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rhodysurf wrote: ↑1 year ago Munford and fatts on the same roster is a volume scoring dream

Assuming Fatts will let someone else have the ball once in a while.

Rhode_Island_Red wrote: ↑1 year ago

rhodysurf wrote: ↑1 year ago Munford and fatts on the same roster is a volume scoring dream

Assuming Fatts will let someone else have the ball once in a while.

As a professional Fatts averaged 5.5 assists per game in Turkey, 7.3 assists per game in Montenegro and is 6th all time in assists in Rhode Island basketball history with 411.

Hass, Terrell, & Dowtin would totally complete the team. Maybe one more big guy after that if any?
They would be unstoppable! Wonder who the coach would be...maybe Preston Murphy could do it? I have no idea. Just throwing stuff out there.

I hope Hassan plays for Rhody in the tournament. Dowtin isn’t playing in this he has legit NBA aspirations. Crazy that Dowtin has been the longest lasting Rhody alum in the NBA over Terrell and others.

Every day that Dowtin remains on the fringes of the NBA as a PG is a further indictment of Cox.

STC wrote: ↑1 year ago I hope Hassan plays for Rhody in the tournament. Dowtin isn’t playing in this he has legit NBA aspirations. Crazy that Dowtin has been the longest lasting Rhody alum in the NBA over Terrell and others.

Every day that Dowtin remains on the fringes of the NBA as a PG is a further indictment of Cox.

So, would you have played Fatts at the off-guard or as Jeff's backup? How would that have helped the team? Should a coach do what is best for the team, or what is best for the star player? (BTW, I would have parted ways with Fatts because I have no use for selfish players.)

adam914 wrote: ↑1 year ago

Rhode_Island_Red wrote: ↑1 year ago

rhodysurf wrote: ↑1 year ago Munford and fatts on the same roster is a volume scoring dream

Assuming Fatts will let someone else have the ball once in a while.

As a professional Fatts averaged 5.5 assists per game in Turkey, 7.3 assists per game in Montenegro and is 6th all time in assists in Rhode Island basketball history with 411.

So because he had 411 assists, you're saying he was known for his passing? And was a good passer?

You know Tim Wakefield is among the top 100 strikeout pitchers of all-time. I don't consider him an all-time great strikeout pitcher. Maybe that's just me.

PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑1 year ago

adam914 wrote: ↑1 year ago

Rhode_Island_Red wrote: ↑1 year ago

Assuming Fatts will let someone else have the ball once in a while.

As a professional Fatts averaged 5.5 assists per game in Turkey, 7.3 assists per game in Montenegro and is 6th all time in assists in Rhode Island basketball history with 411.

So because he had 411 assists, you're saying he was known for his passing? And was a good passer?

You know Tim Wakefield is among the top 100 strikeout pitchers of all-time. I don't consider him an all-time great strikeout pitcher. Maybe that's just me.

Let's try not to turn this thread into a Fatts bashing lol we've had more than enough of those threads.

I think Fatts would thrive in an environment that is going to be far more street ball than system/halfcourt basketball.

Rhody72 wrote: ↑1 year ago

STC wrote: ↑1 year ago I hope Hassan plays for Rhody in the tournament. Dowtin isn’t playing in this he has legit NBA aspirations. Crazy that Dowtin has been the longest lasting Rhody alum in the NBA over Terrell and others.

Every day that Dowtin remains on the fringes of the NBA as a PG is a further indictment of Cox.

So, would you have played Fatts at the off-guard or as Jeff's backup? How would that have helped the team? Should a coach do what is best for the team, or what is best for the star player? (BTW, I would have parted ways with Fatts because I have no use for selfish players.)

I would have had Fatts be Dowtin's backup at least Fatts' 2nd season - Fatts certainly could have learned a lot from Jeff D.

PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑1 year ago

adam914 wrote: ↑1 year ago

Rhode_Island_Red wrote: ↑1 year ago

Assuming Fatts will let someone else have the ball once in a while.

As a professional Fatts averaged 5.5 assists per game in Turkey, 7.3 assists per game in Montenegro and is 6th all time in assists in Rhode Island basketball history with 411.

So because he had 411 assists, you're saying he was known for his passing? And was a good passer?

You know Tim Wakefield is among the top 100 strikeout pitchers of all-time. I don't consider him an all-time great strikeout pitcher. Maybe that's just me.

No, if I was saying that then I would have said that. What I am saying is that 411 times Fatts let someone else have the ball and then they scored from it. In other words, he let someone else have the ball once in a while.

So, if anyone is interested in supporting this team, I have a call with the coordinators scheduled next week. As far as individual sponsorships, the lowest tier is $1500. which comes with various perks. I will ask if they have a means to accept smaller donations from individuals.

We will be playing in Syracuse, July 24-25th. Tickets are affordable ($24) and many are available.

PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑1 year ago

adam914 wrote: ↑1 year ago

Rhode_Island_Red wrote: ↑1 year ago

Assuming Fatts will let someone else have the ball once in a while.

As a professional Fatts averaged 5.5 assists per game in Turkey, 7.3 assists per game in Montenegro and is 6th all time in assists in Rhode Island basketball history with 411.

So because he had 411 assists, you're saying he was known for his passing? And was a good passer?

You know Tim Wakefield is among the top 100 strikeout pitchers of all-time. I don't consider him an all-time great strikeout pitcher. Maybe that's just me.

Known for his passing? No he was known for his scoring and athleticism at a diminutive size.
Good passer? Yes, by any way you could measure it.

Fatts coached by Dan Hurley would have been a completely different player than Fatts coached by Dave Cox. Did you watch any of his games at Maryland? He was not the ball dominant player he was at URI.

LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑1 year ago So, if anyone is interested in supporting this team, I have a call with the coordinators scheduled next week. As far as individual sponsorships, the lowest tier is $1500. which comes with various perks. I will ask if they have a means to accept smaller donations from individuals.

We will be playing in Syracuse, July 24-25th. Tickets are affordable ($24) and many are available.

Definitely keep us posted please! I'd love to be able to make an individual donation if thats an option.

bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago ...

Fatts coached by Dan Hurley would have been a completely different player than Fatts coached by Dave Cox. Did you watch any of his games at Maryland? He was not the ball dominant player he was at URI.

I suspect DH would have treated Fatts the same way Archie treated Bray Freeman.

Rhody72 wrote: ↑1 year ago

bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago ...

Fatts coached by Dan Hurley would have been a completely different player than Fatts coached by Dave Cox. Did you watch any of his games at Maryland? He was not the ball dominant player he was at URI.

I suspect DH would have treated Fatts the same way Archie treated Bray Freeman.

Fatts played defense, tenaciously. Fatts dove on the floor, scrapped and by all accounts was a good teammate.
Fatts didn't have a family member sit behind the bench and heckle the coach.
Fatts didn't have a family member poke shots at the coach on Twitter.
Fatts won us 2 PC games and was a huge factor in an NCAA win.

Him and Bray are not the same.

Archie didn't coach Bray the way he did bc he took some ill-advised shots or made a couple bad decisions.
It was all about effort and attitude deficiencies. And no one has/would ever say that about Fatts.

Comparing Fatts, whose name is all over the URI record books, and Bray, who played about 20 games here and got kicked off the team, is one of the dumbest things on here yet.

The slander and revisionist history on Fatts around here is such BS.

Rhody72 wrote: ↑1 year ago

bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago ...

Fatts coached by Dan Hurley would have been a completely different player than Fatts coached by Dave Cox. Did you watch any of his games at Maryland? He was not the ball dominant player he was at URI.

I suspect DH would have treated Fatts the same way Archie treated Bray Freeman.

Come on 72 you should be better than that

bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago

Rhody72 wrote: ↑1 year ago

bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago ...

Fatts coached by Dan Hurley would have been a completely different player than Fatts coached by Dave Cox. Did you watch any of his games at Maryland? He was not the ball dominant player he was at URI.

I suspect DH would have treated Fatts the same way Archie treated Bray Freeman.

Fatts played defense, tenaciously. Fatts dove on the floor, scrapped and by all accounts was a good teammate.
Fatts didn't have a family member sit behind the bench and heckle the coach.
Fatts didn't have a family member poke shots at the coach on Twitter.
Fatts won us 2 PC games and was a huge factor in an NCAA win.

Him and Bray are not the same.

Archie didn't coach Bray the way he did bc he took some ill-advised shots or made a couple bad decisions.
It was all about effort and attitude deficiencies. And no one has/would ever say that about Fatts.

Fatts played intermittent defense...he dove sometimes, rested sometimes and coasted other times. He gambled for steals. Wish he was a pitbull on the ball defender every time down but he wasn't.
I can't vouch for him being a good teammate. I know he pouted and wasn't a great leader. I'm guessing he wasn't that easy to coach.
It's great that Fatts helped URI beat PC twice...helped beat OU. Kudos to him and all the players for those wins. Great accomplishments and highlights.

I watched a bunch of his games at UMD and in fact watched him play in person at UMD. He couldn't lead and couldn't win. Had no idea how to make the players around him better.

It doesn't make him a bad person. Nor does it make me a bad person for having a critical eye and less than impressed opinion of his game. Can we leave it at that?

PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑1 year ago

bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago

Rhody72 wrote: ↑1 year ago
I suspect DH would have treated Fatts the same way Archie treated Bray Freeman.

Fatts played defense, tenaciously. Fatts dove on the floor, scrapped and by all accounts was a good teammate.
Fatts didn't have a family member sit behind the bench and heckle the coach.
Fatts didn't have a family member poke shots at the coach on Twitter.
Fatts won us 2 PC games and was a huge factor in an NCAA win.

Him and Bray are not the same.

Archie didn't coach Bray the way he did bc he took some ill-advised shots or made a couple bad decisions.
It was all about effort and attitude deficiencies. And no one has/would ever say that about Fatts.

Fatts played intermittent defense...he dove sometimes, rested sometimes and coasted other times. He gambled for steals. Wish he was a pitbull on the ball defender every time down but he wasn't.
I can't vouch for him being a good teammate. I know he pouted and wasn't a great leader. I'm guessing he wasn't that easy to coach.
It's great that Fatts helped URI beat PC twice...helped beat OU. Kudos to him and all the players for those wins. Great accomplishments and highlights.

I watched a bunch of his games at UMD and in fact watched him play in person at UMD. He couldn't lead and couldn't win. Had no idea how to make the players around him better.

It doesn't make him a bad person. Nor does it make me a bad person for having a critical eye and less than impressed opinion of his game. Can we leave it at that?

Of course and that opinion is valid. He was a polarizing player, not the first or the last. But any comparison to Bray is just lame.

bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago

PlayMikeMotenMore wrote: ↑1 year ago

bigappleram wrote: ↑1 year ago

Fatts played defense, tenaciously. Fatts dove on the floor, scrapped and by all accounts was a good teammate.
Fatts didn't have a family member sit behind the bench and heckle the coach.
Fatts didn't have a family member poke shots at the coach on Twitter.
Fatts won us 2 PC games and was a huge factor in an NCAA win.

Him and Bray are not the same.

Archie didn't coach Bray the way he did bc he took some ill-advised shots or made a couple bad decisions.
It was all about effort and attitude deficiencies. And no one has/would ever say that about Fatts.

Fatts played intermittent defense...he dove sometimes, rested sometimes and coasted other times. He gambled for steals. Wish he was a pitbull on the ball defender every time down but he wasn't.
I can't vouch for him being a good teammate. I know he pouted and wasn't a great leader. I'm guessing he wasn't that easy to coach.
It's great that Fatts helped URI beat PC twice...helped beat OU. Kudos to him and all the players for those wins. Great accomplishments and highlights.

I watched a bunch of his games at UMD and in fact watched him play in person at UMD. He couldn't lead and couldn't win. Had no idea how to make the players around him better.

It doesn't make him a bad person. Nor does it make me a bad person for having a critical eye and less than impressed opinion of his game. Can we leave it at that?

Of course and that opinion is valid. He was a polarizing player, not the first or the last. But any comparison to Bray is just lame.

That we can agree on.

This team is getting better and better. It is going to be a trip down memory lane watching these guys play this summer.

Love them adding JT to the mix. Team is loaded and almost forcing me to go watch them live lol

Yes!! This is going to be so great!

sevegny7 wrote: ↑1 year ago





This team is getting better and better. It is going to be a trip down memory lane watching these guys play this summer.

Love them adding JT to the mix. Team is loaded and almost forcing me to go watch them live lol

Love this. Now get Hass and we're ready to go.

This is soooooo exciting. Who's going to Syracuse??

Hey guys. I have Four MCGlynn, a team mate and close friend of Jerrell on the podcast at 5. He can give you a little more info on what’s going with the team. Any last minute questions for him.

So many of my faves! No idea of their chances, but the championship is in Philly.

If anyone has any interest in making a donation to the RHODY WAY, they need to raise several thousand dollars more to cover the team expenses.

I spoke with one of the team managers yesterday who provided the following sponsorship levels:
Forever Ram 1,500
Loyal Ram 2,500
Rhody Faithful 5000
RAMILY 5000
Several others 10k and up

Each level comes with various perks, swag, access to team events.

In addition,I was told that ANY donation in ANY amount would be helpful as they will be paying for travel, lodging, team meals, up until quarterfinals.

If you have questions, feel free to PM me.

LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑1 year ago If anyone has any interest in making a donation to the RHODY WAY, they need to raise several thousand dollars more to cover the team expenses.

I spoke with one of the team managers yesterday who provided the following sponsorship levels:
Forever Ram 1,500
Loyal Ram 2,500
Rhody Faithful 5000
RAMILY 5000
Several others 10k and up

Each level comes with various perks, swag, access to team events.

In addition,I was told that ANY donation in ANY amount would be helpful as they will be paying for travel, lodging, team meals, up until quarterfinals.

If you have questions, feel free to PM me.

Here's a hypothetical (and I've never really thought of it so not sure my feelings)... If you have $1500 sitting in your pocket, are you better donating to the school NIL collective, or to a potential one-and-done alumni team (even if it is a ton of fan favorite players)?

For the record, I think the fact that you guys have an alumni team strictly of URI alumni is awesome, considering other alumni teams have alumni and hired guns.

rjsuperfly66 wrote: ↑11 months ago

LoveThoseRams wrote: ↑1 year ago If anyone has any interest in making a donation to the RHODY WAY, they need to raise several thousand dollars more to cover the team expenses.

I spoke with one of the team managers yesterday who provided the following sponsorship levels:
Forever Ram 1,500
Loyal Ram 2,500
Rhody Faithful 5000
RAMILY 5000
Several others 10k and up

Each level comes with various perks, swag, access to team events.

In addition,I was told that ANY donation in ANY amount would be helpful as they will be paying for travel, lodging, team meals, up until quarterfinals.

If you have questions, feel free to PM me.

Here's a hypothetical (and I've never really thought of it so not sure my feelings)... If you have $1500 sitting in your pocket, are you better donating to the school NIL collective, or to a potential one-and-done alumni team (even if it is a ton of fan favorite players)?

For the record, I think the fact that you guys have an alumni team strictly of URI alumni is awesome, considering other alumni teams have alumni and hired guns.

$1500 to NIL and it’s not even a debate.

Is this a joke? Usually teams are asking alumni for donations. Are they tired of being asked by URI Athletics for money and this is their response? I'm shaking my head. Have any of you ever thought of asking URI Advancement for money? Is there a quid pro quo that I'm missing?

I’m this day and age with inflation, how is a fan base expected to keep up with this?

If they can get Hass, that's a stacked team for sure! Not sure what Dowtin's status is, but that would simply be the cherry on top.

Dapper Dan should give them 50k. They contributed to his early success that began his journey to the promised land. Jim Boheim has given a very generous donation and has rallied local businesses and supporters in the Syracuse fan base each year for Boheim's Army, led by Eric Devindorf. I know this for a fact, but I'm also quite sure that other teams have done the same.

Rhodymob05 wrote: ↑11 months ago I’m this day and age with inflation, how is a fan base expected to keep up with this?

Ballot box

Rhodymob05 wrote: ↑11 months ago I’m this day and age with inflation, how is a fan base expected to keep up with this?

Eh. Since the majority of our fanbase doesn’t donate a single penny I’m sure most will find a way to survive.

A better question is, if you are in a position to donate, what is better, the NIL or to the traditional athletic dept? All due respect to the alumni team - and I'm thrilled this team is together and would love to watch and see them succeed, I don't know who can afford to donate to both/all 3. I certainly can't and still feed my kids.

steviep123 wrote: ↑11 months ago A better question is, if you are in a position to donate, what is better, the NIL or to the traditional athletic dept? All due respect to the alumni team - and I'm thrilled this team is together and would love to watch and see them succeed, I don't know who can afford to donate to both/all 3. I certainly can't and still feed my kids.

I just received a donation letter in the mail and will probably donate to the traditional athletic dept.

steviep123 wrote: ↑11 months ago A better question is, if you are in a position to donate, what is better, the NIL or to the traditional athletic dept? All due respect to the alumni team - and I'm thrilled this team is together and would love to watch and see them succeed, I don't know who can afford to donate to both/all 3. I certainly can't and still feed my kids.

Yeah I think it's a fair question.

In my opinion, the priority should be the traditional athletic department.

Infrastructure/staff/support/transportation is always going to be the most important reason that kids will come to a school.

NIL is definitely important, but it's secondary in my opinion. We need to be able to pay players - but kids are going to come for a coach/infrastructure/exposure or opportunity to play at a higher level before they're coming for money.

Let's be honest, the more that comes out about NIL, the more you're realizing that players aren't realistically seeing those 6 figure deals. And those 6 figure deals are going to be less and less the more the the big boosters putting up for them aren't seeing any return for their investment.

NIL and paying players will be one piece of the puzzle going forward, but it's not the be all end all.

And as for The Rhody Way - I love it. It's awesome. But considering the athletics department and collective are already strung out for cash for the players that are here, they can't be expected to try and keep everything Archie is doing afloat and simultaneously support their alums - as great as it is.

I hope they do catch some donations from our fans - but it's still a big money tourney. If they play the way they can, they're getting paid at the end.

I think Stevie said it better than I did. I also will be donating to the athletic department through the letter, but certainly can’t do all three.

Realistically no one should be donating to this team.

I’m not sure if it’s commonplace for TBT, but they should be looking for backers similar to WSOP players.

You buy in with a certain $ amount and are entitled to a certain % if they win

KingstonLane wrote: ↑11 months ago Realistically no one should be donating to this team.

I’m not sure if it’s commonplace for TBT, but they should be looking for backers similar to WSOP players.

You buy in with a certain $ amount and are entitled to a certain % if they win

100%

KingstonLane wrote: ↑11 months ago Realistically no one should be donating to this team.

I’m not sure if it’s commonplace for TBT, but they should be looking for backers similar to WSOP players.

You buy in with a certain $ amount and are entitled to a certain % if they win

Yeah that’s kinda what I was getting at. I’m definitely advocating for people to support, but I’d hope the team would be doing the right thing and offering up a payback if they win.

Sits a pay for play thing with a massive payout - I would hope they’d write in something like a 2:1 payout from the team purse.

$1M split across that team is $80k per player or so. You’ve got enough in there to pay back anyone fronting that money and then some.

Blue Man wrote: ↑11 months ago

KingstonLane wrote: ↑11 months ago Realistically no one should be donating to this team.

I’m not sure if it’s commonplace for TBT, but they should be looking for backers similar to WSOP players.

You buy in with a certain $ amount and are entitled to a certain % if they win

Yeah that’s kinda what I was getting at. I’m definitely advocating for people to support, but I’d hope the team would be doing the right thing and offering up a payback if they win.

Sits a pay for play thing with a massive payout - I would hope they’d write in something like a 2:1 payout from the team purse.

$1M split across that team is $80k per player or so. You’ve got enough in there to pay back anyone fronting that money and then some.

Aren't most, if not all, of these guys playing professionally? Why would I give money to them versus giving directly to URI? Not tax deductible either and would not be recognized by the school in dollars donated.
As someone said earlier, most of these guys contributed to Dan Hurley's 2 back to back NCAA Tournament tournaments that included a win in each tournament. Hurley landed the Big East UCONN Job and then won the National Championship. He is loaded. Why doesn't Hurley contribute and contribute substantially? Let me know when Hurley chips in and I might consider.
64 Teams in the TBT so the odds of winning the million are pretty darn slim. The odds of the team giving back any of the donated money are even slimmer. I doubt that has ever been done by any of the TBT Championship teams.

The reason to donate would be bc it’s a marketing vehicle for the program if they do advance and draw eyeballs. That said I also understand the notion that dollars are better spent going to the program or collective.

bigappleram wrote: ↑11 months ago The reason to donate would be bc it’s a marketing vehicle for the program if they do advance and draw eyeballs. That said I also understand the notion that dollars are better spent going to the program or collective.

To be clear, I have no involvement with The Rhody Way, nor am I advocating that people here throw money at it.

I think because we are donors to the URI Team and to NIL, they reached out directly to see if we would be interested in a sponsorship. I told them I would post the sponsorship levels on KB, because initially there was a lot of excitement about the team.

We too struggle with the decision to donate to URI and/or NIL for a multitude of reasons. I get it that we need NIL money to bring in future players. However, we want to support URI athletics overall.

KingstonLane wrote: ↑11 months ago Realistically no one should be donating to this team.

I’m not sure if it’s commonplace for TBT, but they should be looking for backers similar to WSOP players.

You buy in with a certain $ amount and are entitled to a certain % if they win

Are you a poker player KingstonLane? I’m heading out there on Thursday and will be playing several events over the next month

Jarelle Reischel officially listened on the roster.

The game will be played at 9pm on the Monday July 24th. I am very much considering going to their first game.