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Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

In article today regarding Richardson’s plea:

The NCAA has confirmed a Yahoo Sports report that it has begun investigating allegations that have arisen from the federal case.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

Throw the book at Book.

Had to say that lol.

RhodyKyle · Unread post by **RhodyKyle** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago The NCAA was told to hold off until the FBI case and trials are over. It will be interesting to see if the NCAA does anything after the April trials. I don’t have a good feeling that they will.

Nope, NCAA can go in now. They are more corrupt than the schools.

https://sports.yahoo.com/feds-give-ncaa ... 02043.html

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago In article today regarding Richardson’s plea:

The NCAA has confirmed a Yahoo Sports report that it has begun investigating allegations that have arisen from the federal case.

RhodyKyle, you must have skipped a few posts. Look up on the page

RhodyKyle · Unread post by **RhodyKyle** » 5 years ago

I bet it's my attention to detail that impresses you the most.

woodennickel1 · Unread post by **woodennickel1** » 5 years ago

RF1 wrote: ↑5 years ago
hrstrat57 wrote: ↑5 years ago Pure fun fantasy time.

Let’s say Rhody had hired Pitino. Let’s fantasize that we are 11-1 top 20 and Alford got fired. Pitino reputation is somewhat restored courtesy of us. We would already be in total chaos as Rick maneuvered to get the UCLA gig and leave us twisting.....

That’s the reason we can’t dance with the devil a 2nd time. Harrick helped us get our nice new building but we couldn’t do that type of rodeo again.

Hiring Pitino would have been a nightmare and the end of my following the program. Pitino is a lying POS cheater. Harrick, at the time URI hired him, was not comparable. Harrick only came close to Rick after all the UGA dirt (after URI) came to light.

I have no doubt Pitino has cheated that being said to try and say Harrick was not as bad is ridiculous.He put 3 out of the 4 schools he coached at on probation and we all know had anyone taken the time to check on him at Pepperdine he would have 100 percent record.

rambone 78 · Unread post by **rambone 78** » 5 years ago

The severity of the violations can't be compared.

Harrick was no angel, but Pitino? Far worse.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 5 years ago

woodennickel1 wrote: ↑5 years ago
RF1 wrote: ↑5 years ago
hrstrat57 wrote: ↑5 years ago Pure fun fantasy time.

Let’s say Rhody had hired Pitino. Let’s fantasize that we are 11-1 top 20 and Alford got fired. Pitino reputation is somewhat restored courtesy of us. We would already be in total chaos as Rick maneuvered to get the UCLA gig and leave us twisting.....

That’s the reason we can’t dance with the devil a 2nd time. Harrick helped us get our nice new building but we couldn’t do that type of rodeo again.

Hiring Pitino would have been a nightmare and the end of my following the program. Pitino is a lying POS cheater. Harrick, at the time URI hired him, was not comparable. Harrick only came close to Rick after all the UGA dirt (after URI) came to light.
I have no doubt Pitino has cheated that being said to try and say Harrick was not as bad is ridiculous.He put 3 out of the 4 schools he coached at on probation and we all know had anyone taken the time to check on him at Pepperdine he would have 100 percent record.

Pitino in 2018 was far worse than Harrick in 1997 (the times when URI was hiring a new head coach). Anyone that says otherwise is not grounded in reality and fact. Comparisons about the two NOW side by side in 2018 however may have some merit given the totality of their careers and infractions.

Unread post by **TruePoint** » 5 years ago

The absolute moral reprehensibility of Pitino is on another planet from Harrick. Harrick “played the game” of big time college hoops, like many coaches do but is still generally sleazy compared to normal people in normal professions - there is no arguing that. Rick Pitino did all that PLUS he is a truly gross human being. There is more to it than listing out NCAA infractions side-by-side. I wouldn’t allow Rick Pitino near my children and would be mortified to have my university associated with him. Harrick was conventionally dirty in the way many college coaches are, but more or less a normal, nice, decent guy; Rick Pitino is an actually dirty person and a piece of garbage.

CHICO 78 · Unread post by **CHICO 78** » 5 years ago

The absolute moral reprehensibility of Pitino is on another planet from Harrick. Harrick “played the game” of big time college hoops, like many coaches do but is still generally sleazy compared to normal people in normal professions - there is no arguing that. Rick Pitino did all that PLUS he is a truly gross human being. There is more to it than listing out NCAA infractions side-by-side. I wouldn’t allow Rick Pitino near my children and would be mortified to have my university associated with him. Harrick was conventionally dirty in the way many college coaches are, but more or less a normal, nice, decent guy; Rick Pitino is an actually dirty person and a piece of garbage.

I agree Harrick was sleazy and amoral like a used car salesman. A fast talking con-man who could flat out charm the shine off an apple and sell ice cubes to eskimo's. He could flat out coach , but he felt the rules didn't apply to him. The Lamar Odom recruiting kind of iced that for me.
Lamar was on the cover of SI but not only for being the #1-2 recruit. But for being the poster child of everything that was wrong with
college basketball recruiting at the time. He was signed with Las Vegas and Tark the Shark was very similar to Harrick.
Maybe even a little worse. It came out that he had arranged for someone to take Lamar's SAT's for him because Lamar had failed
repeatedly to pass them. Lamar was a good kid who was exploited by big the time college sports machine. And Harrick was one
of the drivers of that bus.

But Pitino is sleazy like a pedophile, or a human trafficker. Absolute slime. Just a whole other level than Harrick.
But there are people on this board who were standing in line to sign him up when Dan bolted.
Trade your soul for a shot at the big time. As long as you win. Absolutely disgusting.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

I wonder if any other coaches thought of this “new” drill

Taylor Swift · Unread post by **Taylor Swift** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago I wonder if any other coaches thought of this “new” drill

Maybe this is Ian's first time to a basketball practice?

For some reason, I thought of my high school basketball coach who had us run what felt like a million laps around the gym with the heat blasting for "conditioning" and if you stopped to get water (me) you had to run extra laps. Needless to say, she was awful in general. I was in 10th grade and that was it for me. I would have preferred the 100 free throws.

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago I wonder if any other coaches thought of this “new” drill

That seems like a tremendous waste of practice time, given whole-team practice time limits.

bigappleram · Unread post by **bigappleram** » 5 years ago

Would have to agree. This must be a 1 time thing to account for their poor FT shooting to date, but if mechanics are flawed you can repeat the same action 1,000,000 times and it isn't going to fix anything. And you never shoot more than 2 free throws in a row, so shooting 100 is not game condition and won't translate.

hrstrat57 · Unread post by **hrstrat57** » 5 years ago

I always made sure my teams shot free throws in simulated game conditions (players on the foul line for example) at the end of practice often after running a few laps in addition to routine practice foul shooting. Poor performance was often punished with more running. Can’t shoot em well on tired practice legs you’ll shoot bricks at end of game crunch time. Also constantly monitored all my players for consistent routine after making them explain and practice their routine.

It’s really quite simple nothing I came up with I just stole it all from other coaches....

I never considered the 100 at a time practice trick, be curious to see if it helps Cooley’s team....my thought would be that technique breaks down after more that 25 strokes.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago I wonder if any other coaches thought of this “new” drill

Did Cooley go the full simulation route and have people in Providence booing them when they did this?

SmartyBarrett · Unread post by **SmartyBarrett** » 5 years ago

hrstrat kind of touched on the point I was going to make... doesn't it make more sense to have players shoot 'em at the *end* of practice rather than the beginning? This almost feels like a dig at fans that have been bitching about FT shooting.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

Yes, they should be taken at the end of practice when legs are tired.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

The fact that the PC media thought this was newsworthy is laughable. Every college team practices FTs every day in some fashion.

In the last few days Cooley has been reverved as a great coach because he made a big deal about playing his “five toughest guys” in the 2nd half and he had his team practice FTs to start practice. This guy is a basketball genius

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

UCLA Board of Regents reject Pitno option.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamzagori ... 89cd5d7b53

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago UCLA Board of Regents reject Pitno option.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamzagori ... 89cd5d7b53

Not a surprise. It is what I would expect any respectable school to do.

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 5 years ago

Ed Cooley has gone to the tournament 5 straight years. His practice habits seem to be working.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

UCLA wins 3rd straight since Alford fired beating Oregon on the road in OT being down an amazing 9 points with a minute to go.
Could Murry Bartow, interim HC, be the man?
His father, Gene, was HC for the Bruins.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.espn.com ... atform=amp

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 5 years ago

Rhody15 wrote: ↑5 years ago Ed Cooley has gone to the tournament 5 straight years. His practice habits seem to be working.

And maybe one day he'll actually win a game.

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 5 years ago

adam914 wrote: ↑5 years ago
Rhody15 wrote: ↑5 years ago Ed Cooley has gone to the tournament 5 straight years. His practice habits seem to be working.
And maybe one day he'll actually win a game.

He has.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 5 years ago

Rhody15 wrote: ↑5 years ago
adam914 wrote: ↑5 years ago
Rhody15 wrote: ↑5 years ago Ed Cooley has gone to the tournament 5 straight years. His practice habits seem to be working.
And maybe one day he'll actually win a game.
He has.

All his NCAA appearances have been as coach of the Friars. He is 1-5 with his lone win over USC in 2016.

2014 #11 seed lost to #6 North Carolina 79-77
2015 #6 seed lost to #11 Dayton 66-53
2016 #9 seed beat #8 USC 70-69
2016 #9 seed lost to #1 North Carolina 85-66
2017 #11 seed lost to #11 USC 75-71 (First Four Play-in)
2018 #10 seed lost to #7 Texas A&M 73-69

URI actually has more NCAA Tournament wins this century than does PC (2 to 1) despite the Friars having seven appearances to Rhody's two. Since PC's joining the original Big East 40 years ago, the two schools have an equal number of NCAA Tournament wins (8) even though the Friars have participated more frequently (12-7). Since 1979, URI is 8-7 and PC 8-12 in the tournament.

Rhody15 · Unread post by **Rhody15** » 5 years ago

RF1 wrote: ↑5 years ago
Rhody15 wrote: ↑5 years ago
adam914 wrote: ↑5 years ago

And maybe one day he'll actually win a game.
He has.
He is 1-5 with his lone win over USC in 2016.

2014 #11 seed lost to #6 North Carolina 79-77
2015 #6 seed lost to #11 Dayton 66-53
2016 #9 seed beat #8 USC 70-69
2016 #9 seed lost to #1 North Carolina 85-66
2017 #11 seed lost to #11 USC 75-71 (First Four Play-in)
2018 #10 seed lost to #7 Texas A&M 73-69

URI actually has more NCAA Tournament wins this century than does PC (2 to 1) despite the Friars having seven appearances to Rhody's two.

Correct, obviously can't disput that.

Adam914 said maybe one day he'll win a tournament game, when in face he actually has.

adam914 · Unread post by **adam914** » 5 years ago

Rhody15 wrote: ↑5 years ago
RF1 wrote: ↑5 years ago
Rhody15 wrote: ↑5 years ago

He has.
He is 1-5 with his lone win over USC in 2016.

2014 #11 seed lost to #6 North Carolina 79-77
2015 #6 seed lost to #11 Dayton 66-53
2016 #9 seed beat #8 USC 70-69
2016 #9 seed lost to #1 North Carolina 85-66
2017 #11 seed lost to #11 USC 75-71 (First Four Play-in)
2018 #10 seed lost to #7 Texas A&M 73-69

URI actually has more NCAA Tournament wins this century than does PC (2 to 1) despite the Friars having seven appearances to Rhody's two.
Correct, obviously can't disput that.

Adam914 said maybe one day he'll win a tournament game, when in face he actually has.

Yeah yeah, I know...just can't pass up a chance to take a shot at PC.

Rhode_Island_Red · Unread post by **Rhode_Island_Red** » 5 years ago

adam914 wrote: ↑5 years ago
Rhody15 wrote: ↑5 years ago
RF1 wrote: ↑5 years ago

He is 1-5 with his lone win over USC in 2016.

2014 #11 seed lost to #6 North Carolina 79-77
2015 #6 seed lost to #11 Dayton 66-53
2016 #9 seed beat #8 USC 70-69
2016 #9 seed lost to #1 North Carolina 85-66
2017 #11 seed lost to #11 USC 75-71 (First Four Play-in)
2018 #10 seed lost to #7 Texas A&M 73-69

URI actually has more NCAA Tournament wins this century than does PC (2 to 1) despite the Friars having seven appearances to Rhody's two.
Correct, obviously can't disput that.

Adam914 said maybe one day he'll win a tournament game, when in face he actually has.
Yeah yeah, I know...just can't pass up a chance to take a shot at PC.

This x 1,000

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

Friar fans I know see Cooley as a great recruiter but not a good game coach.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago Friar fans I know see Cooley as a great recruiter but not a good game coach.

Sounds like Rick Barnes 2.0...or as I called him at the time, the best 38 minute coach.

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 5 years ago

steviep123 wrote: ↑5 years ago
Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago Friar fans I know see Cooley as a great recruiter but not a good game coach.
Sounds like Rick Barnes 2.0...or as I called him at the time, the best 38 minute coach.

For some reason, Cooley teams have always had the presence of the underdog, something that makes sense early on in his tenure but not so much in recent years. He has caught some tough breaks with eligibility, injuries, transfers, and suspensions, but at this point given the resources around him, I think it's ok to expect more. I've said before that I'm ok punting on this season because of the youth (5 out of the 9 key players in the rotation are freshmen/sophomores), and next year he'll hopefully only lose Jackson, and possibly return Holt as a 6th year (although unlikely) plus Greg Gantt as a Top 60 recruit. So if you have to take some lumps this year with the freshmen and sophomores to have them take that jump next season, so be it. But next season, neither depth nor experience should be an excuse. The next four years will tell the story, IMHO.

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

RJ, any idea what happened to Holt? He played the first 6 games and hasn’t played since. It would seem like he is done for the year.

Billyboy78 · Unread post by **Billyboy78** » 5 years ago

Btw, Cooley was just named Rhode Island Man of the Year by GoLocalProv. I think that's hilarious.

RF1 · Unread post by **RF1** » 5 years ago

Billyboy78 wrote: ↑5 years ago Btw, Cooley was just named Rhode Island Man of the Year by GoLocalProv. I think that's hilarious.

GoLocalProv is always hilarious. Nothing but click-bait joke. Knowing how it operates, some panel that was completely anonymous probably picked him as nothing it does ever seems to be attributed to named persons.

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 5 years ago

Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago RJ, any idea what happened to Holt? He played the first 6 games and hasn’t played since. It would seem like he is done for the year.

It wouldn't surprise me if they are playing for the 6th year. Early in the season, there was an article that came out talking about how Holt just felt fatigued and incapable of competing for more than a few minutes at a time. The quotes included "It’s a little of both, not having enough strength or stamina,” Holt said. “It’s kind of discouraging that my rehab has taken so long. The body heals from the inside out," as well as “I don’t know if I could play 15-20 minutes right now,” Holt said. “It’s hard to feel comfortable. It’s not too bad, even practicing. But it’s hard to get everything to feel right – my upper body, my lower body right now.” Now, he's not even suiting up, at least he didn't versus Villanova. Even early in the season, it was very clear in his limited minutes that he was not the same player.

NYGFan_Section208 · Unread post by **NYGFan_Section208** » 5 years ago

rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑5 years ago
steviep123 wrote: ↑5 years ago
Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago Friar fans I know see Cooley as a great recruiter but not a good game coach.
Sounds like Rick Barnes 2.0...or as I called him at the time, the best 38 minute coach.
For some reason, Cooley teams have always had the presence of the underdog, something that makes sense early on in his tenure but not so much in recent years. He has caught some tough breaks with eligibility, injuries, transfers, and suspensions, but at this point given the resources around him, I think it's ok to expect more. I've said before that I'm ok punting on this season because of the youth (5 out of the 9 key players in the rotation are freshmen/sophomores), and next year he'll hopefully only lose Jackson, and possibly return Holt as a 6th year (although unlikely) plus Greg Gantt as a Top 60 recruit. So if you have to take some lumps this year with the freshmen and sophomores to have them take that jump next season, so be it. But next season, neither depth nor experience should be an excuse. The next four years will tell the story, IMHO.

Punting??!! You can't "punt" as a fan. I would think it's just like playing video game football (I never have)...but, I would never punt.
I probably wouldn't win that much, but...not really "losing" anything by going for it every time either.
You can call it realistic, but, it's just a game and, to me, games are for getting away from the realistic

Rhody Rhody Rhody - to the NC-A-A-T!

Ramulous · Unread post by **Ramulous** » 5 years ago

My information is that Holt's illness was quite serious.....more so than has been indicated for privacy reasons.....i wish the young man well in the most important game...Life....

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 5 years ago

There is a lot of parity in the Big East this year no really bad teams they will beat up on each other

Rhody83 · Unread post by **Rhody83** » 5 years ago

Ramulous wrote: ↑5 years ago My information is that Holt's illness was quite serious.....more so than has been indicated for privacy reasons.....i wish the young man well in the most important game...Life....

I know it was real serious. A friend of mine is very close to the PC program. Holt is a nice kid. I wish him the best. Found out tonight that PC has requested a medical redshirt for a 6th year. Holt isn’t dressing for games now.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 5 years ago

rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑5 years ago
steviep123 wrote: ↑5 years ago
Rhody83 wrote: ↑5 years ago Friar fans I know see Cooley as a great recruiter but not a good game coach.
Sounds like Rick Barnes 2.0...or as I called him at the time, the best 38 minute coach.
For some reason, Cooley teams have always had the presence of the underdog, something that makes sense early on in his tenure but not so much in recent years. He has caught some tough breaks with eligibility, injuries, transfers, and suspensions, but at this point given the resources around him, I think it's ok to expect more. I've said before that I'm ok punting on this season because of the youth (5 out of the 9 key players in the rotation are freshmen/sophomores), and next year he'll hopefully only lose Jackson, and possibly return Holt as a 6th year (although unlikely) plus Greg Gantt as a Top 60 recruit. So if you have to take some lumps this year with the freshmen and sophomores to have them take that jump next season, so be it. But next season, neither depth nor experience should be an excuse. The next four years will tell the story, IMHO.

Good assessment RJ. That’s how I feel about Rhody this year. Only senior is Preston (assuming Thompson returns) so experience and growth on the freshmen and Fatts will be key.

steviep123 · Unread post by **steviep123** » 5 years ago

Too bad about Holt. Hate to see a serious illness derail someone. I wish him well.

rjsuperfly66 · Unread post by **rjsuperfly66** » 5 years ago

NYGFan_Section208 wrote: ↑5 years ago
rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑5 years ago
steviep123 wrote: ↑5 years ago

Sounds like Rick Barnes 2.0...or as I called him at the time, the best 38 minute coach.
I've said before that I'm ok punting on this season because of the youth (5 out of the 9 key players in the rotation are freshmen/sophomores), and next year he'll hopefully only lose Jackson, and possibly return Holt as a 6th year (although unlikely) plus Greg Gantt as a Top 60 recruit.
Punting??!! You can't "punt" as a fan. I would think it's just like playing video game football (I never have)...but, I would never punt.

It depends on your definition of "punt."
I'm ok with a young team taking a step back because of lack of experience.
I'm not ok with a young team taking a step back because of coaching gafs.
So as a fan, if PC doesn't make the tournament this year, I'm not going to be disappointed.
But, you hope to see the young players growing so next year, the team is back competing for a bid.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

Rick Barnes accomplishment this year with no Top 100 Ranked Players...

https://247sports.com/college/tennessee ... 128707340/

KevanBoyles · Unread post by **KevanBoyles** » 5 years ago

ramster wrote: ↑5 years ago Rick Barnes accomplishment this year with no Top 100 Ranked Players...

https://247sports.com/college/tennessee ... 128707340/

Well there is hope for the future then. We are in the same boat just three years behind.

KevanBoyles · Unread post by **KevanBoyles** » 5 years ago

KevanBoyles wrote: ↑5 years ago
ramster wrote: ↑5 years ago Rick Barnes accomplishment this year with no Top 100 Ranked Players...

https://247sports.com/college/tennessee ... 128707340/
Well there is hope for the future then. We are in the same boat just three years behind.

Although Barnes, isn’t exactly a first-year Coach.

ramster · Unread post by **ramster** » 5 years ago

Here is an excellent article about Rick Barnes and how he has turned around the program at Tennessee after Mack Brown fired him at Texas
Tennessee plays South Carolina tonight at home 15.5 point favorites. The biggest game of the season is Saturday as Tennessee (22-1) plays AT #5 Ranked Kentucky (20-4) at 8pm on ESPN

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... l-uprising

ace · Unread post by **ace** » 5 years ago

three A10 coaches and an old friend and Jim Christian...

Reverse Hot Seat: Why These Embattled Coaches Should Stay
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... aches-stay

woodennickel1 · Unread post by **woodennickel1** » 5 years ago

ace wrote: ↑5 years ago three A10 coaches and an old friend and Jim Christian...

Reverse Hot Seat: Why These Embattled Coaches Should Stay
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... aches-stay

I think Christian has done a really good job at BC he inherited a mess. Probably would have been a bubble team if Robinson had stayed .

reef · Unread post by **reef** » 5 years ago

The AD at Texas Steve Patterson fired both Mack Brown and Rick Barnes just to be clear