter; its only the recent past that would matter

i would believe thorr would do a background check before an offer is made

So a felony will come up in the background check for Kimani.

Posted: **Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:15 pm**

I dont think anybody would give a damn about his weed bs

Posted: **Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:23 pm**

He went to prison for a year, it’s hardly a secret. It also seems like forever ago that it happened, given how much he has been through and accomplished since then.

Posted: **Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:49 pm**

ace wrote: ↑2 years ago He went to prison for a year, it’s hardly a secret. It also seems like forever ago that it happened, given how much he has been through and accomplished since then.

That makes me like him more.

They won't cuss him out on the bench...

Posted: **Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:59 pm**

SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑2 years ago

I would be stoked if we got Crean I hope Thorr at least makes a call

Posted: **Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:27 pm**

I don’t care someone went to prison. Although we have a lot of Holier than thou types here that probably will. I just can’t f’n believe people on here want to go the assistant coach route again. On top of that the fact that people want to hire another Dan Hurley assistant is absolutely mind boggling. It’s freaking twilight zone stuff. WTF!!!

GO RHODY!

Posted: **Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:41 pm**

Yeah I want a guy with previous head coaching experience at the D1 level we can’t take a chance again at least now after Cox

Posted: **Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:04 pm**

PeterRamTime wrote: ↑2 years ago I dont think anybody would give a damn about his weed bs

Seems like multiple people here do!

Like they do with EVERYTHING regarding potential coaches.

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:29 am**

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:41 am**

Going to ask a question, not sure i know the answer.

What is a better job URI or FGCU and why do you think your choice is better?

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:49 am**

McRam wrote: ↑2 years ago
brady1 wrote: ↑2 years ago I don’t care someone went to prison. Although we have a lot of Holier than thou types here that probably will. I just can’t f’n believe people on here want to go the assistant coach route again. On top of that the fact that people want to hire another Dan Hurley assistant is absolutely mind boggling. It’s freaking twilight zone stuff. WTF!!!

GO RHODY!

Head coaching experience is just ONE of the qualities to be evaluated when making a coaching decision. It is not a "must have" characteristic. There are many assistants that become head coaches and are successful right away.

We don't have far to see that Fordham's hire of assistant Kyle Neptune was an excellent choice and it is fair to say that that hiring decision was not in the "twilight zone".

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 1:07 pm**

Rhodyhooopz wrote: ↑2 years ago Going to ask a question, not sure i know the answer.

What is a better job URI or FGCU and why do you think your choice is better?

Don’t know what the $ difference is so unfair to me comment on that

Otherwise, unequivocally URI. Better conference and larger stage.

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 1:17 pm**

Rhodyhooopz wrote: ↑2 years ago Going to ask a question, not sure i know the answer.

What is a better job URI or FGCU and why do you think your choice is better?

FGCU, it’s Florida, winter here sucks.

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 1:26 pm**

I think its close- Rhody, but not by much

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 1:35 pm**

Rhodyhooopz wrote: ↑2 years ago Going to ask a question, not sure i know the answer.

What is a better job URI or FGCU and why do you think your choice is better?

Joe Dooley thought URI, and I'm inclined to agree with him. He was head coach at FGCU and interviewed here to replace Hurley

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 1:42 pm**

CaptainRon wrote: ↑2 years ago
Rhodyhooopz wrote: ↑2 years ago Going to ask a question, not sure i know the answer.

What is a better job URI or FGCU and why do you think your choice is better?
FGCU, it’s Florida, winter here sucks.

If that was the case, why isn't every Florida mid major competing for NCAA trips and every P6 program contending for Final Fours every year?

URI is a much much better job than FGCU.

More money, better facilities, better TV deal, can get an at large birth in the A10.

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:21 pm**

SmartyBarrett wrote: ↑2 years ago

Smart move by Enfield has done a nice job @ USC

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:36 pm**

Rhody15 wrote: ↑2 years ago
CaptainRon wrote: ↑2 years ago
Rhodyhooopz wrote: ↑2 years ago Going to ask a question, not sure i know the answer.

What is a better job URI or FGCU and why do you think your choice is better?
FGCU, it’s Florida, winter here sucks.
If that was the case, why isn't every Florida mid major competing for NCAA trips and every P6 program contending for Final Fours every year?

URI is a much much better job than FGCU.

More money, better facilities, better TV deal, can get an at large birth in the A10.

All that is true, but any coach they look at isn’t likely old like me. The question asked what Is my choice and I hate the cold. Lol

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:05 pm**

Xavier and Butler both about to be in the coaching carousel.

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:09 pm**

Agree Xavier gags away another bid were a virtual lock 3 weeks ago on the 8 line

They 13-29 line should seal T Steele fate

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:28 pm**

bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago Xavier and Butler both about to be in the coaching carousel.

Xavier absolutely stinks. Shouldn’t be anywhere near the bubble.

Never made the tourney under Steele.

…also never even finished about .500 in conference!

Unacceptable for Xavier standards.

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:29 pm**

Travis Steele is 0 for 4 in tourney bids. I can’t imagine Xavier is going to put up with that. They were a #1 or 2 seed the year before he took over.

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:45 pm**

bigappleram wrote: ↑2 years ago Xavier and Butler both about to be in the coaching carousel.

Travis Steele has been a disappointment.

If Butler moves on I would take a look at Lavall Jordan.
They beat Arkansas in the NCAAT(2018) and only lost to #10 Purdue by 3 in the 2nd round.
In 2020 they probably would have gotten a bid.

Only 42 and was a top recruiter for John Beilein at Michigan.
He also specialized in the development of guards.

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:54 pm**

Xavier people have had it with Steele. They sound like us with Cox. They seem to want Miller or a return of the Mack. I certainly can understand their disdain for him.

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:59 pm**

Colleges have no patience with basketball coaches that don't produce.

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:00 pm**

giovanni wrote: ↑2 years ago Xavier people have had it with Steele. They sound like us with Cox. They seem to want Miller or a return of the Mack. I certainly can understand their disdain for him.

Which Miller? Sean had a great run there.

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:10 pm**

Good question. I assumed it was Archie, but maybe or probably Sean actually since he coached there before. I didn't read too far all I kept seeing was a reference to Miller

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:18 pm**

Rhody72 wrote: ↑2 years ago Colleges have no patience with basketball coaches that don't produce.

If you haven't noticed , it's not the 80s anymore where guys were getting paid $50 thousand. They make considerably more and are paid to produce. This is a big business for many schools, and the coaches are paid that way. High risk, high reward.

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:39 pm**

giovanni wrote: ↑2 years ago
Rhody72 wrote: ↑2 years ago Colleges have no patience with basketball coaches that don't produce.
If you haven't noticed , it's not the 80s anymore where guys were getting paid $50 thousand. They make considerably more and are paid to produce. This is a big business for many schools, and the coaches are paid that way. High risk, high reward.

I mean the money is irrelevant. Doesn’t change the probability of success

For every win, there’s a loss. Not every team can be successful every year

Posted: **Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:32 pm**

giovanni wrote: ↑2 years ago Xavier people have had it with Steele. They sound like us with Cox. They seem to want Miller or a return of the Mack. I certainly can understand their disdain for him.

His February and March swoons are Jim Baron like

Posted: **Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:13 am**

giovanni wrote: ↑2 years ago
Rhody72 wrote: ↑2 years ago Colleges have no patience with basketball coaches that don't produce.
If you haven't noticed , it's not the 80s anymore where guys were getting paid $50 thousand. They make considerably more and are paid to produce. This is a big business for many schools, and the coaches are paid that way. High risk, high reward.

Jim Baron kept his job for 11 years and he was the highest paid RI State employee this century. The pressure to produce has increased even at mid-major colleges. When signing a new coach, expect to fire them or have them move on when successful. You must write a contract with an easy buy-out and generous incentives for success, You must protect the future of your program when there is a coaching change. You can't put your institution in a situation where you can't afford to fire a coach.

Posted: **Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:06 am**

Rhody72 wrote: ↑2 years ago
giovanni wrote: ↑2 years ago
Rhody72 wrote: ↑2 years ago Colleges have no patience with basketball coaches that don't produce.
If you haven't noticed , it's not the 80s anymore where guys were getting paid $50 thousand. They make considerably more and are paid to produce. This is a big business for many schools, and the coaches are paid that way. High risk, high reward.
Jim Baron kept his job for 11 years and he was the highest paid RI State employee this century. The pressure to produce has increased even at mid-major colleges. When signing a new coach, expect to fire them or have them move on when successful. You must write a contract with an easy buy-out and generous incentives for success, You must protect the future of your program when there is a coaching change. You can't put your institution in a situation where you can't afford to fire a coach.

Unless you count Dan Hurley, David Cox, or David Dooley - yes he was the highest paid state employee this century.

Posted: **Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:48 am**

Bruce Weber out at K-State.

Posted: **Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:09 pm**

adam914 wrote: ↑2 years ago Bruce Weber out at K-State.

He just ripped the NCAA a new one over the FBI scandal good for him

Posted: **Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:17 pm**

With many teams ending their seasons in and around now, this thread is about to get very busy.

Posted: **Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:26 pm**

adam914 wrote: ↑2 years ago Bruce Weber out at K-State.

As I said before, K-State would be a good landing spot for Turg.
He is from Kansas and coached nearby at Wichita State.
Also was successful in the B12 at Texas A&M.

Gregg Marshall would be another possibility but less likely considering how he left Wichita State.

Posted: **Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:13 pm**

Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago
Unless you count Dan Hurley, David Cox, or David Dooley - yes he was the highest paid state employee this century.

I said "was"as in "was at the time".

Posted: **Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:59 pm**

Rhody72 wrote: ↑2 years ago
Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago
Unless you count Dan Hurley, David Cox, or David Dooley - yes he was the highest paid state employee this century.
I said "was"as in "was at the time".

You may have possibly intended to mean the highest paid at the time but that is not what you wrote. The only interpretation of your written words is that Jim Baron was the highest paid state employee of the 2000's and that is not true.

Rhody72 wrote: ↑2 years ago Jim Baron kept his job for 11 years and he was the highest paid RI State employee this century.

Posted: **Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:52 pm**

No change coming at St. Joe's.

Posted: **Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:07 pm**

adam914 wrote: ↑2 years ago No change coming at St. Joe's.

I don't know anything about her but I think I hate her.

I hated Martelli but he was a legend. She came in and just said "time to change" and hired whoever. Of course she doesn't want to admit she was wrong and fired a program legend who should have a gym named after him a la Frank Keaney here. So she will ride the Lange train into the dirt.

Phil deserved to go out on his own terms at St Joes.

Posted: **Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:10 pm**

Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago
adam914 wrote: ↑2 years ago No change coming at St. Joe's.

I don't know anything about her but I think I hate her.

I hated Martelli but he was a legend. She came in and just said "time to change" and hired whoever. Of course she doesn't want to admit she was wrong and fired a program legend who should have a gym named after him a la Frank Keaney here. So she will ride the Lange train into the dirt.

Phil deserved to go out on his own terms at St Joes.

I’m ok with Billy getting another year but he may need to start showing some improvement, if they in the PIG again he may be gone

Posted: **Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:20 pm**

Blue Man wrote: ↑2 years ago
adam914 wrote: ↑2 years ago No change coming at St. Joe's.

I don't know anything about her but I think I hate her.

I hated Martelli but he was a legend. She came in and just said "time to change" and hired whoever. Of course she doesn't want to admit she was wrong and fired a program legend who should have a gym named after him a la Frank Keaney here. So she will ride the Lange train into the dirt.

Phil deserved to go out on his own terms at St Joes.

Martelli was 64 and had gone 20-34 in the A10 in the previous 3 seasons. Maybe he should have been able to go out on his own terms or at least given another season or two to turn things around, but if I'm an AD I'm not sure how comfortable I'd feel with that coaching situation. If he had already lost it and refused to leave, what do you do?

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